Field trip to see lesbian wedding
Posted By: educational or not? on 2008-10-16
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First-graders in San Francisco took a field trip to City Hall to celebrate the marriage of their lesbian teacher on Friday, but opponents of same-sex marriage in the state say the field trip was an attempt to “indoctrinate” the students, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.
The field trip was suggested by a parent at the Creative Arts Charter School, and the school said the trip, where students tossed rose petals on their teacher and her wife as they left City Hall, was academically relevant.
"It really is what we call a teachable moment," said Liz Jaroslow, the school’s interim director, according to the newspaper. She said same-sex marriage had historic significance. "I think I'm well within the parameters."
California will vote on Nov. 4 on Proposition 8 which seeks to ban same-sex marriage in the state, and supporters of the measure say the field trip shows that allowing same-sex marriage will mean it’s taught to school children, the newspaper said.
"It's just utterly unreasonable that a public school field trip would be to a same-sex wedding," said Chip White, press secretary for the Yes on 8 campaign, told the Chronicle. "This is overt indoctrination of children who are too young to have an understanding of its purpose."
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Oh Boy! Field Trip! nm
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the field trip?
I dont know. I wrote that in response to a thread below that talked about it. I do know that in this day and age any time a Christian tries to speak out about their beliefs, we are condemned. If a Christian wants their rights upheld, we are told that we shouldnt try to shove our religion down others throats. We cannot pray in school if we want. They take God out of the pledge of allegience because it is offensive to others. Well taking him out is offensive to ME. Our country was founded on a basic belief in God. We were God fearing people and there was NOT tolerance for things that went against him. But we have had political correctness shoved down our throats for so long that what used to be wrong is now right. We have become desensitized to sin. But God did say that this would happen and that in the end days his followers would be treated this way in his name. So I guess that is fine with me. I will always stand up for my Saviour, Jesus Christ, and I will always try to tell people about what he did for them, no matter how bad of a reaction or treatment I get.
How much money would you give towards this field trip....sm
16-year-old comes in from school today and says the drama teacher has invited the 3rd and 4th year drama classes to go to New York in March for a week to see shows and tour the city. Supposedly the cost would be around $700, including airfare from Atlanta, lodging, meals, tickets to shows, etc. I asked what fundraisers were going to be held and she had no idea if any would be. Personally I don't see how they can do the trip to include meals, travel, hotels, shows, etc. for just $700 a person and am presuming that's going to be around the amount that would be proposed to the students to pay after fundraisers are done.
My daughter asked how much I'd contribute to the cause.
She doesn't work and doesn't drive (scared to learn so we don't push it - don't want her to drive if she doesn't want to).
She is a good student.
I told her first off that she would also need to get a job because we're not going to pay all of this ourselves and take away the money from the family vacation for next year (we do a family budget of $1000 for vacations and that's for 4 of us).
We're not rich but do put "x" amount of money into the savings account each month as we want to move to a different area in a couple of years.
So.... how much do you think we should require her to raise herself and how much should we pay? I was thinking that maybe to contribute $200 would be plenty generous and let her get a part-time job after school/weekends to raise the rest + spending money. Do you think I'm being a cheapskate for that or do you think it's a fair amount?
You need to send a wedding gift if you attend the wedding - sm
If possible you should drop it by the brides or grooms house, etc. so you don't have to take it to the wedding, and so they don't have to worry about transporting the gifts from the church or the reception. You should always send a wedding gift if you attend the wedding though.
This wedding, the wedding party will be releasing butterflies!
Apparently, you can buy live butterflies, individually packaged, that can be released after the ceremony. The bride and groom are 65 and 68 years old, for crying out loud and this is their second marriage. This wedding is the craziest thing I've ever seen!
Who cares if somebody is gay or lesbian..
I am neither and dont really care who is. If you dont agree with somebody's lifestyle move on. If you see something in a store you do not like move on. Nobody said you have to stand there and eyeball all the products just to see if there is something you disapprove of. Most stores are going to have something somebody doesnt like, so what. It is not up to us to judge what somebody else does. They are not looking for anyones approval just trying to live their lives.
Almost all men look at porn! They love lesbian pics
I reall wouldn't worry about it! It's a billion $ industry - paid for by men of all ages and walk of life. Even if the don't buy porn I guarantee they love looking at beatuiful women in the grocery store or at church!
Adult porn is legal. It's not criminal to look it - I don't see what that has to do with his job! Every model/actress has documentation of her dob and government issued ID on file with the producer. The FBI can inspect these records at any time. Look at any "big" soft porn site (hustler, playboy, penthouse) and click on 2257 diclaimer.
I really wouldn't worry about it. I disagree with the above poster that it ruins lives!!!
