All the vets I ever worked with had their cats declawed.
Posted By: nm on 2007-07-26
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When I worked for vets, they and staff always disclosed
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And I think cats would rather be declawed than
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Getting your cats declawed in my opinion
is inhumane. I would really reconsider it. They have caps that you can buy, relatively inexpensive and last for awhile, that you put on their nails. You glue them on over the nails. You can even do a color scheme in them if you like, pink, etc.
There are too many alternate ways out there to deter cats than declawing
We had our 2 indoor cats declawed, too.
They never go outside either and they both have done fine since.
Never declawed any of the dozen cats I have had over my lifetime - sm
It is rare, in my opinion, that a cat cannot be trained to claw in appropriate places and not on furniture, etc. Are you providing good places for the kitty to claw, such as a nice scratch post (mine really love the sisal rope kind)? They also love those simple cardboard inserts that are in the Turbo Trackers and the Alpine Scratcher. When I get a new kitty I direct them to the appropriate places to claw and lavish praise. These acceptable places need to be some place you pass by often because the kitty wants you to be there when they are good. Mine run to the scratching posts because they know I am going to lavish praise on them. :-) If they claw somewhere they are not supposed to I immediatly squirt them with a water bottle set to stream. Something called a Scat Mat also keeps them away from the inappropriate places should they want to test you further. I have had young kittens, adult cats, you name it, and not a single one of them could not be trained to scratch where appropriate. I also have nice furniture (even leather). I would only declaw after I had exhausted all other options and it was a choice between that and giving up the cat. Just my two cents, for what it is worth. :-) Let us know what you decide. Best of luck!!
Cats declawed front only can still climb trees and
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My brother's declawed cats have a great life
They stay indoors, they are spoiled rotten, they are happy cats. There are 4 of them, all adopted at different times, and you couldn't ask for more sociable content kittehs.
Having worked with feral cats for many years, best bet is
to get a have a heart trap and catch the cat, go straight to the vet for testing, neutering/spaying, the isolate in a single room and try to start to working with it. It already knows your voice and you are a source of food which is a start. It does take time though, and there are those that just never really come around, but it is worth a try.
vets
I have asked many a vets over the years if they disclose to the owner what exactly is entailed in the procedure, and they all have responded no they do not, so what does that say about vets! "First do no harm", guess that excludes them. Can you imagine going in for a mastectomy and them not telling you what it entails, I think not, big money maker for them.
I think I would consider changing vets, too-sm
after this, as it is not wise to give a cat just dry food. They need the wet food to keep from getting dehydrated. Dry food does not contain everything they need to maintain good health as they have mostly grain and no true meat products. Check with other vets. This one sounds a little too pushy and has a large ego. JMO
my mother's vets have always
done it for free, but I've never had one that did. Going rate around here is about 75 unless you want cremation or disposal. The vet that came to my house only charged 75 and took my baby with him. He was a mobile vet and pays no overhead for rent. Such a great service as taking a cat to the vet is such a stressful experience and I did not want it to be his last.
Vets here favor Frontline Plus
I think it's because of our warm climate meaning we have more of one or the other to deal with. I can't remember which way it is, but each vet we've been to here has preferred Frontline Plus. I'd ask your vet.
my vet told me and other vets have confirmed
that dying cats purr and even cats in a lot of pain will purr. Really devastated me at one time when I was trying to convince myself my cat was not in pain. Cats are also sometimes very stoic and it makes it very difficult to discern how much pain they are in.
I declawed one and not another.
I took in a kitten back in 1985. She was a big-time scratcher and ruined all my drapes, tore up two sofas, and a door jam. Nothing I did, no alternative scratching areas kept her from tearing up my furniture and climbing up my draperies. I was on the verge of giving her up. Instead, when she was about a year old, I had her declawed. I could tell that it was a different feeling for her, but she adjusted very quickly. She ended up living to the ripe old age of 20 in our house, doing no damage and very loved.
After she died, we took in another kitten from a rescue organization. This one is not declawed, but she has a totally different personality. She is very submissive, very sweet. She never puts out her claws for anything other than stretching briefly in sunspots on the floor. I keep her claws trimmed, and she is satisfied with that. Had she been an incorrigible scratcher like her predecessor, I would have had this cat declawed, too. I can offer a lifetime safe and loving home to cats, but I don't want my things torn up. So I really don't have any problem with declawing when necessary.
