Dog owners - recognizing partial seizures
Posted By: Misha on 2007-04-22
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After losing Misha to a brain tumor, I decided to post this to help others with dogs (sorry cat lovers - I did not research cats). Seizures beginning when a dog is young are almost always due to epilepsy, and it is very treatable. Unfortunately, seizures that begin when a dog is 5 or older is almost always either a brain tumor or some sort of serious infection in the brain. Either way, recognizing it early will help you have the confidence to insist on early treatment for the comfort and health of your pet.
Everybody knows the signs of a tonic-clonic seizure, but subtler seizures can confuse even vets. Know the signs of even focal/partial seizures:
http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/CanineEpil.htm
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LOL - no, the rest were a partial
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As a landlord with rental property, tenants seem to "pay partial rent" or not pay at all sm
beginning around Nov or December (the holidays). Were they both laid off? Is there no income coming in? Even though I don't know the situation, I can guarantee you that the money was spent elsewhere and now they are paying the price. I'm sorry to have to say this.
My husband and I worked with a family on getting caught up and they were 2 months behind plus late fees (about 1,800) and it was right about this time last year. They had a great Christmas though!
I don't have an answer for you. I don't know if there is anyone who can help someone like your friend or my ex-tenants. Rent should be people's #1 priority and sadly, a lot of the times it just isn't.
My dog had seizures too,
He had them from around 10 weeks old and for the rest of his life, but not very often because my vet put him on phenobarbitol tabs. I had to give them to him twice a day, but it was worth it. He died two years or so later, but I think he ate something that killed him, it wasn't a seizure. My vet only observed him for 24 hours before putting him on the meds, he did bloodwork to make sure that was what was happening. Good luck, give your doggy a hug for me!!
Anybody with a dog with seizures?
Do they run tests to determine if it's indeed seizures or what? Katie, our springer, has been having what appears to be mild seizures. They only last a couple of seconds and she's not out of it when it happens. She's due for her shots so I'm gonna ask about it but thought someone here might have some experience.
Seizures have many causes
A dog I adopted from a local shelter, who had been a stray and was skeletally thin (14 pounds), had seizures which the vet said was probably due to malnutrition. In the beginning, the only thing he could keep down was baby food (ground meat). After a couple of weeks, I started mixing the baby food with regular dog food and soon he was able to handle a regular dog food diet. When he finally got to his normal weight, he was almost 40 pounds!
His seizures took the form of shaking, like some dogs do when they are frightened. Phenobarbital helped to keep them to a minimum, but he still had them. All we could do was hold him and talk soothingly to him until the seizure was over.
He was the sweetest dog....I miss him so much.
My in-laws have a dog who has seizures...
This dog seems to being having grand mal seizures because it urinates on itself and they last a least a minute. The dog has had this several times but they haven't taken him to the vet because of the cost involved. My mother-in-law gives him an aspirin and puts "cold packs" on him when he is seizing. I'm not sure why but she is a little strange. I would take the dog to a vet. They can probably do test to see if she is indeed having seizures. Good luck!
Seizures in dogs. sm
It really varies. My chihuahua sustained a brain injury at the age of 4 (baseball); and she started having seizures. They were terrible. They only lasted about 5 minutes but felt like hours. I finally got a vet to put her on phenobarbital and she never had another seizure the rest of her life. The vet said some dogs respond, others do not. As mentioned, she had brain injury and vet was skeptical, but it worked for us. Good luck.
Seizures in dogs. Anyone have experience with sm
this? My poor little Cocker-he's 1-1/2 has been having seizures for about the last 6 months. The first time was last summer, around June. He stiffened up, weak on one side, fell down, neck spasmed literally all the way to the side for probably less than a minute and then he was fine. We didn't see anymore for about 3 months and boom, another just like the first. Then he had a couple of staring spells. I called the vet and he said to just observe and see if it happened again. Well, all was well for another 2 months and then he had the shivering episodes, 2 in 3 weeks that I observed. He would fall down and shiver real bad, not know anyone, unable to walk and this lasted for about 1-2 minutes. Then he was fine. I called the vet again and he said to "observe" for now. Today, he had another just like the first only it lasted for close to 3-5 minutes and it took him about another 15 minutes before he totally came out of it and was able to walk. In all of these seizures, his pupils were just huge-as big as the iris itself. I'm going to call the vet back on Tuesday again. What I want to know is, I wonder if it would be wise if I firmly asked the vet to please put this poor dog on antiseizure medication even if he wants to just "observe" again? Do they grow out of this or does it get worse? He told me that he prefers to wait before using medication as they sometimes outgrow it, but I don't think it is going to happen. He doesn't bite and is not incontinent during these episodes. He doesn't bite his tongue either. They aren't the classic grand mal seizures. I had a dog when I was young who had the classic grand mal and these aren't like that. My concern, and this is what I told him, is how many seizures is the poor little guy having that we haven't seen? I mean, I'm with him all day, but he sleeps by himself at night (on the couch-he's so neglected) and then there is his playtime in the fenced in yard. Any suggestions? I'll check back later or you can email me. Thanks!