Men buy printed porn, call phone sex lines, and view porn on the net simply to get off. It has nothing to do with an addiction or ruining his life! Even what we think of "kinky" may simply be a harlmess fetish/fantasy. He may not want to admit to his wife that he likes wearing women's panties, or that he loves women in fish net stockings. So he buys a mag for $10 and spends $20 on phone sex line or a web cam girl and gets to live it for 15 minutes.
This is me but I would rather have my traveling husband or my son in college look at Hustler and call a phone sex line than sleep with a woman and catch something nasty! I wouldn't want to discuss it with them over breakfast, but I wouldn't worry about it! :)
Porn sites are high risk for viruses - I would be more concerned about getting good anti-virus software on his computer.
In a city with a large gay/lesbian population, gay -sm
marriage is an everyday issue. The kids hear both sides of it. They're not isolated in coccoons, and they watch TV and see the negative ads running right now. If they go to Sunday school, then they probably get fed a large dose of fear and intolerance there, as well.
I think it IS educational for a bunch of SF kids to go see a wedding, especially if it's their own teacher. They already know she's gay. And they already know she's are real human being that they probably all love.
What they get out of the experience is a very strong reason to question the hatred & bigotry surrounding the issue of who should be allowed to marry, and who should not.
I have to disagree. EVERY grocery store chain does NOT sell gay & lesbian material.
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Don't bother getting into this field
your not going to make any money working for a company. The only way to make money is to own a business, and just starting out can be very expensive.
There are many of us trying to get out of this field for various reasons - mainly the BS that companies give us.
Sally Field
I was just noticing Sally Field's hair on TV the other day - I think it looks good on her. . I kinda like longer hair - mine doesn't grow that much so I don't have as many options as some people.
You ask about 1 thing and others go off in left field
I have known this man for 33 years now- he was my friend before my husband. The person who talked about still waters running deep is right on with the kind of man my husband is. I know where he was born, where he has lived, his family and most of all I know his heart and what a heart! He is the most perfect man I think I have ever met- including my father and brother- kind, considerate, thoughful, prayful, hard-working. He brings me things home because "he was just thinking about me." I can reach him even at work 24/7. He does not drink, does not smoke, is respectful, loving, married late in life, no other wives, no other children. He is a thinker, a doer and the kind of man anyone would love to have. Most who know me tell me I am extremely lucky, even my 86-year-old aunt said she wished she had met him first- I would have had a run for my money! Here an older southern white woman saying he is right up at the top of her list for people she likes! She is an aunt I always went to for advice- looks like she is still right in her thoughts. To make an issue about my not knowing where he went to school or how much school is such a minute thing for me- I have riches untold just for him being in my life and I give thanks quite a bit to above.
I remember my dad embarrassing me on the field (sm)
This was a different era, I played in the late 70s and early 80s... and there was a lot of drinking in the stands! We lived very close to the ballpark and my dad would walk to my game with a cocktail. I didn't really think about the drinking part back then, but looking back now I realize that is what was happening. But I will never ever forget my dad running right onto the field and yelling and pushing the umpire. He embarrassed me many times. And yes the other kids noticed and it was brought up at school. And guess what? I played in high school and college and even in a semi-pro league and once I was in control of getting my own self to games I never even gave him a schedule because I'd rather he just not go to the games. I'm a coach now and I can kind of help the kids along with parents get out of hand, but there are certain parents I wish would get kicked out! Please just enjoy the game for what it is.. a time in your child's life he/she will never forget (good or bad). 
We are all in the same field - just get along for crying out loud!
Why such a division? The bottom line is that we all just want to communicate with people in the same field of work. This does not give anyone the right to slam the "other board" or certain people. Sounds like some of you just need to get a life.
Marching on the field at band camp ...sm
it was my freshman year of high school. One of the adult volunteers heard it on the radio, ran to the band director crying and insisted that he stop the practice because of the news.
Back in the 1970s my dad call me outside. Over the field in
front of our house was a large orange ball just sitting in the sky. A couple of neighbors came over and we watched it for over 30 mins, it just sat/hung there and then finally just disappeared. To this day we have no idea what it was.
Yes being in this field and/or having had chronic "mystery" health problems (sm)
You do quickly learn that physicians are only human and they don't know everything. We really have to take a lot of responsiblity for our own health and that of our family members who may not have the same knowledge. We do not know as much as physicians know about medicine, but we know more than they do about our own bodies and our family members and we just might have the insight they need to put together a diagnosis.
Good for you for writing to them!
I put *warning, graphic* in the subject field, but apparently it didn't show up. nm
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What is the MOST outrageous thing you've seen/heard while working in the medical field?
