From what the police have uncovered so far, it doesn't seem to be heading to a good outcome
Posted By: wimt on 2008-07-22
In Reply to: What a story this has been. I pray this child is still alive. I SM - Holding onto hope
I agree it's very fishy that the grandmother didn't ever have the opportunity to drop off or pick up the little girl from the babysitter. Considering she and the mom lived with the grandparents, you'd think she'd have had one opportunity in these years to have met the babysitter. Well, it's all fishy. Seems to not be heading to a good outcome. Don't know what the mom is trying to prove by not saying anything and the grandma... she's a real piece of work.
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It doesn't look good!
I sure wish our government could see how many factors they are responsible for, such as giving our jobs away.
it doesn't do any good...?
except for maybe her seeing how she's acting! You say she cares about people... well then she should definitely care about her own father. Confronting on her behavior is your way of sticking up for him. You dont need to do it in a nasty or insulting way, you could ask her softly, do you know how you sound? or do you know how you are acting? Just something that MAYBE she will think about. If not then she is not as caring as you are hoping she is. Of course it's always easy to say those things when you're not the one involved. If it was either of my sisters acting this way, id point it out IMMEDIATELY, but that's just the way we are. I guess it depends on the kind of relationship you guys have, but she has no right to be acting as she does. She doesn't have to feel exactly as you do, but you know. You dont have to be sorry, I just was trying to get down to the bottom of it. i do the same thing out of frustration! :) good luck
HOORAY! What a wonderful outcome!
Thanks so much for letting us know. I've been thinking about your son all day.
Tell him Happy Birthday from the MT board. LOL!!
I am glad yours had a positive outcome..sm
my father died of cancer, liver, lung, brain cancer. An alternative treatment put him into remission for a year. He then took the *traditional* medical route and died within three months. I guess I have no faith in doctors any longer and certainly not in traditional medicine, as I view 99% of it as $$ driven and not true patient care or concern, dictated to us, the patients, the human beings,by the pharmaceuticals, insurance companies, and traditional physicians who have been cubicaled into *standard operating procedures* which are shoved down our throats, and now court ordered, as the only means of survival, all the while depleting our bank accounts and sentencing some to an untimely death, wherein they throw up their hands in disgust, saying *well, that one didn't make it, guess we'll try it on the next one and hope for a better result.* We are only guinea pigs to them any more, vessels to be tested on, and pushed aside when their precious *treatments* do not work. There is no compassion any more, for the human body. Doctors see themselves as gods, thinking they, and only they, hold a persons life or death in their hands. Their egos have gotten in the way and $$ and greed have taken over proper patient care. Personally, I have no faith whatsoever in traditional medicine any more. The *miracle* happens when one's own mind decides that it does not want to be ill any longer. We heal ourselves, if we allow ourselves to. I have seen it work miracles where miracles should not be expected. I have also seen it take a life when a life does not want to go on any longer. State of mind is everything. Doctors and pills, and vicious chemicals that ravage a body and destroy the soul, are not. But that is just how I have come to feel from the experience of *modern medicine*. No bashing intended towards you or anyone else. Just offering another perspective on things. Like you said earlier, agree to disagree, and on this subject, we totally disagree. That does not mean that either or us is right or wrong. We just had different life experiences. I am glad yours was a positive experience...mine and *Joel's mom*, not so much. So, I will stick that fork in myself now, as well, as I am just as done.
Yes, he's my oldest. So this is all new to me. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a very good
relationship with his father. There's a lack of respect there because his father never has held a job or took care of us. So, it's almost as if my son views is father as being on the same level as him - one the kids that mom has to take care of. So my son has always felt he could talk however he wanted to his dad and his father on the flip side has always acted like big kid with my son. I don't think having my son talk to his father would help very much.
I've met the kids my son has become friends with and I've met their parents. The parents all seem to have the same values as I do and the kids are pretty typical boys - no drugs or alcohol. They play football in our backyard after school.
I really do hope it's just a phase, but even if it is just a phase, I'm not sure I'll survive!
Nawwww CA doesn't look good but
you could come to St. George Utah where I live and where it is in the 50's during the day and only down to the 30's at night during the coldest months! I'm originally from Central Wisconsin and I've seen 70 below with the wind chill factor! Very cold by those great lakes! I'm loving St. George, awesome in the Winter! Only 110 to 118 in the summer and that only lasts a couple months! C'mon out I'll show ya around!!!
Thanks, am heading out to see the
veterinarian as soon as I can in just a few minutes, I really appreciate this information.
Pregnancy outcome lasts 18+ years, sickness usually
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Heading to DC with my hubby. sm
My DS has been at Georgetown for the past week taking some medical classes that he will be able to get credit for once he starts college. We pick him up on Monday but DH and I are going up Saturday morning for a little alone time. Can't wait.
You're worried about the mother? Doesn't sound like she did a very good job herself! nm
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...information. That heading just didn't look right....lol nm
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Report him to the police, let the police...
help you solve the problem.
