Girls in Florida fighting
Posted By: TAG on 2008-04-11
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Did anyone see that sickening video of those teen girls beating up another girl while two boys stood guard outside the house? I think they should be tried as adults including the boys (not sure how old they are anyway). 
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girls fighting
sure did. I can tell you how old they are, old enough to know better, Speaks volumes about the parents is all I can say. They should be tried as adults. All are being held without bond until a hearing sometime today. Hope they get what they deserve and the mother of the girl getting beat up needs to be filing civil suits as well.
girls fighting....and did you see the interview?
the one where Matt Lauer interviews the mother of one of the attackers?? She painted her daughter out to be a saint, how her daughter warned the victim not to go in the house. Matt asked her why her daughter was there for 30 minutes yet didn't call police. She didn't have an answer for that one. And she also said that the victim should get part of the blame because she was trash talking on myspace about the girls.
I say try them as adults too. One of the lookouts was an 18 yo boy.
I worry about my 11 yo son. What kind of world will he be living in??
He's fighting again today.
This time with his younger brother because he doesn't want to play a video game with him anymore. His younger brother is almost 6 and he gets bored easily with video games. Once again, when he got mad, he resorted to violence by kicking his younger brother in his side. It left a red mark. He's sitting on a chair as we speak. I didn't give him a length of time, but I don't think 8 minutes is long enough for the stuff he's doing. I told him what the consequences were when he did something like this, ie serious injury to his brother, possible juvy hall for him, and how it can lead to worse things as he gets older.
He just doesn't get it. I really wanted to fan his @ss, but what would that teach him? Just that violence begets violence. Why does he have to react so intensely? Why can't he just get mad and get over it without hitting someone?
My other 2 children don't react this way. That's 1 of the points the child psychologist and I discussed specifically. That if I were a bad parent, which I definitely think at times, then all 3 of my children would act out, but they don't. Just him. He's generally well-behaved for other adults. He goes to the youth church camps and has no problems whatsoever. He knows right from wrong, he just doesn't institute it. It's so frustrating.
I think it's time I found another child psychologist to take him to. Maybe family counseling or something. I know there's something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is. I spend a lot of time with my kids. All summer long, I've gotten up early to work so I could spend the days with them, swimming, biking, etc. We do a lot together as a family and the 2 older ones get to go a lot of places with other people. My children are not neglected in any way. My husband spends a lot of time in the evenings with them, especially the 8-year-old. We know that he demands more attention and we try to give that to him, but this is getting exhausting.
I know everyone here has been trying to help and I appreciate that. More than anything, I just need a place to vent. I think it's time, though, to see a counselor again. I'm also going to look into alternative medicine, ie nonaggressive diets. Maybe there is something to that. It seems to be true in animals. Again, thanks for letting me vent and offering up suggestions or insight. I do appreciate it.
Mom with fighting son, please see reply below nm
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fighting family too
I come from one of those families too...holiday wasn't complete if the police didn't come or EMS...when I met my husband and went to a family function with him I did not know how to act. I kept waiting for something to happen but nothing did, they are close, they love one another and enjoy being together. Needless to say we stopped going to family functions on my side and my own children do not know what its like to have one of those holidays and hopefully never will.
I come from one of those fighting families.
There have been many, but the defining event would have to be at my father's viewing when his own brother started a fight in front of the open casket. If it were a screenplay, it would have to be a comedy, because the reality of it was too painful to endure. Needless to say, I don't deal with my family unless I have to. I've had too many holidays ruined over the years, and when my children were small, I realized that their holidays would be ruined, as well, if I kept returning to these toxic family gatherings. Now we do things on our own, and life is much nicer. We don't have the Norman Rockwell gatherings of 20 or so people, but that's ok. Maybe some day when I'm a grandmother and great-grandmother, our healthy family will have grown to Norman Rockwell size, and then we'll have a family group that wants to spend time with each other. That is so much better than dreading family gatherings!