My poor old doggy had seizures
and died from one. He went to the vet that day and she put him on medication. I called her and told her he was having more seizures and she said to double his medication. That night, he had a seizure and did not come out of it and died staring at me. I felt so helpless that I could not do anything to help him. I loved him so much.
Now I have another doed that is only 2-1/2 and he is having seizures about 1 every 3 months. He gets very scared and I have to comfort him. He wines and gets under my feet, can't stand up, drools, shivers and goes stiff.
Update on my poochie with seizures sm
He had another last night right before I went to bed. Of course I couldn't sleep all night worrying about him. I called the vet promptly at 8 a.m. this morning and we are starting him on phenobarb 1/2 grain twice a day for starters. I sure hope this brings it under control. I felt so bad for the poor little guy. Otherwise today, he is great. Thanks for all the support. 
Seizures, aspirin and dog demise
Okay, here's my offering of a summary. In answer to the initial question, yes dogs can have seizures. I had a dog that had them for several years. Extremely scary, but they basically didn't harm him. He shook and was stiff for about a minute, then was fine afterwards. The vet didn't see a need to do testing, and I agreed, as he was already 9 or 10 years old at the time, and he lived another 5 years after that. (The dog, not the vet, ha!) Of course other owners and other vets might decide to do testing and such. As for the aspirin debate, I will now agree with the person who says aspirin can kill a dog. A dog given small doses of aspirin every day of its life will indeed die - most likely in anywhere between 13 and 17 years! Let's lighten up, everybody! 
Poor thing, with seizures and all.
Some cats don't care about mice. I have two. LIke I said in the other posting, one loves to catch mice. The other one? Well, I've seen a mouse literally run right past his nose and he just didn't care.
My husky Cara had seizures, she was never on medication though - sm
She only had them about every 18 months or so, granted I don't know if she had others when I was at work during the day, at night she slept in our bed with us. I believe the seizures contributed to the shortening her life though. She died days after her 8th birthday (cancer) in 2003. She never bit her tongue either, and the seizure was a few minutes and then after 15 or so minutes she started to get back to normal, but she would usually sleep for a long time after having a seizure. Since your dog's seizures seem to be getting worse I would opt for the medication. If you vet gives you a hard time then you might want to think about going to a different vet. Good luck.
My friend's cocker spaniel had seizures too. SM
The vet claimed it was due to emotional issues, seperation from her, if she traveled, etc. He lived to be 15, though. Is it unique to spaniels?
My daughter's cat also had seizures. It is very traumatic to watch it. She would call me up crying because the cat was seizing. The vet said rare in cats, but he put the cat on phenobarb, which daughter got from regular drug store. Very funny seeing prescription from Walgreens with Sgt. Pepper on it.
I reallly assume it is more traumatic to watch, than actually a danger to pet, because daughter's cat is 17.
Seizures are fairly common in Springers.
But what is the age of onset? Usually if age of onset is after 5 years, it is something other than epilepsy. But in a very young dog, it probably is epilepsy. A friend of mine has a Australian shepherd (named Major) that was having multiple grand mal seizures a day. Medicine helped, but what made a big difference for her was changing the dog's food to Canidae. Of course it's not in place of medication, but the dog went from multiple seizures a day before medication to 1 seizure a week with medication (may have had to add a second med, not sure), but then changing to Canidae improved him to 1 seizure in 6 months! She also has a Pembroke corgi (named Minor) who alerts them to each seizure before it hits their Australian shepherd.
