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Clothesline versus dryer -- sm

Posted By: pennypincher on 2009-03-12
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Do you really save that much on the electric bill by hanging out your clothes? 


DH doesn't think so, but I'm inclined to disagree with him.  If you do save on your electric bill, how much? 




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clothesline
I use my clothesline as long as the weather cooperates. There is nothing better than the smell of laundry dried outside, especially sheets. Can't wait for spring.

BTW, I have a clothesline in the basement for during the winter when the wood stove is fired up. Works great.
Clothesline
I use 1 in the nice weather too and I live in a houseful of guys (dh and 2 sons) and no one says anything.  I tell them it cuts down on the electricity bill and they say cool.  Its also good for the environment.
I'll have to let you know. We're installing a clothesline this year.
We always hung clothes when I was growing up. Everyone had their laundry outside, and it was so nice. I've lived in this house for 25 years and don't even have a clothesline! Everything here is gas... dryer, stove, hot water, heat. Gas is cheaper, we use it for everything, so I still need to save. We have no A/C, so that's a help. We also need a new hot water heater, and we're going to a tankless system. I'm hoping that using the dryer less and having a tankless system will make a dent.

I doubt I'll hang towels outside, however. They're much softer when they come out of the dryer.
I don't even own a dryer...sm
and have not had one for about five years since it broke.  I hang my clothes outside in the summer and in the basement in front of a wood stove in the winter.  Surprisingly, I don't miss my dryer at all.  Tacky?  It doesn't bother me!  And my clothes last forever (maybe too long).  LOL. 
Blow dryer
My daughter had lice once and with really thick hair it took me a long-time to get rid of it, until a doctor gave me a RX that we had to let set for 1 hour, then take the blow dryer outside and dry hair for an hour or longer.  the heat from the blow dryer and the medicine finally killed them all within 2 days.
Use a blow dryer
I put the hair dryer on cool and "dust" the artificial flower arrangements with it. Takes just a few seconds and if you do it every week or so, you never have to wash them.

Otherwise, I would dip them in a sink of Woolite or similar cold water wash. Some people put them in a sack filled with salt and shake it, because the salt is abrasive enough to get rid of the dirt but not hurt the arrangement.
Dryer balls
They really work. I just use a very minimal amount of fabric softener to kill the suds in the rinse cycle.

No offense, but the dryer sheet story kind of sounds like an urban myth.
Maybe dryer sheets between the
pages? That's a lot of dryer sheets.

When I was recently car shopping, looking at used cars, there was only one I sat in and instantly got out of due to that smell. They should Febreze a car before they show it to prospective buyers.
Hair Dryer
I have never tried this myself, but I have read that if you use a hair dryer on a low setting, about 6 to 8 inches from the ear, for about 10 to 15 minutes, it may make the earache better.

Hope this helps and your little one is feeling better soon!
Wow, my dryer is about 20 years old I think- sm
came with house (1998), house built in 1988, would have to go digging through the receipts they left us but it is at least 12 or more years old I am sure. Extra large capacity Whirlpool washer and dryer, love them but I am sure expensive to run. Our electric was $80 when we first moved here and I hung the clothes out all the time in the summer and that was with the AC too. But that was before 2 kids and 5-6 loads a week too. If I could shave $50 a month off I'd be very happy, going to try to. I run the dryer way too much though, dry the clothes forget to get them out, run it for 15 mins to get all the wrinkles out, etc. Sometimes do that 2 or 3 times as I tend to forget about them in the dryer, even with the buzzer.
My dryer is around 15 years old.

It won't let me forget the clothes. It buzzes, then runs a couple seconds, then buzzes again. It keeps it up until I finally take the clothes out. Can get aggravating when I'm up to my elbows in something else.


I forget about the washer though.


We got a FREE gas dryer off Craigslist (sm)
My husband looks at it regularly. These people were giving away a working gas dryer, all he had to do was meet them to pick it up. That was a year ago and we're still using it! I have a friend who got a free doghouse off Craigslist. You really can get great deals.
bounce dryer sheets?
But, I don't know what it does to the paint...maybe someone else will chime in or maybe Google will have the answer :o)
No washer/dryer at my apt. building, and laundromat
it's far away & I'd have to burn valuable gasoline to drive there. Thank goodness I work at home and can wear clothing for several days before washing. I wash them in the bathtub and hang them on the fence to dry.
I have an older dryer (10 yrs) and dry about 4 loads a week sm
(small family). Last summer I began drying 3 out of 4 on the line. My electric bill dropped by half, from about $75 or 80 per month to around 40. (Small house, small utilities.)

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/dryers.html - Interesting link about estimating the cost / savings benefits.
I'll take outside clothes line any day over dryer

I've been beggin hubby to put a clothes line in since the 80s. The natural air drying  smell is nothing to be compared with an inside dryer. Alas, he doesn't see my point. He thinks I don't have time to hang clothes out....but I did in the 70s and now there's only 2 of us. Once and done, not 3 loads in the dryer.


