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Do any of you breed dogs?

Posted By: Silly Girl on 2008-10-21
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My husband and I are debating this so I want the "real scoop"?  How much money do you make after you consider shots, care, etc.  How much work is it.  How much space do you need.  I want to know everything!




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Shelties or Australian Sheep Dogs are great family dogs. rm
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These dogs appear to be puppy mill producing dogs.
The two females, which I thought were older, appear to be just worn out/depleted. Their teeth are those of a 3-5 year old dog. So, I do believe they have had litters each cycle and are suffering from malnourishment.

Funny thing, yesterday, they were covered with mud (it rained and they were digging) and this morning, I look out and see they have all been grooming as they are clean.

Called Love of Animals who has committed to spaying/neutering the animals, giving them their shots, flea repellant and showing them at Pets Mart on Sundays. In a few months, there will be a regional dog show at the local college where on average 150 dogs are adopted out and she asked that I keep them until then.
Which I will...And a girl saw the ad for the Lost Pets and is looking for a replacement for her Shi Tzu she lost a year ago and will come by tomorrow morning.
breed? come on
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What breed?
Ears can be a source of odor. They need to be dried thoroughly after a bath with a drying ear solution. Floppy ears can have more problems than prick ears since they hold moisture.

Dogs with facial folds get food caught in there. These have to be wiped out daily with a moist cloth. Oily coated breeds have more odor than others. Labs and some other water retrieving breeds have the oily coats. Teeth can cause odors. If using a doggy enzyme toothpaste once a week doesn't improve it, probably time for a dental cleaning. This is expensive because the vet needs to do labs before giving anesthesia, and the labs nearly double the cost in older animals because they check more levels (going from memory). The most surprising odor causer to me was my CJ seemed to have odor from stomach acid reflux. Daily Pepcid AC fixed it.
A food with corn can cause stinky feet ("Frito-feet").

Did you remember to wash his dog bed or blankets or Febreze his favorite chair? Odors could be transferring back to him. One loose dog I brought home from the park one time was stinky, so I bathed him before taking him to the SPCA. After he was dry I picked up his collar and it was horribly stinky. Yuck!

Just some possibilities.


?what breed of dog? some
breeds are known for hearing sensitivity (border collies and healers). does your dog seem to be bothered by sirens or train horns? you could try cotton balls in their ears, maybe. just a thought.
It is not the breed.
Yes, Bostons do have a lot of energy, but just like any breed, they can be properly trained. I have a Boston and she is the best little dog. She does like to jump around a lot and loves affection, but all I have to do is tell her to sit and she will. If I tell her to, she will even stay in that spot until I tell her she can get up.

If they didn't even know if their dog was in heat or not, they don't sound like the greatest pet owners, and my bet is that these dogs have never had an ounce of proper training.

Don't blame the breed. They can be great dogs. I would definitely get another one in the future.
It is not the breed.
Yes, Bostons do have a lot of energy, but just like any breed, they can be properly trained. I have a Boston and she is the best little dog. She does like to jump around a lot and loves affection, but all I have to do is tell her to sit and she will. If I tell her to, she will even stay in that spot until I tell her she can get up.

If they didn't even know if their dog was in heat or not, they don't sound like the greatest pet owners, and my bet is that these dogs have never had an ounce of proper training.

Don't blame the breed. They can be great dogs. I would definitely get another one in the future.
Very true. Even if you like a certain breed, as I do (sm)
with my "Persian-habit", there are specific breed rescues out there for just about any breed you can imagine. I've adopted all my Persians as adult cats (who are often overlooked) from a local Persian rescue. Fancy bloodlines do not protect a cat from abuse, and sometimes I think it adds to the problem. Many of this rescues kitties come from kitten-mills that produce 'way too many kittens. Some grow up in squalid conditions (as my former Persian did... his breeder went to jail, and he was confiscated and sent to a rescue.) Sometimes even beautiful show-cats who have won in competition will end up dumped in the pound if they cannot be sold as pets afterward (again the problem with being an adult cat), or are no longer able to breed. How sad that a kitty can win a championship in the show ring, which certainly isn't any fun for them, with all the caging, baths and grooming, etc.)only to be dumped when the owner has no more use for them. My present kitty was purchased as a kitten by someone for (gasp- $3500 !! - oy VAY!)... and a year later she took her to a vet to be destroyed because she had a litter-box aversion problem. Can you believe that? Just thru chance, that vet had a client who worked for a rescue, and she came and saved the kitty, which is how I ended up with her. Granted, she was exasperating at first, as she would ONLY pee & poo on the FLOOR, not the litter box. But with lots of TLC, some time, (and crate-training like a dog), she is now a happy user of TWO litter boxes. (One for the pee, and one for the poo! haha).

