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Agree most don't abstain and teaching that only - sm

Posted By: on 2007-12-20
In Reply to: wow..your post makes me sad - cornfused

as a lot of schools do is very narrow-minded and totally unrealistic. I remember in 7th grade health class our teacher teaching us about different forms of birth control. They had it all laid out (no pun intended) on a board with an example of each method so we could actually see a condom, diaphragm, pill, iud, etc. No idea what they do there now, this was back in 77/78--I hope they are not burying their head in the sand and saying, "don't do it", and leaving it at that. Kids need to know that if they "do it" how to prevent becoming fathers/mothers at age 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, etc. Lots of peer pressure and some just have sex because their friends were. My friends were at 14 and generally had unprotected sex, one got pregnant at 15 but miscarried; I waited until I was almost 18 and after I graduated (the boys had big mouths and I did not want a reputation as a sleaze, which is what would have happened where I went to school). When mine start having sex I will put them on BCPs and hope they use condoms too (I will also tell them about my 2 best friends with herpes); and I hope they wait until they are at least 17 and ready for it and the responsibility of being sexually active. Guess I will find out in a few years. --as for the beginning of time, yes, the past is riddled with sex, just look at all the famous paintings, and stories of lovers, etc in England and France in royalty, etc. Goes back quite a ways


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Most won't abstain though, so you need

The truth isn't always pretty, but it's still the truth!  Yes, teenage sex has happened since the beginning of time and will continue to happen even if you wish it weren't so.  We just need to educate our kids about the dangers of it and encourage them to do it only with those they love and to ALWAYS use a condom no matter what.


This question willl certainly bring up a lot of flaming, I abstain, thank you...nm
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Since when is teaching the
Since hubby is lacking in consideration, empathy and manners towards his wife, he needs to be taught via "do as you wish to be done by".  It is too easy for him to discount her feelings until HE feels the same way, then he'll be able to relate and maybe some house rules can be set as to property.  Without any understanding of how shocked and hurt his wife feels, he'll just continue to play the nice guy to outsiders with her stuff and discount how it might hurt her.  And that is also damaging to the marriage, right?
I'm teaching myself how to
It's so hard to follow a pattern! Some of the things it says I'm not sure what it means. Is there a good website that could explain some of this stuff that you know of? Thanks
I do and I'm teaching them the morals
Show you the money!
Absolutely. Is teacher teaching sex ed also? nm
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I just KNOW ur all gonna say that teaching doesn't (sm)
pay well, either. It doesn't not in most cases. But with her skills, degree & experience, she quickly got into an unusual teaching circumstance where the pay was triple what most educators make, and later she went on to train and eventually supervise other teachers.
I am teaching an adult class sm
but will use this same lesson when we start back with our weekly youth meetings in the fall. I got the idea for this lesson from Fannie Flagg's book Can't Wait to Get to Heaven. The book is obviously fiction but has a "quirky" (most all the characters in the book are quirky-think Mayberry) person's take on heaven when she dies for just a short time and visits heaven. The book is a wonderfully funny read (just a few swear words but it is very clean). I have read all of her books and thoroughly enjoyed them all. Thank you for responding.
No, it is an inferance and any teaching of religion -sm
should be done by the parents. I had my kids in private school up until 2 years ago, took them out for several reasons, one being that many of the teachers were teaching about God and making them pray before every meal (snack and lunch). I was paying $12K a year for my kids not to be in a church school, as this was not a religious school (or at least not supposed to be). I could have sent them to many, many cheaper schools in the area but they were all church affiliated. Some of us don't want our kids to be taught by others. I explain all the different religions to my kids, but don't want some outsider to teach their beliefs to my child. It is not their business to teach religion, if they want to do that then become a minister and run a church.
The homophobics and racists are ALREADY teaching
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Anyone have tips on teaching ESL child to read? (sm)
I have been volunteering at my children's school once a week helping some of the children in my daughter's 2nd grade class practice reading.  The children having the greatest problems are the English Second Language children and I have been working more with them, but one child in particular needs help and the teacher and I have decided that I should dedicate more time to him.  In his home, his parents speak Spanish (he tells me) and he has two younger siblings. He is a very sweet, very popular child at school.  The problem is he doesn't even recognize all the letters in the alphabet yet, even though he has been through kindergarten and first grade (how has he passed?).  Trying to teach him the sounds that correspond to the alphabet has also been difficult, because he does not know the names of common objects/animals used to teach children alphabet sounds.  For example, we have been making an alphabet book, cutting pictures out of magazines and gluing them to the page with the corresponding letter at the top of the page.  He calls all large animals "elephant" and cannot remember from one week to the next that the "D" animal on his page is a "dinosaur" and not an elephant.  He confuses letters like "e" with "n" when he is writing the name of the animal (with me dictating the spelling to him).  I want to help this child so badly, but I dont' know where to begin.
teaching kids to take responsibility for their actions
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So tired of parent teaching kids it is always other
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Need tips on teaching husband to be frugal..sm

