As a civilized society, life in prison without parole
Posted By: is best punishment. on 2008-02-08
In Reply to: Poll. The Nebraska high court decided that the electric chair is inhumane. What do you think? nm - Former Nebraskan
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Does life in prison sound good to you? I would
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Who said we're civilized?
yes, but hearing he has to serve about 6-9 before eligible for parole
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No. I believe she should die in that prison bed.
We gave as much tolerance as possible by letting her live, which - in my opinion - would have solved this whole situation years ago.
She is free to execute herself if she wishes.
I don't care if she is different, saved, rehabilitated. It does not excuse her hideous crime. She is there because she put herself there.
JMHO
do you think that is what happens in prison?
uh...
if that was the real case, that would be worse, but that's NOT the case
Well when I worked at a prison...
The first week I worked there (in 1990) we had a lockdown because the prisoners were rioting and throwing their TVs off the catwalks onto the guards below. The riot was because the warden had temporarily taken away their cable programming. The whole block had to be tear gassed before they calmed down.
You really need to educate yourself on prisoner's conditions and rights - you don't have a realistic idea of what incarceration is like.
Jail/Prison
My BIL has been in and out of jail many, many times. He always says it's much better on the INSIDE than on the outside.
Let's see...they don't have to work, yet they get fed, a bed, clothing. They don't do their own laundry, yet they have clean clothes and linens. They get cable TV, take college classes, eat 3 squares a day, work out and get buffed up...so they can riot and overpower the guards, play cards, basketball, make phone calls...all at our expense!
Yeah, poor prisoners...they sure do have it tuff...
First castration without anesthetic...then prison.
But that's just me.
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
You know how you can tell a GREAT movie? When, even if you have the video with no commercial interruptions, if you're flickin' on regular 'ol TV and it's playing, you will stop and watch it...complete with editing for time and commercials. Airplane is one of those movies I will stop my flick-fest and actually sit down to watch and laugh every single time.
Same goes for all the Leslie Nillson Naked Gun flicks and pretty much any parody. Oh my gosh, LOVED Hot Shots with that older Bridges guy!
....I'm feeling a liquored-up comedy movie marathon coming up real soon!
Hope he becomes someone's wife in prison. nm.
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This is why I despised working in a prison
That ridiculous non-fraternization rule. It also applied to non-guards (I was a clerk in the business office). I was supposed to report to the warden if an ex-con even said hello passing by in a grocery store, I was supposed to be psychic and know who every ex-con in the state was, and if they happened to be an old friend I hadn't seen in 20 years I was supposed to snub them and run away, even if neither of us knew the other's situation until halfway through the conversation. If I didn't fill out paperwork and send it to the warden to report every single innocuous contact, my job was in jeopardy. IMO, there's a difference between becoming best friends with a con with friends still inside, and just living your freaking life in a community where there are bound to be cons here and there, and they happen to speak politely to you when you bump elbows!
I have a life, a great life at that. I just happen to include my canine family
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Anyone had a relationship with a person in jailr or prison?
Is it someone you knew or have you gotten to know them since they went to prison? Do you write them or visit?
no problem-prison inmates will kill him....
   
Martha didnt know how to stay out of prison. Why
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"Do that again and I'm taking you to the Baby Prison"
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Help. I have made my own prison. Please make suggestions sm
I will try to make this brief. I have marital problems, husband is gone all the time. I came to work at home again because I have no help with our children. I need to be here if they are sick and be here when they get home from school. But I have become once again socially isolated (I did this type of work for years and had a job outside of the home and enjoyed it, except for the fact that my children did not get enough attention, so I quit). I do have friends but I don't see them or talk to them often enough anymore. I used to walk several miles a day but never do that anymore, have gained weight, eat junk food, stay on the computer too long. I am constantly busy. I still do volunteer work with my children - Scouts, church, etc., but I am so overwhelmed. My husband is almost never here. It almost feels more like he comes to visit us sometimes than actually lives here, but I need his help financially and my son is very afraid for me to get a divorce (long story, but he is afraid he would have to live part-time with his dad, and they are not close). I have debt that my husband doesn't know about and would be extremely angry over. I can't sleep because of this. But he won't give me money for things we need, so I have often ended up charging things. When I tell him I need more money he tells me things like, "turn off the cable TV" or don't go out to eat. The thing is he spends lots and lots of money on entertaining himself. He makes 3 x as much as I do (or maybe 4 by now). I have not been allowed to open his mail for years and we pretty much never talk. I have started to allow things to pile up, mail around my desk, weight around my middle, clutter here and there. I just feel like a big slug. I am tired much of the time. In reading this I sound depressed but I am already taking an antidepressant which I started a few years ago because of my marriage. I love my children so dearly but I am afraid of leaving and disrupting their lives. If I left I would at least get my part of the equity in our home, etc., and maybe have a chance at having a life again. Anyway, I know this is long and rambling and jumbled, but I just woke up, from another night of poor sleep. Please suggest what you would do. Thanks
OJ SIMPSON GOT 15-16 YEARS IN STATE PRISON
for the Nevada crimes. I bet the Goldman's are jumping for joy.
