Can i add my 2 cents worth? In a mall I saw this young woman (sm)
Posted By: Southerngirl on 2007-11-27
In Reply to: What's the strangest thing you ever saw? My two are (sm) - NCMT
wearing a black plastic garbage bag! She had on black tights, a black turtleneck and the garbage bag with a hole cut out for her head and arms. She had it cinched up around her waist with a really wide black belt!!
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Well, here's my two cents worth (sm)
I am sorry you are going through this. I would find it very hard to believe that both of your sisters would lie about this. I would be angry with my sister who first told me though also. If she didn't tell you back then when it really mattered, why bring it up now? Did you just seem to happy in your life? She should have told you way back then, and since she didn't, she shouold have just kept her mouth shut at this point. As for him, he has to be lying. Both of your sisters would not make something like this up, I don't think. I think the only hope is to tell him that you really do believe them and he needs to confess and tell you the truth. If it is something he did way back then but would never do now, he needs to say that. He needs to apologize to you. I think that is the only way you will be able to move ahead. If he is willing to fess up and if he tells you that he has not done this any more over the years and if you are happy with him, then I would forgive and forget. If he refuses to confess, I might believe he had more to hide than what you already know. I think you should go to a marriage counselor if he will not voluntarily admit what he did.
Woman make 72 cents for every $1 a man does so of course, sm
Couple that with the enormous numbers of men who don't pay child support and you have a real mess.
Did YOU marry thinking you'd get divorced and have kids to raise alone with little or no financial help? I didn't.
I know a young woman with six children who have six different fathers and just
announced she is pregnant with her 7th. She is 28, does not work, has never worked. One of the fathers has been in prison and she is breaking up with the father of her one on the way so she can reconcile with him because he's getting out of prison. She is on welfare, food stamps, any and all government assistance available to her.
Now, I realize that these day with the unemployment rate rising, there are families that need help and I think it is wonderful that this help is available to them. Sixteen years ago when I was pregnant with my son, I had a part time job at a bank with no insurance and my husband at that time was out of work, so I got on Medicaid and food stamps. However, I felt ashamed that I had to do this and my goal was to get off of assistance as soon as I possibly could.
Nowadays, it seems there are way too many irresponsible, unmotivated, and downright lazy people out there shamelessly living off the government teat. I think it is totally irresponsible to have 6 or 7 kids. The only people who can afford to feed a family of 8 are those in a higher tax bracket than I. And the truth is the people who have very large families usually cannot afford it.
About "not worth remembering" - do your friends feel they are worth remembering? (sm)
It's a two-way street. I have some friends who always expect me to celebrate their occasions, but they always forget mine. If you have been avoiding friends, they may think you don't want to hear from them.
I don't know, this post down below has me thinking. What are your thoughts, woman to woman. sm
If your spouse came to you and said he was having an affair, would you be more upset if it was with a male or female? For me, definitely a female! If it were male then I would think that it had absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. I would be devastated if he were with another woman. Another poster below said she would be more upset if he were found with a male. What about you?
Mall
Mall of America
Any one been to Mall of America in Minnesota, my DH wants to go and not sure what to expect?
Mall of America
Yep, I've been there more times than I'd like to admit. My teenage daughter absolutely loves it! Very big, lots of walking, but it's 4 levels and each "corner" is anchored by a department store. Has Camp Snoopy, an amusement park, in the middle and lots of food courts scattered throughout. Also has restaurants and movie theater on the fourth floor. Any other questions?
Mall of America
Are you from Minnesota? I'm originally from Rochester, but have lived away (all over the country) for the past 27 years. ButI'm moving back this summer. Watch out Mall of America!
Mall ofAmerica
I tried to talk my daughter into the U of Minn., but she's decided to go to Creighton here in Omaha instead so I guess it's Go Jays! Where do you live now?
Mall of America
There's a new Ikea store right across from the mall. By the way, if you get there early enough, you can find parking in one of the garages which are right across the street and connected by sky-ways (free parking). They also have lockers you can rent in case your purchases get too heavy to carry! Have fun and happy shopping!
Yesterday I was at the mall and a
guy was walking along talking to a young girl. He rounded the corner and I was coming toward them. He stopped his conversation with her and said loudly to me,
You're pretty . . then went back to his conversation with her! LOL! She did not seem upset at all. Her brother? a friend?