My first cat was declawed (sm)
because I lived at home with my mom and he was tearing up her 2-year-old custom-made curtains.
I had it done, stayed at home with him and babied him for a few days, and once he healed, did not seem to realize he didn't have them. He "scratched" the rest of his life with his nubs.
I wasn't going to declaw the second cat, but the first one was "scratching" everything and I guess she couldn't figure out why he could and she couldn't. I did notice, however, that her recovery time was longer (Cat #1 had it done pretty young).
Many years later, we got a kitten when cat #2 was about 11 years old. Cat #2 didn't do much scratching by then, and we were able to train Cat #3 not to scratch. We now have another clawed cat, adopted at age 5. He's a bit of a nuisance with his scratching, but it's not to the point where I'd have to do something. If it gets worse, I'll try the nail caps.
IMO it's a very individual thing between cat and owner. And I agree, I think it's better to do that than to subject the cat to abandonment, if that's the only negative behavior involved.
Most vets donate services for shelters. I think they
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I think cats look beautiful - love pics of cats
They can also be he!! on wheels to live with and a major PITA.
I say this as my dog is barking at a leaf blowing by the front door.....
I declawed a cat and wish I hadn't.
Got new couch. Got new cat. Cat scratched couch. Declawed cat. DH out of work 4 months on disability, made sense to get a puppy, right? Not to the declawed cat, who lost her mind and started urinating in our bed. Also, she could not exercise properly when she couldn't hook those claws to climb, grab toys, etc.
Had to have mine declawed..
I have a Siamese who is very, very...did I mention very stubborn. She started destroying my couch, chairs, etc. I tried all the tricks mentioned below, spray bottle, stomping feet, yelling, double-sided tape, etc., and nothing worked. It just made her more determined to go after my furniture.
So, I eventually broke down and made an appointment for her to be declawed. It did not make her anymore aggressive, mean, etc. She got over the procedure within a couple of days and was fine after that. In fact, she still makes the scratching movements or tries to scratch the furniture years later except she's not ruining anything anymore.
I only got the front paws declawed, and it wasn't too terribly expensive (a lot cheaper than replacing furniture for sure). She is an inside only cat obviously, so we don't have to worry about her needing to defend herself outside or I obviously wouldn't have had this done.
She has had no problems either with behavior or medically since having this done 5-6 years ago. She is a spoiled and quite content cat who still thinks she rules the house front claws or not. So, basically she's happy, and we are happy to not have our house trashed.
I just adopted a declawed cat
who was abandoned. she looks like she has no toes, with floppy little hair tufts and going the wrong directions. Like other poster said, she does not cover her stuff in the litter box (maybe feels she cannot manage it) and her attitude is so defensive to the other cats, even after a month, and i wonder if it isn't because she feels so defenseless. I sure would not do it to a cat.
Maybe she is defensive because she was declawed
And being approached by possibly feral cats, no wonder she is wary of your other cat. I wonder if she just doesnt have litter box issues, regardless of being declawed. Maybe bad litter habits are what got her put out. I just think her being declawed may not have anything to do with her issues. Maybe, but, IMO, pobably not.
I agree also, change vets...ours put our dog on meds immediately. nm
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Well Hoorah for the Vietnam vets/Harley riders--sm
As badly as they were treated when they came back from their war, it is heartwarming to know that they will still support the soldiers fighting in this war! I am glad they are there for these poor families!
I have put down several pets and buried at home; vets will provide a box
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I have mine declawed, never again. I had leather
furniture that he was ruining (he had 32 claws) so I had him declawed. He went outside to sit on the front porch in the sun occasionally. Two dogs killed him because he couldn't climb a tree. He was the sweetest, beautiful Himalayan mix, talked to me all the time.
5-HTP worked much better for me.
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It worked!
I'm not as dumb as I look.
It worked!
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Here is what I did and it worked.
When accidents occurred indoors, I never scolded unless I saw the crime. I would take the paper towel that I used to clean it up and go to the area in the yard where I wanted him to "go." After a week or two, the area was marked with the scent and the dog, when outside, concluded that was his area to go potty. Soon enough, he chose that area to do his business.