There is virtually no fighting. (sm)
I don't hate him. But the opposite of love is indifference, and that's his diagnosis of me. I have to agree. He doesn't have a cure for that. He only does couples counseling if solving all the issues would make me satisfied. But if DH changes all the things I list, he'd just be the right husband for somebody else. That's my problem.
But chicking and dog fighting is illegal.....
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If you're still fighting then you still care.
That's what I have been told multiple times. We aren't fighting anymore here. DH thought that meant we were happy, but I was feeling depression and apathy.
Rooster fighting is illegal in CA, yet there is a place (sm)
I can see from the freeway that is acres upon acres of little tent-shaped coops that house chained-up fighting roosters. It's been there for 30 year - and I can't figure out WHY.
um, what about deceased hubby family and $millions she was fighting for?
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what about dead hubby's millions, fighting her stepson for
she's been fighting to get millions from her dead hubby estate, fighting the son-in-law. Howard is her attorney for that, which has been going on for years. That family has motive.
she's probably in FLORIDA!!!
Yes, it is hot and I am in Florida
I feel the same way, very hot, do not feel like working.
Are you a Florida gal?
Tax free weekend here, too. I'm going shopping!
Hi From Florida
Hi All,
I live in South Florida and I am new to MT Stars. Anybody else from Florida?
At least in Florida
Arrest records are public record. I can go on my county's website and find out if someone has been arrested and what they've been arrested for.
Yep.Florida had one, wonder if we still have it..
When I moved here 14 years ago it was over 500 bucks per car. We did not know that, my husband was just out of law school. It was another way of saying, Yankee go home. I don't know if I dreamed it or not but I think this may have been changed. Not sure. People who still have it should have a redo of the Boston Tea Party only with car plates. LOL.
in Florida also....no problems with
I have heard of HARTZ causing many problems in animals but not Frontline or Advantage. You could probably Google this issue to see what they are saying *out there* about these products but personally, myself, and my daughter (who has 3 dogs and 2 cats) have had no problems with these 2 products. Best of luck to you! 
Jacksonville, Florida...
Always something to do and the weather was beautiful...
Florida vacation
There are several things to consider when planning your vacation to the theme parks: If you stay in Kissimmee you'll have to drive to the parks. There has been a lot of road construction on southwest side or Orlando. I don't know if it's completed or not. The hotels associated with the parks have a lot of extras for the kids so you can relax while they watch movies in the pool, ect. The rooms are often suites with murals and fun beds for the kids. There are some that are close to the parks, with shuttles, that might be a bit more affordable than the big ones on the parks. While you certainly have to go to the Magic Kingdom, especially for the younger kids, if you love the big rides Universal's Islands of Adventure is a must too. Our kids are into the bigger thrill rides so they prefer Universal. There's also a nice area for the younger kids at Islands of Adventure that has a Dr Suess theme. October will still be hot down here, but if you want to take a day trip over to the beach it's best to come before December. December temperatures are typically fall-like, but it can get down into the 40s on occasion.
hi there - I'm in south florida....sm
and due to the multi-multi ethnic groups here - MULTITUDES of different groups - we have it all in the supermarkets....
You never had chopped liver? Never eaten chicken livers and onions together just fried up? Never had chicken livers wrapped in bacon and then cooked? Ramaki's I think they are called (can't remember)....
The Argentinians I just read eat twice as much beef as Americans....not a good thing...*lol*
Hmm, what does Florida not allowing have to do with ?
Does Florida allow more things then say the rest of the states or something? Please explain.
The Florida Keys, they are everywhere!
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west florida
3.41 a gallon.
Florida Native
Hey!
My dad used to take me to a campground that was right on the beach. Of course as I go to write this the name of the place has slipped my mind, I'll have to find out and get back to you. But it wasn't that expensive at all (definitely cheaper than a hotel room or condo) and it was so much fun! There is a park right there and a dock to go fishing on and at night you can catch ghost crabs on the shore!
Hope this is helpful! When I find the name of the place I'll let you know!
