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I taught my children to never use bad language (cuss), and they do not do it in front of me, but from what I am told, they do it when I am not around.  Now if they can not cuss when I am around (which is a lot), why cannot they stop cussing all together?  I did say d___ once when I was raising 2 teenage boys and at the end of my rope on what to do with them.  My mother said d___ once when I was a little girl, and I remember praying that she would not be struck down or sent to he__.  LOL

It is okay to disagree with any particular post, but unnecessary to use vulgar language. 

Both were borderline diabetic and had heavy heart disease and strokes in their families. My niece had it done and BS'd her way through it.  Easy to con a psychiatrist into thinking your life isn't worth living etc and then they fill out the paperwork for the insurance. 

I try not to use dirty words. I feel that it just shows that I have a limited vocabulary. (My kids hate that). However, there are times, that I fall back and say things I should not.

Today was one of those days. I said the "f" word. Well, actually, I didn't say the "f" word. I said I am "f" mad. Not fing mad just "f" (the letter) mad.

I always told my children that this is a word that should only be used in the most dire circumstance if at all.

My spouse and I feel that if you are immigrating into the US, you need to speak English. Of course as an MT I do not like my work being threatened by India (I previously worked in bank customer service, and my company there outsourced 3000 jobs to India and laid off all the US CSRs). My spouse grew up in Detroit which is now classified as a" dead city" with the highest unemployment rate and some of the lowest house values in the nation due to outsourcing of the auto companies to Mexico and many auto parts and steel are now made in Asia.

However, we may even learn Spanish. He is retraining in Nursery and Greenhouse Management and it just makes sense as that will help him manage the laborers.  if he ever owns his own biz, we will insist on legitimate papers for every worker.

You can transcribe between two languages from home, just like you do MT from home. Spanish does not pay as much as, say, Arabic (a language I strongly wanted to learn) but there is more demand for it and it is easier to learn for an English speaker (and if we all get lucky, our overseas Middle East involvement will cease and there will be no more need for transcription of Arabic to English. Somehow I don't think we will get that lucky).

What gets me is people who move here and still do not speak the language after 5 or 10 years!!!

I would not even visit another country as a TOURIST without studying the language for months ahead of time if there was not a lot of English spoken there, and I would study some of the indigenous language anyway. It's just a sign of respect.

I think it is going to be to our benefit to be bilingual but I don't see us ever not having at least some ambivalence about the people we speak it to (but I think we will meet some good people as well).

Who would want your rudeness around their children or good neighbors anyway?  Since you seem to be just a judgmental person, perhaps there is some utopia somewhere for the likes of folks like you....hmmmmm?  We wouldn't want you in the city nor the country as neighbors of our family, that's for sure, and WE DON'T IMBIBE...so there!

Rudeness and hate is taught in the home - now we know how it was for you.....poor thing....

Since language is "our thing" - and particularly ESL - I thought you'd like to get a head start on what to expect from future Chinese dictators.  Get a load of these Chinese-to-English learning blocks (I'll post this as an URL you can paste into your browser since some are reluctant to click on links):

http://peer-see.com/blog/chumble-spuzz/2006/07/09/

I suggest we practice by forming sentences, such as:  "The patient is a construction worker who was operating a navvy when a crustacea flew into the cab.  Mistaking it for a darning needle, he swatted at the crustacea and lost control of the navvy, which crashed.  Unfortunately, he was not wearing a safety armet at the time and was knocked unconscious..."

that's a real old-timey one and they still make it...I remember my grandfather used it....just go in and Google Yardley. Better yet, if you can find a real old barber ask what he's used on cutomers over the years...Good luck.  Cat