You're right about the good dog vs bad dog & breeding comment, too. Look at pit bulls.... some of the nicest dogs I ever knew have been pits, but the type of person who usually is drawn to this breed often knows zip about socializing dogs, or else wants them as watchdogs, and of course, you read about what happens when things go wrong with these dogs every day. Where I live you now have to post a pretty hefty bond in order to be able to keep one within city limits, so of course in the poorer sections of town, that forces people to give them up. The pounds are OVERFLOWING with pits because they are now considered such a liability to own.

Too bad people don't have to attend some sort of a class, and pass a test, before being allowed to own an animal of ANY kind! And unless one has a license as a LEGIITIMATE breeder, I think spaying & neutering of ALL other pets should be mandatory.
I wish they would let the breed just phase out
that being the pit bull. There was an unprovoked attack on a man in our city a few weeks ago but 3 pits. He said glad not a child- could not have survived. He wound up in the hospital. I do not like them being put down per se, just wish each spayed and/or neutured and that would take care of everything. Too vicious to be around me, even the so called "sweet" ones.
I have my dogs on it, and yes all my past dogs but 2 have died -sm
from cancer. But I had 2 schipperkes on Frontline for years and one died at 13 from cancer, the other at 16 just from old age/kidney failure. My last husky was 8 when she died from cancer, but I have had one die at 2 (unknown causes), and another at 9.5 from liver cancer (she actually made a nice recovery but succumbed about 6 months later), but huskies don't tend to live past 10 unfortunately. I have had purebreeds and mutts, and with or w/o Frontline/Advantage they have all died from cancer. I suppose it is possible that it causes it, but if you live long enough, cancer will most likely be your cause of death, anything and everything causes cancer anymore. I hate fleas and ticks and we have lots of them, so the dogs get the Frontline except in the cold winter months. They are 6 and 3 and both doing quite well.
And dogs don't bite right? Love my dogs but I
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my dogs are basically indoor dogs sm
but have a doggie door to go in and out as they please. Sometimes our Jack Russell gets excited and barks inside the house. My DH grabs is belt and snaps it and the loud noise shuts her up right away. I am not trying to frighten our dog, but many times just saying knock it off doesn't work.
Maybe, but then you'll also breed mosquitoes.
We can't win!
They are so adorable! I love this breed so much, but I SM
know people who have one and she ran across the yard and got the neighbor by the foot after he got out of his car to go into his house!  They are feisty little dogs and cute as a button. I still love them. I used to live next door to a Chihuahua who would not let me out of my car, and when I got out it bit my foot. Our Chi is afraid of her own shadow and very sweet. The most she does at strangers is bark!  Just like people, I guess . . .  each one is different.
Ugh, I knew I butchered the breed name!
Kim, please accept my apologies for that.  My internet is saying connected for mere minutes at a time and I wanted to get her picture up as quickly as I could and with speed sometimes comes mistakes.  Forgive me! 
Again, it can happen with any breed. Look at pitbulls..
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Should we destroy a whole breed based ...sm
on what a few do wrong? Look at the Dalmation attacks, Alaskan Malamutes, Pomeranians, etc. Should we destroy these breeds too?