I'm in Florida and spend about $175/wk for 5 sm
I'm in Florida, and it is me, my husband, our 2 kids (son 7 and daughter 11), and my father-in-law, and I swear my FIL, who is 5Ǝ" and 158 lbs, eats more than my husband, who is 6Ɖ" and 345 lbs. FIL had to have a feeding tube put in last July, and I had to cut down meals by half because we were having so many leftovers and wasting money. Just when I thought I had it figured out, he was able to get the tube removed, so I'm back to making meals for an army. I just wish I had his metabolism as he just does not seem to gain weight and even had to go on high-calorie Ensure when he had the feeding tube to gain weight. I shudder to think of what my grocery bill will be when my son hits puberty  I don't buy stuff for lunches here at home as we (FIL and I) will just eat a sandwich or leftovers from the fridge
As far as special foods, we don't really buy anything out of the ordinary. I buy frozen vegetables instead of canned unless it is for a recipe, and for a while we were buying meat at a butcher shop but have had to cut that out for now. It was really good but was close to DH's work, and if he couldn't pick it up while he was in the area, it was a 45-minute drive. I cook most things from scratch, except lasagna because I hate making it. Once a month, we have a luncheon at church that I bring a dish and a dessert, and I cook Wednesday night dinner there one night per month, but I get reimbursed for the Wednesday night dinner. I do include paper products and toiletries in with my grocery budget but that's it, and I usually go to Sam's once a month for those.
I have it easy compared to my parents though. My dad got paid once a month, and there were 4 kids at home all the time, 5 when my sister came up during the summer. They used to have 3 grocery carts slap full of food, and my mom figured out that it took something like 18 boxes of cereal to last a month, each one with a date marked on it so we didn't go through them too quickly. And to keep my brother from using a mixing bowl and a serving spoon to eat cereal We also had a freezer to keep extra bread and other things, and my mom also used to mix in powdered milk when the gallon was half-way gone. I never knew until I was grown, so she definitely blended it well.
When I lived in S. Florida, I heard ..sm
I thought that sort of thing is illegal in this country?
http://www.mojomoon.net/santeria.html
Florida or California beaches
Which ones clearer? Florida as clear as ones in like Jamaica/MExico? What beaches are best for family vacation?
Florida vacation spots
My favorite spot is Santa Rosa Island just on the other side of Pensacola, FL. Although was run out twice due to hurricanes (10 years apart exactly) but was on the last night of vacation. I can also recommend the Iberostar resorts in Mexico - Carmen Del Playa and Cozumel for family - Cancun is more for the young adults/adults. It was actually less to go to Mexico than Florida with an all-inclusive package.
Wednesday, May 30 for Miami-Florida
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in S. Florida to board a pet is $15/night
The beach in my hometown in Florida (sm)
I would buy a cheesy little beach cottage and paint it tacky colors and have lots of plants outside and open my own little herbal remedies shop! Haha! That's what I want to do when I'm old and retired!
It was over 90 degrees at 9:30 am in South Florida.
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Do you know where in Florida this is? Is it St. Johns River? sm
my mom lives in Florida and if it is in the right location, she would love that!
Anyone watching the story out of Florida sm
about the little girl (Caylee) that's been missing for five weeks and her mom (Caycee) is in jail? i'm watching the court stuff that's going on. they are going to decide if she should get bail or not. i've seen some interviews with Caycee's mom (Cindy) on the news, and she is a witch. Cindy is on the stand right now and i just think the whole thing seems suspicious. Cindy claims that Caycee has had this babysitter for three years and used to take Caylee to her and the mom has never once met the babysitter? i think that sounds weird.
anyway, it's interesting and I sure hope the little girl is still alive.
