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Get over it. Abortion is legal, and American women

Posted By: intend to KEEP it that way. on 2009-01-26
In Reply to: If abortion is murder ... - Not Political

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No matter what laws are made, if women want to get an abortion
then they will. I have a couple of abortions prior to a marriage and prior to my 2 children. I have never so called suffered because of my decision, in fact I was young and could not have taken care of any children. I do not regret this decision. Either legal or illegal, makes no difference in a woman making the decision to seak an abortion.
Here Here!!! - If you want to be an American, speak American!!
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If she'd had an abortion you would never even know about it.
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By not having an abortion.

Like I said, it's not ideal, but so many people are so judgemental toward people who have kids young - at least they didn't take the easy way out and get an abortion.  I am not a pro lifer, but I do respect people who are willing to step up and raise their kids no matter what age they are.  I have friends who were forced to have abortions by their parents because they got pregnant young because the parents were so afraid of what people would think, and that's not right either.


I don't think their mom is going to win any mother-of-the year awards, but if she didn't accept Jamie Lynn's decision than she greatly reduces her chances of having a good relationship with the grandchild.  Babies are a gift - even when they aren't born into the perfect suburban home.  I'm not saying teen pregnancy is a good thing, but it happened, and now she has to make the best of a tough situation.


I'm against abortion, as well.
If you're referring to recognizing their civil union as a marriage, I am against it.


If abortion is murder ...
How do you treat a woman who has had an abortion?   Do you treat her differently from a woman who strangled her newborn?  Or a woman who killed the neighbor lady because she wanted the neighbor man for her own?
I agree with abortion being a choice.
should everyone see an ultrasound beforehand?  I am for the choice to do as you choose.  I believe in freedom as well, but there are people out there that believe abortion is murder.  That is all I was stating above there.  What I am saying is that there are circumstances like some named in this thread that shall we say "warrant" an abortion, but those "rules" would need to be up to the lawmaker.  Are we only talking about teenage pregnancies or pregnancies after the age of 45?  What type of pregnancies are we talking about that the mother should look at the ultrasound beforehand?  There would be a lot of ifs, ands, and buts, for this to become a law, wouldn't some agree?  That is all I was stating there.  I think this may have been misinterpreted.  Of course, I believe a woman has the right to choose in regards to her own healthcare whether it be an abortion, a hysterectomy, or to have a fracture fixated.  All the same to me.  Sorry if I have offended anyone, but that is how I feel. 
Anonymous question regarding abortion (sm)

With this being a major factor in the political arena right now I wanted to ask this: 


For anyone who has ever had an abortion (and there are many of us), were/are you ok with it still or did you have a period of extreme guilt/anxiety over it?  I had one and did not terribly regret it, other than a short grief period, until I actually had children.  I went through about two years of horrible guilt and remorse.  I am now pro-life. I feel an abortion kills an innocent child and causes emotional scars for the mother that will never go completely away.  I feel that I am not deserving of complete happiness in my life, ever, because I denied my child the right to have a life and attempt to find happiness.  I know my reasons at that time and I know I felt like it was something I had to do, but the fact is many of us had them to avoid the shame, embarassment and/or financial burden that we feared.  We thought we couldn't give our child a decent life even if we had him/her.  The thing is, for the small price of some embarassment/shame and inconvenience, we could have given a family without a child a chance to have a child to love and raise, we could have given that child an opportunity to grow and seek happiness, even with obstacles to overcome.  Instead, many of us chose a more selfish route, convincing ourselves it was less selfish.  Anyway, that's how I feel about it.  How about you.


I'm pro-choice. Abortion is not murder. SM
Abortions are performed very early on in pregnancy. I'm afraid to say this, but basically, it is a lump of tissue. Women have to right to form their own opinion, but the idea a person is aborting a roly-poly fully formed baby is a crock. This is propaganda devised by right-winged fundamentalists, many of whom happen to be men.

I do believe in practicing safe sex, so abortion will not be needed. That is the ideal, but we are all only human.

No, I never had an abortion. I had my daughter at age 25, after being married 5 years. My daughter was married at 30 and had her first child at 31. We are both Pro Choice.

What about Gay Rights and FOCA (abortion) then?
hmmmm?