Question. . jerk or just a darn nice guy? LOL 
haggling at the mall?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081222/ap_on_bi_ge/desperate_retailers
and avoid the mall
the snobs will not be reformed.
avoid the mall? Was that a
swine flu post?
DH and I were just told to leave mall. SM
It isn't really a mall. Just new shopping area that opened up nearby. Some stores are opened, some are not. It was 9:30 and we were coming out of the Lohmans, when security guard approached us. We thought he was just being friendly, but he told us to leave! It isn't an indoor mall, it's an outdoor mall, on a public street.
Maybe because of our age? I'm 60 and he is 56. LOL! We must have looked like ruffians or something. You know how us middle-aged folks like to hang out and cause trouble.
Held the door for a gal at the mall some weeks ago and
she just proceeded to walk through it and past me without a thank you. I muttered QUIETLY under my breath . . your're welcome.
We walked out into the parking lot and she turned around and said so nicely .
I am so sorry. That was rude of me. I should have thanked you. I immediately said, oh, that's okay. . no problem. She said again, No, I really am sorry. I don't blame you for being offended.
Wow! be careful what ya say!
Why is it when we WANT to be heard we aren't? lol 
Country. Mall or online shopping?
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Yesterday at the mall I was talking with a friend SM
I met who works there. A group of young girls about high school age came up to me and asked if I would take a picture of them together. I noticed she had such a beautiful accent. I was about to take the picture and she told me to be sure to get the American flag that hangs from the ceiling in the picture as well. They were thrilled to be in America. We asked them where they were from and they said they were from Russia. They were beautiful, polite girls who were smiling from ear to ear. It was a nice moment and I wanted to share it with you. 
Where in Northern NJ? Past Rockaway Mall?
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Hi elonmt. Yes, past the Rockaway Mall
going west towards PA. Live off of Route 80. My power went out at 12:30 as well as cable. Power came back on at 3 a.m. this morning, 29th and cable back on at 10 this morning. Man o Man. It has been crazy here. We had about 5 inches. Trees were falling, power lines down, roads closed. If felt like a January blizzard when I was out shoveling. Yes, I had to do it, but it was very heavy. I could not even have a cup of hot chocolate when I was done. We had to go out to eat also, but I was not complaining. Sleep with sweatshirt on with a hood and many, many blankets. Glad it is over. Can't wait until we get into winter. LOL
Yesterday on my break at our local mall when I
was leaving and at the door two young men about mid 20s approached me and asked directions to our county hospital and nursing home. Then they told me they had to walk because of no transportation, and that they just walked across town from a motel and were tired. After I gave the directions again one of them asked if I drive. He saw me just prior to that getting my car keys out. I told him yes. He asked if I would drive them to their destination. I told them I had to be back to work very soon, which I did. They could have been on the level, and I could have been on the new last night had I allowed both of them in my car. I felt bad when I left, thinking that I could have helped someone. What would you have done? Some years ago one night I was forced into my car by a male who followed me out to my car. That will stick with me forever. I have never been the same. Please reply. Right now I am thinking of the verse in the Bible that says something like Be aware that you may be in the presence of an angel. Did I let these angels down? Please help.
woman to woman talk sm
This has nothing to do with being a christian, it has more to do with group dynamics. I have to deal with it all the time with 6 women in an in-law situation. They are narrow-minded Bible-thumping bigots.I happen to be of another "denomination" and I do attend every function of theirs, weddings, funerals, all of it, receive their communion. I have had my parents die, lost my younger sister and many things happen where they could have reciprocated, yet they will not "step foot" in my church. So where is all their faith, they certainly are not practicing the do unto others. I can relate, it is a horrible way to live. Thank God, I had psychology courses and know about group dynamics, I am in the middle of a herd mentality. I could go on forever, they even have "interventions" when someone in their family wants to marry or date someone not from their denomination. They are awful. I know your pain! It's not your imagination, they hide behind their cohesive "numbers game," one speaks and all the others agree in unison. No one has a chance against this mob. It's tough to be your own person, lots of tears. And guys think it's all in our heads - NOT! Hang in, perhaps you'll have a Divine Intervention somehow.
Kangaroo. cat woman or wonder woman?