Here is the situation...for quite some time I have been trying to be more frugal and really watch my spending and our money.  It seems my husband is doing the total opposite.  I asked him while at the store to get some fabric softener for the laundry.  He gets an $8.00 bottle and I know this store has Downy for $4.99.  To some people $3.00 may not seem like much, but over time it does add up.  We do not have the extra money that we used to and he thinks nothing of spending constantly.  I have said things to him and he does better for a little while, but then it gets out of control.  I had to convince him that he had to get a part-time job because we were sinking fast as he changed jobs and took and major pay cut. 


He even asked me today after stating he wanted to go get something from the store why are we broke?  I said we are not totally broke, but we do not have the extra money to splurge either.  I go days without spending money.  Yes I work at home, but I do have to spend money on gas now because our oldest daughter started school this year.  Her lunch is $1.75 a day, but most days she wants to take her lunch box.  I am getting so frustrated with him.  I work two jobs myself as well as take care of the home and our kids (2).  I go to the grocery store and buy plenty of food (breakfast and lunch for him to take to work) and try to make sure that we are not going to the store just because, you end up spending way more money that way.  On the days he has to go to his part-time job he comes home before going to the part-time job.  I do not even see the real reason for coming home before going to the part-time job.  He is only home for 15-30 minutes before going to the part-time job.  The reason I think it is crazy for him to come home before going to his part-time job is the fact that it is 13 miles out of the way.  He is too old to break and too lazy to make the effort to change.  He is more about convenience. 


Some times I think if we were to split he really would not survive.  I handle all the money and frankly after 14 years I have come to the conclusion he has no money sense.  He says I nickle and dime him to death, but money in his pocket is money definitely spent.  He has to spend it or die and then looks pitiful when he is broke.  But guess what, I'm to the point where I do not even care when he does not have money because he should be more sensible.  Just as long as he has money for gas to go to work, forget carrying around money.  I feel like sometimes I am having to lie about money simply because if he knows it is there he finds a reason to spend it.  I told him he will never have anything because he just cannot learn to do without.


I guess I am finished fuming for now. 


BTW, there really is more to it than an $8.00 bottle of fabric softener, but over time it just builds....look for a bargain at least sometimes.


The world you're teaching them to live and survive in
seems to be a very cold, harsh one. I wonder if you're as hard on yourself when you make a mistake and "forget" something.
But this is not a school-wide accepted teaching practice, it is individual (nm)
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Our public school wasn't teaching phonics so we've moved....sm
our daughter to a private school that does. Before moving her she was barely able to read because the public schools were teaching them to "read" by looking at pictures and if they knew what the picture was they would know what the word was. For the life of me I don't understand how that's supposed to teach a child to read and I told the school board that in life you don't always have pictures for everything! Our daughter's reading improved immensely once we moved her to private school and she can read anything - without pictures. :o)
What an awesome post! I agree, agree, agree completely with you.
You are right on the money in my book! 
I agree, try to live in another country, then you will also agree...nm
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absolutement! Agree! Agree! Agree!
Why is it so hard to understand this?  HMOs are just middlemen who get everything balled up and costly!
I agree with you - not judging either but agree (nm)
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and I agree with you *nn* -

I agree......
I agree with everyone's reply here. Also--one more thing...DO NOT TOUCH THE RADIO/CD PLAYER WHILE DRIVING!! It was 17 years ago that one of my best friends was killed this way-very responsible girl, just did not think for that one moment.