Senator Kennedy did not breed him -
Senator Kennedy's breeder of his two dogs bred him and when he could not stay with his original home, Senator Kennedy first took him in and then gave him to the girls.
I adore that breed, too. I was talking to breeders SM
at a dog show about them. I think they are just beautiful!
What an adorable breed picture. They will give you all s/m
the love you handle and then some. I wish every animal in the world was treated so beautifully. Good love this little angel's heart.
Lucky, you! I am sorry I got the spelling of this gorgeous breed SM

wrong. I study dog breeds, know every one in the dog shows, etc. and then made that fo-pa.  Not intentional, I assure you.  They had the Pembroke and Cardigan. You would have loved it.


 


Yes. You must make a point to see this next year. It is so adorable and a change of pace for those of us who don't watch the football game. They have them on what looks like a football field with lots of toys and they are all running around, and they play a sound track in the bakground that sounds like fans cherring in the crowd! 


You can read people's breed reviews at this site.
http://www.hoflin.com/BR/BreedReviewsIndex
Years ago had a mixed breed (1/2 pit) and he was allergic to the carpet! sm
We tried everything and finally had to put in outside. My husband built this beautiful kennel for him. He actually thrived outside! I missed having him to snuggle with, but seeing how his health improved outside it was the best for him.
Because you breed out of wedlock then that makes you a responsible person?
Sorry, not where I come from. I am so glad I did not bring home (well years ago it just WAS NOT done) children. If a female got pregnant, sent away to an unwed mother home, most of the time the child given up for adoption. When I was growing up you did not pop out babies right and left without a husband. I have had more than my share of responsibility, been able to stand on my own 2 feet and provide really well for my family. I made the right decision for me and do not regret and have never looked back on my decisions.
Good for you! This one looks a little like the breed of dog, Brussels Griffon in the face!!! NM
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Where dogs came from (sm)
A newly discovered chapter in the Book of Genesis has provided the answer to 'Where do pets come from?'

Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you any more. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you love us.'

And God said, I will create a companion for you that will be with you and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so that you will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves.'

And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve.
And it was a good animal.
And God was pleased.

And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged his tail.
And Adam said, 'Lord, I have already named all the animals in the Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal.'

And God said, ' I have created this new animal to be a reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own name, and you will call him DOG.'

And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved them.

And they were comforted.

And God was pleased.

And Dog was content and wagged his tail.

After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and said, 'Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride. They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps too well.'

And God said, I will create for them a companion who will be with them and who will see them as they are. The companion will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are not always worthy of adoration.'

And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.

And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat's eyes, they were reminded that they were not the supreme beings.

And Adam and Eve learned humility.

And they were greatly improved.

And God was pleased

And Dog was happy.


And Cat didn't give a hoot one way or the other.
dogs
I love that - this year, my niece's huge yellow Lab grabbed a pie off the dessert table. Needless to say, nephew put the dog outside. We all thought it was funny - niece did not!
dogs
What breed are your dogs? The darker one looks like she has Boxer markings, but I have never seen one like the blond. Reminds me of a G.S. Beautiful dogs, no matter what they are!!
Oh and he's not alone. He has 2 other dogs with him.
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Outside dogs (sm)
Outside we have a Boykin Spaniel (you can get these sometimes from rescue centers, Google if interested) and we have a mixed breed - Basenji and probably lab. Both have plenty of fur but not too much and love to be outdoors.
hot dogs....
kosher and nonkosher to cover all your bases.

I only like ketchup but you know there are those that want everything, so ketchup, mustard, mayo(yuck), relish, onions, chili?

hot dogs and brats...cover all your bases.....same on toppings...EVERYTHING!

If you have the space, fries are great when it's cooler weather.

Can/bottled drinks probably the best best. Less space, more drink for the buck anyway.


dogs

Uggg.  I feel for you.  At least the dog isn't being abused but I understand your frustration.