We can legalize Gays and Abortion but prostitution, pot, marijuana etc. (much lesser evils) should be "prosecuted heavily", oh come on .... It's all about "feeling good". If gays 'feel good' with each other and teenage moms 'feel good' to abort then what's your issue with pot or marijuana users? Don't they have a right to feel good with all the economic benefits for government?
Whoever said abortion feels good? nm
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I agree..I would even, in this case, opt for abortion.....nm
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Don't you remember Ronald Reagan's stance on abortion? sm
It was "I'm PRO-CHOICE. If the unborn baby has a choice, I am PRO-CHOICE."


You are correct: The majority of people would NOT vote for abortion
But they WOULD vote FOR Reproductive Choice. Speaking of "activist judges" - how do you feel about the handful that installed a War Criminal in our Whitehouse?
Yes, but abortion would be only taking the budding tomatoe, not the whole plant.
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no, abortion is taking a HUMAN life with a soul.
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and the crime rate dropped 20 years after abortion was legalized
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I can see no way this is legal. sm
Do you know who this doc's attorney is? I'd love to hear his take on it. :)
How legal is this??
I have a worker at my home and he is from another country. He tells me he became a citizen of the US about 3 months ago (he has dual now) but get this- says he wants to retire around 55, move back to his country and then the way he figures, be able to get SS from our country. I guess Uncle Sam figures a way for us all to pay thru the nose!
Legal.
If you have a commodity that YOU want to sell, and someone else wants to buy, it's your business. Many men pay "normal women" with dinner and a movie, with the same intent. At least allow the woman to decide how to spend it!

legal. Why not?
what a disgusting way to live your life but why should anybody have the right to tell you not to do so?
WOO HOO!!! i would much rather that be legal
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Wow, is that legal?
don't know but sure isn't very nice. What if your mom ends up needing the money if her retirement funds run out? I'll have to read over POA that I have for my mom, think somewhere there might be a note about acting responsibly in handling the funds? So sorry, terrible thing to happen with family and really hard to pursue if you don't have a lot of money to get into a legal battle!
as I know it - it's legal to pay in April...sm

you might want to just call any CPA's office or H&R Block office to ask that question and I don't think it varies state by state because it's the federales!  *grin*


As long as it is ALL paid in by 4/15 - I think you're 100% fine.  Why should they keep my $$ and use it all year? I can use it until then...*giggles*


Only difference, is most were legal and
not anymore. I do not want to pay more taxes and they pay ??? none perhaps to cover them. I pay enough as it is without adding on extra mouths to my taxes.
Don't know about the legal aspect

But I watch gardening shows all the time. There is a special metal barrier you can get that as I recall comes in different sizes, as much as 3' deep, so once you eradicate the vines on your side of the fence you can put the barrier down right along the fence line to keep the vines from growing in your yard again.


You will probably just have to cut the vines that come over on your side of the fence yourself. Obviously the neighbors aren't going to do anything about it.


If it were me, I would get several estimates from local landscaping firms and take these people to small claims court for the amount it would take to fix the problem. Even if you win, I don't know if you will actually get any money from them. It depends on the laws in your state and how responsive the courts are about enforcing their rulings. I really don't know enough to say anything about that.


Again, if it were me, when I was getting the landscaping done, I would tell the landscaper to spray Roundup or whatever kind of herbicide will kill trumpet vines right along the fence and through the slats as much as possible. If it kills the neighbor's trumpet vine, too bad. My heart bleeds.


Am I a mean person? No. But I think people should take responsibility for the messes they make and take care of recitfying them.


JMHO


It is legal in Nevada.
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Prostitution should be legal
Sure it should be legal. It should be taxed and those women should be given 401k's, profit sharing, and health benefits.
what about alcohol? that's legal
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It is legal in Nevada and they have to
have medical exams, etc. A lot safer than getting it out on the streets anywhere else.
Legal Drinking Age
Many of the states that have chosen to specifically prohibit alcohol consumption by those under age 21 have a variety of exceptions. For example,

Some States allow an exception for consumption when a family member consents and/or is present. States vary widely in terms of which relatives may consent or must be present for this exception to apply and in what circumstances the exception applies. Sometimes a reference is made simply to "family" or "family member" without further elaboration.

