Are you in favor of this legislation passing?
Posted By: sm on 2009-03-05
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Georgia 'Octomom bill' would limit embryo implants
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*Georgia state senator says bill was inspired by "Octomom" Nadya Suleman *Bill would limit women under 40 to two embryos, women 40 or older to three *Critics call it a backdoor effort to outlaw abortions in the state *Bill faces long odds of passing because of timing in Georgia legislature
ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- The tabloid-friendly tale of the so-called California "Octomom" continues to stir debate -- this time 2,000 miles away in the Georgia state capitol, where lawmakers say they're trying to prevent a repeat.
Proposed legislation regulating in-vitro practices came after Nadya Suleman gave birth to octuplets.
A Georgia state senator introduced legislation to limit the number of embryos that can be implanted in a woman's uterus during in-vitro fertilization procedures.
Sen. Ralph Hudgens, a Republican from near Athens, Georgia, said his legislation was inspired by Nadya Suleman, the woman who said she gave birth to octuplets after being fertilized with six embryos -- an unusually high number.
"She is not married," said Hudgens. "She is unemployed, she is on government assistance and now she is going to put those 14 children on the back of the taxpayers in the state of California."
Suleman, 33, had six children before the procedure.
Hudgens' plan, which was co-sponsored by several other senators, would limit the number of embryos a doctor could implant to two for women under 40 years old and three for women 40 or older.
Those numbers are slightly less than what's considered the norm in medical circles.
The American Society for Reproductive Medicine recommends no more than two embryos for women under 35 years old and no more than five for women over 40. The reason for allowing more embryo's in women over 40 is that it is more difficult for them to get pregnant.
State lawmakers in Missouri are considering a similar bill. And England and Italy have had similar limits on the books for years.
At least some fertility doctors say the limits in Hudgens' bill would hurt chances for women to get pregnant. They say that while three embryos are usually enough, there are special cases when they need more.
"What this bill will effectively do is shut us down," said Dr. Daniel Shapiro, a fertility doctor in Atlanta. "Patients seeking reproductive care in Georgia will go to Tennessee or South Carolina or Alabama. They will just leave."
Breaking the law would carry a fine of up to $1,000 under the legislation.
Some critics of the plan also see another problem, calling it a backdoor effort to outlaw abortions in the state.
The bill, which Hudgens titled the "Ethical Treatment of Human Embryos Act," contains language that says "a living in vitro human embryo is a biological human being who is not the property of any person or entity."
The anti-abortion group Georgia Right to Life issued a news release in support of the bill on the day it was introduced.
"Georgia Right to Life supports Sen. Hudgens in this legislation and wants to see strong protections in place to stop the dangerous practice of implanting more embryos than is medically recommended," the group said, saying the plan would help avoid premature births and low birth weight in in-vitro fertilization cases.
Realistically, the bill faces long odds of passing -- at least in the near future. Tuesday was Day 25 of the Georgia legislature's 40-day session. Legislators will meet 10 more days, then take a break until June, when lawmakers will consider how money flowing to the state from the federal economic-stimulus plan may help their ongoing budget woes.
According the the Georgia legislature's Web site on Tuesday, Hudgens' bill had been read and assigned to a committee, but no other action had taken place.
Some Georgians from the lawmaker's part of the state say they hope he has to keep waiting for a long time.
"Unless the senator is a physician, ethicist or other informed professional, he should step aside and let the medical professionals determine what is best in individual cases," Dorothy West wrote in a letter to the Editor of the Athens Banner-Herald, Hudgens' hometown paper. "There are other issues more important to the citizens of Georgia that should be addressed."
LINK/URL: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/03/03/georgia.octomom.bill/index.html
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dump him and move on! There seem to be no redeeming qualities about him. You are either head over heels in love, afraid to leave or blind. You CAN do better, you have to want it and not allow yourself to be treated as a non-entity.
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I don't want to know who's going home before I watch it! :)
I'll try not to read the posts, promise!
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Passing gas, no but
in the 2nd grade I do remembering asking to go to the bathroom and not allowed to and wet my panties, dress and all over the floor around me. You cannot for 1 minute tell me the kids today are that much different from the kids when I attended school as far as belching, burping, passing gas, etc that it is all related to medical concerns. I don't buy that for 1 minute and any parent who does, needs to have their kid examined by a professional.
Do you want to say that the passing
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Do us a favor and hide the phone, please! : (
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They'd be doing everyone a favor (babies, grand-
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Passing Gas in Class
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grandmother's passing
Try and be at peace. God knows her heart, OK? You're a good person and you deserve to be comforted. As I said, be at peace.
Thanks for caring so much and for passing that along! NM
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I'm all for legalization (though not necessarily in favor of taxation), but (sm)
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Fewer DUI deaths ... have you seen how slowly and carefully a pot smoker drives? LOL.
passing you a virtual Valium....
relax before you hurt yourself!
Burping and Passing Gas in class
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