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Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-01-31
In Reply to: Octuplet mom "obsessed" with having babies - Happy MT Robin
I had a close friend who ironically was an obstetrical nurse who went through three trials of all this, and with medical insurance it cleaned her and her husband's bank account out, ironically, they ended up adopting a toddler and she then became pregnant NATURALLY!!! but anyway, I know first-hand the expense, what gives in this case, the parents had no money, as I mentioned below, this was reported on CNN and MSNBC.
Can't stop shaking my head in amazement! And if she were "obsessed" as a teenager with having babies for the sake of having babies, shouldn't the parents have gotten her some SERIOUS psychhiatric help, there is a big problem here, this young lady has unbelievable psychological issues that need to be addressed fast, and for her own happiness? Apart from financial, how does one mother adequately nurture and love each of these babies as individuals, all 14, giving them all the love, attention, care, instructions, etc., that they all so richly need and deserve in their little lives???
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laser treatments?
I'm addicted to waxing everything below the chin. I've never done my face though, except my brows.
To clarify, she didn't do in vitro.
She was using Clomid, I believe. She claims to have polycystic ovarian disease, and so ovulation is a problem for her. The sextuplets were conceived after it was determined that her ovaries were hyperstimulated, and the clinic would not do the insemination. She and her husband were advised to "skip the cycle", but went home and conceived the old-fashioned way anyway. Originally, there were 7 embryos, but one did not develop.
I don't know if Jon and Kate set about to conceive high order multiples, but they definitely went after money not long after the babies were born. What started out as an interesting program showing how two more or less average parents dealt with the demands of raising a family in an average home has morphed into a sad, sorry situation. The live in million dollar home now, and the show seems to be endless vacations and product placements. Those poor kids are on display like a bunch of zoo animals. What a shame. Jon and Kate need to shut down this production and take care of their family.
Supposedly in vitro with someone elses
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Depending on your age, if over 40 your fertility - sm
is supposed to drop (though I expect if I tried I'd get pregnant on the first try as both times took no "trying" at all). I'd just tell him pointblank that you do not want any more children; I presume you do the majority of the childcare, so if you had another would he help out (a lot?). Obviously you two need to discuss this, he needs to tell you why he is so gunghoe for #4 (do you have all girls, and he wants a boy; or visa versa?). Plus the affordibility factor, room in your house, etc. Is he just looking for another tax exemption? Mine tells me that if I get pregnant again I'd have to get an abortion, I told him at this late stage (41) I would not do that and he'd have to live with having a third child. I don't use BC and he uses the WM of BC, so it's up to him to make sure it does not happen. But you should probably come clean and tell him you are done being a baby factor and that you are quite happy with 3. Make sure he does not sabatoge your BCPs, or get your tubes tied or an IUD. Good luck.
Has anyone ever been on Clomid - or any other fertility drug? sm
DH and I are having fertility issues and the doc has put me on Clomid but I have yet to get a positive ovulation stick (the kind you pee on), and I am getting frustrated. Has anyone ever been on this?
Maybe that is why she wanted to use fertility drugs...
to get her own show on TLC...heck, we all know how John and Kate plus 8 paid for that brand new spanking house in PA with tons of acres...not working on computers like they claim he does....
My money's on fertility drugs. (Possibly an
WOW
I was wondering how she paid for fertility treaments. sm
A single mom with 6 kids, paying for fertility tx, it didn't add up to me. Some foreign heiress was all I could think of. Bizarre however it unfolds.
Law and Order CI -- I can't believe
they moved it to USA though- every time I think about getting rid of cable they do this to me. :(
Just a few - not in order
terminal cancer
bronchial washings
pus
Hilary
scrotum
MDSO
Yuck, now I can't eat dinner later after reading all these words everyone posted. Maybe I'll post them on the refrigerator so as to enhance my diet!
CSI and Law and Order
Saw the post on the other board about transcribing for CSI or L&O docs.
Had to respond here (because this is not really a main board thing), that these shows are awesome! I love them probably because it is so much like our work. One of the accounts I type for is actually mentioned on one of the CSIs and I go crazy when I hear the name of the hospital. LOL. Anybody else loooove these shows? Just curious to see if there are only a few of us or if a lot of MTs have this in common.  
there isn't any order that I sm
know of. There is a notice that ocmes in the mail that says it will just be in late May.
restraining order?
