Freedom of Speech--What has happened to it? sm
Posted By: Kathleen on 2008-01-14
In Reply to: Opinions about school suspension? - trose
According to the first amendment of our constitution, everyone has the right to speak freely. This was a *personal* blog and not on school property. As mentioned before, could perhaps speak to the parents and let the parents decide punishment, but I do not believe the school should have the right to suspend a child for voicing his/her *opinion*. If the child said that to the teacher's face, that would be different. A blog is really no different than writing a diary or perhaps even a book. Just because it is on line and available for everyone to see, does not change her right to say what she said. It is just an opinion and everybody is entitled to one. I would be more upset with the person who printed it out and showed it to the school teacher. Who made that person a *blod monitor*??? just my opinion -- entitled to it, just like every one else.
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the world isn't losing freedom of speech...
Just the Christians! Talk about anything except God, Jesus, Church, etc., and we're gonna pay and pay dearly for it, I am afraid! 
You misinterpret what freedom of speech means.
It means you are free to speak against the government on public property without fear of retribution.
You don't have a right to slam others and a blog is on private intellectual property, and probably not even that girl's own private website.
You can have your own opinions but you don't have a right to just throw them about carelessly and harm the reputation of others.
That's what I LOVE about America. Freedom of Religion, speech, etc. But sm
I have to say, if you are an atheist (I am a Christian, BTW), where is your moral "compass" (sorry for the pun) I was an atheist for many, many years (3/4 of my life spent without God or religion). In that time I was: Suicidal, desperate, a liar, a phony, had no direction in life, a slander and just about everything else worldly you could think of. I was selfish..must I go on?
Then, when I hit rock bottom I had no where to look but up. He was there (God). He placed me upon a rock and I've never looked back or down since. I can honestly say I no longer lie or think bad thoughts about other people. I have a clear direction for my life. I do follow Biblical principles and obey His laws. I have a moral compass and a value system I am so proud of. As an atheist there was no right or wrong in my life. Since I didn't fear God I did basically whatever I felt was good or right, even believe in abortion. I am being totally transparent with you, from one ex-atheist to another atheist.
How do you explain a radical life change such as myself? Where do you draw your line of morality from? God says abortion is wrong and so it's wrong. God says a gay lifestyle is an abomination, and so it is. Don't get mad at me, It's in His Word. He said it. Not me.
Anyways, I think that there is much to be said about living a good Christian lifestyle and following its beliefs. My life is in clear order now instead of chaos. I have a life-long goal - to make it to heaven and take those whom I love with me.
What a sad, sad life I led before God. Wow. Like the old saying goes, "I never want to go back to my old life." Good luck to you.
A shame this place is so catty. But that is freedom of speech for you.
People come here to be supported, but need to realize there are all kinds of opinions out there. When you place yourself on a public forum to be supported expect to be bashed. That is the way of the world unfortunately. Just learn to try to see who wants to help and who wants to hurt. All kinds of agendas here. Your instincts will tell you who is real and who are the trolls. To all who are well-meaning here and look for support,or provide constructive criticism hang in there. Just filter out the bad and take away from it what you will.
speech
Luckily I use Dictaphone EXText speech package and do all voice control and edits with the keyboard. I really want to wear heels by Christmas!!
Freedom first and most important
My husband has only danced with me ONCE during our entire (more than two-decade) marriage and that was under extreme pressure from his buddies (we were out with a group of friends, mostly couples).
I lost my identity for a long time but after YEARS of marriage I am starting to get it back. Baby steps, but little by little...
I loved my speech therapist.
I stuttered when I was a kid. I *loved* my speech therapist! Once I won a tiny stuffed penguin from an game in the grocery store. I just had to give it to her.
On my my last day of therapy she gave me a *huge* stuffed penguin! :)
In addition to a gift card or whatever you decide, have your son make a card for her. You could also write a letter to her supervisor about her work with your son.
Did you see the whole speech or just revel in the soundbite?
Nice tidy little speech but
if he hadn't got caught by the FBI he'd still be screwing around. What a jerk.
the "I'll kill myself" speech
Hello again! My dad did this too. Tried to run my mom off the road with his car by swerving in front of her car, threw all the christmas presents on the front lawn and cried like a baby!
