A shame this place is so catty. But that is freedom of speech for you.
Posted By: Walk a mile in shoes on 2008-08-24
In Reply to: it is wonderful to see how many people have such strong opinions about people in debt. - anon
People come here to be supported, but need to realize there are all kinds of opinions out there. When you place yourself on a public forum to be supported expect to be bashed. That is the way of the world unfortunately. Just learn to try to see who wants to help and who wants to hurt. All kinds of agendas here. Your instincts will tell you who is real and who are the trolls. To all who are well-meaning here and look for support,or provide constructive criticism hang in there. Just filter out the bad and take away from it what you will.
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Freedom of Speech--What has happened to it? sm
According to the first amendment of our constitution, everyone has the right to speak freely. This was a *personal* blog and not on school property. As mentioned before, could perhaps speak to the parents and let the parents decide punishment, but I do not believe the school should have the right to suspend a child for voicing his/her *opinion*. If the child said that to the teacher's face, that would be different. A blog is really no different than writing a diary or perhaps even a book. Just because it is on line and available for everyone to see, does not change her right to say what she said. It is just an opinion and everybody is entitled to one. I would be more upset with the person who printed it out and showed it to the school teacher. Who made that person a *blod monitor*??? just my opinion -- entitled to it, just like every one else.
the world isn't losing freedom of speech...
Just the Christians! Talk about anything except God, Jesus, Church, etc., and we're gonna pay and pay dearly for it, I am afraid! 
You misinterpret what freedom of speech means.
It means you are free to speak against the government on public property without fear of retribution.
You don't have a right to slam others and a blog is on private intellectual property, and probably not even that girl's own private website.
You can have your own opinions but you don't have a right to just throw them about carelessly and harm the reputation of others.
That's what I LOVE about America. Freedom of Religion, speech, etc. But sm
I have to say, if you are an atheist (I am a Christian, BTW), where is your moral "compass" (sorry for the pun) I was an atheist for many, many years (3/4 of my life spent without God or religion). In that time I was: Suicidal, desperate, a liar, a phony, had no direction in life, a slander and just about everything else worldly you could think of. I was selfish..must I go on?
Then, when I hit rock bottom I had no where to look but up. He was there (God). He placed me upon a rock and I've never looked back or down since. I can honestly say I no longer lie or think bad thoughts about other people. I have a clear direction for my life. I do follow Biblical principles and obey His laws. I have a moral compass and a value system I am so proud of. As an atheist there was no right or wrong in my life. Since I didn't fear God I did basically whatever I felt was good or right, even believe in abortion. I am being totally transparent with you, from one ex-atheist to another atheist.
How do you explain a radical life change such as myself? Where do you draw your line of morality from? God says abortion is wrong and so it's wrong. God says a gay lifestyle is an abomination, and so it is. Don't get mad at me, It's in His Word. He said it. Not me.
Anyways, I think that there is much to be said about living a good Christian lifestyle and following its beliefs. My life is in clear order now instead of chaos. I have a life-long goal - to make it to heaven and take those whom I love with me.
What a sad, sad life I led before God. Wow. Like the old saying goes, "I never want to go back to my old life." Good luck to you.
you didnt write that conversation. shame shame
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Hmm, catty fits well for you...
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Not to be catty, but whoa did you see the eyebrows? -sm
talk about bad, must be those tatooed eyebrows I've heard about, or else really bad clown makeup.
Who really knows what she meant? Some women are just catty. My best friend is that way.
We had our sons a year or so apart. And of course, my son was much cuter than hers.  Anyway, my son was small for his age cause the hubs and I are not big people - DH is 5Ɗ" and I am 5ƈ". So everytime my friend and I would get together, she felt the need to say stuff like "Seth just dwarfs your little guy." Her son was also a bit timid and my son not so much. So she would constantly tell me that her son didn't defend himself with mine because her son was afraid he might hurt my son because he was so little. Like 2 year olds are thinking like that!
