A couple of days would be good - I'll take what I can get right now! Thanks(nm)
Posted By: Lisa on 2007-08-23
In Reply to: book a massage - I had one not that - MT4eight
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Actually going to be in the 60s within the next couple of days
here in NJ. Just too early. I hope this is not a sign of things to come for this winter.
One posted for 5 cpl a couple of days ago
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I thought the same thing a couple days ago, but--sm
did not want to involve myself in a petty debate over who pays for whose insurance. My heartfelt sympathies to you and your family!!I hope your daughter is doing well.
After reading all of this for the past couple of days..sm
you know, a thought just popped into my head. I may be way off base here, and hopefully I am, but is there any possibility, since it was BILs suggestion to store the vehicle at his place, that perhaps HE took the vehicle. I may be all wet, but it just seems odd that if the vehicles had been stored in the garage prior to taking them out, that it would not have been TOO difficult of a task putting them back, messy or not. It was also BIL who said HE was tired and did not want to mess with them. Then he says HE put them by a fence where items of his had been stolen previously...things just are not adding up to 2 and 2 here. Just a thought. Maybe never crossed anyone elses mind. Think about it.
For a work-at-home MT? I'd say a couple of days max.
I've always been one to work when I'm sick. When you're working at home, you can take frequent breaks and lie down if you need to. I had a staph infection in my ankle, had to have it debrided, was in the hospital for a week and worked on my laptop from the hospital bed. Came home from the hospital, and didn't miss a beat. Of course, I was doing strictly QA then, so not a lot of pedal work, just list4ening to blanks and stuff.
With lap procedures, the point is less recovery time. Plus you consider the sedentary nature of our work, really there's no reason why we can't go right back to work. It's not like we're doing any heavy lifting.
The only thing that would require we take time off from work would be some sort of hand or arm ailment.
I think most days it is good for me too..
Helps my psyche.. LOL.. I don't think any of my friends understand why I work when I don't have to. I'd just have to say after so many years of being a struggling parent and growing up poor, working hard is just stuck in your head. No matter how much money you have, I just always feel it's never enough because I've always been in the survival struggle mode and I can't let that go. I also am sooo independent. I like having my money to pay for my kid's schooling, vehicles, homes etc..I want them to get a good start on life. I don't want them to struggle like I did. Everything I make I give away, I feel, to others who are less fortunate. I think I've work extra this holiday so I can give to my kids..and give to my relatives who have kids and who were not being able to give them a Christmas. God has blessed me and I feel good giving it back to those who have not been as lucky as I have. AMEN>>>>
Good old days
Unfortunately the "good old days" are long gone! I think the world in general is in such turmoil it's hard not to get negative. The news has one disaster after another, gas and food prices continue going up and wages don't increase at the same rate, if at all. I guess trying to be positive is a lot tougher these days but what is the alternative?
As an afterthought, my good ole days were as a 7 year old playing hopscotch and jumprope outside with my friends or going swimming, playing Miss mary mack" (God I know that dates me); and waiting for the ice cream truck to roll on up so I could get the one with the gum inside; also having a mad crush on Davey Jones of the Monkees! :=) He was sooo cute! Just days of simpler times and less problems.
They good ole days are still here....sm
I starting MT'ing in 1984, just out of high school. I make more money now than I ever have doing MT. Believe me, there are great accounts out there. I make 1 K a week plus. I count my blessings every moment, especially reading these boards and so many of my fellow MTs are struggling.
Believe me, it was a long hard road getting to where I am now. I have been working at home for 18 years now doing MT, editing, QA, my own service, etc. You name it, I have done it.
Now, I have a "good life" with less stress, make great money, and can feel good about my job again.
Good things don't last forever, so they say, but I am holding on for the ride of a lifetime or the big crash that may be coming.....LOL!
These are my good ol days
First being of course growing up where all I had to worry bout was studying in school and getting good grades. All four grandparents were alive. Grandma & grandpa teaching sis and I to dance the polka to Lawrence Welk. Then as I got older going up to other grandma's and sitting for hours talking and talking (I miss those days). Then the good old days were when I joined the Army and became independent. Doing what I wanted when I wanted. Good old days after that was being an Army wife working for the education center in Germany making $6.10 an hour and hitting all the factories (crystal, porcelain, you name it) still with over 1/2 my paycheck to bank, going out to a german restaurant and getting a huge meal with drinks all night for about $5.00. Buying an Audi for about $8,000. Traveling all over Europe, Greece, Spain for what seemed like pennies. Came back to the US and it seemed to go downhill from there. I did start MTing in 1989. Good days then was when we had two incomes. Now I'm grateful for my job. I love it. Work at home for 2 different companies but keeps me busy from 7am til 10pm with breaks in between. Only one income so am grateful to work at home where we only spend $10 a month for gas and I don't have to maintain a "working" wardrobe. I'm grateful for what I have but it is very depressing to see everything sky rocket. What used to cost me $100 a week for groceries I'm now spending around $200. So while I am grateful for what I do have I sure do miss the good old days.
