BTW, we did have a discussion with the youth about

Posted By: trose on 2007-07-29
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what they thought he!! would be like. My hubby and I also included our pastor just in case they had questions we didn't feel qualified to answer. Boy did we ever get some wonderful answers. I myself always imagine fire and unbearable heat. One suggested being all alone in a small dark place for eternity. One suggested that if you had an intense fear, for example spiders, you would spend eternity in a room full of them with them crawling all over your body. I think God wants us to use our imagination when we think of different things, after all he gave us the imagination to use.

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How much do you tell your kids about your youth?
This question has come up a lot more lately now that my DD is 15. DS is 17. I was a bit of a "wild child" in my youth. Nothing compared to some of todays youth but I definitely did things I am not proud of. Yesterday at lunch with my DH entire family the conversation turned to when I had to choose between getting a car or going "away" to college. My said that he knew I got a car within a year of turning 16 what happened to it. I simply said I got in trouble and my father sold it. There has been a lot of stuff on the internet as well as on the Ellen show about the "meanest mother in the world" selling her son's car when she found alochol in it. Well, my father did that exact thing to me in 1984. I did quite a few other things that I really don't want to tell my kids about but I don't want to lie. I don't ever want to hear "Well Mom, you did these things and you turned out okay." I'm just not sure exactly how to respond to certain questions. Anyone have suggestions on how to handle this?

Youth Group Name

My DH is a youth pastor, our Youth Group at the beach was called WAVES, which stood for Worship Active Voices Exclaiming Salvation. We moved up to the mtns of our state, and he had coined the name for our Youth Group as EXCITE, which stands for Exalting Christ in Today's Environment!!. We are still looking for a home church since we moved in Jan 2007. My DH is getting very disheartened... Good luck to your Youth Group. Oh, by the way, if you live anywhere close to Myrtle Beach, SC then consider taking your youth next year to the Big God Conference on New Year's eve/day. It is AWESOME!!

They have recruited thousands of Mexican youth
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Ideas for Youth Group Names
I'm teaching a small youth group at our church and I'm trying to come up with a good name for them besides "(Insert church names here) Youth Group". Also, our Baptist Association has an association-wide youth group and I'm trying to come up with some ideas for them too.

(I know this is church-related but I was hoping I'd get more ideas if I put it on the Gab Board)

TIA!!

Update after doctor visit/youth council.

The doctor wants to try the Respirdal for another month and see if he gets any better, if the auditory hallucinations stop, etc. My son also gained 3 pounds in the last month. I'm not super worried about him gaining too much weight as he is an active kid but just one more thing to watch.

The youth council came up with my son's "punishment" for the theft, running away, fighting, etc. He has to write a paper. Not even a paper. He has to write 5 things that he likes about himself and 5 things he can do to improve his world. That's it. Oh wait, they also told him that he has to feed our pets without me reminding him. I've had it with the legal system. I'm making him do my own community service. They are talking this kid to death and basically teaching him that if he doesn't behave, they'll keep talking to him.

I'm at my breaking point with all the mental issues, but seriously...where is the punishment for kids. It's like the legal system over does it or doesn't do it at all. I need a nap now.

Thank you to everyone who e-mailed with concern for us. I really appreciate that there are so many strangers out there who care enough to reach out.

Just had a discussion about
You know so many kids are spoiled... literally. They expect all these high dollar items and when they get out in the real world they don't have a clue how to cope without these and don't realize that they need to WORK, that things don't just come to them. My mother questioned me last week because I mentioned my son (12) has been saving his money to buy a computer. I also told him he will have to pay a friend of ours to install the computer so he can get all the parental things setup. I want him to start getting a taste of what it's like to pay for his own things. He will respect it more. Don't get me wrong... he got a Wii system for Christmas and he does have a cell phone which is a very basic phone, doesn't have all the extras on it, and I have explained to him when he gets out of the house that will be his responsibility to pay for. He does extra things around the house for me to help pay that monthly bill too. It's just a shame that not more kids are actually expected to work a bit for what they have. My kids don't get an allowance either. I figure this is their home too. We ALL pitch in. No one pays me to clean. LOL.

I try to teach my children that Christmas is about GIVING, not receiving. We gave some money to a couple families in our church anonymously around Thanksgiving so they could buy a little extra for their families for Christmas. Our children are aware we did this and also are aware that we keep this to ourselves. I want them to realize there are too many people who are trying hard just to live day to day and go without a lot of things because of financial situations. Our family has been blessed in big ways (we are not loaded but we have our jobs, we have our health, and we have loads of love)and I want our family to share with others.

If I were, we would not be having this discussion. I
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My mom and I have this discussion often.
They live at a 62-over apartment facility and always talk about the people who have kids but never see them and how bad they feel for those parents, and how thoughtless those children are.