Downey fabric softener should help with the stiffness? I wouldn't know since I have to use a dryer, and even DH likes rough towels, not soft,  so why does he complain about outside lines? Don't ask me ....oh, wiat! Could it be because I pay the utilities? LOL


I'll take outside clothes line any day over dryer

I've been beggin hubby to put a clothes line in since the 80s. The natural air drying  smell is nothing to be compared with an inside dryer. Alas, he doesn't see my point. He thinks I don't have time to hang clothes out....but I did in the 70s and now there's only 2 of us. Once and done, not 3 loads in the dryer.


Downey fabric softener should help with the stiffness? I wouldn't know since I have to use a dryer, and even DH likes rough towels, not soft,  so why does he complain about outside lines? Don't ask me ....oh, wait! Could it be because I pay the utilities? LOL


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spanking versus ISS

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How long is this ISS.  For five tardies..it sure as heck shouldn't be a whole day or even a half day..it should be something realistic.  Yes, I do know what it is like to have to deal with school principals who are jerks, just remember that this is your child and not theirs and that it is your job to look out for them.


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Btw, five tardies in 4 or 5 months is really not that terrible IMO.  That is about one a month.  My goodness, we all assumed it was cause she talks anyone think that maybe the girl had to use the bathroom during her time of the month.  I would also find out when she was tardy and how tardy.  My son was given a tardy cause the bus was late getting him to school and I called and let them know that that is not acceptable in my book.  They had given several kids on his bus tardies and after several phone calls and a check with the bus company, the tardies were removed.  Yes, if my son had been chatting or something,  I would not have bothered to call, I would have just remind him that tardiness of his own making is not acceptable.


 


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Doctors


   (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.


   (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.


   (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.


Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services



Now think about this:



Guns


  (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)


  (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.


  (C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner .000188.



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FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.



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Slow-Mohs versus regular Mohs
I am a patient, not a doctor, but my understanding is this:

A regular Mohs procedure takes many hours but is finished the same day you start the procedure. The doctor cuts out the visible tumor, then makes either vertical or horizontal slices from what she has removed. Those slices are made into frozen slides (not literally frozen) and analyzed by the doctor while the patient waits in the office. This allows the doctor to "map" the tumor. If a part of a slide doesn't show a clear (tumor-free) margin, the patient is called back in to a little more tissue removed. Again, that tissue is made into frozen slides and the doctor looks for clear margins. The patient will keep being called back in to have more removed until all the slides show clear margins. This can take many hours, but once the margins are clear, the wound is closed and that is the end of it.

Slow-Mohs is when the wound is left open for a day or two (and up to a week) while the slides are analyzed. That is why it is called "slow" (the time you spend in the office on the first day of surgery should be about the same as if you had regular Mohs). The reason it takes so much longer to analyze the slow-Mohs slides is because the doctor uses paraffin-embedded slides instead of frozen slides. Paraffin-embedded slides are of much higher quality than frozen (my doctor said it's the difference between a huge HD TV and an old black and white TV with bunny-ear antennas).

For most of the malignant tumors treated by Mohs, frozen slides (and thus regular Mohs) is sufficient. But there are some types of tumors that have long, finger-like extensions (like roots) that are hard to see on frozen slides. If they are removed with regular Mohs than these roots could be missed and lead to a recurrance of the tumor. So that is when Slow-Mohs is usually used.

Sometimes Slow-Mohs is called Modified Mohs, but I have also heard Modified Mohs refer to a regular Mohs procedure with other variations. So if a doctor says they are going to do Modified Mohs, ask them exactly what they mean by that.

You should also ask if your doctor will be using vertical (bread-loafing) slices, or horizontal slices. I think vertical is the norm, but horizontal is better for tumors with irregular boarders.

Also, sometimes after doing regular Mohs with frozen slides, the doctor will take a final slice for paraffin-embedded slides to be analyzed just in case. This final paraffin-embedded slide isn't the same as Slow-Mohs. In the rare instance that the final slide comes back with a positive margin, the patient will be brought back in for another Mohs procedure, but usually regular Mohs is a one-day affair.

Overall, Mohs and Slow-Mohs are a great alternative to a wide surgical excision that could result in greater (and unnessesary) tissue loss. I think it is widely accepted for skin cancers, but more controvertial in other cancers like sarcomas.

I have a very rare sarcoma called Dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans (DFSP) and while most of the literature I read says Mohs is at least equal to or better than wide excision (but with less tissue loss), I have seen 2 sarcoma specialists that are strongly opposed to Mohs for DFSP. However, their reasons are that vertical slices and frozen slides are inadequate for DFSP. However, it doesn't seem like they are aware of the horizontal slicing options and the ability to do paraffin-embedded slides in Slow-Mohs (and doctors don't respond well to any implication that there is something they don't know). So I am trying to arm myself with as much knowledge as possible...and I suggest you do the same if you have one of the more controversial tumors.

Here is a good (technical) article about Mohs and DFSP that describes the different types of Mohs:
"Modified Mohs Micrographic Surgery in the Therapy of
Dermatofibrosarcoma Protuberans: Analysis of 22 Patients" http://www.annalssurgicaloncology.org/cgi/reprint/11/4/438