She named her dogs Major and Minor - what a nut. :oD
Cat owners, I need some ideas....sm
My daughter has 4 cats that live downstairs with her. One of the cats has become sensitive to the food they're all eating and we need to feed her different food from the rest. Any ideas how to keep her out of the other cats foods? This cat can't be brought upstairs because my cat that is upstairs dislikes her strongly and beats her up whenever she has tried coming upstairs. Thanks for any suggestions you may have!
No lease - have been here thru 2 owners, - sm
and am the only person left in the building who is still on month-to-month. Also, I never did sign any agreements with current management company - I still have my old lease from the original owners from back in 1990!
This site is now being run by new owners
The old owner of this site started her own board. There was a lot of posts about this before the list changed hands. It was also down for a few days.
Anyone else VW new beetle owners?
My husband just traded in my Miata (a birthday gift 2 years ago) for a VW Beetle for me. I loved the Miata, but I couldn't take my daughter in it since she's still in a booster and it only seats 2. What fun is that? I had been wanting a beetle since the new ones had come out and I can't believe he actually got me one! I love it. It's so fun to drive. Anyone else own one and how do you like it so far?
The owners who are not responsible are ...sm
the problem. I would be mad too if I went out and was approached by a pit bull who growled at me, and I own a pitbull. He should be kept in his owners yard or home. No dog, pit or otherwise, should be allowed to roam around the neighborhood.
I fully understand you being furious. I would be too.
Any bunny rabbit pet owners out there? sm
Our bunny has a malocclused jaw and therefore she has a front tooth that continues to grow, having to be trimmed about once a month. The vet says there's really nothing we can do to prevent this other than continue to encourage the rabbit to eat foods that would have her using her front tooth. Have you encountered this and if so, did you find something that helped slow down the growth? Thank you!
DH and I are first time cat owners as of Christmas!
DH and I are first time cat owners as of Christmas! We love our Sophie, she is a great cat. Since we are new to this, I'm looking for some advise.
We are leaving on vacation on Feb 23rd for Ireland and I'm just wanting to make sure I have everything in place for Sophie. Please let me know if I'm missing anything.
MIL will visit every other day (maybe everyday!) for litter box cleanings and playtime. I'm going to leave out 2 litter boxes.
I'll leave out lots of food and water, MIL will refill.
Leave the TV or radio on for some noise.
She is around 2 years old so she is still quite playfull. She has lots of toys laying around.
So am I missing anything? I just don't want her to freak out, but I think she will be ok with the MIL visits.
Thanks!
That is true but the owners who hire them
should be held accountable. The American roofing/contruction co owners that do not want to pay their share of tax or pay a descent wage to a legal worker should be held accountable. The immigrants working illegal are just trying to make a living. (Yes it's stealing and wrong and I do not approve. Especially when they bring their whole families here.) The owners of these company are the real cheats though. They buy big vans and pick them up and drop them off. It's horrible wages are so low for hourly workers now. :(
Any VW owners know price of a radiator & fan? (sm)
My car broke down this afternoon! I heard a loud noise like I had run over something, pulled over and saw all the coolant and water pouring from my radiator. The fan broke and a blade went into the radiator. I pulled inrto the nearest repair shop (lucky for me one was really close) and they gave me an estimate of $1200!!!! My husband had it towed to a mechanic he uses, but I am curious since my car is a VW how much should it cost to get this fixed??
once again OWNERS, if only we could ask the cats, I think the response would be different, NM
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For the pet owners: Is pet insurance worth getting?
I know there are a lot of pet owners on the Gab board so I thought I would ask. I am wondering if pet insurance is worth getting? I have one 7-year-old kitty, a 2-year-old Pomeranian, and a 4-year-old chihuahua mix. Princess, my pom, broke her foot a couple of months ago by jumping about two feet to the concrete from my lap. I usually don't take her outside, and I think she just landed wrong. It cost me about $700 get her to the vet and have a splint put on and luckily it healed and she didn't need pins. I am really thinking about it because I know pets can get pretty expensive when you have to keep taking them to the vet. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me.
They are very sweet dogs... it's all about the owners
That's what I think... ANY dog can become aggressive which is what I wish people would understand. Before we got our two current dogs, my boyfriend and I completely fell in love with a pitbull at the humane society. 3 days until I got my house, someone snatched her first. She was the most adoring, sweet dog I have ever encountered (besides the girl that I own now). But then one day we encountered a pitbull at the dog park, who had kind of "rough looking" owners, and my male dog went up to sniff the pit and kinda get playful, and i heard the guy snicker under his breath "you dont want to do that dog". like, telling my dog he doesn't want to mess with his. So I am a firm believer that it is ownership. You get the pit as a puppy and love it and cherish it and it and socialize it... or you leave it, hurt it, yell at it... it's gonna become what it knows...