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People who let their children wander in the store or mall-
one with no one around" and I dont mean that in a perverted way. Just scares me to death that these parents dont pay attention to these small children. I once sat on a bench at the mall and watched a mother walk 20 feet or so in front of a toddler, for about the distance of 3 or 4 store, not once looking back. I was disturbed by that a little. Granted, I live in what one would consider a small town, but there are creeps here too Im sure.
I'd recommend going to a local mall on a weekend and watch....sm
to see how teenage boys are currently dressing, how their hair looks, etc. Once you get ideas of what is currently "hip" then you can search for bargains for the clothes. You can dress your son without it costing a fortune by looking for bargains, searching eBay, going to thrift stores, etc.
Have fun with this!
The JCP in our local mall opens at 4 a.m. on Friday! Craziness!!! nm
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Donations for victims of Omaha mall shootings
Hi all you fellow MTs,
I live in the Omaha area where the recent mall shootings took place. It has been a devastating incident, as you might imagine. One of my friends went to the mall that day and instead of going to Von Maur first as she normally would, she decided to start her shopping at a different store. She would have been right in the area of the shooting.
Most of those killed or wounded were Von Maur employees. I work in a trauma center and we still have one of the victims there.
If anyone would like to make a donation to the victims' fund, the best way would be to go to the wowt.com web site and click on "how to help" on the left-hand side of the home page.
Thanks to all. Keep the families in your prayers, please.
OldsterMT
just my 2 cents
I was raised in the south. I can tell you right now that if I had told my parents not to hit me, it would not have been pretty. I raised my children in the same manner. I fully believe that children should be spanked, on the bottom, in order to press home vital issues. I have raised 2 children, boy and a girl, both now 21. My son was a handful and then some. My daughter learned the limits and basically stuck to them. My son got mixed up with the wrong crowd and that was what changed his attitude. When you love your children, you will do whatever it takes, even if it means spanking when society says "not spanking, time out". Although, if you have not been spanking all along, starting at 14 might not be the best course of action, as it will just make him more angry. One thing I tried, when my son had to serve early morning detention for not obeying the rules, I made him walk to school (8 miles one way). I told him that his bad behavior was not going to change our family routine. (I did follow him in the care, he did not know). Believe, me he did not do this but twice. This even worked as a behavior modifier with the teachers. One made a comment to him about 8 miles was a long way to walk and he straightened right up. Have enough strength in yourself to do what society may say is wrong or mean if it means saving your child.
my 2 cents
My opinion is that you should just move on. I know you were offended and I feel that no one should have to put up with things like that. You have to just think about it from a retail point of view... I have worked retail before and sometimes associates make small talk with customers about returns...products ect.. because that is their job.. This guy might have been just trying to be nice and SAID THE WRONG THING TO YOU! Maybe it just slipped out. I believe you need to give people the benefit of the doubt... He did apologize and felt bad over it.. I think you scared this guy into THINKING about what he says before he opens his mouth!!
My 2 cents.......
In this case I would say the breed and size definitely matter. These are two dogs that were bred to do a lot of damage. My mom has a chow and he is very sweet but I could see, if he felt threatened, that he might tear another dog's head off.
I had this situation with a neighbor and we walked our dogs up and down the street, letting them see each other every day for a while. We didn't stop to talk to each other for a few days, then would stop across the street from one another and talk. Neither one of our dogs showed aggression towards the other, just more curious than anything, but mine was a lab and hers a large terrier mix. If one starts growling it would be best to jerk their leash to stop the behavior without saying a word and keep doing this when and if that behavior shows back up....every time without fail, no matter how much. If you act nervous, your dog probably will too. But again, if both dogs are very docile and laid back, it might go very well. But once you put one dog in another's house, there are territorial issues and your dog and your neighbor's will have every right to feel territorial and a fight might ensure whereas there wouldn't be one outdoors. This will definitely take time to overcome. Good luck!
My 2 cents (sm)
I've read most of the answers to your post, and I agree, you need to let this go. However, if it helps, take your last sentence and "use" that. He has made you a better person. Use that to begin anew. Good luck to you. There is someone out there worthy of you, trust me, there is.
41 cents
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41 cents, but.....
