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Abstinence is not Birth Control, it is SAFE SEX.

Posted By: abstinence is the only safe sex, not birth control on 2007-03-27
In Reply to: abstinance is the best form of birth control there is--sm - nn

Abstinence is truly the only SAFE SEX....but it is NOT considered birth control........


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There most certainly WAS birth control back then--sm
it was called ABSTINANCE.
birth control pills
There are enough hormones in birth control pills to make you have a period, even if you are in menopause.

But menopause is not a disease and it most definitely is not a mental disease.

I plan on spoiling myself during this special time. To me, it will be just as magical as before it started and I will be just as happy to see it go, but I am certainly not sick or crazy because my hormones are rockin.
birth control pills
I am so thrilled to see that you think that there is nothing mental about menopause!! All the power to you!!
I personally know how "mental" PMS was and am very thankful for an OB/GYN who agrees that the safest way to combat the mood altering affects of menopause is for me to stay on Depo until I am at least 50 and then if I have any symptoms, I will go right back on it.
I do not intend to suffer any more than I have to. I have enjoyed 13+ years of no PMS thank you very much!! Oh and my MIL went through menopause about 12 years ago and still has hot flashes and nightsweats as does a DA so I am not sure when the symptoms all go away, but I will do whatever possible to avoid the "mental" ones anyway!!!!
The government will pay for birth control..
go to a planned parenthood. Very very cheap. There really is no excuse for 7 kids and no job for either parent. Join the military, get a job, like you said, at Wendy's or Wal-Mart or something. I am not against a hand up, but I am very much against a hand out.
Has anyone tried the Mirena birth control device or anything like it? sm

Having lots or problems with the pill and looking for new options. Thanks


No birth control pills when I had the abortions,
now how does that date me? The forms before the pills just not that good. When the BCP first came on the market, you were supposed to be married in order to obtain it. Facts that younger people would not even know now probably. Much easier now for younger people.
abstinance is the best form of birth control there is--sm
as opposed to killing babies. JMO. Besides coffee is bitter smelling and so is this. Wake up to life!
Yes it is...no sex...no preggo...hence birth control. ummmm. nm
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Wow - birth control = killing embryos? sm
I hope you're not holding your breath waiting for Mensa to invite you to join, or we'll be calling you "Old Blue".
Anything you think you can avoid by home schooling, not getting birth control, etc
for your children, talking incessantly about all the no-nos associated with premarital sex, etc will more than likely fall on deaf ears when it comes to children. I did live in a really big city and regardless of small or large, the girls are maturing much earlier and a lot involved in sex earlier than we as parents would like to believe. You can give a child talk after talk but restrictions, talking, home schooling, etc only goes so far with growing kids. You cannot protect your kids like you would really like to.
News flash: NO birth control is 100% effective.

Maybe she was on birth control. Who knows?  The Spears' do not seem like intelligent people to me, so maybe she wasn't smart enough to be on birth control, but remember that even the pill is only 99% effective when taken perfectly, and I imagine most women forget a pill every now and then, which lowers its effectiveness even more.  I hope and pray my kids don't have children at a young age, but if they do I will accept their children with open arms and try to be the best grandma I can be.  Much of life is about making the best of a bad situation.  Not everything is picket fences and roses.


Question on birth control and missed periods...sm
Has anyone ever skipped their period by starting a new pack of pills instead of doing the "period" week? I used to do this every now and then with my old brand of pills and never had any problems. When the next month would come along the period would start right when it was supposed to. I was switched a few months back to a new pill, generic Ortho Cyclen, and decided to skip my period over Christmas. It is now time for my period and nothing is happening. Anyone ever have this happen??  Thanks
She may be asking about it as a form of birth control, too. Time for "the talk." 13 is NOT too
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It sort of does make a difference when they use it as a form of birth control...
just my opinion.
Girl up for expulsion for taking birth control at school

This is a local story. Crazy, crazy, crazy.


Student Suspended for Popping Birth-Control Pill LSD or heroin use only gets five days out


By ASHA BEH
Updated 11:15 AM EDT, Sun, Apr 5, 2009


A gun or birth-control? Bringing either to school lands you a two-week suspension in Virginia.


A Fairfax County teen has been suspended for two weeks -- and might also get kicked out of school -- for popping a birth-control pill at school.


The honor student and lettered athlete at Oakton high school was caught taking the pill during lunch and soon found herself in the assistant principal's office, The Washington Post reported. During the meeting with her mother and the assistant principal, the school handed down the maximum sentence: a two-week suspension and recommendation for expulsion.


That's the rule in Virginia regarding prescription medications and illegal drugs on campus. And make no mistake, anti-teen pregnancy campaign or not, they take that rule seriously.


It's all in the Student Responsibilities and Rights handbook: If she had been caught high on LSD, heroin or another illegal drug, she would have been suspended for five days. Taking her prescribed birth-control pill on campus, on the other hand, gets the same punishment as bringing a gun to school.