BTW you get the little icon thingies when you click "post reply to this message".  They should be right underneath the message box and just click on the ones you want.  Don't click "quick reply" because then they don't pop up. 


dogs
as a child, we had a rat terrior, irish setter and german shepherd - and daddy always had beagles.

as an adult, we have had a german shepherd, beagle, toy fox terrior, cocker spaniel, collie, border collie and right now we have a corgi and a chocolate lab.
Dogs
Since I was a little kid, Dad has always had dogs.  I remember we had a black lab, a brittney spaniel, a toy poodle (wretched dog), a German short-hair, and 2 mutts.  He and Mom now have another black lab.  My sheltie, Casey, just died this summer.  Now I have 4 cats.  The last one (a calico kitten) got dropped off (we live on a farm and it happens all the time!) the week after my dog died and just suckered me in. 
I have two dogs
They love me and are all over me every chance they get. Most dogs love me. The dog next door will look at my kitchen window and if she sees me, she will wag her tail and bark until I come out and pet her.

I am horribly afraid of German Shepherds. I got bit near my eye by one. My BIL has 2 of these dogs and they can tell I don't like them. But they just avoid me.

Now my friend who lives about a mile from me has a small dog and that dog hates me with a passion. It gets so upset and snarly when it even hears my van. I refuse to go in her house until that thing is caged. Am I bad person? I don't think so. Funny thing, I drive past her house to pick my girls up from school. They have a couch in front of a big window and every day when it is time for me to go by, that dog gets up on the couch and when I drive by it freaks.
I have 3 dogs
My newest addition is a dauchshound puppy.  I got her back in March (or maybe April - can't remember).  Anyway, she is  now 9 months old and all puppy.  She is relentless with my other 2 dogs, especially my little Maltese who is 7 years old.  Just runs around her, nipping at her tail, and racing away.  I know she's playing but it's NOT a game to my little white furball.  And she doesn't quit!  So, when you have had this situation, how do you stop it?  How do I get this puppy to understand that she needs to stop this behavior?    Other then this annoying habit of hers, she's a wonderful, funny, loving little girl!
Dogs!!
do you have a picture of yours? My dogs are the sweetest things, but they are DEFINITELY barkers if they hear anything outside and I agree with you, people can break in, but if they hear those dogs barkin, they are PROBABLY gonna turn right around and go somewhere else!!!
dogs
Boston terriors are great with kids and a great family dog.
Are the dogs okay if they don't see each other?

Years ago when I lived in Detroit and we had chain link fences, there was a nylon type of material that you could get to weave in and out of the chain links in the fence.  Sort of like the stuff that the old style folding outdoor chairs were made of.  It gave you privacy in terms of not being able to see on the other side, but you could still hear everything.  Would the dogs still go nuts if they could hear and smell each other, but not see each other?


The nylon in the fence is old school and not necessarily pretty, but it might work.


I have 2 dogs........... sm
and my Chow, Butch, will not let "Old Yeller" eat. He chases him off. Butch is an older dog and rather grumpy to Old Yeller, so my son has started bringing Old Yeller inside the utility room so he can get a decent meal. I don't keep food out at all times because my dogs are outside dogs, but if you have a self-feeder or keep food out all the time, sounds like the distance between the bowls is a good idea.
We also take the dogs with us sometimes - sm
depends on where we are going and what we are doing. We do a lot of camping and boating, so this one place we go to and rent a cabin allows animals so we do take them there sometimes. Usually it is just easier to leave them home, plus downsized our truck from a Suburban to a Trailblazer so unless we put everything in the boat, there is no room in the car/truck for the dogs, lab and extra-large husky. (or we only take the lab, but I feel bad when we do that!)
I am doing all I can for the dogs....sm
I am using my gas to go back and forth to their house to make sure the dogs are eating and get to go out, etc. I love dogs but I have 2 inside to care for, 1 out in a fenced in yard that I out of the goodness of my heart because I am a succer for dogs rescued and I put her in my back fenced in yard and take care of her. Then I have my husbands beagles I take care of while he is gone out of town working. I have approximately 13 dogs to care for on a daily basis. Only 3 of them are mine. I think I am a pretty nice person to take the responsibility of cleaning the beagles pens everyday and feeding them and giving them attention. FIve of them belong to my husband and five belong to a friend of his. I do all this for all these dogs because I love them. With caring for so many dogs already I think it is kind of rude of them to even ask me to take there 2 dogs too and take care of them. When they asked I did show reluctance and said I dont know. Then finally I said I guess. I think they should board their dogs at the vets or pay a sitter, etc. I have 2 dogs in the house. I have never tried to pawn my dogs off on other people. If I knew someone genuinely did not mind it would be different but they had to see the hesitancy I had to begin with. They do this all the time. They are frequently asking for somone to keep their dogs. Well about a year ago I told them I would no longer be able to keep their 2 dogs because I have 2 in the house and 2 more is too many inside. So then they started getting her brother and his wife to keep them. I guess they got tired of it and stopped keeping them cause then they started boarding them. Well that costs money so they are back to asking me. Well I will not keep them anymore for 2 reasons.
1. The dogs are not well behaved dogs. They act like wild animals in the house.
2. One of them is not properly house trained and will pee in the floor or poop.
3. I have 2 dogs already and 4 in the house is too much.