You can buy Forever Stamps for 41 cents which will not go up in the future. It helps.
my 2 cents
I don't really thing that hearing Merry Christmas sends so many people reeling, it is just the few that do not like it make so much more noise than everyone else!
Our small town has always had a nativity display at the courthouse/city hall. This year, ONE person in a 35,000 person town complained that it violated their rights to have to drive by and see a "religious" display every day. They were offended that it was just a religious display and not a true "holiday display".
So our mayor got very creative. He had someone create a Frosty the Snowman, Santa and Rudolph out of plywood, painted them, and then placed them next to the manger. Santa is holding baby Jesus!
I don't understand why people get offended by other people who do not believe like they do. I really think it is just a power trip, because this event proved that ONE person can change a whole town!!
Merry Christmas all, and if you don't celebrate Christmas, then happy holidays!
My 2 cents.........
Money is not the only thing he is lying to you about and you probably know it. Just what those things are, I don't know, but when a spouse lies and hides money, it is only a symptom of a lot of other things he/she is doing behind your back. That is why they become so defensive and try to turn the tables as if you are being ridiculous and just making up stuff. You know you're not going crazy.....you're a very angry fed up lady and for good reason. You know in your heart you have let this man belittle your feelings and make you feel less than a person. That's what they do to make themselves feel better about what they're doing.
My husband made very good money and for years, he always dropped off his check (when there wasn't direct deposit) for me to deposit, pay the bills. I knew where it all was and what was where. After several years of marriage, I realized he wasn't bringing his check home but stoppng himself at the bank and depositing it. Didn't think much of it at the time, even though I asked him why he had changed. He just suddenly had an extra moment at work or had to run an errand, when all the years before, he never had time to go to the bank, needed me to do it. Starting then, he didn't even bring his check stubs home after years of leaving them in the same place. When I asked what was going on, he became very defensive and told me I didn't need to know everything about "his" money and what he did with "his" money. Told me his boss keeps hundreds of dollars at a time in his wallet and he didn't trust his wife with keeping the checkbook.... she always overdrafted, messed up stuff, etc. Well, since I had been doing all that stuff for years with never a problem, I knew it wasn't because I was doing a poor job. He always insisted I do it because he just didn't have the time. His job was high profile and many hours, so I just didn't mind. I asked him did he want to keep hundreds of dollars in his wallet, did that make him feel like a man? I didn't understand his point. He just said if he wanted to, he should be able to. I never EVER told him what to do with money. We always kept everything in the open, joint accounts, etc. So, as time went by and he became angrier when I asked why he wouldn't bring his check stubs home, I loaded up the children and left. He was the type who thought I would do nothing and he was shocked as h*ll when I did.
The emotional turmoil that puts in your mind is simply not worth it. No answers from him, being told we don't have the money, when I knew full well we did and I would do without while he was out there blowing it on just stupid stuff. One day I had to use his car to take our child to school, let down the visor, and there was around 1600 dollars. That's all she wrote. I didn't believe for a minute he was having an affair. I just realized I was living with a very hateful man who didn't give a rat's butt about my feelings.
It's a simple as this, it really is. When a spouse starts lying about money in your household, there is a problem. In this case, you said your husband has been lying and doing this all along. I can't imagine how you must feel from day to day. Quite frankly, I just realized my husband just was screwed up and I sure was not going to go down with him and told him if he suddenly felt the need to hide his money to make him feel like a big shot, he could explain to the judge where he hid it when child support and alimony time came around.
Please give yourself some peace of mind. I know you are concerned about your children, but believe me, if they don't sense it right now, they will know daddy is doing something wrong towards mom sooner or later. It will affect them down the road one way or another.
I have to tell you counseling just does not work for that kind of man. You will have to play hard ball. He will never open his eyes otherwise and be prepared that he may himself live in denial about his problem forever.....do you really want to go down that path with him? When the kids are gone, you're still stuck with those feelings or lack thereof.
My 2 cents.
