Actually the people with money buy all the nonsense items for their kids
Posted By: SM on 2007-12-26
In Reply to: Quit worrying about what everyone else got or gets their kids. sm - Mom
and the others without money are all trying to keep up with the Joneses and of course getting in debt because of it because heaven-forbid their kid doesn't have what everyone else has. How could they ever be seen in public without the gel french manicure nails, cell phone, ipod, blackberry, brand name jeans, etc., etc., etc. What a world we live in where the children now rule! lol Pathetic. The other day I saw a woman and her maybe 15 year old, all highlighted hair and all, at the nail place, and unfortunatley I got stuck in the seat between the two of them. Well the kids nails alone cost her 65.00. lol! But the best was the kid must have not liked something and was mouthing something to her mom, and then the mom was like whispering, what, honey, what is it, what is wrong, do you not like something, honey, do you want a design, tell me, what is wrong? what is it? And I'm in between them, right? I wanted to say please excuse me while I get up to throw up. LOL. It is just amazing to me.
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can buy 4 items for teenager for same price buy 8 items for younger.
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Wow, so only people with money
have any class? I know plenty of people with lots of dough who are still low class and probably always will be no matter how much they have. It amazes me that some people seem to think that having money automatically elevates them in the class department and gives them the right to look down on everyone else.
And by the way, its riff-raff.
My kids knew no work , no money
I did not have to beg, plead, cajole, swear, swat or promise the kids anything. They had a room over their head, food to eat, bills paid- I told them from a very early age the necessity of my working. I do not believe you have to give prizes to a child for doing what they should- and that would be leave you alone while at work. Too many things kids can entertain their own self- at (after a certain age, of course) so you do not wind up having to entertain them.
We have had one since August - kids pooled their money - sm
and bought it (we refused to buy it for them); my DH tried to teach his dad pool on Christmas, boy was his dad bad, couldn't even score, when he finally did he scratched. My DH won 36-0. His mom loved the bowling game though and did very well (she bowled in a league years ago and was/is quite good at it). My girls love it and it is getting my one a bit more physical as she moves around more with this than with the Gamecube or her DS lite. They got the dancing game for Christmas and are having a lot of fun with it. They even have Wii's in nursing homes now since it gets the residents up and moving about, a sort of therapy.
Kids and money for school things...sm
Here is it is.... January 30th and since January 1st I've been asked by my 16-year-old for:
$90 for a graphing calculator for the calculus class
$85 for school yearbook (and price goes up 2/1 by $15..she didn't tell me any of this until now)
$30 for hoodie for yearbook club
$15 for drama t-shirt for spring production... which she has exactly 2 lines in and will not be on the stage any other time.
Total: $220.
I bought the calculator as it was necessary and I know she'll use it again in college. I've offered to pay half of the yearbook if she'll raise the other half. For the shirts I've told her to raise the money herself. The drama team is also looking to possibly go to New York for a few days to take in shows in May and gosh only knows what that would cost... if it gets approved.
She doesn't work and says if she gets a part-time job then she can't do the drama production as they practice 3 days a week until 8 p.m. .... well hello she has only 2 lines in it and isn't even in any other scenes.
I told her to get a job or start offering to babysit for money. I'm tired of being nickel-and-dimed to death for fru-fru non-essential expenses.... especially since we just spent $700 on car repairs and $250 for surgery on the dog (abscess on foot - she stepped on something at some point and messed herself up) and medical bills are coming in from my husband's numerous medical tests he had in November. I'm not going to pay for her to go to New York either when that would probably take out entire family vacation money for the summer. Once those numbers come in we'll offer to pay a portion of the cost but that's it.
She also insists she wants to go to college out of state, and her dad and I have also told her she has to figure out how to pay for that because we're not going in debt for that when she can get a free education from the lottery in our state by going to a state school. She doesn't do any volunteer work, play sports or have any special talents that would qualify her for scholarships.
I told her that it's time to grow up and realize there is no money tree in our back yard, and I'm not going to bust my butt working extra jobs to buy these things for her.
I used to give money to people like you
standing on the corner, but feel a lot better helping out the fur-covered animals. You are such a loser!
These people are in Hollywood with loads of money.
She'll have a nanny and her Mom's writing a book or something or parenting, so she'll be good to go.
What I don't like is the fact that 7-year-old daughter watched that show on Disney, as I'm sure other young girls have, and I don't think that's setting a very good example for her to be in a school setting and then be an unwed, young mother. Maybe I'm from the old school, but I think it says a lot for this young girl and her decision making. I actually read an article online that said the father of this child was not planning on this, but he'll make a great Dad... How does he not plan on it? It does take two? Do they not know of birth control? This is what makes me think it was planned and for show and for all of us to comment on and make a big deal about it.