I never let it bother me. I figured it was her issue and not mine. It bothered my husband tremendously and I had to stop him from making snide remarks during card parties with them. I just would never stoop to making fun of someone elses kid. It's just wrong.
Catty, immature, bored women like yourself are exactly the reason.
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Luckily I use Dictaphone EXText speech package and do all voice control and edits with the keyboard. I really want to wear heels by Christmas!!
Freedom first and most important
My husband has only danced with me ONCE during our entire (more than two-decade) marriage and that was under extreme pressure from his buddies (we were out with a group of friends, mostly couples).
I lost my identity for a long time but after YEARS of marriage I am starting to get it back. Baby steps, but little by little...
I loved my speech therapist.
I stuttered when I was a kid. I *loved* my speech therapist! Once I won a tiny stuffed penguin from an game in the grocery store. I just had to give it to her.
On my my last day of therapy she gave me a *huge* stuffed penguin! :)
In addition to a gift card or whatever you decide, have your son make a card for her. You could also write a letter to her supervisor about her work with your son.
Did you see the whole speech or just revel in the soundbite?
Nice tidy little speech but
if he hadn't got caught by the FBI he'd still be screwing around. What a jerk.
the "I'll kill myself" speech
Hello again! My dad did this too. Tried to run my mom off the road with his car by swerving in front of her car, threw all the christmas presents on the front lawn and cried like a baby!
I can get out my crystal ball for you....he will go back to his girlfriend. He obviously just prefers the food at your house. Hang in there!
i beg to differ. I wish i had freedom FROM religion
I get treated by a leper because I am athiest.
LOVE the freedom from other humans, but
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My freedom what I dinna realise was quite so nice until later.
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Haven't you heard? Freedom of religion isn't for...SM
Christians. It's for everyone else. Sure a Muslim can pray in this country anytime they want, heck you can worship satan himself or practice witchcraft, but a be a Christian and actually admit you are one, let alone pray or read your Bible in public... come on, are you serious? You know every Christian has a secret agenda. We're just proselytizing little brainwashed fools. We're not just praying quietly to ourselves -- we are praying God will send a lightening bolt and strike all the unbelievers. We Christians aren't just placing our Bibles on our desks to read during our breaks -- we HOPE to beat someone over the head with it at some point during the day.
Freedom of religion has been twisted by the liberal spin doctors. It only applies to to those who think like them.... ironic isn't it?
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." -- Lenny Bruce
Puhleez, everyone has freedom except for Christian, white, heterosexuals.
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Just shame on you is all I can say
you are upholding the kids whose behavior is out of hand? I do not know why a teacher would want to teach with what they have to work with now days and making excuses for children who intentionally do this is beyond me. Why in the world would anyone take up for such offensive, rude, crude actions from the children. If you have a medical disorder, which I would bet 99% do not have, then different. The ones you take up for are the same ones that cause the most problems for the parents. Boys will be boys? My daughter tried the belching in her younger days so it is not just boys and I, for one, will not put up with an action like this whether it is my child or not. Shameful.
It is a shame that
that known aggressive Pitbulls continue to be bred and thus aggressive ones get into the hands of irresponsible people. You made my point. Even with responsible people accidents happen, their dogs do sometimes get out. If you know your Pitbull is aggressive, having the potential to kill, in my opinion it is irresponsible to keep such a dog as accidents do happen and you cannot possibly guarantee your dog will never be in a position to cause harm or death to someone's pet or child. I know it is a hard decision to make when someone loves their dog, but we did it for the sake of others safety. It is very hard to justify how loving and gentle your dog is with you and your family after the fact. Until people become responsible and weed out ALL aggressive Pitbulls from breeding programs, which will never happen because of attitudes that "my dog will never get out and do anything bad," I agree with the banning of Pitbulls that some cities have instituted.