I don't know about that - guys like that usually suffer in prison - even most criminals hate chil
He would probably get what he deserves better in prison - from the other prisoners, as long as they don't let him out!!
Unfortunately society has already
taken Christ out of Christmas. It has been said that many children today do not even know the true meaning of Christmas and only that Santa Claus is coming.
society does not get it
I am just going to have to vent on this one...
My husband and I got married when my stepdaughter was 7. She was in the wedding, etc. I adored her. We paid for her child support on time, bought her first car and anything she wanted, she came for summers, we went on trips together, and she grew up.
But her mother told her to choose which family she really belonged to and she chose her mother's family and that is the end of it.
It had nothing to do with me, even though it felt personal. Her mother asked her to choose and she was a good daughter and a bad stepdaughter.
I am allowed to move on with my life. Not every story has a happy ending. She will never love us or thank us for anything, and yes I took her to shop for her wedding dress.
I will be so glad when people stop romantizing divorce.
society does not get it
Here again, we are talking about the CHILDREN choosing someone to love. This is not even remotely about the adults choosing who to love.
Maybe you can console yourself by saying the other parent or grandparent is bad is bad or you are so much better. Even intact families sometimes compete for the affection of their grandkids, but a lot of times....they are not going to choose to love you for any reason, especially not to be better than the dead, missing or drug addicted.
I figure she will use the new baby against you, just like the old baby. You DIL is the issue, not her child.
society does not get it
Here again, we are talking about the CHILDREN choosing someone to love. This is not even remotely about the adults choosing who to love.
Maybe you can console yourself by saying the other parent or grandparent is bad is bad or you are so much better. Even intact families sometimes compete for the affection of their grandkids, but a lot of times....they are not going to choose to love you for any reason, especially not to be better than the dead, missing or drug addicted.
I figure she will use the new baby against you, just like the old baby. You DIL is the issue, not her child.
society does not get it
Being a stepmom is not like being an adoptive parent. It is like being a parenting team member. There is no recognition of you, except when you drop the ball.
Has society become this bad and why
I saw the post down below about the Wal-Mart worker. Here is a new article that just came out (link below). The police are now looking at video surveillance to see who trampled this poor worker to death. Personally I hope they find all responsible and prosecute them to the fullest. It doesn't matter that it was Wal-Mart. I like their store just fine, it is what society is doing to people that nobody even bothered to stop and help this person. I grew up in the 60s/70s in a small town in New England. Maybe I'm old fashioned but my parents/grandparents taught me better than this.
I just can't believe people would do this. And for what? Getting a Christimas item? This is one of many reasons why I do my Christmas shopping (what very little I do) online and gift cards.
I think the "traditions" of the "big" shopping day the day after Thanksgiving should go away. I really don't know what the solution would be to try to get the people to "love thy neighbor", not trample, bite, and spit at them so you can grab that item. (BTW - you can shop online at Walmart too).
I think to myself that I thought the spirit of Christmas was supposed to celebrate Christ. Oh yeah, I'm sure he is so proud of people like those who harm others and cause death so they can get what they want.
I hope those guilty are sitting at home worrying about whether or not their face is going to show up on the video camera.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081129/D94OJ4NG0.html
When I got my dog from the Humane Society
a while back, they gave me a free veterinary visit to almost any vet office in the city. She also developed kennel cough, but about five days after I brought her home. They say it can take up to ten days for them to get the symptoms. They said a large majority of dogs from any shelter will end up getting it. The vet can also tell by looking at their teeth about how old they are. Maybe you are right, she may have some kind of infection going on.
I think it's great you are committed to keeping the dog even with these problems. A lot of people would take it back and trade it like it's a car.
Society is getting too tolerant!