When you leave, could you try to get a restraining order? Then when he violates it, which he probably will, have him arrested. .
Nevermind.. order something...
called Lock Laces online. Expensive, but hopefully they will last.
It depends on where I order it from...sm
Pizza Hut now charges a $1.75 delivery fee and is only 1.5 miles from my house, so I typically tip 15% if we have it delivered instead of going to pick it up ourselves (Which we do more often since they raised their delivery fee). If we order from another place that doesn't pass on a delivery fee than I'll usually tip 20%.
I never, ever, put money into a tip jar anywhere.
When we do eat at restaurants I usually tip 20% or more depending on the service, but if I get suboptimal service I'll leave 10-15% depending on the level of service received and how busy the restaurant is (if they're busy I'm more forgiving than if they're not).
I'd get a restraining order, that way when- sm
he violates it he will be thrown in jail, and possibly get a mental health evaluation. You mom needs to do this as he has threatned her,etc. You never know when he might further go over the edge and followthrough (i.e. kill your mom), if he ever does you will obviously feel very guilty that you sat back and did nothing.
Look like a good belly rub is in order!!!
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No mentors, formerly done via mail order, etc.
I answered this before but don't know where it went. We worry he is being used but he asked us to think positive. We are sick about it but can't dare say anything. He is doing his best to ask for help, a competitor just laughed in his face at Manhattan. Newer product previously ordered online or through catalogs, no prior salesperson cold calling.
I usually give $5, or 20% depending on how much I order.
I know they work hard for their money, and believe it or not, there are still a lot of people out there that NEVER tip so I try to make a small difference. I know people in my family who have NEVER tipped and do not feel like they have to. I think it's rude consider wait staff usually never makes minimum wage and something like $3.35 plus tips, so, they are very dependent on tips to make a liveable wage.
depends on if they add gas surcharge of $4 when I order -sm
If not, I give a few dollars per pizza. If they charge that surcharge when I call in the order then I tip less. Some companies are charging it now and some are not, and it does not depend where they are delivering to.
The pizza place we order from
I have assumed that would go to the driver.
yes! order an appetizer - they are huge, enough for 2 (or more). NM
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Well, he or she won't have the sleep study, but may order one for *you.* LOL sm
I can't believe it; I'm communicating like some of my docs now, with the unfortunate wording.
Mail Order - KV Vet Supply (sm)
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I think DNA are in order for Jackson kids
I have seen the kids, all 3 of them and without a doubt do not think those are Michael Jackson's kids. One by a surrogate, well all 3 because apparently Debbie Rowe gave up her claim to kids for money and after they came out from behind the costume masks, there is not 1 thing, not 1 that looks like they are mixed, one kid is a towhead, the others have no facial features, hair nor any skin characteristics that resemble their father. I doubt this would ever be done but frankly have thought from the start Jackson was not the father and furthermore after staying behind the masks, blankets and things the children were behind for so long, thought then about covering up for the fact there was no blackness there.
Anette -- where did you order it from, would love a thermal one - nm
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I have an insane idea- order both--- be interesting - sm
to see how many eat chicken and how many pizza. I have a SIL that is impossible to please when it comes to food. My mom would always call her though and ask her what she would like; then she'd make what we will all eating (Turkey, spaghetti, whatever) then also make skinless chicken (usually) for my SIL so she would have something to eat as well. Yeah she thought it was a pain to do but she did it to please her DIL. So again, I'd just suggest back to her, hey pizza is growing old, how about we get pizza and chicken, and you know mashed potatoes is not the only side, they also have mac n' cheese, cole slaw, rolls, etc. Have a mini buffet with pizza and chicken and have some fun.
don't believe they were the bottom 3, Ryan said results in NO ORDER. (nm)
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you can pay attorney for an Order To Refinance for Ex; if he can't finance,
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I just realized that they are all lined up in order of their ages!
Max is the oldest (the one on the far left), and he will be 6 on Christmas day. Bailey (middle) just turned 4 this past summer, and scooter (end) just turned 2 this summer.
Tell them, my own boss, years ago no restraining order
for a husband. They could beat you and half kill you and you were considered their property. I know because have been there.