I think it's a shame s/m
to deprive children of the traditional Santa Claus. Heck, I still believe in Santa Claus myself. It is a spirit that lives within the hearts of old and young. Kids eventually figure out for themselves that Santa is a fantasy. We took our kids to our church's Christmas Even candlelight service and Santa came while we were at church. We opened gifts when we came home. There was no lying involved and their personalities were not warped either.
Well it is a shame, but it sounds like
We've been there and done that once already with "drunken neighbors" who played music really loud when my children were young! They were nice enough I guess, but just partied all of the time and it got to the point where I couldn't take my kids outside. This was our old house. Now we are much happier, but we are not in the country.
Good luck in selling and I think it sounds like you are making the right decision! Landlords are such a joke!
That's more than a shame, if it's not true.
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I think it's a shame when adults
cannot put their differences aside for the 2 major holidays a year.
I agree with you 100% - what a shame
that when it comes to money, families only think of how much they will get. I could care less if I get money or not as it is none of my business and would rather have my mom than her money.
Again, great advice!
It is such a shame that her fame has caused
You hear so often of stars with private gardeners, make-up artists, etc. Why not a private psychologist/psychiatrist/interventionist. Such a cute girl and so much more life to live. It sure does make you wonder if pushing your children into these types of fields is really the right thing to do. I guess every job has its ups and downs, but I still wouldn't want to see my child have such turmoil when they were seen as "starlets" for so long. I also think the media makes a big deal out of everything. I don't think her actions are good choices, but I also think every little move the poor young mother makes is under scrutinization by the public. You don't often hear about every day people dropping their kids and getting that much publicity. Just like when Michael Jackson dangled his child over the balcony for example. I have been around people that throw their children in the air and catch them. This scares me, but I never see those same people on CNN that night throwing their child in the air and being scrutinized for that action. JMO.
Oh Eunice. That's really a shame. But I must say as a frequent
sufferer of insomnia myself, also mostly due to pain issues, I would be so eleated to get 5 to 6 hours of continuous sleep. I can't recall the last time that occurred. Why not follow your physician's recommendation regarding increasing the Pamelor, and if about 1 month you are still displeased with your sleep pattern, request a trial of another medication. There are plenty of them out there. Like I mentioned, trazodone is often prescribed as the initial line of therapy, most likely because it is non-addicting. If your PCP is prescribing the sleep aid, I would mention the problem also to your physician who is treating your fibromyalgia. He or she may be more up on what helps insomniac patients who have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to post a message asking for my email address, as I have alot of experience and knowledge regarding sleep aids and could give you the ins and out if you so desire. Take care.
LOL. What a shame, she looks 20 years older
My husband says she looks just like Dolly Parton - and that was NOT a compliment. LOL
Great answer! and what a shame (sm)
That there are many people like that at churches. I wonder why? Maybe they like to prey on nice people and they can find people at churches who will be nice to them despite their behavior. Unfortunately it makes the truly nice people look bad when there are so many of those in the group.
How true. It is such a shame for some of these breeds to all
be put in a category of being dangerous, etc. Like I stated in my post above in reply to the Pitbull in the Halloween costume some breeders play on some of the traits of the ones they feel will be more aggressive, larger, more muscle, etc. Then they breed them with another dog they feel has that potential, and so on. A responsible breeder who is concerned only for the well being of the dog and loves the breed will breed only the ones who do not display aggression or the potential for it. I once went to the house of a friend whose dad had a Doberman for years. The dog was there that night, and to be honest I was afraid. I entered the house cautiously to find that the dog was afraid of ME. She had a squeaky toy and lay under the chair all night playing with the toy. She was a thing of beauty. I will never forget her and I learned new respect and to do some reading and research before coming reaching conclusions.
Just heard she died. Such a shame.
I really hope they catch this guy.
I never dropped a baby and shame on anyone who has.
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shame on your 2 sisters! Did they talk
your mother into disinherit you or leave you out of her will? If there is nothing in written by your mother against you, you are still a legal heir and can still go to court!
Believe me, God will get them! Shame, shame!