I can get out my crystal ball for you....he will go back to his girlfriend. He obviously just prefers the food at your house. Hang in there!
i beg to differ. I wish i had freedom FROM religion
I get treated by a leper because I am athiest.
LOVE the freedom from other humans, but
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My freedom what I dinna realise was quite so nice until later.
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Haven't you heard? Freedom of religion isn't for...SM
Christians. It's for everyone else. Sure a Muslim can pray in this country anytime they want, heck you can worship satan himself or practice witchcraft, but a be a Christian and actually admit you are one, let alone pray or read your Bible in public... come on, are you serious? You know every Christian has a secret agenda. We're just proselytizing little brainwashed fools. We're not just praying quietly to ourselves -- we are praying God will send a lightening bolt and strike all the unbelievers. We Christians aren't just placing our Bibles on our desks to read during our breaks -- we HOPE to beat someone over the head with it at some point during the day.
Freedom of religion has been twisted by the liberal spin doctors. It only applies to to those who think like them.... ironic isn't it?
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." -- Lenny Bruce
Puhleez, everyone has freedom except for Christian, white, heterosexuals.
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When it happened before
about 5 years ago it was about 3 months after the birth of my first child. I have an 18 month old and she was born via C section. I had a pap smear about a month after my 18 month old was born and it was okay. Just the one in April has come back abnormal.
Oh boy! I'm really sorry that happened. SM
I don't blame you or your son for not inviting him to wedding. But perhaps, just perhaps, you should have. I have a feeling ex-hubby probably realized he made a huge mistake long ago and is sorry for it. He is probably now taking that anger out on you. If he continues, (gulp), try talking calmly to him and tell him you understand how he feels. If he has shown any atonement, see if your son would meet with him, briefly.
It takes a lot to show forgiveness. Be the better person.
That happened to me too.
I gave a HS gal money for her grad, never heard a thanks. Then I gave her $ when her baby was born a few weeks later. I thought well she doesn't write thank you notes apparently, but the next time I saw her at a picnic, she didn't even say thanks. I still think thanks are necessary when someone gives you a gift.
What ever happened with that?
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Happened to my mom . . .
she was a little devastated at the news when she read about pulmonary fibrosis, but turns out she didn't have it at all.
This happened to me before, too, SM
This happened to me once. I was taking a walk this time of year (late October) when a TON of blackbirds flew up. They landed on all the trees, telephone poles, etc. all around me. It was really creepy.
Even though you're having a warm day, they probably are getting ready to fly south.
Hey! Maybe something happened
to my husband when he went through Roswell, NM on a trip for work!! He didn't see any UFOs or aliens but plenty of ads. He sure has selective memory on many occasions! 
That happened to me
I had the same thing happen to me a few days after my surgery. Woke up to find blood on my sheets and then stood up and it just burst. I had a seroma in the area of the incision that had collected with blood and turned out to have an infection. I was on antibiotics for almost 4 months. It was very slow to heal, but this also happened to my nephew, and in speaking with the doctor this sometimes happens. It either drains spontaneously, as mine did, or they have to take the patient back to surgery to drain it and pack it, and they also have to be on antibiotics for an indefinite period of time. I am now one year out from the surgery and you can seen on the MRI where this occurred, and the bone graft is not healing as well in that area than it did in the other areas, but I am fine now. You SIL will be fine with time too, just have to closely watch this for evidence of an infection. As I said, it took me 4 months before it totally healed.
Happened to me sm
It has been many, many years since I was in elementary school and I still remember the mean things the teachers did and said to me. I really feel for you. Good luck!
what happened
I don't know why info was left out of OP. Many things don't make sense the way it printed. Anyway, I hope you get the basics.
This is exactly what happened with me
I did it for about 6 months or so. It was very time consuming scanning everything in, punching in the prices and quantities sometimes if it didn't have it in the system. It just wasn't worth it, and then I had the same software problems. Same answer.. keep trying. Same threatening letter. I also finally sent it back with great relief.
What happened with this...