I'm from Amelia Island, Florida (sm)
If camping is not your thing, you can look up vacation rentals in the area and get great deals on condos and/or hotels during that time. It is located just past the FL/GA line so very North Florida, about 1/2 an hour before Jacksonville. It is a small island, one of Florida's oldest cities, and an old pirate town. The streets are lit up at night downtown with lights in the trees and many of the streets are brick. (Can you tell I love it?) If you are looking for a beach area with more entertainment, such as Ripley's museums, etc., a similar but somewhat busier beach town is St. Augustine, FL. I will try to find the Website I usually use when looking for rentals and post that later in case you are interested. You can get some really good deals this time of year.
I have absolutely been there! Florida panhandle or
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car insurance quadruples for teens in florida
it's not *spoiling kids* what with Florida rates, that's a given.......quadruples for kids 25 and under.......check it out yourself....it's not spoiling. I also moved out at 18 and did it all myself but I didn't drive until I was 26 or 28 so car insurance was never an issue back in the days for me. Today, it's a different world and car insurance definitely depends on WHERE YOU LIVE.
If you live in very small-town America I suppose what you said is very correct......
I'm in Florida 30 years and those beautiful beaches
There are plenty of beaches in S. Florida where they have found over the many years MEDICAL WASTE DUMPING. So, no I don't agree that Florida's beaches are all beautiful..........maybe northeast and northwest in the state but certainly not in south florida......
just my take is all........
Jupiter, Florida - one mile to ocean!
And hey, it's for sale! Have different priorities now - so need to downsize.
Hurricanes? Survived 3 direct hits with very little problems - that scare is a bit overblown (pun intended). http://www.move2jupiter.com
*humid* in Florida is putting it VERY mildly....LOL
global warming...I'm in S. Florida and birds
this is NOT normal......been in Florida 30 years and never heard birds in the middle of the night unless one is in the Everglades....and I'm not located there.
Been going on for almost a year.........it's very bizarre to me.
They are not native to Florida; interesting story
as to how they wound up there.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060524-iguanas.html
I like it cold for the holidays. Was in Florida last week and...sm
it just did not feel like Christmastime (temps in the 70s--not that I was complaining). However, I wish the temps here in WA State would get above freezing so that I can get my Christmas/birthday shopping done. Some roads are still a sheet of ice. Your 40-50 degrees sound perfect to me.
In Florida where we lived, we did get permission slips
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Have you considered Florida? They have some of the most beautiful beaches I have
ever had the pleasure of walking on in the U.S. My son was stationed at Eglin AFB in Florida; he and my DIL lived in Ft. Walton Beach, and I would go there quite often...I immediately fell in love with their beaches..I usually don't like sand but theirs is white and very fine..they don't call it the Emerald Coast for nothing. The people are very friendly and I had the time of my life there. I also love to fish and they have the best seafood. I am a native Californian but I LOVE FLORIDA. They have a very special place in my heart...just an idea for vacation..
in florida - autopsy complete - no crime occurred.sm
They said no evidence of any crime occurring - tests ongoing and the rest will take 3-5 weeks to gather all info (drugs, et al).......Dr. Joseph Perper from Broward Medical Examiner's office is speaking now.....no physical injuries were found.....
Sister loves the Florida panhandle. Considering a rental there, even. nm
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good beach in Florida - Bahia Honda
At mile marker 36 (36 miles above Key West) in South Florida is a small place, also a state park, called Bahia Honda. The water is clear, the beach white and soft and you walk so far out into the water and you're still only perhaps knee deep....GREAT place for families and children!! Been living in Florida 30 years and I tell you, this is the BEST beach in South Florida. Cost is like $2 day or $3 day and you can camp or rent cabins there. It's pretty much under 7-Mile Bridge and near Marathon..
anybody from the Cape Coral area of Florida? I have a question.( sm)
We're thinking of possibly moving down to that area at some point but I'm wondering about the home owner's insurance in the wake of the past hurricanes. Housing prices here in the Northeast are just sky-rocketing and compared to us, the housing prices in Cape Coral are significantly less. However, I'm wondering if I'm just trading high housing costs and low insurance here in the NE for low housing and high insurance in Cape Coral. Can anybody give me a ballpark figure on home owner's insurance on, say a $250,000 house in Cape Coral? TIA
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