No birth control sales, no candy sales,

CHANTILLY, Va. — A new drug store at a Virginia strip mall is putting its faith in an unconventional business plan: No candy. No sodas. And no birth control. Divine Mercy Care Pharmacy is among at least seven pharmacies across the nation that are refusing as a matter of faith to sell contraceptives of any kind, even if a person has a prescription.


States across the country have been wrestling with the issue of pharmacists who refuse on religious grounds to dispense birth control or morning-after pills, and some have enacted laws requiring drug stores to fill the prescriptions.


In Virginia, though, pharmacists can turn away any prescription for any reason.


"I am grateful to be able to practice," pharmacy manager Robert Semler said, "where my conscience will never be violated and my faith does not have to be checked at the door each morning."


Semler ran a similar pharmacy before opening the new store, which is not far from Dulles International Airport. The store only sells items that are health-related, including vitamins, skin care products and over-the-counter medications.


On Tuesday, the pharmacy celebrated a blessing from Arlington Bishop Paul S. Loverde. While Divine Mercy Care is not affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church, it is guided by church teachings on sexuality, which forbid any form of artificial contraception, including morning-after pills, condoms and birth control pills, a common prescription used by millions of women in the U.S.


"This pharmacy is a vibrant example of our Holy Father's charge to all of us to wear our faith in the public square," said Loverde, who sprinkled holy water on the shelves stocked with painkillers and acne treatments. "It will allow families to shop in an environment where their faith is not compromised."


The drug store is the seventh in the country to be certified as not prescribing birth control by Pharmacists for Life International. The anti-abortion group estimates that perhaps hundreds of other pharmacies have similar policies, though they have not been certified.


Earlier this year in Wisconsin, a state appeals court upheld sanctions against a pharmacist who refused to dispense birth control pills to a woman and wouldn't transfer her prescription elsewhere. Elsewhere, at least seven states require pharmacies or pharmacists to fill contraceptive prescriptions, according to the National Women's Law Center. Four states explicitly give pharmacists the right to turn away any prescriptions, the group said.


The Virginia store's policy has drawn scorn from some abortion rights groups, who have already called for a boycott and collected more than 1,000 signatures protesting the pharmacy.


"If this emboldens other pharmacies in other parts of the state, it could really affect low-income and rural women in terms of access," said Tarina Keene, executive director of the Virginia chapter of the National Abortion Rights Action League.


Robert Laird, executive director of Divine Mercy Care, believes many of the estimated 50,000 Catholics within a few miles of the store will support its mission and make up for the roughly 10 percent of business that contraceptives represent in a typical pharmacy.


Whether Catholics will be drawn to the pharmacy is uncertain. According to a Gallup poll published last year for an extensive study of U.S. Catholicism called American Catholics Today, 75 percent of U.S. Catholics said you can still be a good Catholic even if you don't obey church teachings on birth control.


Catherine Muskett said she plans to shop at the drug store even though she lives more than 20 miles away.


"Obviously it's good to support pro-life causes. Every little bit counts," said Muskett, one of about 75 people who crowded into the tiny shop for Tuesday's ceremony.
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No, I didn't say that and I actually believe abstinence would be best
but it's just not realistic. Where do you live, on Mars? lol
Abstinence of ALL alcohol is the trick !!!
This method will allow you to know what you are doing at ALL times and prevent taking the life of another individual.  Easy on your organs, too.  Good example for your children . . . and on and on and on
Also, abstinence is taught regularly - kids'
We were always taught abstinence when I was in school.  It was practically shoved down our throats, and I would estimate that only about 10% of the student population actually abstained.  That is great for them, and they should be proud, but you can't leave the other 90% in the dark about safe sex, because they will be having it, and isn't better if they know all about the possible consequences of their actions and how to be as safe as possible?  That's just my view of it.  Safety first!
Oh, c'mon now....abstinence? Wake up and smell the coffee. :)
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he is feeling out of control and he wants control
and from what you wrote, you aren't giving him opportunities to have some control.

My 4 yo has had this type of behavior since the age of 2-1/2, but I've figured out how to deal with it. First of all, he wants your attention, good, bad, indifferent and wants some say so in what happens to him.

I've done several things. With the screaming, I totally ignore her. I tell her my ears are closed and I can't hear her, but if she wants to cry/scream, she can't do it in MY living room (bedroom, whatever), only in HER bedroom. If she refuses to stay in her room, I take away her favorite snuggly and put it on the top of something, out of reach but visible. She can have it back when she stays in her room and stops being loud. If she keeps coming out, I put another coveted stuff up out of reach, over and over until she realizes I mean she has to stay in her room. I don't tell her she has to stop her fit or crying...she just can't do it in MY space. She can come back to where I am if she is quiet.