I just slept more than 12 hours! What's up with that? My little boy was home sick yesterday and I took my afternoon nap when hubby came home and I just got up now! (3 a.m.). What's the deal? Anybody else ever do that? Missed 2 hours of my afternoon shift, though I can make the 2 hours up. Still, really that is kind of ridiculous... anybody else ever have this happen? When I woke up I did not know if it was day or night LOL.
Happened to me too
You know, I now do not have to wear any glasses to read at all or to type at the computer! I am in my 40s as well and I wondered why I had headaches while transcribing. I took my glasses off and I felt much better. Only time I wear my glasses is when I drive or if I need to see really far. Isn't that great! Finally something good about getting to be "mature." LOL. PS: Still can't find my glasses every morning though. My husband or son usually find them for me. Sad, but true.
I am so, so sorry that this happened to you. I really am. sm
I have a very best friend who says kind things about my husband and I don't know what I'd do if she were do to that to me or if my husband were to do that with me. Was that the demise of your marriage? Did you stay? Leave? Did she apologize??
OMG That happened to me too before! sm
I was feeling really bad, depressed, tired, defeated, you name it.
I normally don't even open/eat fortune cookies, but my daughter was trying to make me feel better, so she insisted that I open/read one. 'It will be a good fortune. It will make you feel better. Come on, please open one..' So I did and it was EMPTY!!!
We both laughed hysterically but it was still kind of depressing.... I said, 'See? I HAVE no fortune!!'
Guess you can look at it both ways, no fortune or everything you need ;-)
I know someone that happened to
She needed a liver transplant, got the liver and ended up with liver cancer from her new liver. We were all so happy that she got the transplant, but it ended sadly anyway.
Same happened to me....go get a
professional bra fitting. I did mine at Macy's (Nordstrom has someone too) and ended up buying 5 bras (Wacoal brand...spendy but worth it). The fitting wound up revealing not 36D but 34DD and even 32DD in some brands. I am so much more comfortable and no more wasted money on bras that sit in the lingerie drawer.
Yes, happened to me just now...
something trying to install, my Spy Sweeper blocked it, called it malware.
but it happened
Went to a psychologist with a problem - I am psychic and have struggled with this for most of my life. Well, after telling the psychologist this, she asked for a psychic reading - wanting to know about her upcoming marriage, whether she would be able to get pregnant right away (she is 41), if there were any impending problems going to happen, and on and on. I obliged at first (that's what I am used to doing) then I realized that she was going to want to be paid. I then told her that the session was over and that I wasn't going to pay for her services and that I wouldn't charge her for mine. Then about a month later, I got a bill. I promptly sent the bill back with my explanation that she had not serviced my needs, but had taken advantage of me as a patient - and that once again I would not be paying her $125 for 45 minute fee. She actually called the day she received the copy of her bill, a copy of my bill to her, and apologized for stepping out of line. I do have to applaud her for knowing that she was wrong, but could not refer anyone that I know to her in the future. At least she was honest. Anyone know where I can find a good therapist?
This is what happened to me
Times have really changed since I was in school but I remember this incident very well and what happened in this case. A classmate of mine had taken my homework on the way to school (can't remember why). I told my mom that she took my homework and I can remember my mom talking to the girls parents (we walked over to their house - she lived on the same street). My mom talked to her mom and told her what I had said. Her mother looked at her and asked her what happened. The girl looked at her mom and said "I didn't take her homework, I don't know what she's talking about". The mother turned back to my mom and said she didn't take it and my mom and I left. Luckly my mom believed me. I hope it works out for you. That's a lot of money and only right the girl should give it back, but in my experience parents always side with their kids whether they are right or wrong.
This also happened to my son
The friend "loaned" it to another friend, who broke it,evidently, before giving it back to the original friend. Same thing, a video game. Every time he approached the friend for awhile he got a vague excuse, and then he finally 'fessed up. Bottom line, chalk it up to experience and never loan out your stuff. He was in, I think 9th or 10th grade at the time. Nothing teaches quite like experience!
What happened to you....
that made you such a mean and nasty person? Really, what's your story? We would probably all like to hear how it is that you were elevated to your high horse. I'm sure that all of your relationships are above reproach and you get along with everyone perfectly, as evidenced by your interactions with this poster, who was merely venting her frustrations. Get a life!