Try Amazon. Look for Betty Marks. She has a couple of good ones.
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The good old days Remember?
I don't wish for this topic to be sad at all. But I have to get things off my chest. I am remembering the good old days of being an MT. I am even remembering the 1980s although those good times led to our recession now. But anyway, remember when you could make 1K a week at MTing, with job security and benefits? A boss who valued you like gold, because he/she knew you had special skills? When customer service was not just to the client but to each other employer to employee and visa versa.
I am hanging onto the mustang I bought in 2004 by a thread. It is practically brand new with low miles, because I can't afford the gas to use it. It has 1 flat tire and 1 spare because I can't afford new tires. And I pay 504 a month for it. Think I can afford that anymore, when my lines don't count spaces anymore, or when the health insurance costs take up most of my checks? I am not complaining. I thank heavens I get to work at home and don't have to pay for clothes, gas, and day care.
But remember the days of big incentives that were reachable? 14K lines and you were a star? 12K lines a week was an embarrassment and now 12K lines a payperiod and you are amazing.. Remember eating steak? At a restaurant? Cruises. Being able to go shopping and not having to give an account to DH of every item spent? Having clothes for your kids as they grow out of them that did not come from good will?
Please share the good old days here. Even if it is when you typed with tri colored carbon paper and white out, but your boss said thank you every day, and the doctor was not so nasty. Then, the less great days as time when by 2K when computers were upgraded and no more cherry picking because you were now using Transnet. THose were STILL good days because they paid training and downtime.
Enough of me. How about the good old days from you? And it does not have to be about MTing, could be about anything. The days when Metros existed and you could get 45 MPH. Or days when Bazooka gum was a penny. Things like that. Looking forward to your response and BTW: TGIF, even to those who work the weekend!  
The good 'ol days ---
--- were when you could greet people at the airport or see them off, right where they got on the plane. The entire airport was accessible back then.
- Taking a long driving vacation through the Southwest, and being able to afford the gas.
- Being able to afford my pets' vet bills.
- The days before HMO's, when healthcare wasn't 'managed' by cost analysts & pencil-pushers.
- Not having to buy the generic brand of EVERYTHING.
- The days when everything was brand-name, and there WAS no generic!
- MT work was a real JOB, and not just sweatshop labor.
subscription to Good Old Days magazine.
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your husband was a bad boy! Enjoy your well -earned, good days!...nm
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Good point...I'll pay $10 only. :D :D nm
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more advice - you'll be no good to those kids if
I was there - for 12 years - and my sanity was going - married to a passive-aggressive (oh and there are female passive-aggressives out there too *hint hint - his MIL*).....and I couldn't take it - when my child was 7.....and by 9, I cared more at that moment about what I was feeling (brink of possible loss of sanity/stability in myself) - and I chose to save myself - I, once again in life, became my own hero (I did the same at 17-18 when I chose to leave a shaky home)....I knew that I'd be an even BETTER mom if I didn't have him draining on me - and so it became!! My offspring is nearly 27 and turned out great (no thanks to the DH and my D there isn't for DEAR but lots of other D's).....
Save yourself or your children will NOT be getting your absolute BEST.....
best of luck to you sincerely!!!
Signed: Better to raise kids in a happy divorced family/house than a miserably married one......
It's a good cry, though. I'll bet if hubby watches,
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Good morning ya'll! I have a story to share and need your help!! sm
A good friend of mine, Kathryn Bryant, from Columbus, GA, entered a “wish” contest sponsored by Pantene. She has been chosen as a runner up and was flown to California for a personal interview. Her wish is to create a program for disabled children that helps them feel accepted. Whether she wins or not is up to us because it’s based on the people’s choice. Pantene is one of the sponsors of the People’s Choice Awards and has posted Kathryn’s and two other ladies wishes on the www.pcavote.com website. Please use this link to go to the home page to view her video and watch her "Wish." And then VOTE FOR HER,PLEASE!
You will see the Pantene banner ad at the top of the page. Click on “pick the winning wish” and you will see her there.
As a friend of Kathryn, I felt compelled to get the word out on this. If you could help in any way,I would greatly appreciate it. She needs our votes. The kids need our votes!
OOh I hope she wins!
Wow, a couple of people need to take a couple of happy pills!
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I make around $50,000 but I work 7 days a week and long days, although I'm not a fast typer eithe
I think even if your fast, you'd still have to work more than 40 hours a week to make that but I could be wrong.
