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Again, about the English part, listen closely

Posted By: Bette on 2007-04-24
In Reply to: Well if it wasn't for this grandmother - none of these others would be here.

The mother of the groom is saying the grandmother is calling and giving threatening messages. I would not give a rats behind I would not want to even invite her if she cannot control her anger. It is THEIR wedding, not the grandmothers, not the mothers, but THEIRS. People send out messages by what they say- the mother says the grandmother is threatening. Why don’t you invite the grandmother somewhere??? Oh really sounds like someone I would like to come to my wedding, NOT!


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I think if you look closely she is correcting her own post, not criticizing the OP. nm
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bs. you didn't read her post very closely.
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Anyone with a printer deskjet know why it prints a page with part of it dark and part of it light.

It is not printing uniformly.


It's not the dancing part, it's the people part that I don't like. K? We clear now?
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English

My spouse and I feel that if you are immigrating into the US, you need to speak English. Of course as an MT I do not like my work being threatened by India (I previously worked in bank customer service, and my company there outsourced 3000 jobs to India and laid off all the US CSRs). My spouse grew up in Detroit which is now classified as a" dead city" with the highest unemployment rate and some of the lowest house values in the nation due to outsourcing of the auto companies to Mexico and many auto parts and steel are now made in Asia.


However, we may even learn Spanish. He is retraining in Nursery and Greenhouse Management and it just makes sense as that will help him manage the laborers.  if he ever owns his own biz, we will insist on legitimate papers for every worker.


You can transcribe between two languages from home, just like you do MT from home. Spanish does not pay as much as, say, Arabic (a language I strongly wanted to learn) but there is more demand for it and it is easier to learn for an English speaker (and if we all get lucky, our overseas Middle East involvement will cease and there will be no more need for transcription of Arabic to English. Somehow I don't think we will get that lucky).


What gets me is people who move here and still do not speak the language after 5 or 10 years!!!


I would not even visit another country as a TOURIST without studying the language for months ahead of time if there was not a lot of English spoken there, and I would study some of the indigenous language anyway. It's just a sign of respect.


I think it is going to be to our benefit to be bilingual but I don't see us ever not having at least some ambivalence about the people we speak it to (but I think we will meet some good people as well).


Mostly English but
My dad's family came to Pennsylvania in the early 1700s but my mom's family came in the late 1800s, one side from Ireland and the other from Germany/Poland. So while we speak English, we use various slang German and Polish words along with some Pennsylvania Dutch.

English
Immigrated in the 1600s.
The English Patient
What can I say except I adore Ralph?? :-) Sigh...
Press One For English
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0
English as a Second Language - nm
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When she asked if I spoke English, I would...
have said, "No, I don't, but thanks for asking" and hung up.
You do read English, correct?
It says the son does NOT want these people at his wedding. It is the son and the woman he is marrying, not the grandmother. HELLO!
And don't forget to press 1 for English - or is it 2?
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This is America. Learn English.
Why does this country make it so easy for them NOT to learn English?
This Is America. My grandparents who came from Italy learned English. They weren't "catered to" in Italian.
Now it's.... Press 1 for English 2 for Spanish.
Instructions to anything are given in both English and Spanish.
Signs all over are in written in Spanish.
We make it easy for them. Why should they learn English.
Because they spend money in this country. Is that why? They should make an effort to learn the language spoken here. JMO

Thoughts?
Not to mention when you try to make a service call, you get someone from India you can barely understand. Outsourcing, what a beautiful thing. NOT.

I teach English as a volunteer.
While there are immigrants here who do not choose to actively pursue learning the language via formal means, there are many who do. We have a waiting list of up to 12-14 months due to class space restrictions and a lack of volunteers. English is not an easy language to learn, and it takes time.
Why do I have to "press 1," (or, worse yet, 2) for English...
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Hands down....The English Patient
Absolutely the worst movie I have ever seen.
well your english/grammar/punctuation/spelling

Who would want your rudeness around their children or good neighbors anyway?  Since you seem to be just a judgmental person, perhaps there is some utopia somewhere for the likes of folks like you....hmmmmm?  We wouldn't want you in the city nor the country as neighbors of our family, that's for sure, and WE DON'T IMBIBE...so there!


Rudeness and hate is taught in the home - now we know how it was for you.....poor thing....


My last fortune cookie was written in English...sm
on one side and Spanish on the other!
The only people who spoke English were the recruiters.
They micromanage A LOT.

I can't get to the company board...
English Toffee--super easy
You can put down any kind of nuts you want--if you want in a raised-sided cookie sheet.

Cook 1# of butter and 1# of brown sugar plus a little vanilla to hardball stage (I put a little in a cup of cold water and if it is crunchy, it is done).

Quickly pour into cookie sheet because it is easy to burn. Scatter one bag of chocolate chips on top and wait to melt a little before speading across the top.

