Baking bread from scratch is hard work, sm
Posted By: nm on 2008-08-16
In Reply to: Homemade Bread - many questions
especially for people like us who abuse their hands working. Kneading bread is exhausting!
I have a bread machine and love it. It allows for both bread mixes and scratch ingredients. The bread tastes delicious, too.
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Congrats to all! Lots of hard work getting there, for sure! :) nm
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with lots of hard work/rehab they can get it back...
My father had a stroke and got everything back but for only 8 months and then had another one which took him out but he lived for another 10 years.
A friend at age 52 had a stroke and she is fine today, not 100% but 90% and works and drives.....
A person's father where I live had a stroke the other day and didn't go to the hospital and I saw him twice since then and he is up and walking around and is 62.
When a stroke occurs, many strokes may follow...and it's ost important to get to the ER ASAP without fail.....the sooner, the better...and in getting function back.....
Hope he gets better real soon......
I agree! Many kids are overweight, lazy and don't want to work hard for anything!
Good luck to them in the working world...how many do you think will actually do well? It's a scary thought.
but, did he actually scratch the pan, or no?
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Never would I declaw but I have the scratch
boards, several, in the same room and of course they are going for the couches. They have killed my favorite fabric chair but can get another 1 really cheapo off Craigs List but the leather? The bad thing is when they are doing their thing apparently is at night when I am sound asleep. I will take the advice in mind though and get my water bottle ready and practice my loudest HEY!!
Scratch up at least half of what you owe - sm
(all of it if you can) go on a road trip to see him, 2-day drive or so if I read it correctly (or remember correctly), pay the ex off/get up to date on CS then stay a week or two, at least show your son that you want to see him and not just sitting back waiting for him to come to you when your ex decides it fits his schedule or is okay. Obviously find out if your ex has anything planned for the time you plan to go then just show up, I would not aprise anyone to your plans, just go. Even if he screws you over at least your son will see that you really, really wanted to see him and tried everything to accomplish it. This will make your ex look like a real schmuck if he does not let your son see you while you are visiting. Good luck.
I don't use Jiffy. I do mine from scratch. nm
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scratch and sniff cat food labels...
so sick of Picky Pete! this kind?, this kind?, this kind? -- three a day is my limit of trying to guess his mood...
Hopefully you use an expander, and aren't typing it all from scratch? NM
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Know how you feel, I scratch my back on doors or corners (sm)
rubbing up against them like an old cow on a tree or post. Maybe I ought to check into finding one of those too. Though my family enjoys laughing at my unusual gyrations.
I totally understand your point but people saying itch when they mean scratch
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Not if you are planning on baking
Wax paper will melt wax into your foods if you are baking. That being said, if you are making a cake you can butter the pan, both sides of the wax paper, and place the wax paper on the bottom of the pan wax side down, putting your batter on top. You can also use wax paper to steam. If you are planning on baking using direct oven heat (where the paper will be exposed directly to the enviornment around it) I would not suggest it.
Baking Stones?
Somebody gave me a brand new baking stone from Pampered Chef. I know people love them but I have never been able to figure out what you do with them except for cooking a frozen pizza... maybe...?
Baking stones
I LOVE my baking stones and use them all the time. The best thing to cook on them at first is something really greasy, like using crescent roll dough and make something with them. They are a greasy dough, so they help season the stone. I have a recipe for veggie pizza that uses the roll mix. The more seasoned your stone is, the better your food turns out. I make pizza, cookies, french fries. ANything that can be baked on a cookie sheet (within reason) can be baked on a stone. It makes killer calzone and pasties. Experiment and have fun with your new stone.
Baking gifts
Do any of you give baked goods during the holidays? What are some of your favorites? I get tired of making the same ole bread, cookies, and chocolate covered pretzels every year.
I will say that last year I put peanut butter between 2 Ritz crackers and then covered them in baking chocolate (white and semi-sweet) and they turned out really well. I put sprinkles on the white ones (they showed up better than on the semi-sweet ones).
Applebee's LOL. No cooking just baking.
