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Friend in kidney failure, on dialysis now, said she could not understand "them" (ESLs)

Posted By: Very, very ticked off on 2009-03-01
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I got a call last night from a friend who goes back over 40 years. She was in the hospital in kidney failure on dialysis. I was shocked. I knew she had diabetes and high blood pressure but had spoken with her the other day and she mentioned no problems then. I asked her had she been taken her medications like she should have and she said well, maybe not really like I should have and then she told me she really could not understand her physicians, they were foreign and she did not know maybe just how bad off she really was. I am furious. I wish I had known the whole story. I asked "why did you not change doctors?" and her reply was, oh, I just didn’t. She is calm, submissive and I am the opposite, in your face and give me some answers. I have smoke blowing from my ears!  This is an older woman in her 60s who now waits for a kidney who is not on the top of the list because of her other ailments. She does not know the process of getting a kidney but I know what the outlook is for her. How many more people do you think are out there who might not get the kind of medical help they need because of them not being able to understand these foreign doctors? Furious for me is an understatement.


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My experience with kidney failure

Several years ago we lost a white shepherd to kidney failure.  She was only 4.  She spent about a week on IV fluids and seemed to come around some but was still weak when we brought her home.  As soon as she starting eating again, even the special Eukanuba kidney diet, she went into failure again.  We had to take her back in 2 days to have her put down.  I was an absolutely hearbreaking experience to see her suffer.  I feel for all of the owners dealing with it now. 


The cause of her kidney failure was never really determined.  The first question the vet asked me though was what kind of food I used.  I had 2 other dogs at the time and they were fine, so probably wasn't the food.  He did come to the conclusion that it was a "high tech rat poison" because they had another German Shepherd with the same problem.  It was a police dog and had been intentionally poisoned.  That dog made it through though. 


My thoughts are with you and your kitty. 


    


      


liver, kidney and heart failure...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003104.htm
A time of 5 years should not have caused kidney failure.
This is too short a time.
Did she have heart problems also?
I know people who drag along for 30 years until they finally succumb to organ failure.
Hydrationis what is needed here. Kidney failure is being prevented.
Cost is high but well worth it. One can also get IV drip with lactated ringers and do it yourself. Fluid is seeped into area between shoulder blades to be absorbed by puppy's body. One of mine needed a blood transfusion, both needed IV antibiotics. Five days in house is typical.
Yep, southern to the core and do a lot of ESLs
and understand, never wish anyone anything bad so to them just wish they would go on a permanent vacation in Tahiti. What I really hate is when 1 after another after another continue on the weekends and that is all you get. UGH.
I don't despise "them"
I am ignorant about a lot of things, not just this particular topic. Doesn't mean I'm full of hate. If it happened to be a member of my family or friend, though it would be hard for me to understand, I would do my best to try to learn more and be there for them. I agree with you that we as parents need to be there for our children regardless. I won't lie to you and tell you that it wouldn't disappoint me if one of my children were to tell me they were homosexual..... but you know, life throws disappointment at us all the time... how we deal with that is what counts. You sound like a very supportive mother and I think that is great!
This is not a "you" problem. This is a "them"
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you are NOT a failure
The marriage may be, but not you. It broke my heart to see that. Your life will get better. Getting hit is something no one should accept and it sounds like you are suffering in so many other ways. Move on.
Please try not to worry. Are you sure that are not kidney SM
stones? My opinion is the hospital sent letter as a matter of protocol. When people are discharged from ER, they usually receive followup orders. Maybe they forgot.

