Before you push the panic button sm
Posted By: Keep your hats on! on 2008-11-14
In Reply to: depression? - shelly
This is a recession, quite possibly the mother of all recessions. It may turn into a depression, but it will run a very distant second to the Great Depression, IF it does.
Pre the GP (Great Depression) you several things going on that are NOT true today. We had come out of WWI not that long before. It had been a very bloody war, the first war with mechanized destruction. What the Doughboys witnessed was for them what we saw on 09/11...unimaginable death and destruction. It changed how they viewed America.
When these boys came home from the war, they came back to the farm, by and large. We were an agrarian country and with the exception of east coast, there were hardly any factory jobs and most people worked the land. Plenty of places all over the country people worked on "shares" and they were not all in the deep south and they were not all black. There was not nearly the land/home ownership that there is today. Most of these dirt farmers lived in poverty and barely scraped by enough to eat twice a day. When the great Dust Bowl came through Oklahoma, it took the enormous clouds of dust eastward and dumped it into the Atlantic Ocean. This was a man-made disaster and the story of the Joads in the Grapes of Wrath centers on the Dust Bowl and the farming habits of families, like the Joads caused them problems. It was their fault that the top soil blew across FDR's desk in the Oval Office.
There was no infrastructure to speak of, in those days. There were roadways, but not the spider web of paved roads there are today. Goods were carried on the rails, not over the roads. You didn't have Walmart or Kroger. You had the store "in town" and the Sears-Roebuck catalog. If you couldn't find it there or could not afford it you either cobbled something together or did without. You can look the Coal Miner's Daughter about being so low-down dirt poor it is unbelievable. That movie is quite cleaned up and Hollywood presentable. You could look at the sparse surroundings of the ranch house in Broke Back Mountain where Ennis goes after Jack dies, and while the time frame is more modern, the very plain, only the very basics of life appear in that ranch house. They are both a bit sanitized, but reasonably realistic.
Today, Americans live extraordinarily different lives than we did 80 years ago. Most people have a vehicle. Most people have more than a dirt floor shack to live in. We, have thanks to the Great Depression and FDR's recovery plan, electricity, roads, water, sewage and other sanitation. We take these things for granted, but we should not. The GP did bring some food shortages, not because of the depression, but because of the lack of infrastructure combined with people on the move to find work to subsist. The food shortages you are thinking of came with WWII and rationing...another problem secondary to lack of infrastructure and subsistence farming where there was not enough food produced to meet the need.
If you are going to stock up on food, let be for more common sense reasons. If you put your money in the bank, you will make 2% or 3% return on $500. If you put that same amount into nonperishable food (think canned goods), you make a better return on an investment. You don't earn 2% or 3%, but you can end up leveraging against future price increases that will meet and exceed what interest you make from a bank, which is nothing right now. You will need food whether you buy it now or buy it later. Squirreling away extra under the bed or whatever place you can find room, is a wise investment...financially and in peace of mind.
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push cuz
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Just one more sutle way to push God out of our lives
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He's learned to push your buttons
and boy is he pushing them. The hardest thing you have to learn to do is not argue with him. Don't try to reason with him, don't try to make sense of a situation for him or with him. If you want him to do option A and he argues, give him option B, but make option B so completely horrific that he has no choice but to go for option A. Have this conversation with him once. If he still argues, explain that Option A is still on the table, but in addition to that he'll get to do Option B as well. Or something like that. And then follow through. Whatever you promise/threaten, you have to follow through. They figure it out really fast when you dont' mean it.
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I'm good with the going to bed hungry deal, too. If he complains, give his dinner to the dog and he can have breakfast in the morning. Again, he would get one warning and then he'd see me give Fido the plate. I don't think that will take more than one or two times for him to figure it out. The other key is to make sure that any snacks that are in the house are put away in places he can't get to.
Once you and hubby are consistent with these types of rules, if he is still having this kind of behavior, then I would absolutely look into therapy. Especially if this is new behavior and hasn't been growing for a while.