I make sure she knows I am in control, but we negotiate almost everything. If I want her to drink milk for breakfast and she wants juice, I tell her okay but she has to drink the milk at lunch. That gives her a sense of control and having a say in what is happening to her.

I have also had to sit on her bed for HOURS, holding her by wrapping my arms around her while she screams and kicks and bites until she begs to be let go. I won't let go until the out of control stuff stops. I don't talk except to say "I'll let you go when you are quiet." It is exhausting, but it only took a few times for her to understand I would invest the time and she hated being held like that for so long.

When I work at home, I make sure I take a break about every 90 mins and spend about 30 mins with her. It takes me all day to get my work done, but it makes all the difference in the world.

If she won't pick up something (say, blocks) after being asked upteen times, I tell her I will give them away to a child who wants to take care of them. It only took losing one set of blocks for her to get the idea she HAS to clean up her messes.

Finally, after being potty trained for at least a month and then rebelling and making messes in her pants for a week in a row (this happened 3 times), I finally told her in a very loud voice that _I_ had control over whether or not she went trick or treating and whether or not Santa comes to our house. If she wanted to have those things, she better use the potty and no more messes. She has been dry since the beginning of October and I give her a treat every day she stays dry.

One day a couple of weeks ago, she wanted to go to Mickie Dee's, but as we drove up she started shouting about wanting to go inside. I wanted to drive through. We were in the drive through line and I calmly told her sometimes people get mad and yell at someone else, but maybe it was an accident...I asked if she wanted to tell me sorry for yelling at me or did she want to go home. She shook her head "no" to apologizing. I repeated my offer and again got "no." I drove off towards home which immediately threw her into tears and whining, but now she doesn't yell at me anymore if she wants something.

Since October we have far fewer melt downs and I have realized she actually shows me her triggers...If she is angry and grumpy on the way home from somewhere, I hand her an energy bar to munch and suddenly I have a sunshine child again. If she gets grumpy in the middle of the day and refuses to take a nap, I tell her we will lie down on my bed. We start out talking and before too long, I tell her I am tired and want to close my eyes, but not go to sleep. Pretty soon, she will close her eyes and fall asleep. I can then get back up and go about my business.

Before somebody starts bashing me, I have a close friend who is a child psychologist and she helped me with all these suggestions. It takes a lot of work to maintain the appearance of control while giving the child the opportunity of having some say so in his/her life.
Better safe then sorry
I support your reaction/action to the situation. It would seem to me that the FBI would not prosecute, and the court would not find him guilty, if it was sent to him in error. Be supportive to your daughter's friend's mother - but hold firm. Women's intuition is generally correct.
Did I say anything about not being safe?

That wasn't even the point of the OP.  She wanted to know about in-laws or anyone else just walking in without knocking.  My family and friends don't have to knock before they come my house.  That was my point.


I live in a rural area that I grew up in, everyone knows everyone else.  I have a nice, loud watch dog who lets me know when anyone is around.  The windows are locked.  The doors are locked at night and when we leave the house.  I know what kind of a world we live in.  The Pony Express brings the paper every couple of weeks back to the sticks.  I try to stay informed. 


Better Safe Than Sorry
Better to be safe than sorry, especially with beef -- that can be a very bad GI problem if the beef has gone bad with bacteria.

Happy New Year!!
is there nothing safe?
How can any of you get so excited and downright mean about something as basic as a vitamin question? Gee whiz, it's just a discussion board. So contentious.
Can't make them safe.
A 14 year old I know was killed on his bike a few weeks ago.  You can't make them live in a bubble.  I will pay for my kids insurance and their cars.  Of course they will have rules, although our state has plenty as it is for young drivers.  I will teach them to be responsible drivers, walkers, bike riders, etc.  Just because life can be hard, doesn't mean you have to make it be harder.  I moved out of my parents house just before my 15th birthday and took care of myself.  While it can be done, it doesn't always have to be.
If they kids are safe there - just let it go.
Some families do holidays as major events. If the stepmom and her family are half descent people and the kids are safe there then don't worry about it. :)


Oh, no. The dog is here, safe and sound.

A little on the bossy side with my dogs, but...LOL!  She's here and everyone is getting along for the most part. 


She needs to learn about safe sex. Either you SM
discuss this with her or, better yet, see doctor and have her given some form of birth control. I think this is imperative. If she is having sex, I don't think she is going to stop. You somehow have to convince her to act responsibly. Condoms would be the best thing.


SAFE HAVEN LAW

Wow, this just blows me away.  Last year or early this year a mother aged 17 or 18 gave birth to her 2nd child without parents or anyone for that matter knowing she was pregnant.  She walked into an Omaha Hospital and left her child in a restroom and walked out.  Please note at that time Nebraska was the ONLY state which did not have a safe haven law on the books.  It was pushed through shortly after and is now a law FINALLY.  Which is good because now mothers, who do not want to or cannot take care of their children have a safe place to take them without being in trouble for doing so. 