If you really want to teach her responsibility, have her make TIMELY payments to you, just as she would if she had to take out a loan (although I wouldn't charge her interest). Have her pay for her own insurance bill and gas, although if she is running errands for you, you could work out a deal for gas--one tank a week for example. If she's too busy to have an outside job, I would come up with some type of home job for her (washing all vehicles, cleaning out the attic, etc.) so that she understands the car comes with a price tag.
my 2 cents
My kids aren't old enough for their own cars yet but here's what my parents did with me and I think it was a pretty good deal:
I worked parttime to pay for my own gas and most of my insurance. My parents picked up the rest and since the car was paid off they just gave it to me. Also if there were any "upgrades" I wanted I had to pay for it myself. I was a decent student but in no way compared to your daughter.
My hubby and I have already decided that when our oldest turns 16 we will buy him a car (older & cashola, of course) and what he will be responsible for depends on his grades and extracurricular activities. If he's on the same level as your daughter, I see no problem picking just about all her expenses. Perhaps give a weekly allowance for gas. If she has a way to earn money (i.e. babysitting) then perhaps start with just minor expenses, adding on more as she can afford it and still keep up her activities/grades.
Just my 2 cents...
There were occassions that I remember when our church was in deep financial trouble - both times it was because of a pastor that people didn't care for, so attendance was low, which equalled low offerings. However, we still had to pay the salary of said pastors, as well as heating oil and electricity at the church, payroll for other employees and payroll taxes, church upkeep, etc. Our treasurer would come to council meetings and say - I can't pay the bills, and he even stopped taking a salary at one point. If we would've added property taxes on top of that mess, I know we would've had to close the doors. Thankfully, God is good and we are in much better shape now. I'm now the treasurer and I never forget what we've gone through in previous years because I know how quickly things can turn around.
Sorry so long winded, but I don't see it as a black and white - yes churches should pay taxes issue. It's a big gray area with a lot of varibles. Just my opinion.
My 2 cents
Seems like you are caught between a rock and a hard place, so to speak. But, I would be very cautious about pointing fingers towards someone because they make racial remarks or act different. This boy may very well have come from a family where they don't want him associating with blacks, and unfortunately, he may have adopted those feelings, but that doesn't make him a killer. In my community, lots of racial remarks are made at schools all the time, so if teachers turned everyone in, the majority of the school would be locked up. City schools are majority black, county schools are majority white. Most racial remarks are made by the black children, calling each other the "n" word, not to mention lots of other filthy things. Blacks and whites call each other names, often harmless friendly banter, but that's how it is. I understand your small community situation, but that could also be a horrible thing for that child to have to live down and accusing him unfairly could push him into even more bad feelings.... I'm sorry you are in this situation. Maybe talk to your son and ask him to not discuss this in school or with his friends anymore. Talk to his school and ask them what are they doing as a precaution today and for days to come.....hopefully, they are taking other measures as well.
Just my 2 cents
The school should have immediately informed you that they provided medical attention to your son (yep, ice pack = medical attention). If they called the other mother then they should have called you. In my experience (I have 6 kids) talking to the other mother will do no good, when the child is at school, it is the SCHOOLS responsibility to see this doesn't happen. You should make it known that in the future you expect a phone call from them, or they can expect one from your attorney, and if they cannot control the child in the classroom, either that child, or yours, should be moved to another part of the class, or a different class altogether. Ask yourself, how would you handle this had she stabbed him in the eye? Next time she might.
My 2 cents
IMHO, the school officials should be ashamed of themselves for not contacting you immediately!! Somehow, I would expect more sensitive treatment from a Catholic private school, too.
I truly believe that, if my son had stabbed another child with a pencil, the school would likely have called the police and charges of assault and battery may have been filed, right there on the spot, no matter what the age. That little girl is mighty lucky.
In our public school district, a 2nd grader was suspended for 3 days because he remarked to the teacher that she was "pretty." No physical harm was done. My point is, if a child can deserve such a punishment for innocently complimenting a teacher, regardless of whether or not it constitutes "sexual harrassment", the incident with the pencil stab wound should not go unpunished, and, as the parents of the victim, you should make it clear that you do not intend to gloss over it like just a routine event in the day of a school child. It seems to me that it is to the benefit of your child to make as big a deal of this as you need to. If you do little to nothing, what message does that relay to your child--that he is not important enough to defend in this case? That his rights are less important than those of the girl? That girls should be allowed to beat up on boys with little to no punishment? Your own son's self-esteem is at stake here. While it is good to teach him the golden rule, it is also good to teach him to assertively stand up for his rights.