....

Some States allow an exception for consumption on private property. States vary in the extent of the private property exception which may extend to all private locations, private residences only, or in the home of a parent or guardian only. In some jurisdictions, the location exception is conditional on the presence and/or consent of the parent, legal guardian, or legal-age spouse.

Some States also allow exceptions for educational purposes (e.g., students in culinary schools), religious purposes (e.g., sacramental use of alcoholic beverages), or medical purposes.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/LegalDrinkingAge.html

Take this to a lawyer. Fight for him. This cannot be legal.
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General legal matter
Definitely take pictures to use in your defense and when you remove those vines from your house, take pictures of the removal of paint too. Most state laws allow you to control whatever is growing over your house, fence and/or yard that results from a neighbor but if you trim their plants that are on your property and happen to kill the entire tree, plant or vine, your neighbor can make you replace them. It's a matter that has no winning situation because you have to live by these people. I say get a free estimate from a landscaper and get an estimate from a painter also, talk to someone in the legal system and see exactly what your options are, and move forward to bring this problem to an end. Once you find out what action you can take, if any, tell your neighbor what you are planning to do and if they do not take care of the problem, you will move forward as planned. No way would I let this go on without doing something about it. Good luck.
Sounds like the legal system
is trying to leave the discipline to the boy's parent. Is that so bad?
legal as long as both parties are 18+
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Lowering the legal drinking age from 21 to 18

I didn't know this was going on.....


The article is long so I didn't copy all of it. See the link below:


College presidents from about 100 of the nation's best-known universities, including Duke, Dartmouth and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.


The movement called the Amethyst Initiative began quietly recruiting presidents more than a year ago to provoke national debate about the drinking age.


"This is a law that is routinely evaded," said John McCardell, former president of Middlebury College in Vermont who started the organization.


"It is a law that the people at whom it is directed believe is unjust and unfair and discriminatory."


And here I do agree with you, which is why I don't want the school to have a legal right (sm)
to teach my child what the teacher personally thinks is right or wrong, but to let me as the parent do that. Yes, they will grow up and decide for themselves, but at that point I will have done what I felt was right.
Is it legal to keep a wild deer as a pet? sm
Someone has had a wild pet deer for a pet in our subdivision for a few years now.  I am a serious animal lover myself, but it has gotten rather old having this deer roaming through the roads and, most of all, eating landscape plants down to nothing.  We have sprayed deer repellent on nearly everything, but the one little area we miss will be chewed right away.  Besides, we have to keep doing it over and over and this stuff is not cheap.  Really getting tiresome.  Do not want to be mean, but what rights do the homeowners in here have??
Rhapsody is a pay site, so it's legal. sm
According to their website:

"MP3s that play anywhere: When you buy a song or an album from Rhapsody, you can put it on your iPod or any other MP3 players, play it on your computer, or burn it to a CD as many times as you want."

Any MP3 file should be able to be put on your computer, iPod, and just about any MP3 player, also on many/most cell phones.
While I don't remember drugs ever being legal
I do know there was a time in this country where "recreational" drugs were legal. After all, that is where Coca Cola got it's name from (from the cocaine that use to be in it). From what I've read, seems to me there wasn't a problem with drugs in this country until it was made illegal ala prohibition. Now due to it being illegal, there is tons of money flowing in a lot of different directions as a result (the millions of jails that are being build to house all the recreational users, etc. plus the money that is made selling it, etc.). Heck, even though it's illegal, it's big business, so I can see everybody that's involved in it regardless of what side they are on fighting to keep it illegal.

YOU so wrong, your SIL IS a legal heir,
since when your brother (her husband) died, SHE WAS STILL MARRIED TO HIM!

Do you want to fight or ignore the fact that the wife inherits from her husband?

So is your nephew, a legal heir.

These 2 are still alive, aren't they?

DO A LITTLE MORE EFFORT THAN THE INSURANCE COMPANY DID AND LOCATE THEM AND GIVE THEM THEIR INHERITANCE MONEY!

The insurance company looked only for 1 year, they do not care to whom they give the money, they have to pay it anyways.
YOU should search longer!

The fact that your newphew was in prison does not disqualify him to get his inheritance from his father or gandfather...