It is a shame, that the truth is misconstrued as
Unless she likes to be homeless. Or unless one of you want her to move in with YOU.
Would you sit month after month when you are getting no work? Then come on here and say, oh well, I wonder why I have no money to pay bills and now I wonder why I am getting evicted?
What is wrong with HARD WORK and FINDING A JOB when there is no money coming in?
And evictions don't happen easily. You can't just come up and evict someone. It takes a bit more than that. There is sooooo much more to this story for sure.
But you go on with your group hug if you think it will help her. I don't think it will. I think she needs to look at her life situation clearly and see what went wrong and get moving.
If she needs help she needs to seek it beyond this forum.
Well, he WAS a prophet. Shame on cruel posters.
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Isn't that a shame? But it's not just a recent thing. I've heard of it
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That's great news. It's a shame that they couldn't prove it and punish him
for that horrible, horrible crime. I'm happy for the family in that they can get long-needed closure. While it will never take away the pain, but it has to give them some comfort in knowing who it was and that he is no longer walking the earth.
That poor sweet boy, may he rest in peace!
Sorry, don't believe in that place either!
Hmmm, that was a very christian-like post - NOT! lol
she's in a much better place now
and with her son. I wonder who raises the baby.
there's a place for everyone
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That's why this is no place for it
I can tell you right now a lot of people would not like that. I asked someone how they would like it if it was the satanic bible and they have yet to answer. Although they were mighty quick to come back accusing me of being a non-believer when they have no idea what my background is. People don't want the Koran or Tanakh or the Jehovan bible (if they have one), the Wiccan Book of Days, or better yet, how about the Satanic bible. No, they wouldn't like that. To them its the bible or nothing else. People need to keep their religious beliefs to themselves.
I think I might have already gotten something to take the place
My husband the other day told me we needed some new towels, others worn. I thought well just let him get those as I seem to always be the one to buy things needed in the home. Yesterday UPS delivered a brand new 32 inch television to me, an early birthday gift for March from hubby. This morning I went out and bought him lots of new towels (and wash cloths also).
In the first place...sm
Sounds like he went to rehab for all the wrong reasons. Namely, for you, not for himself. The only way an alcoholic/addict has any chance for long-term recovery is to want sobriety more than he or she wants anything in the world. You work the program not for your family, not for your friends, not for your employer, but for yourself. Otherwise, he'll go right back out. Trust me on this.
Meanwhile, get yourself to Al-Anon STAT! The Al-Anon program shows you how to detach and take care of yourself and have your own life. It shows you how to make healthy decisions for yourself and not to enable to alcoholic/addict.
Best of luck to YOU.
What happened in the first place??
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I'd have a BIG problem with it. Not her place. (nm)
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Yes I would - it's not the teacher's place to do this....sm
shouldn't they be spending time teaching anyway instead of being worried about what kids do and don't believe in outside of the classroom?
Teachers are being allowed to do whatever they want this day in time. My high schooler listens to her biology teacher rant and rave each day about the "evils" of eating meat and she's sick of hearing it every day and is anxious for the end of the semester next week to get rid of this obsessive teacher.
Maybe look for a bed and breakfast place in that...
area. Chamber of Commerce might be able to help you.
Congratulations to her and to you!!! You should place the right arm
far over the left shoulder and give yourself a pat on the back. What a wonderful support you have been in helping her achieve her goals and you should be very proud of yourself, too. I know she is so appreciative for all of you that made her dream come true!
It's OUR place to tell our government that
Don't forget, the government is supposed to be owned by us, US citizens. They have gotten so giddy with power, they have forgotten that. Why else do they write their own paychecks, given themselves raises, and can continue to draw HUGE incomes after they leave office for the rest of their lives, including HUGE incomes for their wives long after they are dead, free healthcare, all the perks. These are public officials. Once they are out of office, they're on their own. We have let them take control of OUR government. It's up to us to take it back. You have a phone, e-mail, petitions.......you get the message across to them. Don't wait for others to do it for you.
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