My son is a BIG, husky boy. Things like this happened to him during his public school years. All he had to do was look sideways at someone, and I would be called; but when someone hurt him, the school didn't want to "bother mom and dad at work." What an excuse. I started documenting everything in written form, even sent faxes. The school hated that I put everything in writing, but I believe they respected us or, at least, pretended to respect us, and my son experienced fewer problems with verbal and physical abuse from other students after that.
Best to you.
Here is my 2 cents sm
First off CLEAN YOUR DRYER VENT. Not only is this costing you money, it is a significant fire hazard!!!! I have had mine done at my old house and they pulled out 40 lbs of lint. My clothes dried in FAR less time.
Second, if you are worried about germs, especially E. coli, you use the dryer. The dirtiest place in your house is the inside of your washer, think about it. The heat of the dryer kills bacteria left from mixing the all those items of clothing from different family members. The sun and wind, while nice, don't do much to kill bacteria.
Third, you would need to check in your area, but if you have natural gas available, it can be cheaper to have a gas dryer. At my old house, the power company gave me $50 for putting a gas dryer and another $50 for putting in a gas range. You would need to ask if they have something like that running to help defer the cost of putting in and buying a new appliance.
Alternatively, you can hang your stuff out to dry and run in the dryer, on hot for 10 to 15 minutes to soft things back up and kill some of the bacteria from drying outside. It will soften up T shirts and towels for you as well, but it will save money.
Look into making your own laundry detergent and dryer sheets for less money. While you are at it, look up what you can cut with your dishwasher powder to extend it and save money.
My 2 cents
I am honestly not putting any blame on you here. I am just going to briefly tell you my experience. I went through something similar with my son around the same age and he was right. I was yelling and fussing over the simplest things. I didn't realize it until he called me on it, and then I asked him to calmly point it out each time I was doing it. Things got much better shortly after that. I really like the calender idea. I am not saying you are doing anything wrong, but you have a lot of extra stress on you right now and may not realize how you are reacting.
BTW, sometimes divorce is the answer. I am not divorced but my parents are and it was for the best.
RE: My 2 cents
I posted that before I read this post. Glad you had that talk with him. My son is much older now and the only thing we can't talk about is politics. LOL!
My two cents
It's a sad day when people think of children as "belongings" rather than human beings. Whether or not they are actually his own children one only knows. Debbie Rowe can can say anything she wants now that Michael is dead but she really should watch out what she says if she cares at all for them. I never followed the story of her, so I don't know whether she was paid for her services or if she is raising them or what. I don't know anything about her and I don't even know what she looks like. But if she cares anything about children she should be careful what she says because my opinion is that these children know Michael Jackson as their father.
MJ I believe had a very troubled and disturbed soul and am glad he is finally lifted from the confines of physical life and hope he is at peace now. I got tired of the media blitz after the first 2 hours of the solid media circus. All those who criticized him and judged him when he was alive are now acting as though they were his best friends and they actually cared about him when he was alive.
Whether or not these children are of flesh and blood or adopted they are still his children and he raised them their entire life. I think if it comes out that they were not his legally it would be devastating to them. I also wonder how much Debbie Rowe is now getting paid for her interviews. Could be a motivating factor I would say.
My 2 cents, FWIW
I learned a long time ago that if I went to Church for the people, I'd always get hurt. If I went for my relationship with Deity, I'd avoid much of the drama that exists in these sorts of environments. And it does exist in ALL religious environments.
Concentrate on SPIRITUALITY rather than RELIGIOSITY, and it can really help one to have a lighter heart. I hope this helps.
When I was in school, it was 85 cents for
lunch and 15 cents for milk. All 3 of my kids do go to the same school. The discounted meals aren't exactly based on how many kids you have at the same school. It's based on your annual income and total number of dependents. We make too much to qualify for any of the state-funded programs (not that I'm complaining about that).
? you thought 62 cents was too much? sm
You are lucky (or spoiled!) - I live in WA state and have been paying 98 cents a pound unless they go on sale.
What I really notice is the price of flour- and wheat-containing goods like tortillas, crackers, etc. There are times I think, Nope, not buying, and wait for a sale.
Just my 2 cents, these are great ideas!
I like the card making especially.
just my 3 cents - Spin The Bottle is okay for you...
very curious............
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