While working in an oncology office I had a heartbreaking conversation with a newly-widowed young mother of 2. Apparently healthy husband suddenly turned up with a brain tumor, which killed him pretty quickly. The life insurance company did their due diligence and investigated the case, since the policy was issued only weeks before the diagnosis; but the patient had NO indications of illness at the time, and the medical records basically proved the negative; he hadn't been to a doctor because he wasn't sick.
In the course of discussing the point with the claims examiner, the widow told him it wasn't about the money (although she was going to need it to raise her 2 kids by herself). She'd FAR rather have her husband back. The claims examiner said he'd far rather have the woman's husband back too...
... wait for it ...
... because if he were still alive, he'd still be paying premiums to the insurance company!
Yes, it really happened.
I suggested the widow contact the state insurance commissioner's office and report the guy. Even if what he said/did was not precisely illegal, it was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Bus trip
I should've stayed home today because I have diarrhea, and I don't see a bathroom on this bus.
How about another trip?
What does she like? Is she interested in history or politics? If so, your area is full of historical places that you could visit for a day, a weekend, or a week. What about visiting D.C.? How about a trip to Mount Rushmore? Or Niagara Falls - see it from both sides. Visit some of the old forts up there.
If you're north of NY, what about Lake George? Or, go the Jersey shore, the Maine shore - kayak in the ocean.
I'm sure you'll find some great way to celebrate. Let us know what you decide, please?
re: son's trip
HI Trose,
I just want to say that this opportunity just might be what God will use to show your son where He wants him in ministry or use it to call him to the mission field. I know it is hard to let him go especially after what happened, but remember this....God will not allow that boy to die before his time and God is in control of his life! If your son is a strong christian, like my 17 yr old son who also wants to be a missionary, then He has given his life to the Lord and he wants to serve Him. Do not get in the way of the Lord using your son....Trust Jesus...He will protect him and guide him and direct him in all his ways....He goes before Him and is his rear guard....you can't help but allow him to be used of the Lord. My son is going to Thailand on his spring break this year as he is also a senior and loves the Lord and wants to serve Him on the mission field somewhere. We love him and want him to do what the Lord is calling him to do. It is hard to let them go, but Jesus is in control!
God bless you and your son!
IN HIM
Jan
trip
don't forget passoports there and airpot security -- Maybe a US territory no passport no hassle
BON YOAGE
This trip has gone to the dogs! (nm)
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I would never put you on guilt trip for that
That little beast is a nervy ho!!!! The worst part of having kids is dealing with other kids and their parents. How DARE she do that? Use your computer? But I will say, this will be an ongoing war for eternity now with the mother.
A trip to Ireland? (see msg)
Just talked to a dear friend on the phone over my break, who just got back from a tour guided trip to Ireland. She and her husband went to celebrate 30 years of a wonderful marriage. She tells me one woman went alone and had a great time. They stayed in a castle overnight and met the keeper of the castle, a wonderful Irish Wolfhound named Oscar. The thought of doing this is exciting and yet somewhat scary and depressing at the same time. I am single and so tired of being along and doing nothing I could scream! I am tired of always being looked upon as the one who is ALONE. . . Comments, PLEASE!
dream trip
Been trying to get my mom to go with me to Ireland....she lost her DH last year....I'll keep trying! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQDPenBUC68
Vegas trip
Hey Hoku,
Well, give us all the dirt!!! Did you or did you not have a great time with your friend best friend in Vegas? Enquiring minds need to know!!!
Hey my hubby and I took a trip
to Williamsburg Virginia long time ago and went through Colonial Williamsburg, took a dinner cruise around the Navy ships in Norfolk, spent some time on Virginia Beach, went to a beautiful plantation! We have tons of pics but I have no idea where I put them all....geez I think that was like 20 years ago!
Just want to say my trip to Greece anything but fun
I would never go there again and would not tell anyone to do. The ugly American certainly was something I picked up on there, the people were obnoxious, really nasty to me- spent lots of $$$$ and sorry I ever visited.
sounds like a bad trip
The only time that ever happened to me was when I got some bad weed.
Trip to Vegas : ) Yipee!
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Planning an overnight bus trip to NYC...
bags after we check out of our hotel on the 2nd day? I don't want to have to carry my luggage around all day. Surely others have run into this problem. Anyone have any ideas?? Thanks a bunch!!!
Cedric's first trip to the dog park
We had no idea how Cedric would do at the dog park, but his play with Sasha in our own backyard has been quite boisterous, and I wanted him to try playing with younger dogs. We brought him in and all he wanted to do was smell the fragrances around the gate. He looked alarmed to see other dogs roaming around. We could not coax him away from the gate, and finally DH leashed him up and walked him all around the inside perimeter and ended up on the far side. At this point he started cautiously sniffing actual dogs, and before long he was willing to romp a little as long as it was just one dog at a time. He did a little running and was having a great time, even when just watching a big pack of dogs running. You could see how he was learning all about interacting with dogs and playing with balls. At the very end it occurred to him there were also people to meet, but it was getting dark and Sasha wanted to walk the park path, so we did that. Cedric liked that too, but at first when he saw the tennis players whacking stuff with rackets, it confused him.