Everyone loves it and it is pretty easy to make. Once it cools, you break it into pieces.
my family's been here since before the revolutionary war and we speak English
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100% English, all sides of family, all members. nm
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And when they speak English, it is perfectly clear. Just go
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What? Give me a break!. This is because you can only speak English!...nm
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I keep it in the office part time and on the patio part time
I've got the self-cleaning electric litter box (and boy is it worth the $100), and have a huge throw rug under it with a smaller rug by the litter pan that has a bumpy mat on top of it to catch the excess. I keep it in the office from April to October but on the patio from October to March as it is too hot in FL to leave the patio door open for them during the summer months. I also put out a spare box when we go out of town for the weekend.

Try a box that has deeper sides maybe, or not as much litter in it?
I'm complaining to the English reps. pronto! No way this woman should
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My 14yr old is reading Animal Farm now for English
It is quite wierd. I really don't want to watch Kid Nation but am sometimes drawn to those kind of shows.
Hilarious/scary Chinese-->English Learning Aid...sm

Since language is "our thing" - and particularly ESL - I thought you'd like to get a head start on what to expect from future Chinese dictators.  Get a load of these Chinese-to-English learning blocks (I'll post this as an URL you can paste into your browser since some are reluctant to click on links):


http://peer-see.com/blog/chumble-spuzz/2006/07/09/


I suggest we practice by forming sentences, such as:  "The patient is a construction worker who was operating a navvy when a crustacea flew into the cab.  Mistaking it for a darning needle, he swatted at the crustacea and lost control of the navvy, which crashed.  Unfortunately, he was not wearing a safety armet at the time and was knocked unconscious..."


 


 


 


 


 


 


Don't be a jerk. Most of us were lucky enough to be born into English speaking families.
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Yardley London English Lavender Hair Brilliantine for Men...sm
that's a real old-timey one and they still make it...I remember my grandfather used it....just go in and Google Yardley. Better yet, if you can find a real old barber ask what he's used on cutomers over the years...Good luck.  Cat
I switch between soy saugage on whole wheat english muffin and yogurt or
fresh fruit with yogurt and Bare Naked granola. Coffee of course.
But, now listen to this
the mother has been held in contempt of court 12 times so she is not an angel either. Things are not hunky-dory on her part either.
Listen to your PCP sm

See my message above re yoga breathing. I have a friend who has adult-onset ADD. Yes, it can happen - or maybe she had just found ways to compensate all these years until she was diagnosed.


You might want to check into it further....


Thank you...do you really think they will listen to me (sm)
in this situation? I assumed they were only there for people who are being physically abused. Which he did a few years ago, but has not done since. I should have left then...but of course I didn't.
I'm sure they would listen you...
dont know where you live but they also have laws regarding what you can keep on your property, i.e., live pigeons,etc. There is also a law on how many ducks you can have in possesion at one time, meaning the dead ducks in his freezer. You can get into some hefty fines for that though so think hard about it before you start down that road.
I did listen when I was a kid either.

My parents were just a bunch of dumb hard azes that all they wanted to do was prevent me from having any fun.  Well, the older I got, the smarter they got. 


I am now going through it with my kids and I sometimes wonder how they ever kept sane.  LOL.  I have a smart-alecky mom that likes to say "payback time."


Please listen up........JMO
I had a male family member that went to stay with cousin every summer. His parents would see attitude changes, a little anxiety maybe afterwards, but he was a high strung kid. Years later, around 21 years, he told his parents the cousin molested him. They even had this kid come to their home for summer. Their child never said anything because he felt because he was a family member, the family would be upset with him or cause family problems, even though his parents had always talked to their children about anyone, including family members, that may touch or act inappropriately toward them to come and tell them immediately. It was devistating to the parents. I feel so sorry for them. They can't stand to be around their own nephew but their child does not want anyone else to know. But because of his age, they don't know what else to do but not say anything because he has asked them not to.

I don't mean to sound negative, but I would have second thoughts now letting a male child go stay with another male child, especially one a little older. That really opened my eyes to just how things happen under the wire and you don't know, no matter how in tune you think you are with your child. Sorry to turn this into a worst case scenario but just be aware.
Listen, you.
I work for a large, world-class teaching hospital and I do pediatric endocrinology.