Legit but I would think you have to get a background in legal
because as a scopist you have to go through a court reporters work, basically editing it, don’t know about the pay but you have to be able to work with legal terms. There is a computer program used but if something does not go through on that, then I think you have to revert to using the old way and that would be to read the tapes (like the grocery store tape they used to type on) so I would think school would be in order for this job but it is legit.
General legal matter... maybe somenoe knows

I was wondering if anybody has had this happen to them or someone they know.  I have a problem with neighbors to one side of me who have trumpet vines. These are very invasive and they grow very fast.  When I first moved into my house 10 years ago, they were confined to a very small area along our shared fence.  Now, 10 years later, they are all along the length of the fence, are not being kept trimmed or confined, are reaching the roof of my house, growing inside my garage, behind the washer/dryer, etc.  When I pull them off the side of my house (the side out front where I never go except to wash the windows in the garage once a year) the paint comes off with the leaves, leaving bare spots on the wood.  This is a spot the neighbors can clearly see when they are doing their lawn work.  They sit there and watch the vines grow up the side of my house without even pulling them out, knowing what it does to my paint. 


The roots from the vines are now invading most of my back yard, and they grow about a foot (no joke) a week, so by the time I mow the lawn again, they are way above the height of the grass, sticking out all over.  Now my lawn is ruined, and every year it is just getting worse.  In order to get rid of the vines completely from my yard and property, it will have to be dug up and replaced, and even then it won't do any good because the neighbors have them all over their property and don't care if they have them growing on their roof. 


I have contacted the city, and there is no law on this sort of thing, they told me it would be a civil matter, i.e., small claims court.  I have asked the neighbors countless numbers of times to at least make an effort to keep them contained, and they may cut a little here and there, but a week later, there they are again.  I'm done asking. 


My question is this, has anybody actually gone through with a small claims suit against somebody for this or similar reasons, and what was the outcome?  I have been checking around and it falls under destruction of property and lowering the value of my home.  Thanks for all comments.


 


It's absolutely legal because he's earning it like any other US citizen.
You can move to another country and make your retirement money go further, too. The advantage he has, though, is that he already feels comfortable living in another country.
There is free legal assistance for cases like this (sm)
Look up Legal Aid for your area - if I find a link I will post it for you. I think you need to report what your son has told you to someone!!! Who ordered the visitation? Get in touch with that office and start from there finding out who to report it to.
So make it legal and tax and regulate it, to protect those sm
who are victims currently.
completely agree w/your point on legal/illegal, but sm
I wish the outrage regarding illegals was across the board. When it comes to Mexicans, since they benefit big business and since their only dirty business is under their fingernails, it's okay.

I'm just saying we shouldn't have one standard for one religion or race and a different one for another.
Oh my goodness that's terrible! Do you know here it is legal for people to have them as PETS!? (s
Stay inside and be safe! There is a shelter here for them (NC) because people get them as pets when they are cute little cubs and then many abandon them as soon as they start growing larger, with no thought of the safety of other people!
Is it legal to evict a long-term tenant - sm

 who has always paid the rent on time, simply because they want to 'remodel'?  I've lived here for close to 20 years, and just today out of the blue, the manager walks up and hands me an eviction notice!  I was like, "Huh????" and he said they wanted to "renovate".   But my unit, only.   I guess others have gotten new rugs, appliances, etc. as tenants have come and go, but I've been here forever (and pay rent that is considerbly below market).   I've lived here forever, don't drink, never had a party, keep it pretty clean, etc.   The heater, oven, fridge, bathroom fixtures, etc., are old, but still in perfectly good working condition.  So, I asked if I'd be able to come back afterward, and the manager said they were going to raise the rent (to far more than I can afford) once the renovation is complete. 


So my question is --  Do you think it's legal to evict a tenant just because you want to put in a new rug, new paint, etc., and charge more to the next tenant?  I'm thinking about calling a lawyer, but don't know if I have a case or not.  If I move, I'm going to have to go at least 60-70 miles away, in order to find affordable rent. 


                 


 


Free legal assistance link - yes, start now!! sm
http://www.abanet.org/legalservices/findlegalhelp/faq_freehelp.cfm
15? I wouldn't let mine behind the wheel even if it was legal learner's permit age.
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