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And I thought gym teachers were mean

Posted By: Misha on 2007-09-19
In Reply to: Need opinions before I come unglued at the school - not happy

when I was in school! Argh! I'd be furious too.




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Teachers........sm
I understand the feelings about some teachers and the views that they get a good deal for doing nothing. When my children were in school, they had good teachers and some just downright horrible teachers that should never be teaching children. I think it depends on where you live also. They grew up for the most part in Florida and the community we were in had great schools.

Because of my husband's job, we moved to an area where the schools were less than desireable, but my kids were in advanced placement classes, which meant they were getting a better deal. I did see how this local system was dumbing down kids because a lot of them just come from homes where parents just plain ole don't care. Many problems, and they TOO think it's all the teacher's fault if their kids aren't passing. Strange that they never feel it is their responsibility to see their child is passing, but then again, so many of them are used to getting freebies and everything given to them without working for it, it never phases them they are actually supposed to raise their own child and not the school system.

That being said, my daughter now teaches in that system and I have to say, she has made a difference that is amazing. The testing scores (which personally she hates all the standardized testing but is forced to do by your government) have gone up tremendously with her classes, the highest in the school. Yes, she DOES WORK MORE than 8 hours a day. She has to be there at 7 and can't leave until 4:30....last time I checked that was 9-1/2 hour days. She has to eat with her children, and any "break" she gets is spent tutoring children to catch up or doing endless paperwork for the No Child Left Behind garbage. Her children truly love her and it shows. She worries endlessly about them, knowing so many of them go home where the parents aren't there, they work nights shifts, the children are alone all night. They don't eat dinner..many of them have only one meal and that's the one at school. She takes food to school and sticks it in their backpacks to take home because their lazy parents could care less and many are not even there at night. Some go home on Friday and don't eat again until Monday at school.

Don't blame the teachers for low performance at school. Teachers cannot MAKE lousy parents into good caring parents, they can't make the parents stop bar hopping and slutty mothers stop bringing home a different man every night and the kids see this trash. Teachers can't make the parents see that the children do their homework. They're not allowed to tell the parents to grow up and raise their child and stop acting like children themselves. Some of the kids come back to the school after hours to sit with her in the classroom because they dread going home because no one is there and they are scared. No doubt, there are a few bad apples when it comes to teachers, but there are WORSE parents who are responsible for the lack of their child's performance in the school system.

No one could pay me enough to put up with the trash she has to put up with every day. And to boot, at this school she has a joke of a principal who DOES GET A BONUS, not the teachers. And where is this 4% raise every year. She isn't getting it. She does not get this glorious paycheck you refer to and during the summer, she is tutoring kids to keep them from failing their grades against all odds. She spends her own money and does without herself, to buy things for the children they should have but don't. I personally have bought shoes and things their parents should get off their butts and get their children. These mothers seem to be able to afford expensive hairdos and fingernails, but can't afford shoes for their kids? The fathers....well, who knows where in the h*** they're at.....producing more babies I'm sure. When parents grow up and realize their responsibility to their children, then maybe the school can get better. Teachers are not supposed to be their parents, but many feel they have to be.
of course, most teachers would give a different
story, just as most MTs will tell you that they don't make enough to survive or they are living near poverty, but that's not really true either. Most people would say the same thing about any profession they choose.
Teachers from Hogwarts?
A ghost and a ghost buster?

(I'm looking at a flier from a costume shop).

They have a $70 Davy Jones costume that's unbelievable.

They also have male and female Spartan cheerleader costumes. Does your hubby look anything like Will Ferrell? Those are each $30 though. They have a Dickk Cheney mask. If your DH has hunting clothes he'd be set. You could go as a gunshot victim.

(Mr. Cheney's first name is a dirty word on this board - how funny).

Remember teachers can
make all the difference in a child's ability to learn. If the teacher is not good at actually teaching (which many are not!), you might want to see if there is another teacher to choose from.


If the &*%& government would let teachers...

and heck, even students arm themselves, we wouldn't be sending lambs to the slaughter like that.  They would've at least had a fighting chance.  If I'm going to die, give me the chance to die while fighting to protect myself and others.  Why should the criminals be the only ones who can arm themselves?   This is a very heated topic 'round these parts where it seems they want to take our right to protect ourselves away at every corner. 