Does anyone know what happened to the
wonderful guy on America's Got Talent who sang opera for his first audition and then last week sang There's A Place For Us? They brought back the acts from last week and announced who was going on to the next round, but he was not there this week and they did not mention him. I wonder if he dropped out? He was just wonderful.
This happened to me
I kept threatening my mom that I would move out if she didn't let me do what I wanted (I was 17). Finally one day my mom marched into my room with a suitcase and started to pack my bags. Really opened up my eyes quick. Sounds like your daughter is using that as a "threat" believing that you will back down and let her do what she wants if she "threatens" you with leaving. My mom's words to me were (as she was packing my bag)... "You want to leave so bad? You think you have it horrible here and I'm such a bad person cos I won't let you run around whereever you want, take my car whenever you want? Here let me help you". When I knew she wouldn't put up with the bull I was giving her I backed down. Mom told me its her house, her rules, you can go out with your friends, but as long as you live in this house you will do follow the rules. She wanted to know where I was because she loved me and wanted to know I was safe. That is what she told me. She said that when I turn 18 I will be of legal age and if I want to move out she will help me find a place that I can support myself on. But until then I had to respect her as much as she respected me. I had a curfue. Midnight on weekends, 11 pm on school nights. As for the drinking thing...its not okay...it is illegal. There are laws and they should be followed. Under age drinking is illegal, robbery is illegal, speeding is illegal, etc, etc. There are many things that are illegal and for good reason. I worked with a lady who told me how responsible and wonderful and mature her son is. At 16 they bought him whatever kind of car he wanted, let him do what he wanted. "He's such a good person and we trust him totally. He tells us he doesn't drink or party or "hang out". He's always at the library or his friends studying. She came in one Monday in tears. That weekend the police had brought him home from a "party" where there were no adults. He was drunk and the police were called in because there was underage drinking.
Happened to me too sm
I had trouble breathing and swallowing and the left side of my thyroid had grown pretty big. I had the left thyroid taken out. The surgery was no big deal. I was not in much pain either. My left thyroid was about 3 times the size it should have been, but it was not cancer. Don't worry.
This has happened before and ....sm
it is such a sad sad story. I am a pitbull owner. I will say these dogs are not for everyone. It takes a certain kind of owner to have these dogs and in the wrong hands they are dangerous. I am a dog lover. I love pits BUT there are mistakes people make such as having more than one pit of the same gender. I don't know the circumstances which led to this attack but I can say I do not believe the dogs attacked for no reason. Something can set them off. But a dog that is loved and is a stable well minded dog who loves the owner is not going to attack for no reason. Usually there are circumstances we don't know. The dogs could have got into a fight or simply a spat and he could have intervened and they might have attacked him in the heat of the moment. I would never have more than one at a time unless they were different genders. I will say again not a dog for everyone. Until we know the nature of the attack we can't judge.
It happened to me. (sm)
We had all sorts of vet bills from previous dogs, and then were hit with health bills of our own (both DH and I), and insurance that didn't turn out to be very good, and suddenly the reality was that we couldn't afford to care for our 2 dogs responsibly. We didn't have these dogs very long, but I'll be heartbroken if they aren't adopted.
Has This Ever Happened To Any Of You Here?
This was unreal...I had made a trip to the store for cat food (before I became cat food LOL!) and while slowing down behind a car that was turning, I got hit in the back. No real damage, just a scruff on the bumper of my Subaru Forester, and a bit of a blow to my ego, but the dang kid who hit me was texting her boyfriend while driving and obviously not paying attention to the road. She was only 19 years old! Holy cow!
I got out, she got out...still texting. She said, "Wait a minute," and continued texting. I couldn't believe it. I have that hands-free voice-activated cellphone setup in my Forester that DH set up for me, so I got back in and called the police department. If she hadn't been so rude, I might have let it go, but when she pulled that, I decided to teach her a lesson.
She was horrified to learn that I called the cops while she was texting. She actually yelled at me, saying, "My Dad's going to kill me! Why'd you do that? I didn't hurt your stupid car!" and on and on. I just stood there and looked at her.
The cop got there, threw the book at her: failure to yield, following too closely, texting while driving (it's a law here now -- you can't do that) and she has a nasty fine and her insurance is definitely going to go up. She was horrified.