Followup with PCP, but try not to worry. Monday will be here soon enough.
kidney surgery
I am facing kidney surgery in the very near future to cut out a urethral stricture from my single kidney (congenital).  My doctor informed me this is a relatively common procedure but that it is not a surgery one can just bounce right back from.  I'm just curious if anyone can tell me whether you've had this surgery or know someone who has, and know their recovery rate and prognosis.  He also told me there is a 2% to 3% chance this could not take and the surgery might have to be repeated.  My doctor told me one month after the surgery I will have to have a second surgery to remove a stent that he will temporarily place.  He said I will be in the hospital overnight (for the initial surgery) and then probably won't feel like doing my regular activities for at least two weeks.  Thanks for any information.
Polycystic kidney disease....
My husband was just diagnosed with this.  It is the mostly common inherited disease there is and many people don't know they have it.  It generally leads to renal failure later in life.  There is a new clinical trial beginning right now for a drug that is supposed to shrink the cysts.  This is the third phase and so far it has been extremely successful.  The clinical trial is at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore.  Let me know if you need more info.
I swear I am going to have heart failure sm
if one more person walks into my office and scares the bejesus out of me. I'm so intent on concentrating on this doc and they walk in and say "hey mom" and I just totally jump out of my chair. They they say, "Sorry, didn't mean to scare you." My hubby has a bad habit of doing that when I am reading, too. I read every night for about an hour at bedtime with the nightstand light on. I'm totally involved in the book and I can't see him when he comes through the door because of the light and all of a sudden, he just appears like a ghost and I nearly fall out of bed because of fright. Of course he says, "Sorry, didn't mean to scare you."   GRRR.  
What does a kidney infection feel like? sm
I have had UTIs in the distant past but never a kidney infection....wondering if I have one now though. 
My husband had a kidney stone
and as the doctor was explaining to me what they found and where it was and what they would do I made a comment that I understand completely and then asked a question. I don't remember the question but it included a medical term and the doctor said to me "oh, do you have medical experience?" and I told him that I was an MT who transcribes acute care. The doctor then laughed and said that by the looks of his reports that come back that he didn't think MTs had any medical experience and were just typing.

Yes, irritated me as well. I dont' know why people think we don't understand what we transcribe. Understanding is a huge part of the job.
ANY relationship based on lies is doomed to failure

Can't have wait time if you have a child in shunt failure
My daughter has shunted hydrocephalus. She's gone from a normal-acting child with no symptoms whatsoever, to having seizures, lethargy, and respirations of 9 with no warning whatsoever. She needed a medflight (because we were out of town on the way to the zoo), immediate CT scan and immediate surgery. I am terrified of universal healthcare and the wait times it would bring.
Oh God no, you are not being a baby or a failure, and no woman should forget about being assaulted..
by her own spouse. Remember the marriage vows, to love and to cherish? You cannot fully love someone if you do not respect them as a person, and you cannot respect someone you strike and assault, no woman should tolerate violence of any kind, even once. You yourself say that there were many other issues, and I truly feel that a new life with a new start is a wonderful and necessary thing for you. I have been married almost 29 years, I cannot even tolerate verbal abuse and my husband knows it, mutual respect has to come first in any relationship. God bless you, keep praying for wisdom and strength, and see this as a learning and strengthening experience.
I lost a male cat to renal failure that started out -(sm)-
as a blocked urinary tract. First his behavior changed, but it was just slight, so I barely noticed. He also began drinking more water, and going to his litter box frequently, but just peeing a little at a time. Then I had to leave town and my petsitter called the next day and said he was sleeping in his litter box. I was too dumb to know what that meant, and told her it was probably the heat spell we were having at the time, and to leave a fan on for him. Next morning she called from the emergeny vet's office. She had come and found him collapsed unconscious (probably from unimaginable pain) on the floor. They got him in the nick of time. He was completely blocked and would have died within the hour. As it was, although he seemed fine for the next month, the toxins from the backed-up urinary tract destroyed his kidneys, and he had to be put down at only age 4.

Male cats are more prone to urninary crystals and blockage than females, and Persians are especially prone to this, because they have teeny tiny little ureters. If your cat is long-haired, could he have Persian in him?