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Try a little bit of baking soda on a washcloth
Just remember that the rubbing may cause a little redness, but i think it will help with the kool-aid. Been there, done that...
Bertoli's shrimp scampi is awesome. In the frozen food section. Don't cook from scratch! nm
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Sprinkle with baking soda and then vacuum
Works wonders.
Whatever fluids you use, keep basting during baking, then cover with foil out of the
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Might have him shave pits completely & just use baking soda as
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Rub some baking soda or corn starch into him well and brush out? nm
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Question. Which oven rack do you normally use when baking meats or what have you. Never sure if
bottom rack is best or middle rack which seems rather far away from the heat.
Sounds great..Question about baking time/temp..sm
How long do you bake the muffins and at what oven temp? These sound wonderful & so much easier than making pumpkin bread. Thanks!
leave it open for about 6-8 hours, seriously. baking soda 3-4 boxes, too. nm
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You can search for baking mix gifts in Mason jars, too, or some version of those words. nm
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Someone posted a recipe for baking chicken in bbq sauce and Italian dressing... SM
Does anyone have that recipe? I am making chicken tonight and need something that I can throw together and stick in the oven while I'm working. I haven't cooked in a couple of days and the natives are getting restless for a home cooked meal!
Try scrub ing/mopping with baking soda and vinegar and keeping windows open as much as possible - nm
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Does anyone have a bread machine?
If so, would you recommend getting one and which brand is good? 
Bread Machine
 Hi - I love bread! I have a Hitachi that is old and works great. I am antsy to get a new one though and think I will get a Zojirushi - they are the best I know of. I mostly use mine to mix dough and then I proof it outside the machine (I proof in my dehydrator, you just take out the shelves and set it on low and shortly thereafter all the rising is finished - I use a big dehydrator from Excalibur so a lot of bread can fit in there! Yummy bread. It also saves a lot of money because bread is now about 2.50 a loaf or more for good bread, but mine is better and is way cheaper! I got one for my daughter and got her the one she wanted (a Panasonic), which is half the price of a Zo and she thinks works just as well. Just get one with the bigger size insert so you can make big bread if you want (you can always make it smaller, just by using the small recipe size if you just mix in your machine and get one that has a setting for adding in add-ins (like raisins or nuts or whatever). Those are the important things in bread. Go to King Arthur Flour website and check out the bread! It is the best place to buy ingredients that you might not find in your own town if you live in a small one. Now I am hungry for bread from all this and think I will go put some Portugese Sweet Bread in there for later! Good luck with your bread! Maybe we could quit transcribing and open a bakery! That might be fun!
bread recipes
Would the kind lady who posted her bread recipes please reply to me, even if it is my private e-mail address, with the recipes that she had for 4 loaves of bread. My hard drive crashed and even though I copied the recipe to my word expander, I was not able to print it out.
Bread at Sams
I know this isn't latte, but my husband and I found a certain organic wheat bread at Sam's Club that we absolutely loved. It was 4 loaves in a bag for around 5 bucks....great price and great bread. It was fresh bread, so 15 minutes in the oven and it was ready!!!! They discontinued it and I called them. The marketing guy said he knew exactly what I was talking about because he and his wife loved it also, but the numbers showed it wasn't selling as well, so they placed it in different places in the store locally, but it still didn't sell well, so they discontinued it. I can't imagine that because every time I went in, there were tons of empty boxes I had to move around to get to the new ones. Did they tell you it wasn't selling well?
Homemade Bread
I'd like to start making my own bread. I can only tolerate easy recipes and not too time consuming. Is making your own bread easy, moderate or difficult? if it's easy, do you have any tried and true recipes?
Should I buy a bread machine? What can you tell me about bread machines and their ability to pop out good tasting bread, also, with bread machines, do you have to use a pre bought packet or can you stick your own ingredients in there and bake?