As for my dog not being neutered he is in his own house. I didn't ask them to bring their dogs over here and my husband specifically asked is she in heat. My female is spayed. If they are going to be leaving the dog frequently they need to have her spayed so they don't have this problem. As for me I will not keep them anymore even if she was spayed simply because the dogs are like wild animals.
Great dogs...sm
The little weiners are one of the best dogs.  Great personalities.  The only thing negative is when puppies they chew on everything!  We had just remodeling our house when we got a puppy.  I lost a new comforter and a specially made quilt in one room, two new pillows in another and some chewed up table legs and rocker.  She also ate her bed!  They do outgrow this though. Unfortunately, we lost "Shelly" to a hit and run while my son was in the hospital.  I do plan to get another one some day.
No hot dogs either! Nope.
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All about dogs and aspirin
Aspirin has the same problems in dogs that it has in people. It can cause gastrointestinal upsets and ulcers if the GI signs are ignored. It can cause renal failure if overdosed. It causes an increase in clotting time. This usually isn't a serious side effect but it does occur. Despite these shortcomings it has a lot of beneficial effects and it is inexpensive. The currently recommended dosage of aspirin varies a little from publication to publication but it is between 5 and 15mg/lb every 12 hours. Since there is a range I usually pick the middle of it and go for about 10mg/lb every 12 hours. This works well and seems to be pretty safe. That works out to an aspirin tablet per 32 pounds of body weight twice a day. I have to admit that I rarely advise giving more than 2 aspirin twice a day despite the fact that some big dogs could obviously take more based on the per pound calculation.
Seizures in dogs. sm
It really varies.  My chihuahua sustained a brain injury at the age of 4 (baseball); and she started having seizures.  They were terrible.  They only lasted about 5 minutes but felt like hours.  I finally got a vet to put her on phenobarbital and she never had another seizure the rest of her life.  The vet said some dogs respond, others do not.  As mentioned, she had brain injury and vet was skeptical, but it worked for us.  Good luck.
I don't believe this. Dogs are not *wild*--sm
animals with denning instincts. they were meant to be every bit as free as humans were. As far as I am concerned, ALL animals, not just dogs, are *furry people* with a whole lot more loyalty, compassion, understanding of nature, and caring than a lot of people I know. They should be treated with respect, just as much as humans, because they were *created* just as much as humans were. If a human cannot or will not take the time to train the animal where it wants it to *do his business*, then that human should not have an animal as a pet at all. You would not treat your child this way, so why treat a pet this way? JMO.
dogs are better than people in most
instances. I have 3 and would never cage or kennel them. They are like my children and live where ever they choose to in the house. They have a specific place in the back yard for their "business" and have not had any accidents in the house because my husband and I have trained them properly. They are my best friends.
RATHER SHOP WITH DOGS

I am one of those st**pid women with little dogs and they are better company than someone like you, I am sure. They go where we go including nice hotels where they are welcome.  No one has ever complained.  They are clean and groomed, don't bark, and are gentle and loving.  Stores cater to me because I spend money there.  Are you?  Or, are you just walking around looking?  Maybe they don't cater to you because of your not so nice comments to their good customers.


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I would rather shop with dogs
than screaming kids!
dogs are domesticated

mammals.  snakes are reptiles.  I would not include the last in your series of comparing.