Maybe she'll think twice before texting while driving again...before she causes real damage and people get hurt.
So that's my new pet peeve! Grrr! I'm going to find and buy that bumpersticker that says, "Hang up and drive!"
Has this ever happened to any of you?
Same happened to me..........
My mother is in a nursing home with dementia. She did never write a will. I do not live in the same city as my mother, my sister does. So my sister takes more care of my mother. Although my mother's retirement benefits cover all the expenses in the nursing home, my sister took all the money in my mother's bank account and put it into the purchase of an apartment for her and her boyfriend, without telling me. My mother told me before she was admitted to the mursing home that my sister and I should split the money that she had in the bank, 50/50, but my sister did not know that.
What shall I do now that all the money is invested in my sister's apartment?
I too have to turn the other cheek, so bad, so sad.
I'm sorry this happened, but you might
in a similar situation but different diagnosis (Tourette's). You might actually take advantage of the situation. Sometimes kids need to learn tolerance outside the home because they don't learn it at home. Maybe the kids need to understand exactly what ADHD is so they can begin to understand? You can talk to your child study team about this. Maybe they can arrange for some sort of presentation, or perhaps you might want to take a role in that. If he's classified and covered under IDEA and an IEP, you actually probably have a case against the school for her sharing that information, but you'd have to weigh that against possibly turning this into a positive situation and experience for your son. Kids often tease and bully over things they don't understand. It's natural and part of being a kid, but they should have some sense of tolerance for those who might appear or act "different."
I can also tell you, since your son is in the 6th grade, you might really want to start working on having him advocate for himself. He's getting up to that age where he will need to be able to do this to survive middle school and beyond. This would extend not only to his peers, but his teachers and administrators too. I can also tell you from experience that kids mature a LOT over the summer between 6th and 7th grade and hopefully this will help your son's situation going forward.
Good luck to you!! It's hard enough parenting the "normal" teenage, but add in one (or try 3) with disabilities and you've got your work cut out for you.
Yes - that happened to me with my first too (sm)
I went home weighing the same as I went in weighing! But!!!!! I lost 35 pounds in the first week after I sent home, all water weight!! My skin was loose on my feet and ankles for a week or two but it did go back to normal. I had watched sodium very closely but still had a lot of swelling. Don't worry, it will go away!
What happened
Why don't I remember any of these things being issues when I was a kid? The world seemed so different then.
Am I just looking through rose-colored glasses at my past?
Well, I do know there were STDs back then, but I never heard of AIDS then. Kids weren't shooting other kids and teachers. Drugs? I never saw them being dealt or used at school. Not then. There weren't locked security doors or metal detectors when I went to school.
We used to be able to go to the airport then and just stroll around, watching planes take off from the open observation decks. There was even a movie theater in our airport. Later, when I had my own kids, I still would take them to the airport, they loved watching the planes take off. I remember a flight I was on with my husband and my oldest son when he was just the only one and a little guy at that. They actually gave him a little packet on the plane that had crayons and a coloring book and a metal pilot-wings pin to wear. Oh-God-now that would be considered a deadly weapon.
It is such a shame how things are now. Kids face a tremendous amount of pressure and dangers in school.
When did the world take this sharp turn for the worst? Was it the proliferation of drugs? Now they are talking about legalizing marijuana. Not sure if that is a good thing. I guess there are many who would argue with me, but I just don't think it would be a good idea.
I just wouldn't want to be a kid today.
Happened to me all the time. sm
My son was very bad about "leaving" things. A lot of times the kid who takes it will tell the parent they "traded" with another friend, something else for it, or that it was given to them. I also had a child that visited every other weekend, and he would put my son's clothes on under his and walk out the door, clothes gone forever. Maybe it will show up.
I am so sorry you had to witness this and even more sorry obviously that it happened. (sm)
I cannot even imagine your pain. And it hits so close to home as you have a teenager. Praying for the poor person that was killed, the teen driver and your family also. Hugs too!
What happened in the first place??
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I'm sorry all that stuff happened to you, too, and
am more glad that you moved on as well! Thanks for bringing me perspective again. I have to run now -- off to the happy world of MTing.
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