Didn't one of our fellow MTs on this board here have a daughter who got into some serious doo-doo at her school for having pepper spray on her keychain?   Explain to me how THAT makes sense to punish a kid, or parent, for wanting to give them a fighting chance and protecting themselves. 


Honestly, I think teachers should
refer to students, no matter how old they are, by their first name, always.
Just to avoid misundertandings, like this one!
But teachers often have to use own money to pay for supplies
ujk
Most teachers have at least one planning period when they
can grade papers. If their job requires work-related hours away from school, they are given comp time.
underpaid teachers - what a joke!
I agree that teachers have all this extra work they have to do in their own time, but don't forget about all the paid time off they demanded; spring break, Christmas break, plus the fact that they get most of the summertime off with pay. I think that more than makes up for the extra time they have to put in while school is in session. I have a friend who is in the highest paying school district in Ohio and upon retirement, he and his wife will both be making 80K plus on their pensions. What's so god awful about that!!!!! Winning 10K may not be so great either by the time they pay taxes on it and add it to their income, possibly kicking them into a higher tax bracket. That can be considered a good or bad winning.
Yes, compliments and gifts are the better way, especially with teachers!..
Also, I think your child will not want that you pick a fight with his/her teacher.
Some very dedicated teachers and low paid...
like firemen, police, military who risk their lives for really low pay unlike people with extreme salaries like sports or movie stars.
My sister and her husband are both teachers in Atlanta and -
The word is that many teachers will pass kids out of their current grade just to get rid of them. They tell me the biggest fear of the teachers is to have to teach the same problem child twice! They also say that some parents INSIST that their child be passed no matter what. So sad because it is the children who suffer!
Not many teachers just "work" during the hours school is in
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Agree. Teachers of future generations should be better
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It is NOT the teachers place to tell a child that Santa doesn't
yeah I just might sue as well!
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.

We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.

I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.


Yes, they do. 10-month teachers make more than 9-month
teachers. I know that for a fact. One of my sisters was a 9-month, one is a 10-month. They are compensated for working more scheduled hours.
My teachers did this from 1st grade through 12th grade. nm
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wish I'd thought of that...
EXCELLENT POST!  By far the most intelligent one of the whole thread... to you and MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Just a thought sm
www.tasteofhome.com has recipes for the category "cooking for a crowd".  There are some wonderful recipes there.  They are tested by these wonderful cooks before printed in their magazine.  Their site is pretty user friendly, colorful, and fun.  I love to cook (as well as type) lol! 
That is what I thought
also but some people throw things out, like I just saw this on a television show as the truth and I am saying, hold on.... This is something I have heard for years and I mean years, much longer than most efflux of drug users around now days. Thanks for the information.
Just a thought..............sm
A vet of ours down in Florida suggested this to anyone having this problem. She said to wipe the dog OR cat down with a damp cloth.....now there are wipes in the pet section for this. She said the dander on their hair is causing the reaction and if this is done daily, it will keep them from shedding dander that is causing the allergy. There was a spray you could buy in the pet section to damper their coat and then wipe it down, but the wipes have the lanolin stuff on them now. I buy those and wipe down our cat of 18 years, who my daughter said was NOT causing her stuffy nose......he slept on her bed every night. I didn't find the wipes until a few years ago, but she had moved away to college by then....all stuffiness disappeared.
I thought about that too, but
family court records are sealed and it is in another city with the plantiff listed as the State. Hey, if they want to come get me, it would be another interesting war story and another reason to ask for back child support from the dud to help me get out of jail. huh! Gotta find something to laugh about :)
another thought
Babies for adoption instead.. great but remember there are millions of children in the world who need a family Maybe not a baby but a child nonetheless.

Could you look one of these children in the eye and tell them you don't want them, you want a baby?
Here's a thought for you ....sm
make a donation to a charity in their honor. Most charities will not reveal the amount you donated but will send them a card stating a donation was made. You can give what you're comfortable with... $5, $10, whatever.