Well, to my understanding this law (NE only), does not have an age limit as to how old the chid can be when dropped off at the hospital.  Other states have it cut off at 14 but none have ever seen a child OVER 3.  This information came from a radio show about the new law yesterday.  Since the law was put in place a mother dropped off an 11 year old, a different family  dropped off a 9 year old and this mornings news has the following



















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Girl, 13, Abandoned At Omaha Hospital


State Takes Custody Of Teen Under Safe Haven Law



POSTED: 5:13 pm CDT September 20, 2008

UPDATED: 5:23 pm CDT September 20, 2008






The state has taken temporary custody of a teenage girl who was dropped off at an Omaha hospital Saturday under Nebraska's new safe haven law.

A representative from the state Department of Health and Human Services said the girl, 13, was left at Immanuel Hospital around midday. No other details were released.

The girl was the third child dropped off at Nebraska hospitals in the past week.











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Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  I agree with the law all the way.  I am just concerned about the after shock of having an older child dropped off at the ages stated above, what kind of damage is that doing to the child?  I do not agree with child abuse and know that older children are abused all the time but is there not another way we could deal with this? 


Just wondering what everyone else was thinking. 


It is already from a safe contact
I can open all mail, but where pics should be (and were before hotmail changed the look) are just boxes. It isn't just from one contact, but from all my contacts that I used to receive pics from. Now what? I sent an email to the contact site, but they have not answered me yet.
This one is completely fail-safe:
It's expensive. It's bad for your health. DUI's are expensive. AND, in 2008, if you're DUI and kill someone, you can be charged with MURDER, instead of merely vehicular manslaughter.

So I'm havin' a Coke, staying sober, and hopefully I'll live to enjoy yet another year.
my kids had a safe haven to come sm
home to and they knew it and still know it. They have come back twice when times were tough and we didn't charge them a dime until they got on their feet in a couple months. I just think is an injustice to not charge them at all and let them go and do as they please when working and not going to school. You don't get to blow your money as you please as an adult, why should they if they are not in school?
Here's a couple of safe pet food sites.....

http://www.flintriver.com/


http://www.petpromiseinc.com/
I hope your family stays safe. It looks really bad.
I hope they decide not to ride it out though. I have been watching on TV all day. Senator Kay Baily Hutchinson was just on Fox News and she believes Galveston is going to be underwater due to the storm surge. Not sure where your family is, but hopefully they thought better about staying and left.
Good grief, they deserve a safe sm
plce to live! They are not going to remember the big house, etc when they are grown. They WILL remember the abuse you subjected them to and did not get out.
Why not stay safe AND support the US economy
San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica/Venice Beach, LA Jolla, Pismo Beach, etc.

Also early spring is the best time to see the Grand Canyon, Southwest, etc., before it gets hot, and the hordes of tourist busses arrive.
So you think cell phones are safe? This is troubling!
This is probably what it does to our brain power - like putting your head in a microwave, 

 Click on POPCORN   or the link


Glad your son is safe and sound. Prayers to those who aren't. nm
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Oh my word! Talk about timing - I know you are glad that he is safe sm
and I am so glad for you. Praise God. I had absolutely NO idea that many were killed. Today was a no-tv day for me so I had no idea of the death toll. Count your blessings. I know you are. And yes, how tragically sad for those left behind. so senseless....I am so sad now.

:(
Hope you are safe in the Midwest with the terrible storms..
that are ravaging the area. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your families.
Kids want/need bounderies. Makes them feel safe
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Actually, relatives in suburban PA don't lock either and I feel safe there, roo. sm
But i would not feel safe in my own home unlocked, even though I'm in a gated community with tons of outside lights, etc. For some reason I feel safe in someone else's house more than my own.
Is it safe to drink unopened canned items
That have been refrigerated for a couple weeks. Found a can of pineapple juice my husband put in the refrigerator a couple weeks ago, but didn't open. I know it's not safe to put open cans in the refrigerator, not sure about something that has not been opened yet.
Southern by birth
Full of holes.....
I think my mom and your mom were separated at birth. nm
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Giving birth at 70?

A 70-year-old woman from India claims she has become the world's oldest new mother.


Rajo Devi and her husband Bala Ram had wanted a child in all their 50 years together.

She claims to have given birth to a baby girl at the end of November after having IVF treatment. Her husband is 72.


Your birth place

Have you moved or been back to the place (town) you were born? Has is changed drastically or is it pretty much the same?


I was just looking a pictures online of mine and it hasn't changed all that much.


Were you the one who just gave birth?
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gave birth later
I was 29 with the first and 38 with the second with no birth defects
I have relatives in fairly rural Maine who never lock, and I feel totally safe there. nm
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