I'm large-chested, but I only wear push-ups
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If you are having problem with muffintop, though, you're not trying the right size. Go to JCP or Victoria Secret and have them measure you. Oprah says 40% of women wear the wrong bra size.
As far as push-ups go, I really like the ones by Ambrielle, which are sold by JCP.
easy button sm
I gave a gift to a home for troubled kids, attached a gift card to an easy button. Still getting thank you's. Just added a simple touch to money card which I don't like to give, but in this case it worked well, as kids are older, teenage troubled kids.
Try going to the Help button on a Word document (sm)
for Microsoft Word Help, then type in "mail merge" and it should walk you through what you need to know.
Alternatively, type "Word, mail merge, envelopes" in google, and you should get lots of hits on help for it, especially directly from Microsoft.
I haven't had to mail merge in so long, I've forgotten too! Hope thisi helps
Sadly no edit button.
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I get a kick out of the "Easy button" ones (sm)
just saw one where electronic stuff is landing everywhere, a laptop on the holiday table, a GPS hitting a guy in the head while he's hanging lights outside, etc. and it turns out to be a baby just playing, smacking the Easy button over and over. Makes you stop and watch, and funny the first time, anyway!
There is usually a little button that doesnt look important that turns the LCD on and off
I know my Sony does as does my brothers that is a different brand
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Panic Attacks
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How about the feeling of panic as you
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A panic attack
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And Kim has a panic disorder and is agoraphobic.
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Good question - ding! (that's the "correct" button you hear on game shows.
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I would say that you have every reason to have panic attacks what with all the stress you've SM
been under. I take Effexor XR for my painic attacks and atenolol to help control my BP and it keeps my heart rate down. The combination works wonderfully, although I wonder if I've become a little too dependent on it as I sometimes get a little anxious at the thought of being without my Effexor.
I would have periodic episodes of anxiousness going all the way back to my teenage years, but I would always work through it myself. Then a year ago, in the midst of marital trouble and feeling alone as I lived two states away from friends and family, I started having what I now know to be gallbladder pain while I was at work. In my mind, I knew I wasn't having a heart attack, the pain was in my right rib cage and radiated around to my right scapula. But I couldn't seem to convince my body. My heart started racing, my mind was racing. I felt dizzy and short of breath. I went to the employee health nurse who took my BP and it was sky high. She immediately rushed me to the ER which freaked me out even further.
Long story short, I was having a full blown panic attack and I hope that I never experience anything like that again. I ended up crying for three weeks straight, was afraid be left alone, was afraid to leave my house, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, would pace the house with my heart racing, not able to calm myself down.
I saw three different doctors before I found a female doctor who listened to me and told me she knew exactly what I was talking about because her daughter had panick attacks too. She started me on Effexor and set me up with a therapist who taught me breathing techniques and meditation techniques to help calm myself when I feel anxious. One technique, as simple as it sounds, is something I practice almost daily which is deep breathing: in through your nose and out through your mouth and as you exhale allow your body to relax starting from the shoulders down. It seems silly, but it really works. I noticed that I clenched my jaw a lot and so that is were I focus my mind when I'm trying to relax. I focus on the tension in my jaw and start relaxing from there down.
Exercise is another great technique for relieving anxiety and stress. All the experts say that, and it's true. Just getting outside and walking can clear the mind.
Well, I've rambled on and on. Sorry about that. Let me just add one more thing, if you decide to try medication, my advice would be to be patient. Sometimes it takes a few different trials of medication before you find the one that fits. My doctor explained to me that panick attacks are caused by an overactive fight or flight response in the brain and so SSRI antidepressants like Zoloft or Celexa won't do the trick. You have to have a NRI (norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor) to calm the response.
I'm not saying you need medicine, but I am saying that you may want to get a handle on it now so you don't have to go through what I did. I can't even explain how horrible it feels to have your mind spinning of control. I felt like I was genuinely losing my mind.
Well, anyway I feel for you and I wish you well.
Be careful if you have a tendency to anxiety/panic. Wellbutrin
people who suffer with anxiety/panic.
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