To pit bull owners and defenders:
Two weeks ago in my city, an elderly demented man was found dead at home by his daughter's boyfriend when he returned home from work. Autopsy confirmed that his death was caused by his daughter's and her boyfriend's 3 pit bulls. I'm sure this lady loved her dear father and believed the dogs were companions to him as he was home alone during the day.
I just can't understand the loyalty to this breed. Why take chances when the outcome can be deadly? This woman will be blaming herself for the rest of her life.
All dogs bite, but pit bulls don't stop until they have killed.
Small dog owners Please Read my warning
Yesterday, a lady was driving down our hill with her little doxie in the front seat of the van. I don't think the dog was even a year old yet. Anyway, she sideswiped a telephone pole which put her out of control, her airbags went off, and she couldn't see with all that white powder flying around, and she wound up in a drainage ditch. When the airbags went off, they struck her dog and killed him. Although our neighbor is a nurse and tried CPR, the poor thing had broken ribs which probably punctured his lungs.
So, what I'm saying is if you're going to take your dog for rides, please put them in the back seat, preferably with doggie seat belts, not the front seat. I could barely sleep last night over this. I feel so bad for the poor dog. It didn't have to happen. The lady was so upset over it and feeling so guilty, it took us over 2 hours to get her calmed down.
Business owners are usually private citizens
and as such have right of refusal - I sure did when we had our own business. If you see a potential problem you want to get it back out that door pronto. Maybe the owner knew his clientele would not stand for OJ sitting in the restaurant and being served, etc., and believe that is his choice, his call. If he has other patrons of different races, religions, etc., can't see he would be concerned about a law suit. This is not even a religious matter or sexual discrimination - which is protected by law - OJ is hated still by many - his problem.
Yeah, poisoned by the owners, the sun and heat - sm
what total i*d*i*o*t*s - don't they know an autopsy will prove them wrong. I hope they owners both get locked up and heavily fined to boot. My own dogs are out a lot but I am home and when it is too hot they are in. Neither has ever had heatstroke. They have plenty of shade (they go under the deck sometimes and lay in the dirt, nice and cool down there) and water when they are outside. My neighbor has a boxer and has to be real careful with her dog, she has had one attack of heatstroke already this summer. Luckily she knows what to do as it happened once last summer; but it comes on very quick with boxers since they have such short snouts. Let us know what happens to the owners.
It was the OWNERS' fault for allowing the dog to run loose.
The fact that you didn't see him and ran over him was an accident. That accident wouldn't have occurred if those people had been responsible dog owners and kept him in a securely fenced yard.
Dear Owners of Aggressive Pit Bull:
I've already called animal control on you once and reported him for cornering, and then trying to bite me.
Well guess what. I bought mace. Not the wimpy dog-park spray, either. This is law-enforcement grade. It's the real deal.
The next time that sorry, un-neutered son-of-a-biotch comes anywhere near me, he's getting not just a warning squirt, he's getting the entire bottle in his face, maybe enough to close up his throat and kill him. I sure hope it does.
I live in Louisville and restaurant owners all over town are
applauding him for having done it. The restaurant he went to right after that was just around the corner and the owner there said he didn't have guts to not serve him.
Just moved to new house. Previous owners had dogs that
used the basement for a bathroom! It smells to high heaven! Anyone know what I can wash the concrete floor with? Would bleach solution help with the smell without causing a chemical reaction with the concrete? Local building store employees just gave me a blank look. TYIA.
Carfax relies on owners of the cars to report problems
We bought a "perfect" car, ྙ Olds (in 2000) that only had 45,000 miles on it. Loved that car but it was a flood car.The engine was still good but everything power plus the frame gave out in 5 years. Wouldn't pass inspection and had to junk it.
Nothing on Carfax had any of this info. So I'll never pay for a Carfax report again.
he's not a loser because he has seizures, he's a loser because
we have to pay an exterminator to keep away the mice. He doesn't like to be petted. He pees and poops on things when he has seizures. I'm not saying he is a loser because he has seizures but because he pees and poops on things and the other things I mentioned. If he was your cat, I'm sure you would just kick him to the curb.
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