I suppose you are one of those people who thinks she can do anything she wants because she isn't "hurting anyone". It is poor manners to take an animal into a public shopping area. I feel sorry for you if you do not see anything wrong with this type of thinking. I suppose you also drive with your dog on your lap, too!!
Unfortunately you're right about society and
it's very sad. I'm average, not thin or overweight and fluctuate a few pounds a lot. So when I lose 5-10 lbs or so, I often hear from others about how great I look. Gee, thanks...? How bad did I look before that 5 or 10 lbs? It's a warped society but that doesn't mean we should try to conform to it. Turn off the TV and throw away the magazines for a while. And, heck, if your boyfriend doesn't like you the way you are, throw him away too :)
that's the problem with society
the poster definitely got to people. You need to get involved, for the sake of every innocent child and animal, and put these sick humans ouf of every child's and animal's misery. It's because of attiudes like the couple who posted here, oh, why post this, I did not want to read this, so just go on with your life and ignore what's going on around you, and that's why it continues to happen, because you do not want to hear about it, much less do anything about it.
National Honor Society
Have been asked by a friend to write a letter of recommendation for her daughter for National Honor Society, unfortunately I stink at letter writing, any suggestions?
I am so grateful the dreges of society
are not able to go on welfare and live anymore. I do not mean this for disabled, the elderly and the like. If you have a child, you did this and should not in any way receive welfare. This was what you wanted, not something taxpayers should have to pay for. If you had no money to have a child, well maybe waiting until you did have some might have been a good idea. If you cannot make it on your own, DO NOT have children. Simple. Do the math. I give only to people who come under a heading of some kind of misfortunate they did not bring onto themselves happening or to animal shelters, etc. To a drug place, alcohol or unwed mother place, never....
I agree about society and options, etc. (as
You don't have to have an eating disorder to be thin. Not everyone who is thin has an eating disorder.
Don't wish that horrible fate upon yourself.
If you want to lose weight, just set your mind to do it. Decide before every meal, snack, or drink you have, if what you're eating is undermining your desire to look better and be more healthy, and decide if instant gratification is more imporant that this.
Oh, and by the way, just because you are thinner, does not mean people will give you more attention. Believe it or not, it is what's inside that counts to the people who really love and know you. Yeah, you might turn more heads, but you are still the same person inside.
Having said all that, I do agree that society does judge people on their appearance.... beauty, body, blah blah blah... I could go on about my philosophy of that, but I'll save it for another time :-)
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I think we've become a disposable society
Perhaps it comes from having too much.
People used to get by with just a few clothes, that had to last. Now, many people need more than 1 walk in closet to house all their clothes. Something tears, ach, chuck it out, there's plenty more to wear. Even shoes aren't made sturdy, anymore. Used to be you got shoes repaired, re-soled, re-heeled, re-tipped. You don't see many shoe repair shops any more. We used to have one in about every mall.
Function of society at large (sm)
I think you are right to some extent. I personally try hard to keep my word and when I can't, I feel bad about it! I call as soon as I know it's not going to work and I apologize. I try hard not to say I can do something if I am not sure I can. I don't make other plans for that timeframe that I have already committed to see someone during. How is that so hard? If someone is "iffy" about something, they need to say "I don't know, can I get back with you?" Not just say yes and then forget about it. I know a lot of people these days who seem to plan several things for the same time period and then whichever one they feel like doing at the moment gets priority - regardless of who else is inconvenienced or whose time is wasted by it. (I know I'm ranting here...making me feel better...haha.) Then they don't even understand why you are angry or why it is offensive...as though you are being unreasonably demanding to think that someone is going to try to do what they said they would do. Whew.....ok, I'm done. Think I will look at my navel now...lol
Call the Humane Society or Emergency Vet
Tell them what happened, that the owners are not home, and you are afraid the dog is critically injured. They will then send someone to check on the dog and do what needs to be done.
As far as your neighbors being mad at you for hitting their dog, it is their responsibility to make sure their animals are safely confined. NOT taking a nap in the road.
Don't let the poor beastie suffer for their ignorance. Please call to see if the dog can be helped.
The lesser known (and least respected) Black Hat Society.
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Ditto, no desire, not in today's society/world!
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That is ABUSE Humane society or ASPCA should be called
Dogs dont just bark for no reason. In my opinion a person who puts there dog out and the dog is distressed and barking and the person does nothing to work with the dog and leaves to avoid the barking is abusing that animal. That is like locking a child out. If you really do love dogs like you say anonymously call the ASPCA or Humane sociey and let them explain it to the owner.