Regardless, I feel responsible for losing my cat because I didn't know about the symptoms. It sounds like he's trying to tell you something, so a vet checkup and maybe some blood or urine tests. Better safe than sorry. Oh, and one more thing: DON'T ever let a vet prescribe the pain killer/anti-inflammatory drug, Metacam (meloxicam) for a cat. (Especially the off-label use of the liquid version, which is for dogs only.) It can cause renal failure in cats. My current cat was given just one 0.5 mL oral dose of Metacam in the vet's office, and became violently ill for 2 days. Thank goodness I didn't give her what she was sent home on! THEN I looked it up online and OMG -- there are hundreds of people out there who have lost cats to Metacam.
Incidental finding, polycystic kidney disease
Not something that I would have liked to hear but being as older, told the doctor maybe can outlive the cysts, i.e. having to be on dialysis and/or dying because of them. I had an MRI of another region and those picked up, told someone in my family had to have and know of no one. The cysts I have can go anywhere in your body so they will watch them every few months, no abnormal lab tests or the like, found those about 2 years ago. The kidney cysts are the only ones I know of.
a friend's b/friend died last year, drank, took vicodin...

i understand
I have just become single again and have 2 kids.  What I believe is that obviously we have spent so many years doing "kid stuff", going to the grocery, errands, etc. that we have a hard time hooking up with single guys because we lose sight of who we are beyond mom, household manager, etc.  Try to remember or imagine what you would be doing if you didn't have kids and resosibilities or had time to do it.  Whether it is rafting, reading and discussing things, being at a college class, hiking or some particular sport or interest(chess club, rock climbing, etc) you HAVE to make an effort to do these things, even if it constrained by time and $$hook up with a free group and devote a few hours a week to it.  THEN eventually you'll be in the place to meet the person you would hang out with even if you weren't a mom. 
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I understand....
I worked away from home until just recently. The pressures to "donate" are horrible. My friend and I finally decided that we would allocate "X" amount of dollars for giving, once gone, the well was dry. Saying "NO" is not easy, and the repayment of debt falls in your lap.

You are probably more talented than you realize. Be creative if you work from home. Work hours while the children are asleep, or see if you can work split shifts to accomodate your children's schedule.

If you are unable to pay back on the taxes you owe right away, just attach a signed letter with your tax papers requesting a payment plan. You can set it up to reflect a reasonable monthly payment, include the first payment, and the IRS will work with you.

If you are incurring (sp?) debt, make sure that it is for something useful that is going to last for a while.
I understand what you are saying, but
I don't have a husband or significant other either, and when I did I still took out the trash, mowed the lawn, and what is snuggling?  When the lump on the sofa was asked to leave, the only thing I missed was having to tell him to move to the other side. 
I understand what you are saying, but did --sm
you read my post at all? How can one make *good food choices* when the govt. makes that impossible to do? I eat all organic these days, when ever possible. I eat lean red meat once a week. I eat a lot of veggies and fruits and try to find something that does not have HFCS in it...which is terribly difficult to do. It is a losing battle when all the cards are stacked against you. My vice is not food or overeating. My vice is what the govt inflicts on unsuspecting and disbelieving people who think that obesity is a choice...it isn't. and neither is diabetes or hypothyroidism. Good food choices do NOT override this condition. This condition was inflicted on me by money grubbing *professionals* who have their heads where the sun don't shine. If you think todays doctors and pharmaceuticals have our best interests at heart, you are an ostrich. Research it and do not *assume* that being overweight is a choice. it isn't. and simply making *good food choices* is not going to change that fact. JMO
He may not really understand what an IC is--sm
and he is concerned about future income, but really all he needs to be concerned with would be your income tax statement from last year. Personally I don't think he should need that type of letter, just proof of income, which would be tax statement. that is all. JMO
don't understand
If you bought a certain piece of furniture why is bidding involved and why does it have to be done on courthouse steps in the public and all that?   By all means, do what the law says -- sure sounds like they're on your side.  But getting a news station involved isn't a bad idea either.  These people sound like crooks and the public needs to know.  Even just a friend with a video camera to send a film of it all into a station with the hopes of a reporter followup to keep others from being tricked too.  And I sure think you should get something for mental pain and aggravation and loss of interest on your money. 
From what I understand
nobody was "demanding" anything, they were making do just fine with the sinks. This was done because people complained about the sinks being used for this purpose. I guess I just don't get what the big deal is.