I once called in a pizza order to be picked up
and the guy on the phone said off-handedly....I don't need to charge you the extra dollar since it is not being delivered. I asked if that dollar went to the delivery person and he sheepishly said no. Really ticked me off.
AND WALMART canceled order-article inside..sm
Wal-Mart: We're not afraid to say Merry Christmas
No. 1 retailer has decided to abandon its generic 'Happy Holidays' greeting in favor of 'Merry Christmas.'
November 9 2006: 9:46 AM EST
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Wal-Mart has told its employees that it's OK to once again greet shoppers by saying "Merry Christmas" this holiday season instead of the generic "Happy Holidays."
CNN confirmed that Wal-Mart will announce Thursday that it plans to use the phrase "Merry Christmas" in products and around its stores this holiday season.
The announcement comes a year after religious groups such as The American Family Association and The Catholic League boycotted retailers including Wal-Mart last holiday season for excluding the word "Christmas" from products sold in stores.
"We, quite frankly, have learned a lesson from last year," Wal-Mart spokeswoman Linda Blakley told USA Today in a separate report. "We're not afraid to use the term 'Merry Christmas.' We'll use it early, and we'll use it often."
Besides resurrecting its Christmas pitch, the retailer is also determined to be the leader in this year's holiday price wars.
The November-December holiday shopping period is a critical time for merchants since it can account for as much as 50 percent of their profits and sales.
To that end, Wal-Mart was the first out of the gate to chop prices on toys and electronics much ahead of its competitors like Target (Charts), Toys 'R Us, Costco (Charts) and others.
To support its Christmas deals, the report said Wal-Mart will launch TV ads next week that trumpet "Christmas." It's changing the name of its seasonal decorations department to "The Christmas Shop" from "The Holiday Shop."
Moreover, Wal-Mart stores will play Christmas carols throughout the holiday period and about 60 percent more merchandise will be labeled as "Christmas" rather than "holiday" items, the paper said.
Definitely - I'm watching repeats out of order now - great show!!
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Phone calls are defininely in order here first! Passed
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Order of protection, change locks and be prepared
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Made to order waffles? If you have a waffle iron (sm)
you could have fresh blueberries and strawberries and cool whip and all the waffle fixings, let them each choose how they want theirs and make it right there at a decorated table! Also bacon and eggs and maybe some hasbrowns? What a great idea!
As the saying goes - "Let lying dogs sleep" - no DNA is not in order
What on God's good earth would that accomplish? So that some sick tabloid could then publish a story about this? Those kids know MJ as their father. I don't care whether someone thinks they don't or do look like him. I have a brother in law who looks nothing - and I mean absolutely nothing - facial features, hair color, skin color, or anything, like anyone in his family or even any ancestors in his family. When husband and his sibling are together they all act alike and they all have the same smile, two of them have the same eyes, 3 of them have the same nose, and the way they say certain things they sound like each other and their parents, but not my BIL, his hair, skin color, the way he laughs, talks, or moves - absolutely nothing like his mother, father or any of his siblings. They joke that he was switched at birth, but from the time he was born he was never out of his mother's site in the hospital.
I think most of America does not need to know whether or not the children are really his. For someone to come out and say "I think a DNA is on order", the family should tell that media clown - it is none of your business, leave Michael Jackson's kids alone. They are going through enough as it is. I hope MJ's family tells them no. And I think Debbie Rowe should keep her trap shut.
Twilight Zone Maraton, Anderson Cooper, Law&Order Marathon
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Good advice. In this economy, lay low. Sounds like a PT job may be in order to increase income. (
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'scuse...keep calls short as I feel I must do these things in order to make money. No babies
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IMO a card would not be out of order at all. Except a sympathy card, of course.
I totally agree a sympathy card wouldn't quite be the thing, but it sounded to me that the original poster of that idea didn't mean a sympathy card like one for death. I think sympathy in the sense of "hey, you had a rough time of it with this birth, and maybe things haven't been the way you imagined, but know that I'm thinking of you and I'm here if and when you need me."
I got PPD when my breastfeeding relationship didn't go right, following a birth plan that went seriously awry, and the reality of a fussy, picky baby instead of the happy, sleeping one that I had imagined.
I *did* spend a lot of time on the phone, but then everybody's different. I would have loved to get a cheerful card from a friend, however. Does anybody NOT like a card?
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