Then we got some food and gave the dogs their tiny bites, which is always a treat for them.
When we got home, Cedric climbed all over DH to show his appreciation, and today he has been lying at his feet. Plus, he has a new appreciation for a tennis ball we have, and when he got up on the couch with me, he chewed on that instead of me.
A very good activity for Cedric.
Hoku/Vegas trip..see above..nm
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How would St. Lucia be for anniversary trip?
I have heard from a few people it is fabulous and worth every penny, but I wonder what anyone out there has heard. I really want a special and very memorable trip because this is our 25th anniversary. Are there any tips anyone can offer? Any insight anyone has would be much appreciated!
Two words from me....ROAD TRIP!!!! Yea!! nm
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Planning a trip to New York City and
was looking for suggestions on a nice hotel to stay in and what are some of the best sites to see. Will only be there for four days at the end of May and want to cram as much in as possible.
Okay, planning a trip to see some snow (first in 10 years). Here's what I need! sm
Where can I go just north of Atlanta, GA, to see a good amount of snow that isn't too far? I have no clue! I'm thinking around mid Dec. Want to take the kids. With or without hubby. I'm not looking to snow ski, just take them to see snow for the first time in their lives. NC? TN? I have no idea! 
Would this have made you mad - husband planning trip
My husband has a habit of making plans and then telling me where I am expected to be without discussing it with me first. This drives me crazy and I have asked him many times to stop. He also makes lots of plans for himself for weekend and sometimes 3 or 4 day trips and just e-mails me a note to put it on my calendar, without asking if I mind. He does this all the time.
Yesterday he came home from work and announced that "Joe and I are planning a family trip for this summer, so start saving your money." I said, oh is Joe your wife now?? Do you think you could ask me if I want to go there before you tell me to save my money?" So he got really angry and started yelling at me that I never understand anything. I told him I like to be treated as an equal in the marriage and that I would not plan a trip for him without discussing it with him. It is a HUGE trip, to California, and we live in NC. I would have been happy if he came home and suggested it to see what I thought..but I was angry that he planned it out that way. He wants us to go with a family that I have never met. My kids are elementary age and their kids are in high school. The two men would be in conferences all day so this other lady and her kids and me and my kids are expected to hang out together. He is very furious with me for not being receptive to this whole plan. Should I have not been mad?
I'm giving mine a trip to Vegas
NM
Filled up the Bounder for our first trip last week. It cost $897.52.
We will probably camping longer and routing very cautiously this year. No more spur-of-moment long-distance trips.
My round trip commute is 30 miles. I ride the bus every day.....
It is free to employees of the hospital I work for.
Make a trip to one of your larger nurseries and work with what's native to your area. Spireas are
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That seems to be debatable even in the medical field. Disease or not disease?
things that could lead to diabetes and hypertension are true, they are still diseases and could obviously occur with or without staying away from known causes.
But for you to come here and say alcholism is "NOT" a disease is a little extreme and maybe should have been accompanied by IMO? That is my opinion anyway.
LOL; were you at *my* wedding?
I think it took me almost a year to get them all out - but 100+ is a lot of handwritten thank yous! I know, no excuse ; )
The Wedding
Yes, you are just being petty. Obviously, you love your dad, but really ... What difference does it really make to YOUR life how much he paid for the ring, how much they spend on the wedding, etc.? Rejoice in your dad's happiness and grow up. You only go around once in this life. Let your dad enjoy his golden years. I say, "Good for him - go Daddy!"
Lilly
When is the wedding and where are
you staying?
wedding
Wedding is 05/17 at Mandalay Bay but we are staying at New York, New York - this is my first trip to Vegas and I'm pretty excited. . We are staying 3 nights.
Would you go to a wedding of
a step neice that you have not heard from for over 20 years? I am so against this, plus I have not talked to her mother or aunts for the same amount of time. I cannot afford to get something to wear with the paychecks I have been getting, giving a gift, etc. I think the only reason I was invited was for the gift. I am trying to get out of it but it is my stepfather's granddaughter and he has been very good to me so I would be doing it for him only. How could I get out of this without hurting my dad? It is this Friday and I have done absolutely nothing to get ready for it. Unfortunately, I already sent in the RSVP card for dinner.
Wedding
If it were me, I would just send a card with a small gift in it. This way you won't have to spend any money buying something to wear. You are probabably right about just wanting the gift.
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