The local humane society allows people to stop by
and visit the pets. For example, if you like Kittens you can come by anytime they are open and just sit and play with kittens and or pet and keep them company. Also if you are a dog person, you can do same. Any day, any time. You might want to call your local pet shelter if you like pets. I hear that the pets and people get a lot out of it. Of course, I planned to do this a year ago, and still have not made it out of the house, but I do think about it sometimes! Good luck and have fun what ever you do.
Isn't it refreshing to know you are not a tool of the consumer "buy buy" society? sm
I can't tell you how empowering it is to know that I have 50K in savings and liquidity, as well as a 401K, my cars paid off, my house paid off (although it is old and not fancy). If I need something, I can pay cash for it. What a relief, when the economy is crashing to know that I will be fine (God willing) with what I have!
Definitely call Animal Shelter or Humane Society
Ours runs a once a month clinic where they will give rabies shots and spay or neuter for only $20.00. Tell them she's a stray, hopefully they can help you. LOL, she has chosen you and your family. She brought her babies in the house cause she feels they'll be safe there. Congratulations on being adopted!
The poster meant breastfeeding is primative in PUBLIC in our society today.
I agree with her. I don't have a problem with someone breastfeeding their baby, and I mean BABY, not toddler, but discretion should be used. That woman knew full well that she was going to be on a plane. She could have bottled her breast milk for her TODDLER instead of making others uncomfortable around her. It's the 20th century, not the dark ages, and not Ethiopia. And, this lawsuit crap only makes the mother look even more like a beatnik dingbat.
St. Vincent De Paul Society is good. Volunteers administer the program.
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No, Blondie, give the dogs back or call the Humane Society.....s/m
who can take care of 10 (t e n ) dogs? This is CRAZY!
Your husband is a coward. He should protect you. God knows what a 'deal' he made with this 'friend'.
for the life of me..........sm
I mean this just does not make any sense. I had an adjuster come out who looked to be right out of high school, looked at our roof, said it had a LOT more years left on it. I went right to the phone, called my company, said to send someone out that knew something about a roof. I got 3 estimates from roof companies and an estimate to redo one of our bathrooms where it was leaking through. When I threatened to go public with how many roofs were put on homes and checks paid in the field, at the owner's home, standing in their yard, and knew this folks didn't need a roof, then they actually gave me enough to replace our roof. If I sound bitter, I am. This is ridiculous. I cannot help a hurricane blew through, but one could argue spilling bleach in one's floor is their fault, not nature. My mother has an old home, over 90 years old. She has done the best she can with what she has, but when they came out and told her that she would have to pay a deductible to fix part of her room, and then another deductible to fix another part of her roof, because both problems didin't come from the hurricane (like they know this for fact), I blew a fuse. I went ballistic on them. She did get a check in the field from an adjuster at first, but it wouldn't even cover removing the old roof, let alone replacing it with a new one. After the hurricane, she had leaking in several rooms in her home. I pitched a hissy fit. They then came back out and I got a roofer to meet with them, and she then got enough to actually replace the roof and supposedly to fix the ceilings in her house....though I don't think it would cover all that. I called our state insurance commissioner and let into him.....I told him I would expose the garbage going on. People 1 to 2weeks after the storm getting all kinds of paid repairs, but those of us who had to wait later on down the line for an adjuster, were being told they couldn't find a problem. No, the money started flowing out like a river, and then after a few weeks, they start telling their adjusters to tell anyone else they don't see a problem. Bull!
Her life was more...
than Stephen King and John Grisham together could have conjured up. Maybe Howard Stern was a plant in her life by the millionaire's family or maybe someone else close to her was planted by his family. I don't know, but it is the most sensational story I've ever heard in my life.
life
I knew her from when she worked on the North side near the airport. She had Daniel with her at the motel not far away. I was a waitress and we had a meeting for all the employees of a new club and she came and had Daniel with her and I had my son (now almost 19) with me and they played for a bit and she would come to my house on occasion with him.
To be totally honest when in the clubs people are introduced as "family" so I dont know if her "sister" was actually her "sister".
I was a different person back then and unlike her I was able to get away from all of that. I wish things had worked out differently for her and especially for Daniel he deserved so much more.
I hope for Daniellynn??sp?? that she has her mothers spirit and tenacity and her brothers sweetness so that she can see through all this and know that her mother and brother loved her very much.
too bad; it's not WHAT you know in life..nm
Get your own life!
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