I was a responsible teen, but my parents set strict rules on my driving. At the time, I did not understand but now that I have a 10-year-old son who keeps reminding me each year that he will be driving in __ years, I understand completely. If it were an option for us, I would keep my kids babies forever.

Another thing you can do, just to maybe ease your mind about driving is take her to the local police department and have them to show actual footage of accidents. I know that sounds pretty harsh, but it has saved a lot of kids lives in my surrounding area.

Hope this helps!!
wow - I sure do agree with you!!....sm

I would rather them be locked in a car driving than strolling or walking alone - In Florida - we have had MANY YOUNG KIDS killed (murder) by being alone walking to and from school.  My children are VERY responsible and pay for everything, except that car insurance (which is wayyyyyyyyy too much) which I offered to pay until age 28.  By the age of 28, they'll be earning more $$.  My OLD brother (and he's very old *LOL*) did this for his son until age 28 (think he's about 38 now) because of the exhorbitant insurance rates.  I decided to follow suit.  If we have it, why shouldn't we help them.  I'd rather help my children while I'M ALIVE AND KICKING rather than what they get when I die, IF there is anything to get *LOL*


Y'all have a GREAT day! 


Remember, we can all agree to disagree without being nasty and rude. 


and I so agree with you!!!.....sm

One of my children saved all the Xmas/holiday/birthday $$ ever received from toddler-hood so that at 17 had $6000+ and put it down on a BRAND NEW SMALL CAR, albeit I had to co-sign the balance.  Child did pay the rest off.  I too am very proud of the children who are  young still, one has worked for 10 years already (started off part-time at about 14 after school by own choice).


Yep, I want kids to hang out in multiple numbers today - never walking alone - too many CREEPS out there in the USA today and they are EVERYWHERE....really creepy to me.........


Let's sing out for the responsible good kids who are out there trying to live life in this messed-up world!!!! 


HOORAY FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!  They are our future and if we don't back them, well then we are up the creek without a paddle, right?   


I agree...
Don't be too quick to judge! Last I knew car seats can be moved from one car to another! It's so sad that a few rotten apples out there ruin it for the people who really need the help! Hope you are never in a situation where you may need a little help.
I agree
Hey, Chillie, I love what you said.  It's time somebody did.  All this political correctness crap is getting to the point where it really offends me.  And I'm SOMEBODY, TOO!!!  Thanks.
It all goes to what you agree to when you take the job
If you take the job knowing that it involves working the holiday or the night of or the night before then it is your obligation to do so.  That is the way of this trade.   Then the days following the holiday we are "dead" and everyone is yelling for work.  Kind of like the hospitals, the police, the fire department, the stores half the time -- we all know what is expected when we accept the job.  If you knew that it was expected of you when you said yes -- then I think it is your obligation to work.  If you have your own accounts or are an IC then you have the right to say no but don't complain when nothing comes your way the day or two after the holoidays.  I chose to have my own accounts and some are open the day after Thanksgiving and so what I pick up on late Weds has to be back by early Friday and so somwhere in that timeframe I have to get it done.  I might have a few more hours to do it but also have a family and life so will squeeze it in.   Then Friday I will have what was dictated on Weds and have to work on over the weekend.  So you see you are not alone but this has been the way since I have been doing this, close to 20+ years.  Before that when I worked in office/clinics we were never closed for the Friday after Thanksgiving, saw patients until 6 on Weds, back at 8 on Friday.  Anway got things to do.  Patti
I agree
I was in management also and I was lucky in that there were only a certain few MTs that were very stubborn about not working holidays or flat out refused. Most were willing to compromise, maybe do one major holiday and have off the other, or even put in a few hours of their choice. It is those who refuse to work all holidays that can mess things up for everyone. For if everyone refused, what then? I guess it would then have to become mandatory???? Exactly!
I agree with you...
Even if the story you were told is true, there's still something not right about the situation.  Best to make sure your daughter's not in any danger, I'd do the same thing!  Good luck...I feel for the other family though...how hard would that be?
I agree...