When I did catch him, I took him directly to the area in the yard which was the potty.
They catch on eventually. Be consistent and don't scare him.
What worked for me -
I lost 20 pounds doing low carb 4 years ago and have kept it off by watching refined carbs. I have always exercised and continue to do so. I like *Yourself Fitness* because the workout is different every single time. Best of luck!
It worked!
He looks like a sweet cat my in-laws once had when I first married their son. He was left outside, was intact, flea-ridden and battle-scarred but a sweet boy. Loved to have his head scritched. He lived a long time for an outdoor cat.
It worked for me.
I learned something also. I did not know that the more you weigh, the more calories you burn doing the same thing, interesting. Thanks.
Thank you T...My DH worked his way...
up to six figures (yes, the low end). You are right when you say some people think that is a lot of money when sometimes it is just enough to get by on for some people. We are fortunate and have made it a point to be debt free. We will not be a slave to the lender, working only to make payments on meaningless things. There is no reason for the catty remarks and jealousy. Some women are just bitter about life, and if that is the case figure out how to make it better. Life is too short to be unhappy.
What we did, which worked -sm
Same story here, except sometimes the dog would actually get out from under the fence and commence to follow us around our yard and bark when our neighbors were not home. My husband finally went over there one night to ask them if there was any way at all they could stop their dog from barking nonstop. They said they knew it barked and were very sorry it was bothering us. It stopped for about 6 months and then began happening again. Hubby then wrote a short note and placed it next to their mailbox, all the time stating we wanted to remain good neighbors with them but would very much like to be able to enjoy our own yard without hearing their huge dog barking all the time. It never happened again after that, going on 2 years now. No problems at all with them. Sometimes, it seems, people are very clueless or careless until you mention it to them. Try saying something in person. You may be surprised in a good way. Best of luck!
What worked for me
Tempting though it is, you don't want to reward timid or frightened behavior by giving affection then.
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/tips/basics_affection.php
Thunder is a lot like fireworks:
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/editorials/editorial_23.php
When I have detected nervous energy in any of my dogs during storms, I just started playing a favorite game of theirs to distract them. The noisier and more rambunctious the game, the better. The breeds I've had are not particularly sensitive to noise, I admit, but I learned with Sasha that all I had to do was play growly bump (her own game she taught me) to take her mind right off a storm.
If this worked then....(sm)
Go to image link
Hit *click here to upload image*
This will pull up another screen that lets you browse for the pic
Hit *submit* and then *continue.*
If there is no pic below this, then never mind....ROFL.
What has worked for me - sm
Hey, I literally feel your pain! Sometimes it feels as if I am sitting on a huge nail on my right buttock. Look up stetches online for sciatica. Like others have said, it really does help. I also get chiro adjustments and get a sports massage every other week, so I can continue to sit in my chair. Hope you find some relief!
worked at an
less expensive places gave the food they were going to throw out to employees, however the expensive place I worked at was 20% discount only.
What has worked for both me and my husband...
Lower your carbs starting NOW. Eat plenty of protein, along with a little fat at each meal, to keep you full. Do not drink your calories. Stay away from ALL refined carbs until you get where you want to be and then really keep them low because most of them are plain old not good for you anyway. Never allow yourself to feel *starving* because your body goes into a mode where it holds onto fat and the amount of calories you burn really drops down. Also, you have GOT to exercise, no way around that. Get moving EVERY single day, no excuses. Following these rules has allowed me to keep off the 20 pounds I had put on from never moving out of my chair (typing ALL day) over 5 years ago. Just had my blood work done and it is EXCELLENT. Good luck to you! :-)
What has worked with my hubby -
Men want to be fed. They want REAL food. To them, that means meat. I take hubby to Longhorn that night, he orders a big steak, potato, veggies, salad, etc. I also buy him some silk boxers with hearts on them and, well, you can guess the rest! He usually gets me candy and flowers, but he is always very surprised and happy when I do things for him this day. Good luck! :-)
Glad it worked for you!
I had those shots from the pain clinic before they put me on the narcotics, but they made me way worse. I will never ever have them again. I'm really glad they worked for you though. I tried all sorts of things before going to heavy duty pain meds, but nothing worked, and I wasn't functioning at all. I looked and felt like I was 80 or more even though I just turned 30. Now, I'm on a 50-mcg fentanyl patch with oxycodone 10 mg for breakthrough pain (along with other nonnarcotic meds) and occasionally using a TENS unit.
