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Debbie Rowe's rights are intact -

Posted By: Amanda on 2009-06-27
In Reply to: Heard someone saying the best person - Lynn

A judge ruled that there was no psychological evaluation done of her when she gave the kids to Michael and dropped the custody case, so even though she gave up custody, her parental rights were not legally severed.

She will be the one to benefit from this situation unless somebody else pays her off again.


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Debbie Rowe's rights are intact -
A judge ruled that there was no psychological evaluation done of her when she gave the kids to Michael and dropped the custody case, so even though she gave up custody, her parental rights were not legally severed.

She will be the one to benefit from this situation unless somebody else pays her off again.
I still think that Debbie Rowe should just go away
I don't know her or her motives (besides money) or anything. All I say is if she cares about these kids and what is in their best interest she should just go away. My understanding (again I do not know this for certain), but my understanding is that she was paid for a service. She got her money for what she did. Is she now running out of money that she's starting up something else. Am sure like Octomom she probably wants a million dollars for her story. If she wants DNA or whatever on these kids and it comes out that MJ was not their father it could destroy their lives. They know him as "daddy". They should let it be. If it comes out they are not really his kids their lives would be turned upside down and the Jackson family could cast the kids aside. What good could possibly come from this. I still say let lying dogs sleep. I'm sick of the media coverage, the people who tried to destroy him now acting like they were his best friends and cared about him, and I'm sick of the conspiracy theorists (sp?) doing the same thing they did when Elvis died by saying he staged the whole thing, it didn't look like him, the times are wrong, this was wrong, that was wrong and claiming this has so many holes like swiss cheese. The guy died. He was a great performer and had a wonderful talent for music and what a voice. But he was human, his poor frail body wore out and now he's gone and people need to deal with it.
I still think that Debbie Rowe should just go away
I don't know her or her motives (besides money) or anything. All I say is if she cares about these kids and what is in their best interest she should just go away. My understanding (again I do not know this for certain), but my understanding is that she was paid for a service. She got her money for what she did. Is she now running out of money that she's starting up something else. Am sure like Octomom she probably wants a million dollars for her story. If she wants DNA or whatever on these kids and it comes out that MJ was not their father it could destroy their lives. They know him as "daddy". They should let it be. If it comes out they are not really his kids their lives would be turned upside down and the Jackson family could cast the kids aside. What good could possibly come from this. I still say let lying dogs sleep. I'm sick of the media coverage, the people who tried to destroy him now acting like they were his best friends and cared about him, and I'm sick of the conspiracy theorists (sp?) doing the same thing they did when Elvis died by saying he staged the whole thing, it didn't look like him, the times are wrong, this was wrong, that was wrong and claiming this has so many holes like swiss cheese. The guy died. He was a great performer and had a wonderful talent for music and what a voice. But he was human, his poor frail body wore out and now he's gone and people need to deal with it.
Well, you might ask the mother, Debbie Rowe,
about this then. After I posted this yesterday heard last night she said she wanted one to prove that he was not the father. Debbie Rowe still is their next of kin, regardless of what the Jackson family might want.
The funny thing about Debbie Rowe --

I wonder if she realizes that if she proves that those kids are not really Michael's then she is blowing her chance at any more money.  I bet if she gets them back then the Jackson's would tie up any money they have in trust in court for a long time to keep her from getting any of it.  I dont think she would ever have enough money to fight them.


Her best chance at the money, which is obviuosly what she cares about, is to keep her mouth shut and leave the children where they belong --- with their family!!!


The funny thing about Debbie Rowe --

I wonder if she realizes that if she proves that those kids are not really Michael's then she is blowing her chance at any more money.  I bet if she gets them back then the Jackson's would tie up any money they have in trust in court for a long time to keep her from getting any of it.  I dont think she would ever have enough money to fight them.


Her best chance at the money, which is obviuosly what she cares about, is to keep her mouth shut and leave the children where they belong --- with their family!!!


BREAKING NEWS- Debbie Rowe says Michael is NOT
the father of her children. She has now given an interview today and this is the latest on this. It has been on Fox News tonight. Remember about the talk below where I said needed DNA for those kids?? Guess I might have been right when I said did not ever think they belonged to MJ.
Mike Rowe--although I don't find him...
to be all that hot. Did you know he used to be an opera singer?
for the love of Mike Rowe?
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TV crush -- Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs is So Hot!!!
Oh man, he is so funny and manly and smart.  That show is so loaded with sexual innuendo.  Can't get enough.  Think he is a fine specimen of man... yummy yummy.
Mike Rowe and Daniel Craig are on my "list" too!! LOL! nm
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nobody has taken your rights away...sm
however, I personally think you are wrong to think abortion is okay and that you don't believe in god. but that is none of my business either. I am not stopping you from doing what you want to do. But even though you do not believe in god, you must still have a conscience and know that killing another being is wrong. JMO. may god have mercy on your soul.
My rights

Okay, so the school takes the kids on a field trip to see the gay marriage of their teacher and this is a because the school considers it a learning experience?  And so, too bad to those people whose religion this goes against.  But if I were a teacher or ran a school and it was decided that we would be taking our children on a field trip to say a Christian church or maybe Israel where Jesus lived and died, you know totally as a learning experience and to teach them the history of a man that many people, even those who are not Christians, believed to have lived, there would be world wide riots!  Parents would be spitting mad, the school would be sued, it would be national news and I would be fired.  It would be againts people's beliefs and I would be "shoving my religion down their throats" and blah blah blah. 