My husband is far from dispensable!  He's my best friend too.  He's a wonderful father, husband, son, brother, everything!  We've been married for almost 20 years and I love and need him more today than I did in the beginning.  Men are getting an unfair wrap here...although I completely sympathize with the OP.  That's her situation, though, not every marriage comes down to that.


Like I said before (and my post was deleted for some reason) I am looking forward to growing old with my husband...raising grandchildren...hopefully finally getting to travel.  I do believe the best has yet to come for us!


I 100% agree.
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I agree
My friend and I went on a sugar free diet - it lasted 2 days. After numerous trips to the restroom, we both finally came to the conclusion that it was the sugar substitutes. Go for Splenda... After removing sugar substitues we had no more problems.
I agree and not only that - what about the

actions speak louder than words - if he wasn't guilty he would've stuck around..........would have had nothing to run from if he was innocent......and that's another thing - in the case, he was NOT found NOT GUILTY - he was found innocent by a reasonable doubt....(pssst - cause he's still guilty)...LOL


if it looks like a horse, smells like a horse, acts like a horse, it is not a swan! 


RIP Ron and Nicole......


I agree sm
If you take hungry men a meal of sand covered with some cheese, they are gonna say it is great.  It was very funny to me too.  I am a country fair blue ribbon winner.  Of course they are not gonna say this tastes awful.  I make the best blue ribbon potato salad.  I mean really, if you take hungry men anything, they are not gonna tell your husband it was mediocore, hungry men will eat almost anything.
I agree with you...
Your original intention was to "feel" out how others felt about your situation. You never argued with anyone who replied earlier with anything but thanks. Log off now, and forget about the rants and raves. I hope you have a good evening.
I agree
I have never been big on that with my kids, never felt comfortable with it even when they were much younger. As ridiculous as it may sound, I can remember finding out there was no Santa and I was incredibly upset that my parents lied to me. Christmas is not about Santa. Still bugs me. haha.
I don't agree with your vet.
When I finally saw my dog going through a partial seizure, she was definitely scared and in pain. Afterwards she almost stopped breathing. Hers were caused by a tumor, but in a young dog like yours, it is almost certainly epilepsy. I have a friend whose dog has epilepsy with terrible seizures, and now he's on medication and only has 1 seizure a month. They are all much happier. If I were you I'd change vets because I'd be worried the seizures were causing brain damage.
I agree, but...
not everyone can multitask.  Fortunately, it is nice to be able to simultaneously do laundry and type at the same time.  No one should be sitting in front of a PC for 8 hours straight.  You have to get up and stretch, so why not switch the clothes from washer to dryer, or catch the news or have a cup of tea for a few minutes.  If you were inhouse, you would be at the water cooler.  Working at home is a privilege, but even people who work inhouse take advantage.  I have seen where fellow employees are taking personal phone calls, balancing their checkbook, making appointments, asking others opinions regarding personal issues, etc.  Lighten up!!!!  You will either be diligent or not off-site or not...  No one can type and clean at the same time, but it sure makes it easier to dust your living room, and then go type for a while....  Oh my!  That is why I love this board! 
I agree
For the first year or two I went to an accountant he was very helpful.  But then after  I realized that I was doing 80% of his work for him and I do understand taxes quite well, I bought Turbo Tax and for the past 10 to 12 years have used Turbo Tax.  You have to figure out how much sq ft your office is versus your house to find the percentage you get to take off for mortgage payment. utilities, etc.  Also he will let you know what the pros and cons are for depreciating your home.  Since I figure on dying here -- and not in the near future -- I have been using the depreciation.  If you use your car for any mileage related to your business, supplies, delivering, banking you can take that off.  Ask him about setting up a SEP fund -- self employment pension fund -- even if you only contribute 5 to 10% that helps to bring down what you pay SSN, every dollar helps.  Good luck, once he does it for you then you can use last year guidelines for how to do it.  
I agree 100%
I also suffered from HPV and had to endure 4 colposcopies as well as a LEEP procedure. If this had been available when I was younger, I would have gotten the vaccine. There is always risk to these types of things and it is a matter of personal preferance as to what you choose to do.
I agree. sm