They have money, they'll be fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How the heck do some of these people have money for all the surgeries? NM
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Bunch of money-hungry people
I think this is so ridiculous. Like these artists don't make millions of dollars already.
I think the artists should be fined for not giving a kick back to all the teachers who taught them and police officers who protected them as they were growing up and becoming the stars they are today.
I'm sorry, I just think our society is so twisted. Sports stars and hoochies who sing terribly but shake their breasts at you make millions, but the ones responsible for our safety and the education of our society make crap.
And people wonder why our society is in the crapper!
Okay, off my soapbox now :)
Nonsense...
It depends on the individual. There are men who are not intact and they stink like I don't know what. A dirty man is a dirty man, foreskin or no foreskin. Sorry...
Ask people what sex they are? LOL My kids used to do that (sm)
I would die of embarassment when my 2 year old would say loudly, pointing, "Hey, is that a mommy or a daddy? Hey, is that a mommy or a daddy!!!?" So embarassing!!
people with kids
I know people with kids who are in and out all the time who don't lock their doors. A friend's husband came home REALLY drunk one night and not only did he not lock the door at 2 am he left it standing wide open.
I live alone, so my doors are locked all the time. Even if I'm going in and out, it gets locked when I come back in each time. I'm a little obsessive that way.
These kids are doing it to random people
Big jerks!!! Did they get caught? I certainly hope so...
I told right away, think its nonsense to wait - sm
people will find out generally one way or another. I can see if you have a history of miscarriages and being paranoid about it and waiting 3-4 months thinking you'd jinx yourself, etc. But miscarriages happen for a reason and are natural abortions for the most part, and should be thought of that way, much healthier approach and attitude. Granted I do not know from experience, but I'd like to think that is how I'd think of it. I spotted at six weeks at my very first GYN exam (before the exam), yes it was unnerving, but that was the only time it happened luckily. But I told my friends and family right away and had no qualms in getting all my ducks in a row in advance as much as I could (we were in the midst of moving and selling the house during my first pregnancy).
Well people do forget - even though my kids are young (sm)
Recently I babysat a very young baby and had to really think about what to do with her! Over time we do forget these things.
I have. See him on infomercials in the middle of the morning trying to sell is nonsense...
to fill is how pockets. Just one example of his "natural cures"....any physician will confirm, with 100% certainty, that patients with end-stage renal disease who receive dialysis 3 x weekly can not be cured by KT's natural methods. He's one of the biggest so-called medically knowledged shysters out there, praying on innocent, uneducated, poor people.
that's nonsense! I make a six-figure income all my myself being an MT. Hubby has no need to wor
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You're boring me. Gonna do my work and stop checking to see what nonsense you post next nm
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How much money rasied for Katrina, how much money for the diasters due to the tidal waves and what?
Every single one of them have had some smoke around it with the money not getting to where it was supposed to go. I did not contribute, I hardly watched, was not caught up again as I have seen things like this before. They should give a all you can give benefit for Darfur where people are being massacared each and every day. Genocide going on there each and every day. I have not seen any benefits to help them out yet.
I'm not familiar with the items you used
but I do definitely try to find natural cures if possible. I flatly refuse to take prescription or OTC cough medications. I make my own, because it's so much better for me, and it doesn't contain all those chemicals that wreak havoc on my body. I have and continue to use herbs for various things. I think it's important to know about alternative cures. There may come a day (and it's here for a lot of people) when we won't be able to get prescription meds, or be able to afford them, and we'll need to know how to take care of ourselves for a lot of things.
Engraved items
Anything engraved is always a great gift, photo album, frame, etc. I love getting beautiful keepsakes for my children. Monogramed baby blanket? You'll think of something great! It's the thought that counts anyway. She will cherish whatever you send her.