People are so afraid that immigrants are going to somehow take over the country, its like this big "us versus them" mentality- its just silly. What, are you worried that they will do what WE did when we "discovered" America to begin with? You know, we are all immigrants here when you think about it.


I understand about all that too
but they found no reason for my miscarriage and knowing all that still didn't help the pain or grief of losing the babies after trying for so long, and everybody doesn't just get pregnant again right after. I didn't. I was just blessed that God gave them to me in a diffent way
I do not understand what you mean?
A bite itself itches, you can scratch an itch but you cannot itch an itch. I would think that is a backwoodsy type statement if you said it.
I just don't understand this
First, my husband would not dare do this to me or my kids. This man obviously has no respect for anybody. And that is what I would tell your daughter's friend's parents, along with if it keeps up you'll divorce him! And I'd tell him the same exact thing. But if mine did this just once, I can assure you it would not happen again, after I got through with him.
What most of you do not understand
being as you are young and are able to work from home, years ago, well gosh as early as the early 90s, if I wanted a job and I had to have to raise children (not a single mother, a divorced woman) we had to work outside the house, did not have a choice. I am so very glad my kids are not in the toddler, preteen or teen years. The ones I see now are awful. Just in one of those box stores last night and I heard screaming, could tell not just 1 but several kids and finally here comes the mothers pushing and pulling several different ages of children along and the mothers, I guess, thought it was really cute that their kids could scream and act out like they were doing, the mothers actually smiling. Thank goodness, no more rug rats to raise.
You still don't understand. (sm)
A narcicist is not capable of being a friend. Divorcing him will be an insult to him and he will want to prove it is all your fault. Therefore you need a good lawyer to see if he can build a case to show that he is so bad for you and your children than he does not deserve visitation. You are going to need evidence, I'm sure.

Don't trust your own judgement the next time you are considering marriage - get a psychiatrist to evaluate any future husband for your own protection. You and your kids have been through enough, and I've read a lot of cases of women marrying the same type over and over again.
I understand

You have to feel that you've done everything possible to make your marriage work, so that if and when you decide to separate, it will be with the knowledge that there really isn't any other alternative for you.


The fact that your husband got excited about having a second chance is a good sign. Just don't let him slip back into his old ways. If he makes one demeaning remark to you, stop him cold in his tracks and tell him, "No more if you want this marriage to continue."


 Be firm, be steady, and good luck!


I understand

But look what happened during Prohibition. And look at the availability of illegal drugs. It's a nice thought, but I don't think it would work.


 


I don't really understand.............
I just know nothing would keep my mom from her grandchildren, even if she stopped speaking to her children and their spouses completely.
I think that is how I understand it, but
if someone else has them,(and how did they get them?) he (OJ) cannot just break-in to that person's room and take those items back. He should have notified the cops that this person had items belonging to him, stating the situation and go from there. I guess he thinks he is above the law after getting away with MURDER.
I'm not sure I understand what you

mean by associated, but it sounds like you did not pull the file from the disk into the transcription module.  I did take a look under settings and then the files tab, where it shows the types of files ExpressScribe plays and where you check the box/es of the file types you will be transcribing.  I did not see the one that you mentioned there, but just wanted to suggest that you could try converting the file using a program like GoldWave (free download) to something that is compatible.  I usually convert to .wma files, which have always played fine on either of my modules (Olympus and ES).


Hope that helps, and good luck! 