And it was even worse in the days of pay toilets what we had to endure. 


 


I remember sitting there broken heated.


Paid a dime and only farted.


I agree as with the others

Definitely don't get tempted on the business trip, and if he wants you he needs to get rid of the other one. 


It is really easy to cheat on a business trip and come home to the wife/steady girlfriend like nothing happened (for some anyway).


I agree with everyone here and I have --sm
been in your shoes too, in the past. Only thing is that I was not mature enough way back then to keep business separate from *high school feelings* and the only one that got hurt was me. I felt not so bright in the head, and *cheap* afterwards.

He is still in his present relationship for a reason and since it seems so easy for this man to forget that, I would stay WAY clear of him! (gotten smarter in my old age). IF he leaves his present girlfriend, which I seriously doubt, then MAYBE, but also keep in mind that he was willing to step out of bounds on that relationship to see what could be done with you, and I would almost bet this is not the first time, so if things ever got serious between the two of you....how easy would it be for him to do it to you after 7 years or so?

It just seems so easy for a man to change his life like he changes his pants every day with no qualms about who he hurts in the process. Keep your dignity...don't do it. Just my 2 cents. good luck to you!
Agree with you

A lot of teens are going to have sex before marriage.  My 17-year-old daughter came to me last fall about wanting to go on the pill.  She is in her first serious relationship, so I took her.  I had a pregnancy scare in high school and it was not fun and I was very honest with her about that. 


My daughter is not getting the vaccine because it is too new and I don't think anyone knows the long-term problems that could come from it.  Hopefully by the time my daughter is having this discussion with her daughter, it will either have been proven safe or pulled off the market, but my daughter is not going to be a guinea pig.


I so agree!!!.......................nm
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I agree.
A broken heart can kill you, if not dramatically reduce your zest for life. I know a woman whose teenage son died of suicide. She still visits his grave everyday. This has been over 12 years ago. She said if it was not for her other other, she would have died.
Yes. I agree. nm
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And I agree with you...he's no....sm

He's no Judge Judy or Judge Millian (Marilyn) or Judge Mathis or any of them.....he seems to be merely an ATTENTION SEEKER.


Judge (*and I use the term JUDGE loosely here*) Larry Seidlin is a 3-ring-circus unto himself with his one-liners and cliches...remember folks, he is a former cabdriver in Bronx, NY and is exactly what he *sounds* like in the courtroom....chastising the attorneys, calling them/addressing them by state , i.e., *Texas...sit down*....or things to that effect...and yet taking every single momentary opportunity to push his OWN agenda, and what I mean by that is HOGGING THE SPOTLIGHT and CAMERAS!!!  He's nauseating!!! 


So, Irish Mom....GMTA (great minds think alike) !!!   


I agree
I think she purposely wanted to be buried as far away from her mother as possible and also keep Daniel away from her - can't say I blame her after everything I heard about her upbringing.  The reality is in my opinion than Anna Nicole is already with her son now somewhere in spirit.  The bodies are just empty shells.
yes jen, i agree
do not want husband/girlfriend in the same pkg.  well put.