Homemade bread
Well, I'm old-fashioned. I've never used a bread machine in my life. But I do make four loaves of bread at least every week and my family can't live without it (I say in all modesty). I've won blue ribbons at the County Fair for it. This is how I do it - This may seem very long and involved, but it's because I'm trying to describe it really thoroughly. Don't let the length of the instructions put you off. Do try it!
The initial makinag and kneading of the dough only takes about twenty minutes - the rest is waiting time, mostly.
I start with dry yeast, one package in a half a cup of hot tap water, stir it up and let it sit for 5-10 minutes. While it's sitting, I put three cups of hot water in a big mixing bowl with two teaspoons of salt, two tablespoons of sugar, and a quarter stick of margarine (or butter if you prefer). I heat that in the microwave for three minutes.
Then I add two cups of flour to the ater/salt/sugar/ butter and stir it up. You'll need a strong spoon because it'll get pretty thick later on. I have a favorite wooden spoon that I use. Once that's mixed in (it doesn't have to be completely smooth) add the yeast, then add another half cup of hot water to rinse the rest of the yeast out of the cup and into the dough. Stir that up, and then start adding your flour. I start with a total of ten cups, usually get close to twelve. You can do that all at once or two cups at a time. After it gets too hard to stir, it's time to put some of the last two cups of flour on the table and dump the dough mixture out onto the table. Then comes the fun, especially if you're stressed. Start kneading the dough, adding more flour when it gets sticky. Depending on how humid it is, you may need another cup or two cups. I usually add about half a cup at a time gradually each time it gets sticky. If you put in too much all at once, it may turn out too heavy. At eleven or twelve cups, you will hit the point when your hands don't stick to the dough anymore. Then just knead it for another several minutes until it's smooth "as a baby's bottom" was how I was taught.
Then I wash out the bowl and dry it with a clean dish towel, spray the inside with cooking spray, put the dough in, then thoroughly wet the towel (not dripping, but don't wring it out all the way either), and cover the bowel. That'll keep the dough from drying out while it's rising. Set in in a warm place to rise. In the summer I set it on my stove with the light on over it. In the winter, I'll put a pan of warm water in the oven on the bottom shelf and put the bowl on the top shelf.
Let it rise to double its original size, about an hour. Can be more. Dough is very forgiving if you let it rise too much. Then fold it in on itself, recover it and let it rise again. I usually let it rise at least two or three times. The more often you let it rise, the lighter it will be.
After the last rising, I spray my four loaf pans with cooking spray, then take the dough out, put in on the table and divide it into four parts with a large knife. Then, fold it in and under to form a loaf and put it in the loaf pan. Set that to rise to double. At about 45 minutes, start preheating the oven to 375 degrees. When the dough is the height you want (it will rise a little more in the oven), stick it in the oven for 30 minutes. It should be golden brown on top when it's done. Take the loaves out of the pans immediately and put them on a cooling rack so moisture doesn't accumulate under them.
The family will attack the first loaf of bread immediately, be forewarned! The other three, when they are almost cool, put them in regular bread bags you have saved from store-bought bread. I freeze mine, because this has no preservatives and does get stale quickly. It's best eaten within a day or two of making it or thawing it. That's never a problem in my house.
I hope you try it. It's a great feeling, getting all the accolades from your family and friends. PS - if you're lactose intolerant, like me, there are no milk products in it. I never eat store-bought bread anymore. It also makes the best toast in the world, and French toast?!? Wonderful!
homemade bread
She's absoloutely correct! I love making my own bread. My kids are gone now, so I don't make as much, but give it away. It doesn't last long if it sticks around here and there is such a good feeling when you've done it yourself. No preservatives and junk included. That being said, I do have a bread machine as well, have rarely used it, but when I do, it does a gresat job and I can make more types of bread because I can just throw everything in and let the machine do the rest. It really does turn out good and I am freed up to do other stuff, like work!!
homemade bread
Thanks for sharing your recipe. I lost my bread book in a flood here in Florida when there was 8 inches of water in my house and my recipes were on the bottom shelf of my cabinet (among other recipes) and have not made any bread since. My mother bought me an "earthenware bowl" that she paid a lot for to rise the dough which retains the temperature. I only have 3 loaf pans but will buy another. I bought a breadmaker machine but did not use it much. I used it for rye bread which is hard to knead because it is more coarse. My family loved my bread and I pretty much loved to have my hands in that dough. I know it is somewhat exhausting, but I find it almost therapeutic and stress reducing. I am going to try your recipe.