Being gay is a sin.  I didn't come up with that God Our Father and Creator made that one up.  The Bible speaks VERY plainly about it many times.  Tolerance does NOT mean agreement.  Tolerance is NOT accepting something that is wrong.  Saying that it is wrong is NOT intolerance.  I dont think that someone who is gay should be shunned, beaten, publically humiliated.  That is tolerance. 


If you already have visitation rights. sm
Sounds like her rights to see her son are totally controlled by the dad.
You can but no one else can? Exercise those rights
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Gays have been trying to get rights
since the 1950's. Gays only want to be treated and have the same rights as heterosexuals. You have such hatred for gays that I feel sorry for you but then again, it is fear and ignorance that people such as yourself feel this way. There is a high suicide rate of gay children because of the bullying. We are no different than you and I can assure you we do not shove any type of agenda down your throats. I am sure you are the type that if your son or daughter came out to you, you would disown them. Now you tell me what kind of a parent is that? We pay our bills, taxes, own houses, etc., so what is so different from you and from me in daily living? So sad there are still homophobes this day and age.
I think I agree with you - first amendment rights.

Personally I would come down hard on the kid at home, but if I had to I would get ACLU to defend his right to say it.


What about 1st amend. rights of mom who posted
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I am exercising my first amendment rights!!
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Where are the rights of the child being told she has
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We are not talking about denying their rights. If anything

they would actually be getting more rights than heterosexual students because they would be getting a school designed for them.  Plenty of heterosexual high schoolers are harrassed and bullied and nowhere is there a school dedicated to serving these kids.  They are referred to counselors and support groups designed to teach them how to cope.  It's segregation pure and simple, only now it's a minority group segrating itself from society.  And let's not forget this isn't a private school where the homosexual students pay tuition, this is a public, state funded school.  The cost of running this "special" school comes out of the pockets of all taxpayers.  How is that fair?  If they want their own school, it should be a private school that requires them and their families pay a tuition. 


What about Gay Rights and FOCA (abortion) then?
hmmmm?

We can legalize Gays and Abortion but prostitution, pot, marijuana etc. (much lesser evils) should be "prosecuted heavily", oh come on .... It's all about "feeling good". If gays 'feel good' with each other and teenage moms 'feel good' to abort then what's your issue with pot or marijuana users? Don't they have a right to feel good with all the economic benefits for government?
He gave up his parental rights; end of story.
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It is in the not-so-distant past that women had very few rights! (sm)
My mother was sexually abused by her stepfather - it was the 60s - she went to the police and they told her to go home. She ran away from home and they took her back. She told family members and they told her to keep it quiet. She eventually somehow pressed charges and took him to court...and the judge told her to go home and forget about it.
Actually I have a very good tenants' rights BOOK - sm
from Nolo Law. Mentions everything but the kitchen sink - EXCEPT renovation evictions. STILL, now what am I supposed to do when applying for a new apartment? All the applications ask if you've been evicted, and yet having lived here so long, none of my previous landlords is even ALIVE. Do they have to tell a prospective landlord I've been kicked out, even if it wasn't for doing anything wrong (except for living here too long)?
The father has as much rights as the mother to make decisions....sm
about the child, gifts, etc. I know you want what is best for the child but it's really between your daughter and ex-son-in-law to discuss this. Even if your daughter doesn't want this, there's nothing she can do about it other than educate the child about how much candy to eat at once is appropriate.
read a Tenants Rights brochure for your answer
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Gays march for their rights to be involved with their long-time partners
health care should a drastic decision be made. It is usually a family member...even though we are the ones who take care of our partners when they are sick or dying. We fight for the right not to be thrown out of a shared house by the partner's parents. We want to honor our partner's wishes when they die as we are the ones who have spent years with them - not the family. These are just a few examples.

As far as your comment that we influence young people - that is absurd. All we want is to live our life and as pxmt said, be able to walk down the street without abusive comments, being assaulted, ridiculed, etc.

The school system is not segregating gay children - they are making it "gay friendly and teaching tolerance". Suicide is very high in gay children because of the parents who teach their children that it is evil and it is okay to bash a gay child. These schools are just trying to save the lives of young children.

As far as your comment that Christian's homes and churches are burned, sorry but I cannot recall one incident that I have read or saw on the news. Temples yes. As far as being assaulted for your beliefs, could it be because you stand in front of abortion clinics and gun down the doctors and nurses that come out or go into the clinic? Could it be that you bully the 15 and 16-year-olds who have been raped and want an abortion?

Sorry to say this, at least we (gays) are not violent and just want to be left alone.