When we got married last summer we elected to not receive gifts as we were giving away and selling items that were surplus from merging our 2 separate homes. We did advise that family and friends who desired to do something for us could make a donation to a local children's home and many of them did. We talked to the children's home ahead of time so they'd know what we were doing and they were very appreciative of the generosity that people extended. They sent us a list of who contributed money so we would know who to send thank you cards to (they did this also) but never divulged the amounts given which we didn't want to know anyway. This allowed people who desired to give something to do this and we weren't stuck with extra stuff we didn't need around the house.

LOL - another thought.
All my animal children understand "HEY" and "uh oh" and my favorite "Ok now you're in trouble."

Of course they don't understand English, but they sure remember TONE.

My cats destroyed my leather sofa, too - and yes those late night attacks are hard to prevent. Suggestion: If you can afford it, get an inexsensive couch cover that you can cover the couch with whenever... if anything gets destroyed it will be the cheap cover
Oh, thought you mean like I have done now
with my maiden name and the married ones that is a total of 5 now. Last one, I promise.
lol thought for a sec you were my ex! That's
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I thought...
It was overall good, made me tear up some when Victor spoke.  Didn't really expect any excitement, think it's too early for Nick to return. I feel for Phyllis (I know...)...but I can't help it...can't wait til next week.....
Another thought!
Back in high school girls like here were likely to get a "swirly." There was one friend (right) who decided that my boyfriend (now my husband for a very long time) was just what she needed - he was older, had a new car, money, took me on nice dates. She did the same stuff and he "fell for it" and we argued and broke up for a couple of days or so over her. She made a bad mistake and taunted me with it at school. She didn't realize that his brother (she didn't know him) and his other brother's girlfriend were listening. They ratted her out. She got mad and tried to intimidate me. She even slapped me! That did it, faster than I could think, I grabbed her hair, dragged her into the girl's bathroom, stuck her head in and FLUSHED. She never bothered anyone else with her boyfriend stealing ways for the rest of high school, although I don't know if that continued on. So, if you have to, go ahead and FLUSH! My grown up daughter is sitting here laughing because she can't believe I would do such a thing. I have become more human to her! I have fond memories of the look on that girl's overly made up Barbie-face with melting mascara and her overly sprayed hairdo clumped up on her head!!
I thought that too but.....

 I also thought with this house the city would be more forgiving of Dh farm stuff parked around then they would in the nicer neighborhoods. 


Another question is, in my neighborhood there have been some nice new brick homes pop up during the 8 years we have lived here.   Directly behind us someone is building a huge Victorian.  It is going to be beautiful.   Would that make our property value go up as well? 


That is exactly what I thought of. Sorry.
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Just a thought

Adorable boy he is!


Before you invest in the rug, if it is not necessary, you might consider puppy shoes or boots.  They do make some with rubber bottoms if you are creative you might try making some out of the rubber matting, spongey stuff they line cabinet and drawers with, almost like the rubber matting to keep rubs from sliding.  Or you could even get a pair of booties with the anti-skid stuff like they issue at hospitals and make them.   The attached URL has fleece in this but you can get them without.


My friend...mommy of my grandpuppies...had this same issue with thier dogs.  She put little booties on hers and it worked for them.


I thought so too, but
last time I posted the site it must have looked like an ad or something, because it was removed. But it's not my site and I'm not advertising for them; I just think it's really cool that they have a thing where you click boxes with the conditions of your site and it will suggest groundcovers that might work! And then just all the pictures can give you great ideas. My MIL is near the beach, so her soil is sandy and it's very expensive to try to keep grass going. Ones like thyme and some others use almost no water and abolutely no chemicals. Cheap to keep!
Another thought on IBS sm
Do you take a lot of ibuprofen?  My IBS was pinpointed to ibuprofen intake for arthritis. Took about 7 years and 2 colonoscopies to figure that out. I have other medical issues as well, so they didn't really look into ibuprofen at first. Finally, after I had changed jobs, going from inhouse to home transcription due to the stress inhouse, I kept a log of everything I took in for 3 weeks, including meds. I found I had the severe diarrhea bouts (up to 10+ times per day) on the days I took the ibuprofen. My doctor switched me to Relafen for inflammation and darvocet for pain and I probably only have 4 bouts of IBS a year now.
Just a thought...
but if you have been fortunate enough to strike up a more personal relationship with another poster, why not take it to e-mail or phone calls, which would be infinitely more personal and, I would think, much less of a hassle, for both of you.  I think it's great that you've found a lot in common, like your animals, but why set yourselves up for harrassment if you don't have to?
I thought I was the only one......!
This happened to me a few years ago, I would just nod out while driving. Fortunately a slight bump in the road or going up a curb :( would wake me. I had to stop driving for a while of course. It turned out it was a side effect from Prozac I was tried on for situational anxiety/depression. Hope your daughter's friend gets to the bottom of it. It's a very scary feeling.
I always thought...
It wasn't proper to take gifts to the wedding, think I read this in Ms. Manners or something like that.  It's a wedding, not a shower or a party, so no gifts...I think anyway! I'm in the same boat though, having missed the shower and invited to the wedding too.  Also have another wedding a week later, then yet another at the end of September...which I am sure all will have some sort of shower. 
Just a thought