It is obvious that you and your mom alone cannot do it on your own.
You are much too lenient, if you let it go on, it will not end well.
ROFLMAO!! But hey, with that humor, she probably doesn't stay mad long! Good for her keeping you.
dodging the bullets! Keeps it interesting! And keeps you honest! ![Cowgirl](http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_4_124.gif")
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we're heading to Maine in a couple of weeks
Can't wait- love the shore in the summer. What part of Maine are you in? We go to the Wells/Ogunquit area. Would love to stay at Drake's Island just can't afford it in the summer! :) Any restaurant recommendations?
Hey, have at it. If you want a lazy, apathetic, not affectionate, doesn't listen, doesn't make
can reach him!!! Let me know if you're interested.
It doesn't make me mad but it doesn't sound intelligent either (sm)
I am sure if all of those people who were aborted were living, some would be good and some would be bad, in the same proportion as there is good to bad now. Your statement makes no sense. So somehow the babies who were aborted were meant to be aborted because they were bad seeds? Whatever. Sorry, that's just silly.
It doesn't always work that way though - some give but it doesn't come back like that nm
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click on Gab, see prayer heading at the top, click to see
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And what would the police have done? I'm sure the police sm
have a lot of things going on they have to attend to, like traffic accidents, etc. What could the police have done in this situation? Make the lady take the dog to the vet? Take the dog themself? I don't know of any policeman who would have been able to do anything except maybe give the dog's owners a ticket for allowing loose dogs to lie in the street. Yes, it's a sad situation. But it was not the driver's dog. I don't think she had any obligation whatsoever to this dog or its owners. Dogs do not belong in the street!
I'd still try the police
Chances are good the little varmint is on their radar for something else. If they do come out, and if they manage to come out often enough, maybe Mom will get po'd enough to do something about it. Or maybe he'll do something stupid enough with the cops there that they take further action.
The police have enough to take care of besides
a person calling them if they got a card from an unknown person?? That is not what the police are for, them out investigating a birthday card and someone else is being robbed, assulted or whatever.. My goodness, think about your answer before you do post. The person on the post seems to be a caring person. If you have emergency, then the police should be called!!
Have you tried calling the police?
I live in a quiet suburb of a larger city and the police are very strict about keeping the peace and keeping out the riff-raff. I've been here about 16 months and I've called the police about 8 times. Other neighbors also call. Nothing much gets done because the hoodlumbs are too smart to be caught red-handed. But there's a long list at the police station of how many times the cops have been called to that address.
The police should be told about this, & maybe someone in the
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You can get a police escort to go with you (sm)
If you have somewhere else you can go, you can get the police to escort you to get your things.
I would call the police for sure and
state to them you feel there is abuse going on. You can remain anonymous. I once went to look at a puppy for sale and the breeder brought him out into the living room. The puppy wouldn't even come out from under the table. It was so scared. I left there thinking I'd never seen a puppy act that way and it weighed on my mind. A few days later I read in the paper this man had been arrested for cruelty to animals. Trust your instinct and report this.
definitely would call police
and file a report. Then i would inform hospital that if the ring is returned within 24 hours, no charges will be filed, no questions. Otherwise it will be vigorously pursued.
And others can't help being the niceness police.
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Keep calling the police and s/m
You can get restraining orders for longer than 10 days. The initial one is always temporary. She needs to see an attorney on top of the cops. It sounds like the cops are sympathizing with him and not doing their jobs properly. The cops can verify how many times they have been called and have come out. This is what the judge needs to issue the restraining order. I would keep calling the cops and documenting EVERYTHING. This is about the only way to get him to stop. You need to do the same. It sounds like your dad has either a serious mental problem or is just a kid that never grew up and needs to get over himself. An attorney can get you more information on the restraining order, but the first time he violates it, you need to call the cops. Who cares if he takes off? The cops have an OBLIGATION to go and check it out. If he is a habitual offender of violating it, they can make him wear an ankle bracelet to track him. There are things that can be done, but only you and your mother can make it happen. You can't just sit back and take no for an answer. Be strong, otherwise you'll be dealing with this the rest of your life.
And if the police and school do not take it seriously s/m
as some small towns do, I would also call the local newspaper, television station, etc until you get the results that you want. Zero tolerance is zero tolerance no matter who it is.
Please report this to the police (sm)
This is threatening and dangerous behavior. he is not afraid to knock on your door or to leave a note. Please call the police and report this immediately.
Thought Police
Oh, heck. So she has the hots for a boy-toy. Big deal! Who cares!? She already said she's not going to do anything about it.
We all have thoughts, fantasies. I'm assuming you're human & have them too. I know I have. I just figure it's some primal response to height or face shape or jaw prominence or something else that the godhead specifically engineered in order to ensure survival of the fittest, & I just laugh & forget about it because regardless of biology, the social situation won't accommodate it. As it sounds like OP has done.
Relax, for heaven's sake. Thoughts do not abuse make.