It's a very small percentage, but it's not nonexistent. Thinking that it only happens to someone else is one of the more stupid things I've heard in a long time.
yes. find a doc that will *listen* to you--sm
(good luck in that regard), but sounds like it could be a thyroid condition or maybe fibromyalgia, or like *hayseed* said, some type of autoimmune thing. good luck to you!
Let him sit down and listen to what you do and say try to transcribe it... (sm)
May be he will understand that these are legal documents and it is your responsibility to make it that way!! Sometimes they have to walk in your shoes or sit in your chair, so to speak, to understand. Hope this helps!!
I don't listen to music, but I have the TV SM
on in the room next to me. Can't miss my Golden Girls. It just relaxes me and I feel like someone is here and the mood is lightened if I am stressed.  
Tell me how to listen to the news when
I get sooooo out of sorts listen to the idiotic, stup*d things people are doing each and every day. The stories I am hearing today- a mother gets on her daughters bus to have the child to fight for herself- with the mother holding the backpack for her child so "it would not get in her way." I think the mother charged with contributing to the deliquency in that case. The mother is telling the courts she is gonna teach her child how to defend herself?? What a crap! Another case today is mother who threw her 6 month old child at a police officer when the mother being investigated for having drugs in her trailer, another mother doused her 3 children with solvent, fires them up and the youngest child has died. Friends let a blind guy drive and he has wreck and dies- what in the hel* is happening with this news business. I cannot hear the news without all this insanity..
My veterinarian did not listen
I went this morning to get 2 more prescriptions for my oldest catt as she needs something for appetite stimulation and she has a thyroid problem (just like her mama.) I was talking with the front office and talking about the fact that she was still having issues with throwing up. Lord knows I have tried anything I could think of, changing the food several different ways- I would hand feed if it would help- and I brought up the subject of anything else over-the-counter I could use besides the Imodium they told me I could try. The front desk then tells me the Imodium not for problems with throwing up but soft stools?? They then went back to read on her chart where veterinarian had made note of my saying soft stools. This NEVER happened. I have not had a problem with those.  You know, from the vets to your regular physicians, these people are just NOT listening. I called yesterday in fact to reorder her medications so would not have to wait and you guessed it, not ready when I got there and still had to wait. Why, why - This is a big problem and not just with animal doctors, with regular physicians.
Don't listen to that one mean poster (sm)
That is so sweet - don't listen to these people. If he was 12 I might be concerned. I lay in the bed at night with my 10 year old and read to him every night. He thinks I'm his mom, that's all. Your son will get through this. It is just a phase I'm sure.
Enablers listen up.
I posted on this board about this before. Anyone who is an enabler should take heed. Just found out tonight my high school friend of 40+ years has lost her son at the age of 34. He basically gave up, drank himself into a stupor, would not accept any help about getting him in a hospital and now has died. He had cirrhosis, kidney failure, has been on a vent- I tried to talk and talked incessantly to her about her not throwing a rope to him all the time. She has lived her life for him as well as her other son (who is in his 30s also) and ran for them, paid their bills, let her own self go to finance their wants and such. I am positive when he finally just sat down and refused to get up and finally could not get up that she probably still went to his home and I am sure she still took him beer. No amount of talking would ever change her mind that she was doing the wrong thing for him. She does this with her other son as well. She has made both of these grown children invalids and yet she did not see and does not see still. I am sorry for her loss but when do enablers ever think or know that possibly it is them that cause a codependency relationship like this?  Folks, if your children are still leaning on you to support them, please understand how much harm you actually do. I feel sorry for her loss.
I can't listen to it, for reasons I just can't go into. nm
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my money's on your dog. Listen to
him. My old dog one time was growling so low I did not hear her,I felt it through the leash at a park. It was a really nice looking young man whom I would not have been suspicious of at all, but when I looked down at her, her fur was up and she was poised to attack, a typical german shepherd stance with one back leg crouched. She did not like him at all and was not even wasting her time barking. I had to hold up hand up to him and tell him to stop where he was. This was a first although I had seen her become very protective in the house, always slept between me and the door and she always tried to answer the door ahead of me. It turned out these were gypsy pavers staying in my sister's park and they were all nothing but trouble, even making the news in Chicago when one mistreated her child in the parking lot.
There are several sides here, listen!
You had pain - you had suffering - you don't want to be alone. Set some rules, don't have any alcohol in the house at all. If anyone wants to visit at the holidays, they'll have to drink tea or coffee. That's what I do and barely anyone comes. So case closed as far as that goes. No one is saying you're a bad person, what they're saying is don't write your Mom and your Grandmom out of your life because you are punishing yourself. You are in the medical profession or associated with it. You know this goes on all th time in most families that will admit it. The posters who tell you to get over it mean well, they want you to have a family. You set the ground rules. Your OP said you want to forgive but cannot forget. You have gotten off the track here, read your OP again to yourself. Give them another chance with your rules, that's all people are trying to get across to you, according to your OP. Get back on track with the forgive thing and you will be happier. Just set the rules. Believe me, we've been there and just haven't posted what we've been through. Your story sounds familiar. There were no rules to protect children like there are now. You mom must have gotten the same treatment and her mom or they never would have done the behavior. Hate the sin and not the sinner is all anyone said here. They're just trying to shake you into reality before you spend a lonely holiday. If they don't keep their side of the bargain, then you have to tell them, not us. It's up to you, you asked for opinions and you may not like what you got, but you asked and people answered. God bless you and your son. Try to have a happy family holiday if you can.
Oprah probably does not have to listen to all the
Indian speakers I have to day after day.
don't listen to this garbage
No, no, no. Do not listen to this. Someone is making a play for your guy. Don't doubt it.