One never knows what goes on behind closed doors. You don't know how those kids were treated growing up. Not every parent deserves to be taken care of by their children. I have friends that have left home at 18 and never looked back. Just because the old folks look sweet doesn't mean they were good parents.

Do a search on this here - big discussion:-)
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Have you thought about having a serious discussion?
Seriously - marriage is all about conversation and discussion and communication - do it now and teach your kids - you can agree to disagree even!! Just because one wants another child and another one does not should not mean you automatically do it or don't do it - but you need to discuss and move on.

You are funny. Maybe this discussion
will help:

http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15898

You could always give it away if the stress is too much, LOL.

I don't do inside plants either.

Actually I am new to this discussion and I admire
you for sticking it out with your kids. There is a lot of discussion about staying or leaving when you have kids - if the fighting gets to be too much, etc., maybe you should get out - but I think the kids deserve the best you can give them - and at this point that is the two of you together. I split with mine for 9 months 15 years ago - had 4 kids at the time - 2 were his - my girls have never gotten over the fact I left Dad for a while - but it made us a stronger family unit - and I am so glad I did leave shortly and more happy that I came back. Best of luck to you!!

Here's a whole discussion of people
battling mice and rats, with some ideas.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ipm/msg0118535629276.html

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Missed a lot of the discussion apparently - sm
What I don't understand is where you get that all unwed mothers are drug addicts or alcoholics.

That is not true at all. Sure, it happens to some but for you to lump unwed mothers into that category is terrible.

You don't know my personal circumstances. I don't know yours.

I'm just saying that I would like to help others that are in the same situation I was in way back when. Hopefully I would be able to help them so they don't have the struggles that I had.

Thankfully, my child and I were never homeless but I worked my tail off to make sure that didn't happen. I sometimes worked 2-3 jobs.

I also worked my way through school. I didn't get hand outs, didn't expect them either but it really would have been wonderful if someone was there to guide me to the things that I needed to do. Maybe it wouldn't have taken me so long to get to where I needed to be.

Absolutely nothing is free in this world and that would not be the point.

However, this is a dream we are talking about right? This isn't about socioeconomic dysfunction. It's about someone wanting to help someone else.

Update after discussion with hubby...sm
Don't worry clhmt... he has a "brainless" job - seriously but makes decent money doing it. (smile)

I did talk with him about it when he checked in on his lunch break and he's going to talk with his daughter about the note this evening. He's concerned about the "in and out" part as well but isn't convinced she has a problem because she has written negative notes to herself like this before... which in the past I've told him isn't normal and are cries for help but this is the worst one that has been found to date. I've pulled some info from the internet about bulemic patterns in teenagers to show him so hopefully he'll realize that I'm not just blowing smoke when I tell him that I'm concerned that she is bulemic. I just hope that he realizes that she has a problem and agrees to get her help, even if I just get him to agree to take her to a psychologist to discuss whether or not she has a problem.

Please take this discussion to the Christianity board.
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I remember that big long discussion
It went on for quite awhile. I still don't think it's a good idea considering how short of a time it's been around. I remember reading an old old ad on the internet about DES and it showed a smiling baby and said something about using it for every pregnancy. We all know how well that turned out. I hope PA doesn't make it mandatory either, because I will also have to fight it.

Discussion topic today
How on earth did you get custody of your deceased ex's cremated remains? Did you divorce him after he died? LOL

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Since on this discussion another thing I tell them to put down for weight is
too much.

Bringing Lost discussion up to top of board (major spoiler alert)

Okay, all you "Lost" fanatics, what are your theories now, and how have they changed? Who or what is Jacob? How did the "original inhabitants" of the island get there? They are mostly Caucasians with American accents, with a few exceptions. They don't look like the usual types of people who are native inhabitants of Polynesian islands - if, indeed, that is where the island is.

Why were Jack and Juliet keeping secrets from the rest of the group? If they had been honest and up front from the beginning about Juliet, maybe they could have all figured out a way to foil Ben's plans without bloodshed.

And will the island heal Locke? Obviously he is of major importance - I don't think Ben heard Jacob at all, and he was jealous and afraid when he realized Locke heard him. That's why he shot him. Ben is turning out to be an even bigger weasel than before.

And what exactly was the Dharma Initiative studying? Does Ben really know? After all, he was only a "work man" like his father.

For every answer, there are a dozen new questions - at least!

Heads up! The Gab board is for general discussion not to include MT, Religion, or Politics.
This was put into place when we very first set up the Gab board. We have a Christianity, Conservatives, and Liberals forum that you can post on. But, let me be clear. I do not condone trashing of anyone's religious preference and neither should you. I expect posts on any of these forums to be respectful (that does NOT mean we are censoring, there IS a difference). This is NOT open for debate. These are the rules. If you can't respect them, you don't need to post here.

With youth comes minimal life experience, minimal
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