I would probably talk to the police...sm
Maybe they could go pay him and his parents a visit.
There is no telling what my husband would do. I don't want to think about it. He would probably go to jail for beating the kid. LOL
The police can watch your car --sm
while you testify. This is not their first rodeo ride either, and probably get this all the time. Let his friends try it and get caught. Then you can testify against them too. ha ha. Glad to hear you are going!! thumbs up!
I would call the police now - he was scouting to see if you were alone and if there were any men
About 5 years ago an MT was murdered in Knoxville by someone selling magazines. She worked for a national and was alone, but in a nice neighborhood, upstairs working in a townhouse. That guy may seem weak enough but he may have partners. Didn't mean to scare you, but it really made me get cold chills.
Yes - I saw one here who helps with police cases
and she was very accurate. I do believe some people have this gift. If you think about it, shows like Medium and Heroes are becoming more and more popular and I think people are opening up to the fact that this is real. I love John Edward too but he's booked for the next trillion years!
I can't believe all of you are upset about the police comment...
but not that she will be sent to a "meaner mom and dad". lol Priceless and typical.
To me, no biggie. Plus I don't particularly like cops ;)
Poster was having a moment. There is far worse people say and do to kids. And that can be turned around, easily. Geez.
:)
Spelling police? Pleeeeeze no...
Unless you NEVER make mental errors (its versus it's, your versus you're), please don't correct our mistakes. Rest assured, I always kick myself when I see a typo or grammatical error that I've made without anyone having to point it out. However, this board being named 'gab' implies a casual come-as-you are atmosphere...i.e. no spelling police. We will return the favor. Thanks!!! 
It is better to call the police or the ambulance
if he is in such a miserable condition. Sleeping his stupor off in his truck.
He might die due to alcohol poisoning.
Do something, have him institutionalized and get rid of him. He is playing you! Don't let there be a next time, worse than this time.
yes, but I did apologize for being the spelling police.
I still think you should contact your police dept...
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Spelling police is not necessary on the MTStars forums.
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But why didn't you just call anonymously? The police could have sm
taken care of it had you called anonymously. You didn't have to be outside with him while the dog was barking. I don't understand.....
Call womans shelter/police and ask them where to
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Ask for first/last name and then call local police department
to see if they will do a check on these people to see if there are any reports of misconduct. This sounds too good to be true, actually. Light housing for free rent may lead to cleaning the pool and pressure washing the house.
I have been trying to find a room mate off Craig's List. There are many legitimate but why take a chance of ending up profiled on Nancy Grace, is my thought. Another woman I know who has done this successfully takes their name and birth date and calls the local police dept. She said when she tells them she is a single woman and about to interview a stranger for a roommate, they oblige.
I'd also say, take a gun if you have one.
Robbery is going to skyrocket in this economy. That is another concern.
You can get in trouble for being spelling police here but as far as living
where I live, these places can be rural as well as in the city- I don’t want to put up with undesirables. Take that anyway you would like.
Well, I called the police, told them the situation
and they came by and picked him up because he had a warrant for his arrest. Apparently, the last time he was in the ER, he had gotten combative and tried to escape and in the scuffle of the EMTs, nurses, doctors, and security guards trying to get him into the restraints, he kicked a security guard in the face who then decided to press charges because he had already been subjected to verbal abuse from him.
The police told me they are going to take him to the station, call the city where the warrant is and let them come and pick him up and decide what to do with him. I told the police officer that I would not be going to the ER if that is where he ended up. I would not be bailing him out of jail. And I didn't want him back. Tomorrow, I'm seeing an attorney about the legalities of keeping him out of the house and getting a court order to keep him away.
I still want him to take the airline ticket I bought him and go to his dad. I don't know if his father wants the responsibility but I don't care. Somebody other than me needs to take care of him.
Thanks everyone for listening and advising and encouraging.
Send the police to his house, this will teach him
a lesson, it is harassment.
Gift Ideas for a new police officer? sm
My nephew is graduating from the Police Acad. in a couple of weeks. Does anyone have any ideas what would be a good gift? I hate giving money. I did look on line and got some ideas but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has had experience with this. TIA
The local police department told me to call them so
I called the department back (not 911) and advised them to please not tell anyone else that. I also had the email address for this person at Paws and sent her an email telling her sorry I got her at a bad time, did not mean to interrupt her day and to have a nice day. I went back within the next week to check again on this doggie, no other reason. Hubby did not particularly like when I told him (later after the deal done) but fed her again and then followed her to see where she was going. She went to some homes close around and I figured maybe that was where she lived. No one that I called there seemed to have wanted to give assistance. I could not bring her home when I first saw her because noticed she had droppy boobies and need puppies close around, but ?? I never expected a reply like that from someone who supposedly helps animals. Makes you kinda cynical, doesn’t it?
Cut the snippy remarks back and forth. Spelling police are not
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I am wondering why you didn't immediately call the police
from your cell or if you don't have one go home and call and then stay there with the dog until they arrived? I'm shocked.
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