some of the items you mentioned for a child--sm
to me, are also too restrictive. Cribs are for *infants* who are not mobile, as well as bassinets. Play pens and baby gates are for toddlers and are mostly for the parents, who do not wish to be *inconvenienced* by supervising their off spring. Puppies are pretty much mobile from the day they are born. If you begin training them early, you would not need to be afraid to leave them unsupervised if you needed to be gone. They would already know. Besides, since when are *material things* like carpeting and furniture more important than a living breathing being?? If a person does not want to take the time to supervise either a puppy OR a child, then they should not have either one. This is just my opinion. I am entitled to feel the way I do, as are you. Crate your dog if you wish too. Barricade your children, as you do not wish to be *inconvenienced* by their presence. Watch your tv, drink your drinks, have your fun, and call yourselves good parents and tell yourselves, and others, that you do these things for the *safety* of the children and the pets, and for the protection of your prized material belongings. It all comes down to selfishness. JMO
What items do you mean? I am thinking of doing this myselt -sm
bankruptcy is not an option for me; but I am drowning. I know what every cc you put in your can never use again; i.e. close account, which is fine with me. What I will try to do is get a new cc with a very low limit and use that for things like gas only; try to rebuild my credit with that one, as I consolidate the other 3 I have maxed out as I had to live off them for about 10 months during a very rough patch, racked up quite a bill unfortunately and just cannot get out from under. ---Any one have a particular service they were happy with?
Depends on if parts can be used with other items I have.
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Yes, I buy some items from them. Some stuff is very good
ice cream is great, too!
commercials for personal items.
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Second-hand and generic items
I am shopping for second-hand items at resale shops and buying only sale and generic items at the grocery store. I don't drive as much or as far as I used to to shop. I am working more hours, although for less pay as an MT.
I think the the crooks (politicians) who put the American public in this position should be prosecuted.
Children are blessings! They are not luxury items!!!
I bargain hunt for clearance items
and resell them on ebay for a small profit. I also go to estate sales to find used hard to find stuff and resell on ebay. I usually stock pile the stuff I know are good sellers and sell them around Thanksgiving time and before Christmas. I made just over $400 last Christmas. It was a very nice amount and made our Christmas very nice. I also have an online store on ioffer.com that I sell some of the stuff.
seeking advice on selling used items like
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stay away from C items, coffee, cola, and chocolate...
she could have put big ticket items on there in hopes some would pool their resources together. sm
that's how my family does it. we will have several go in together to get an important big item. also, i think when doing registeries a lot of people home and kinda like a shopping spree. they know they will or will not get items, but what's the hurt to put the items on there just in case.
bought/sold couple hundred items
i've had a good experience both ways. it is time consuming, communicating with customer/feedback/packaging items/mailing, etc. Like you, i thought of doing same. but you really have to have something special/in demand to market, or maybe do the drop-ship method where you don't even keep the inventory yourself to make a real business venture. I don't think it's any more of a golden goose than other business ventures however.
Is it safe to drink unopened canned items
That have been refrigerated for a couple weeks. Found a can of pineapple juice my husband put in the refrigerator a couple weeks ago, but didn't open. I know it's not safe to put open cans in the refrigerator, not sure about something that has not been opened yet.
But her money is her money to spend as she pleases -
I don't understand how you can think it is wrong for her to spend whatever she wants to on whatever she buys. It is their personal money they spend. It is not like they are saying give me those shoes and add it to the taxpayer's bill.
And in all actuality, they are saying spend, spend, spend to get the economy going.
I am sorry, I am jealous that some people still have plenty of money to spend and I don't, but I don't expect those people to quit spending just because I had to.
Thinking more of actual themed items, not sparkly in particular. Santa,
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Any craft fairs in your area? Or stores that carry hand-crafted items regularly? Look online
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It didn't work out due to combining of kids and step kids. nm
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For some items you could buy men's, they tend to be longer with longer sleeves. NM
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you can give the people the facts, but the decision making process should be left to the people
This is what our country is founded on FREEDOM OF CHOICE! I'm laughing already; you are just as mortal as the rest of us, and don' even attempt to that you've never done anything in your lifetime that was unsafe or unhealthy. NOT gonna buy it.
it is wonderful to see how many people have such strong opinions about people in debt.
I thought that the purpose of this board was to be able to post without being judged unfairly or have somebody tell you how wonderful their personal life is, and therefore you are causing their life to be less wonderful with your irresponsibility. Well, the saying "walk a mile in my shoes" is a good one in this case. Since you have no personal information about the person you are lambasting because they are looking for information on their debt, you can feel superior. Had you had personal information about them, you might act in a more human manner. Consider fighting cancer for 4 years, working and being debilitated while you do, suffering the effects of chemo, going into debt to maintain your home for your children and looking for a way out of debt SHOULD YOU EVEN LIVE THROUGH THIS!! Thank you for the kind comments. To the judgmental people I say please take a step back before you judge. You do not know who you are talking to and if you knew the personal information maybe your comments would be kinder.
I get frustrated by the double standard they use when judging people. They let certain people go sa
What do you think about the voting process?
People who go around calling other people "low class"
have their own issues in life. Ignore them. Nothing like a misplaced superiority complex to make a person feel good about themselves. Like they've never done anything gauche or made a faux pas. It must be nice for them to be so perfect and live in a glass house.
