All of the above, plus killing a spider

• time for another survey - mting
  • Nah, and I NEVER pass on those round robin letters for good luck, money, love, etc. if passed on in - the next 6 mins. ONLY! LOL..nm
  • If someone gives you a knife or scissors, you must pay one penny for it...nm - jade
    • knife or scissors - typing
  • I'm not - but here's one - taxydeer
    • When I worked as a nurse (sm) - Apple Scruff
  • No unburned candles in my home - all lit at least once - supposed to bring bad luck - NM
    • same here, gotta burn those wicks!. nm - jade
  • No. Never have been for some strange reason. - nm
  • Not at all... - LinK
    • bothered - mt
      • All of the above, plus killing a spider - sm
        • Hold on, can you or can you not kill a spider? - Sara
          • Supposedly killing a spider - sm
      • nope. not in the least. sm - nn
  • no. not superstitious at all. nm - nn
  • Yes, mine are - Beth

The messages you are viewing are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select the boards given in left menu

***UPDATE*** The Associated Press reveals more details about the shooter:

The suspect had been disarmed after an earlier incident at the center but returned with another weapon, according to a senior military official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation into the shootings was ongoing.

***UPDATE*** The American soldier who shot dead five fellow soldiers at a U.S. base in Baghdad is in custody.

"The shooter is a US soldier and he is in custody," US marine corps lieutenant Tom Garnett, a US military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters.

The New York Times adds some perspective to the tragedy:

The killings appeared to be the worst case of soldier-on-soldier violence among the American forces based in Iraq since the invasion more than six years ago.
The shootings, which took place at a stress clinic, highlight the problem of post-traumatic stress disorder among U.S. soldiers, notes the Guardian:

Stress is one of the biggest killers of US soldiers in Iraq. About a fifth of all US troops are thought to be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, contributing to high divorce and suicide rates. An estimated one fifth of the 4,292 members of the US force in Iraq have died from non-combat causes, either in accidents or from suicide.
***UPDATE*** According to Fox News, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs Monday relayed President Obama's response to the tragedy. Obama expressed shock and sadness and is promising to fully investigate what exactly transpired at Camp Liberty, so as to prevent such incidents in the future.

***UPDATE*** AP has another update. The shooting was at a 'stress clinic':

Pentagon officials say five Americans are dead after a U.S. soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad. They say the attacker is in custody.

The officials say the shootings happened on Camp Liberty at a stress clinic, where troops can go for help with the stresses of combat or stress from personal issues.

One senior military official in Washington says it's unclear whether those killed are workers at the clinic or were there for counseling. He says officials also are unsure whether all the dead are members of the military.

***UPDATE*** ABC News reports that the U.S. soldier who attacked fellow troops on a U.S, base in Iraq has killed five of them and is now in custody. Initial reports suggested that he had turned the gun on himself after his rampage.

***UPDATE*** AP now reports that the U.S. soldier who went on a rampage against his fellow troops in Iraq may have survived the incident:

Pentagon officials say five U.S. soldiers are dead after an American soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad.

The officials say the shootings happened Monday at Camp Liberty near Baghdad's airport.

One senior military official in Washington said it was not yet clear whether the shooter was among the dead. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the circumstances surrounding the deaths are under investigation.

Initial reports indicated the Army soldier shot several others, then turned the gun on himself. But it was unclear whether he, too, had died.

***UPDATE*** CNN reports that 3 other U.S. soldiers were wounded during the friendly fire incident that has left 5 U.S. troops dead. An American soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself.

According to the Washington Post, it is the single greatest loss of life in a single incident involving U.S. soldiers since a truck bomb last month took the lives of 5 American soldiers.

***UPDATE*** CNN has just sent out a breaking news alert reporting that senior defense officials have told the network that a US soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself. Check back for more information.

McClatchy is reporting that a shooting at a U.S. base in Baghdad has left 5 soldiers dead. The shooting occurred at Camp Liberty, a base near the Baghdad airport.

After two kids and long hours of standing on my feet in college working retail jobs, my have extensive spider veins on my feet and ankles, with some on my thighs and calves.  Besides being unsightly, can these lead to poor circulation?  Would treatment help or am I just doomed to have vascular disease

tia

After two kids and long hours of standing on my feet in college working retail jobs, my have extensive spider veins on my feet and ankles, with some on my thighs and calves.  Besides being unsightly, can these lead to poor circulation?  Would treatment help or am I just doomed to have vascular disease

tia

Wow, you know your spiders!  It was indeed a garden spider...Argiope.  Website does indeed say they are harmless but I don't believe that for a second!  Fangs were as huge as my head they were!

I just went out and documented the whole fiasco as best as I could...therapy really.  I found the spider and took a picture of "her."  Apparently only the ladies get this big.  As I was taking pictures, I found 3 more!!!  That's 1 spider per square foot!!  You can read about it here: http://www.perin.org/Residents/Ellie.html and just scroll down until you see "August 2007." 

I'm gonna go type now because it makes me feel safe.  Yep, 2 beers into me, nursing a third, and I'm hittin' the keys.  Should be interesting.