Actually ...

Posted By: Z on 2008-04-05
In Reply to: Another smokers' vent thread - sm

one of the effects of the addiction to nicotine seems to be denial about the consequences! To a non-addict, nicotine use is completely illogical, but smokers are in complete denial until the MD comes in and gives them biopsy results of lung cancer or maxillofacial cancer or explains that they are in lates stages of COPD or whatever the final lethal result is.

The costs to society are astronical, but selfish addicted people don't care about the costs to others.

Here is just one article, but I'm sure the craving for nicotine will cause a wall of denial to go up in your brain, as always:

Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, Vol 50, 81-85

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ARTICLES

Health and social costs of tobacco use in Ontario, Canada, 1979 and 1988
BC Choi and AW Pak
Department of Preventive Medicine and Biostatistics, University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

STUDY OBJECTIVE: This study aimed to estimate the health and social costs of tobacco use in Ontario, Canada. DESIGN: This was a cost- benefit analysis based on cross sectional data in 1988, stratified by age and sex, using an attributable risk model. The total cost of the consequences of tobacco use in the society included those costs attributed to extra deaths, disability, hospitalisation, physician visits, and fire losses, from tobacco use. PARTICIPANTS: The general population of Ontario, Canada. MAIN RESULTS: The total cost of tobacco use in Ontario, Canada in 1988 was estimated to be $3.623 billion--$721 million more than the total customer expenditure on tobacco products. Tobacco use was also found to be responsible for 14% of all adult deaths, 5% of all adult disability days, 14% of all days of hospitalisation, and 3% of all physician visits. Compared with previous results for Ontario (1979) the cost of the consequences of tobacco use had increased by about 25% and consumer expenditure by about 35% over the period, while the excess of consequences over expenditure fell slightly by about 3%. CONCLUSIONS: The annual excess of the social costs of tobacco use over total consumer expenditure is staggering. It is suggested that similar cost-benefit analysis of smoking be carried out at regular intervals to monitor smoking trends in the society, to estimate health and social costs, and to provide information for the setting of targets for tobacco control and healthy public policies.

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Another smokers' vent thread - sm
- Actually ... - Z
  - Thank you oh sanctimonious one - SmokinMT
    - People have to eat, so it - Z
      - Sure it's easy to get addicted - puffing away
        I'm not overweight or a smoker, - Z
        Give me a break and crawl back - puffing away
    - What a great response!! - puffing away
      - Yes, I will gladly pay my share of - Z
        Comes down to....... - puffing away
        You brought it up, ya goof! - Z
        No, just tired of hearing idiots - puffing away
- My SIL thinks it is hysterical when her children - trose
- I agree that was rude s/m - Alma
- Note from an ex-smoker - mt
- There's a little difference with smoking, though. - SM
- I was told by a child I was doing drugs -- - mimi
- Good Comeback for Smokers (from a nonsmoker)! - txcatgirl
- I have a co-worker that insists on telling me - 50
- Talking to me about my smoking may lead - ncMT
  - the thing that I love - by
    - You know what will happen if we all quit - MTDays
      - not to mention a little mass hysteria from mass widthdrawal. NM - mimi
        withdrawal.......see what happens? just the thought! NM - mimi
      - i think that's an excellent idea to tax junk food - maybe it would encourage people would get healthy
        that solving a problem witih another problem. NM - mimi.
        And you're okay with that? - MTDays
        nobody said you couldn't eat it - just add a tax to it to make it less appealing
        whew! weave that web. - mimi

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