For that matter, you probably saved your piggy's life by popping that mondo zit! It could have gotten infected or something.... (yes, I have a zit popping fixation myself, but you were really descriptive on that pig zit. gag LOL)
Man, you would have appreciated the time one of my relative's popped a HUGE cyst on her face. I was standing right next to her at the time and leaned back because I knew it was going to blow. It did! Big time! All over the wall, mirror and light fixture. I'm still disgusted by the thought of it 10 years later. LOL In a revering kind of way...
some people did, some people didn't. It's their choice.
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Nope, no kids with him, all of our kids are 20 and over.
I would think that some of the $12,000 A YEAR he paid in support for over 9 years should have been enough to save some for college. He paid his dues so to speak, always paid the support on time, had insurance for them, etc. He told them straight up to pay for their own college. Is there something wrong with that?
ESL kids have a label =$$$. When the illiterate kids get a label slapped on them - they will get a
Most public schools do not teach children to read with intensive phonics. It has nothing to do with class size IMHO. The method of reading instruction is what determines if the kids will learn to read or not.
Consider homeschooling her.
Each child represents a $ amount to public school administration. As long as the child attends they get their $. They still get X amount of $ for each year they teach or do not teach a kid to read.
Their compensation is not reduced when they produce illiterate adults.
You are right on the money here...
What great advice!!! I too did a lot of what you have listed in your post. It worked!!! When rules/expectations are in black and white, it's pretty hard to argue about it...
My 2 teens do their own laundry, clean the kitchen after supper, clean their bathroom, and now that they both work, buy the majority of their "things."
The key, I believe, is responsibility. Kids thrive with responsibility. They may moan and groan about it, but in reality, they thrive with rules and responsibility. Good luck!!!
She is right on the money about that - sm
As I said in my post above. The discipline at our former (private) school was a joke. Luckily the majority of the kids at this school are good kids, but there are a few bad apples that would never be allowed to get away with what is tolerated at this school. The nutcase (or strangler) in my daughter's former class at the private school would have been expelled by now from a public school. Amazing what they will put up with for $6K a year and an alumni mother. Oh, and of course they have no type of a counselor or psychiatrist at the private school, no nurse even. They had a real cow when Jenny was in chemo and dealing with that. But that is another story.
Money.
Money or a gift certificate to whatever craft store they shop at when they get supplies for the kids. You can also donate money to the teachers "account" at school and it's tax deductible.
Where to put my money
I am selling my house and moving overseas. I will have between 250,000 and 275,000 after agent fees and loan pay off. I want to take about 50,000 and put in a money market account attached to my checking and savings accounts for easy access for things as I need them and for unforeseen expenses.
I don't know how best to use the other approximately $200,000. I will not have a job. My only income right now will be about $1150 a month from my rental property. I would like to invest my other $200,000 and live on the interest combined with my rental income. What is the best return I am looking at?
Of course I know I need to talk to my accountant and maybe hire a financial adviser but I'd like to hear some thoughts and get some direction so I can research it a bit myself.
5% for a money market is okay but is there a better way to structure this? In a couple of years I may want to use this $200,000 to purchase a home or business so it can't be away for good but 3-5 years is okay.
I keep getting told about going offshore because I won't have to pay taxes on the interest and with internet banking it is easy to transfer funds and make payments.
Of course you can tell I am a novice but I would like to start researching my best options. Any advice?
Money - Should I be mad or not?
Suppose you had a friend who was very nice all the time, to everyone, can't stand to hear anyone say an unkind word about anyone. Suppose this friend had come crying to you several times over a period of a couple of months with financial difficulties, and rather than loan them the money (which would prolong the difficulty in my opinion), you just gave it to them to help them get caught up. It was a necessity and children involved, etc.. So you helped them....anyway...
What if after that, it became a regular monthly, and sometimes semi-monthly event, where there was some major issue of why this person needs money, you figured they must really be having a hard time, felt sorry for the children, and helped a couple more times.
It is my feeling that when you give someone something, it is theirs, so you shouldn't even ask what they did with it. But suppose now you find out that they have purchased something fairly expensive ($400) that is a completely unnecessary luxury item (game), that they had to have purchased during the timeframe you were helping them, and mentioned some other things they have been doing recently - things that you yourself can't even afford to do!! Would you feel you had a right to be upset or would you just say to yourself that they have a right to have a life and once they had money, to spend it how they want? This happened to me recently, and while I have decided not to give them any more money, I am not sure if I should be angry or not?
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