I understand....
I'm not telling everybody to not get it, just making sure they know all the side effects. I just tend to be overly cautious! :)
Hey, now I understand about no
respect by what you just wrote. You answered my question completely.
As I understand this...sm
these crosses were erected on PUBLIC land, not privately owned land. I can sure understand you being against roadside memorials though, in your situation, but this one is different, as it is public land and not hurting anybody..however, if it is violating some sort of state or city law, the laws should be adhered to, in my opinion.
I don't understand. Do you want to
leave him or stay with him. Sounds like you are miserable there. Maybe he was thinking the same thing and just afraid to be the first one to bring it up. If you are going to stay with him, then things have to change on BOTH sides.
I so understand, there too
It is good to hear someone with the same problem as me.  My daughter died 12 years ago and sometimes it just hits me real bad, a sound, a memory, a smell, and it all comes rushing back.  No one can understand unless they too have lost a child.  I feel for you.  This time of year is always so hard. 
I understand
Maybe he just wants more space and to get away from little brother - sounds like it's going to be a good situation for him - and probably his sister too..
I understand
I understand this, it is very frustrating, but it is also frustrating to have a child with asthma, who is 16 and very responsible, not be allowed to carry an inhaler with her at school, I had to appeal to the school board and get special permission, they gave in only after I, in no uncertain terms and with a not from an attorney, told them that if anything happened to her, they would be legally responsible. The kids are to leave inhalers in the office and if they need them, they are to contact the office - if you have an asthma attack, there is not time to go from one building to another and request your medication, sometimes I think the schools have no brains and they are in charge of our kids?
I understand
about the 14yr old. My DD just turned 15 and it takes about 30 minutes each morning before we find out if she is going to be 15, 5yrs old, or even 25yrs old on any given day. WHEW!!
Not really, because you don’t understand
He was NOT talking about women per se, he was saying YOUNG women under the age of 35. I did not vote, this is not a political board issue, it was merely about a talk show program that I felt was way off base. I am 65 and like I said, my female family members always worked (my grandmother in her 20s on) and my aunts, mother, etc. We never felt like a man or anyone else should take care of us, married or not. That is what I am saying. I only know of 1 female that I have ever heard say this. You might be from a younger group (like he was talking about) that feels someone should take care of them, ??
I understand
My parents divorced after 27 years of marriage.  I was so angry at my dad for leaving mom.  It was hard to see mother hurting like she was and dad not doing anything to fix it.  I agree with the poster below, the best thing is to forgive him.  You love them both and do want to see either one hurt (believe it or not dad is hurting too).  This new lady friend will either get tired of him or he will wake up and seeing that he is being used, then where will he be?  Please try not to be angry with your dad but, and I know that it is hard, to love him. 
OH, now I understand! :-)
Well, that can really put a damper on things.  Lots of other choices out there.  Good luck! 
I can understand
why her mom would think that. I'm sure it is not something that people would generally think of being done intentionally. (I use that term loosely as I don't think psych issues are intentional which this may be.) If she has been aware of it then it might be a good idea for you to try to talk to her mom about it. She could be very frustrated with it and who knows how many doctor's are familiar this such a disorder (or whatever might be going on with her). Maybe this could be a starting point for mom to get her some help. I hope it all works out. I will keep my fingers crossed! :)
I do understand.

I understand that you were trying to avoid litigation on this matter, but the bottom line is either you avoid it or you don't.  There is no in-between.  Did the hospital file your daughter's visit to your insurance already?  If so, what would you do with the $800 that the dog owner would give you?


I don't mean to be skeptical, but a very similar situation happened to my brother.  He has 2 dogs - family dogs, mind you - a golden retriever and a lab, both on the small side.  He had friends over and his friend's child was playing with the dog in my brother's house.  The dog got excited and jumped up on the child (who was about 7 years old), catching his claw on the child's lower lip.  It tore the skin, but nothing severe enough to require stitches or anything. 


My brother's friend immediately wanted to take the child to the hospital.  He even called from the hospital telling my brother about the treatment his child would need.  My brother was very empathetic and concerned over the child's condition.  Then the friend told him he would be getting the bill.  My brother did get the bill, but when he contacted the hospital to pay it, the hospital told him it was already paid by the insurance company.  My brother then contacted his friend, who said he could just make the check out to him and he would see to it that it got to the insurance.  Yeah, right.


People in this world are always looking for a way to get something for nothing.  I hope that's not the case here, and I apologize wholeheartedly if it isn't.  In any event, I hope your daughter heals without scars, emotionally or physically.  I have a feeling if you take this to court, your daughter will be reliving this nightmare for a long time to come.  I would be more concerned about getting the dog impounded than I would be about lining your pockets.


I don't understand why you had to ask that one . . . nm
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