I still don't function at 100%, probably more like 60% to 70% on a good day, but at least that's better than where I was.
I hope the conservative measures continue to work for you, but if they don't, please don't let anyone tell you to learn to "live with it." I went through that for a few years, and trust me, it's no life.
Best of luck to you!
Actually, I worked for a PC company
a long time ago supervising the commercial aspect. They always tell you that, but they can and do die in walls. We were sent out many times to cut them out after people insisted on using poison.
The best advice that I can offer is that once you get rid of them, you seal off any areas where they can get back in. If you don't do that, then you will continue to have problems.
Now rats instead of mice, I don't know what to tell you to do if they are eating through the walls!
Me personally though, I had a rat as a pet. In fact, we had to put her to sleep about a month ago.
The foil worked! Thank you so much! nm
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When I worked as a nurse (sm)
There was this CNA who would open up the windows every time someone would die. I thought she was kooky (for many reasons), but she said it was to release the spirit of the person.
I'm not superstitious, but I won't eat beans more than 3 days in a row.
I know and have worked with several doctors
Actually as a Transcriptionist I was glad because so many times you'd get Dr. Smith (if they got married, then which one?) Well, if they keep their maiden name or at least hyphenate it that made my life a lot easier. I think it also may have something to do with the fact that if they are in practice, everything must be changed and imagine the expense? Also if they are well known, they maybe do not want to jeopardize that. As long as the couple is happy, and he is not offended, I think it is just fine. Congratulations! I would address the letter Drs. April Cox and Richard Grant. JMO.
Worked around this before in cytology
and abnormal cells can also be due to an infection, just like it can be related to malignancy but I would take the lower end first. If it were me, I would definitely want follow up just to make absolutely sure the next Pap would be okay.
if the original had actually worked,
would not have had a problem with the scars. They are on the inner part of the arm, of course, as you probably know and unless I turn my arms upwards, sideways, would never know. I do not wear short sleeved blouses but it is not for that reason, for the fact my upper arms never changed any at all. Like Oprah, I have the bat wings.
I have worked on-site, but I'd have
to disagree with the fact that the typists are not taken seriously is due to the fact that it is a work from home position. The big national companies took this from us. I was an on-siter, made fairly good money (hourly), will collect a pension, and had all of the benefits (which kept getting more expensive each year). I make plenty more here from my home being an IC with my own accounts. Once the hospitals and physicians began to know that there were companies they could call on the phone, dictate, and have no worries, they took them up on it. Why should they pay benefits when the transcription companies could alleviate this expense. No worries right? No vacations to pay. No sick time to pay. No workers' compensation claims to pay for carpal tunnel or back injuries. I still feel that we are professionals. There are actually work-at-home Moms that are note typists, but have made a nice business for themselves. The work-at-home thing is a trend for parents to take hold of their finances and still run the household. I know it is not for everyone, but times are a changing. This computer age has really taken a hold of the economy. The media has really taken a hold of our children. My Mom would tell me about how they show so much more now on TV about the war then they would have ever in the past. We were saved from all the guts and blood. Those days are over. It is a dog-eat-dog world out there now, but I can say there are a lot positives. Virtual assistants are all the go... enjoy the ride!!! LOL - Take care!
I think my mom worked at Kresgies
right out of high school for a short time. Wasn't that like a five and dime department store? My aunt used to say my mom spent her check before she had it. They closed Kresgies before I was born so I don't remember it at all,but the building is still there and they have renovated part of the downtown where Kresgies was with a theme on Warner brothers as the city was the first place they filmed.
OH THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH!!! IT WORKED!!! SM
i'm going to write that down so i'll remember. hopefully it won't happen again. i told 5 y/o stick to playstation!
thank you so much!!!!
When I worked in an MD's office,
this was discussed a lot. We identified 3 factors:
1. The rare but memorable mothball smell where people put on their best duds to see the MD, but they are from 1952, and have been stored in mothballs.
2. Corn starch powder, which has a very musty smell to my nose.
3. Rose water perfume. Everybody in the office would be nauseated when one of these ladies would come in.
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