If you have not found a solution, please consider going to the link below, pet peoples place and go to the community tab at top or the dog forum.  It may open to the forum, if so to the left under Browe Forums click start a new discussion. 


I'm not sure what state you are in, but there are some great folks on there that will let you know what the laws are in your area and will let you know pretty quick.  Usually you can call anonimously but in some states you can get in trouble for actually going and stepping in.  As an animal lover I commend you, some people just don't care.


that's a thought but
i don't want to be worrying about head lice. that would be a horrible mess.
I thought about doing it that way too (sm)
Do you keep a chore chart to keep track of payments?
i always thought
that i felt that way because of my catholic upbringing. i always feel that way. guess i'm not alone. right there with you.
Thanks - I thought so too and
how true it is! Life is soooo short in the scheme of things.
Yes but never thought that way, did she have
any symptoms such as mine- the intense rib cage pain? Have never considered it being gallbladder, what are symptoms- oh I have heard some, problems after fatty foods which I do not eat and forgotten other symptoms.
That was my first thought but
afraid I would get bar-b-qued for it. LOL
You know, I thought about that

I was wondering if I could rig something up so that he was suspended from a sling and put wheels on it so that he would just have to move his legs a little bit to move around.


So far things are okay. We got one of those doggie "playpens" that is made of wire and open on the top and put his bed in it. It's roughly about 4' square, roomy for a small dog but he can't move around too much. It was hard tonight hearing him whimper because he could smell what my husband was cooking for dinner and he wanted to be in there where the good smells were.


But I'm trying to remind myself - if we keep him quiet and his ligaments and tendons have a chance to heal a bit, he will be able to move around better. Sometimes it's a choice - healthy or happy? And I need to choose "healthy" for him right now.


That is exactly what I thought also!
Lets see, Dan ??? How soon we forget.
What a sad thought. nm
!
that is a thought
that's a thought. . though daughter had not liked that idea earlier - she just seems content with me having the ashes in my house! I suppose I just need to force her to make some kind of decision. . of course, it is a touchy subject, especially around the holidays... Actually, the ashes in the house do not bother me at all but it makes my fiance uneasy. . .
Oh okay. Thanks-thought
I had heard it was vitamin D. So, zinc will help your hair grow? Nails are no problem for me. They grow fine, just not the hair! It is probably about 2-3 inches below shoulders and won't go any farther
Here's a thought.
Do you think that in school, your daughter may be asking for help a lot? Sometimes if children are nervous or are having a bit of difficulty adjusting to a new situation, they may be a bit more needy in that situation than they are at home. Maybe she's asking the teacher for help when papers have to be put in a folder, or at other times throughout the day. The teacher may be reading that as if she is a child who is not used to doing things for herself, but it could just be her way of adjusting to a new situation and trying to connect with her teacher.

Rather than going in ready to argue, just call the teacher and ask to have a conversation with her to find out how your daughter is doing in school generally.

I can tell you lots of stories about good and bad teachers I've had to deal with over the years. I have to be honest, however. Most of the times when I my first reaction was anger and defensiveness, there was something that I didn't know AND something that the teacher had assumed. It's best to sort that out before getting too ruffled.