Bread recipe
When you say you put yeast in hot water, do you mean just warm water?? I thought hot water would make the yeast not work.
Never could get the bread machines
to work really well using fresh ingredients, the boxed mixes worked good but are more expensive than a loaf of bread. I have a few recipes for the oven that turn out great though.
Bread help appreciated sm
The bread came out just "okay" with King Arthur Flour, it was a great experience though and I can't wait to get to the market to get the actual "bread flour;" hopefully will be within a few days. We have a Christmas Tree Shop in the next town and will try to get there to get the flour cheaper. We are also close to (excuse this) Wal-Mart. The aroma alone was great and I was amazed at how it kneaded itself, etc., as this is the part I was dreading when making bread. The Oster does it all for $59 with a $10 coupon good next week at Kohl's. I can't say it was that good this a.m., I did cut a thin slice and toasted it. Our Golden Retriever was salivating but we're watching his diet. I will be looking for bargains and enjoying having the aroma in the house. We have cold winters in NE so the smell of bread and crock pot meal or mac and cheese is a good thing! I feel like Martha! (I could pack on the pounds with this.) The crust was crunchy and the inside well cooked. I may try pizza dough in it one night as well. I could become addicted to this experimenting with bread over $4 to $7 a loaf around here. Thanks for the input.
I have a bread machine but....
how do you bake without using the pan they provide? I have an Oster and the pan has the mixer built right in.
1 Cheesecake Factory pumpking cheesecake, 1 scratch apple pie. nm
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Love white bread. nm
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Definitely good bread - something dark or rye, or
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Skip the bread, which is where the carbs are -
Make the rest into a salad to eat with the soup! :-)
bread; soft fruit
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I made my own bread for years sm
I have celiac disease, so no more, but the kids loved it.
I have had a bread machine, but they are not friendly in higher altitudes, so I gave it away. I baked by hand and yes, I was an MT at the time. I used to make 6 to 10 loaves at a time, which is a lot of kneading. I found that kneading it as I did clay when I was throwing on a pottery wheel worked best for my hands. It is a spiral kneading technique, hard to explain. I sit on the floor and knead in a very large steel bowl. The angle of my wrists and hands is much better that way.
Anyway, my favorite bread recipes come out of the original Laurel's Kitchen. I don't like the new anniversary edition and I don't like their bread book. You'd need to look in the library for this, but it is worth it.
While I don't own one (have not found one) I understand that the best and easiest way to knead bread is a bread bucket. You can buy them from a couple of places on line that cater to Amish people. It looks sorta like an old-fashioned ice cream bucket, but you put bread in the bucket and crank.
I stand by something called Hungarian High-Altitude flour. I have used it at high altitude and low altitude, it is equally good. If you can, get bulk yeast from a health food store because those packets are pricey and not as fresh as you need for premium bread. Made by hand, the best bread comes from the best sponge beforehand.
Feel free to email me about anything I have said.
NYMT - bread recipe
Just reading over your recipe. What kind of flour do you use? Bread flour or AP?
Half a loaf of bread better than none
My husband (who is union) and I have talked about this and he definitely said he would take pay cut in order to keep his job if need be.
You could use them to make Monkey Bread. sm
You stack and layer them in a tube pan, let them rise as normal. Then take a mixture of melted butter, cinnamon, white and brown sugar and poor over the bread. Bake at 400 for about 40-45 minutes. Delicious for breakfast!
Does anyone every use a KitchenAid mixer for kneading their bread?
I have never made bread before but the mixer has a bread hook attachment, wondering if this works well or not?
My aunts always made friendship bread.
Not sure exactly, but they would get a "start" from someone and always had a little left to use to mix up the next loaf, so on and so on.
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