I remember those days too, but these days they don't want make any child felt left out. They wan
to make each of them feel special and that they have accomplished something. My 8-year-old brings a certificate of some kind during the day, accelerated reader award, trustworthy award, jr. achievement award, etc. I guess in a way, no one kid is pointed out as the "teacher's pet" or have the other kids being jealous of him/her for getting this or that award.
thanks! :) I'll see if he'll ask some female friends SM
Thank you everyone! It has been great reading all of your responses! Goodnight!! "See" you all tomorrow!
Hugs,
Chickadee
about 30 days, < 30 days pregnant (nm)
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My mom had a couple of
brothers who wet the bed until they were about 13! There was no abuse and it was a model household. Bedwetting is very common in boys. My brother also wet the bed until he was about 7 or 8. He quit when he got a brand new bed. My step-dad (ignoramus!) thought that proved he was being lazy, but this is a phenomenon that happens a lot, that a new bed stops the bedwetting. Michael Landon even made a movie about it.
My daughter wet the bed until she was about 4. (My two boys never did.) The solution for her was simply waking her up at about 12:30 every night and walking her to the bathroom. After about 3 or 4 days (I am not exaggerating) she never wet the bed again. That is all it took to train her body to wake up when her bladder was full. I'm not saying that it would necessarily work for this child, but I am saying that his mother, winner that she is, probably never thought about how she could help him solve this problem. It might be easier than you think.
Other couple....
If other couple are that into sex that they like hanging pics around and acting out in front of people, maybe they are using him for a third person (if you get my drift...) Lots of people in that lifestyle that you would never know about.
I have a couple (sm)
Inis, which is a perfume from Ireland that smells like the sea, and Amazing Grace by Philosophy. I am looking for a new scent, though, as I have been wearing these for a while. Am interested in Dune by Dior and the lily of the valley perfume....hmmmm
A couple from me...
My nephew (now 27 years old) used to day "pink-honk" for ping pong and "cowadoctor" for helicopter.
I also hate to hear "ax" for ask.
here's a couple
feminine products and birth control. they are the dumbest commercials and do they really need to advertise them anyway?
I took a couple....(sm0
...English (the 6-hour) and Psychology. Basically, what you save is the tuition, not the study. You'll see people on various forums saying they studied for 23 seconds and passed, but don't believe it.
Study guides vary in quality, so I can't really advise you on that except to check reviews on Amazon and places like that, and also make sure that it's one that covers the current exam because CLEP does change them.
The exams themselves aren't "tricky", but they do require you to know the subject.
A couple of thoughts.....sm
The pain could be from either the swelling, peripheral neuropathy or a blood clot. You should see a doctor right away as if you have a clot it could break off and cause a stroke or heart attack.
sometimes in couple relationships
one couple is the _leader_ couple and the other is the _follower_ couple. It may just be that after a period of time, this couple is feeling that they want to spread their wings a bit and establish their own traditions...and just don't know how to communicate that to you without hurting your feelings (which hurts because of the noncommunication and you are left to wonder what is going on!).
You have extended your offer for your New Year's party. Maybe pick a time when you know that no one will be home at your neighbors and call to leave a casual message that even if they have something else planned, they are welcome to drop in for whatever time they could spend so you and yours can wish them a happy start to the new year. Otherwise, I would just let things play out. When the time is right to talk about what is going on, you and the other family will know it. Try to keep an open mind and a good relationship.
I have a couple of techniques.
I read the bible in bed. It is the only book that I am motivated enough to keep redirecting my brain until it focuses on the message. Otherwise my brain keeps doing what yours is, reaching for the same addictive ideas to obsess over.
Are you aware of any thoughts that trigger relaxation? There are just a few memories I can conjure up that cause the relaxation to start. Like lying in my grandmother's hammock in the sun, listening to leaves rusting in the breeze and the occasional motorboat buzzing by on the river below. Ahhhh, I'm there.
Another one is swinging on my swingset on a very sunny day in my back yard one sunny summer day. Overhead there is the occasional sound of a prop plane high in the sky, sounding like a big, lazy insect.
If you can remember something like that and have your mind go over those details and allow yourself to relive the relaxation, then you are "meditating."
But I didn't figure out how to even recognize this until I took biofeedback.
(But I also use melatonin, Effexor and lately Benadryl to help my annoying brain, and I can tell you there are meds that cause BIG problems for me, like Topamax).
just a couple more ideas
Some good ideas on stretcher.com and suite101.com for using leftovers. I always end up with a few tbsps of corn or fresh peas, carrots or other veggies. I keep a bucket (icecream) container in the freezer and add my veggies to that and then make veg. soup. I also save the juices off of roasts, hams, canned veggies if not used, etc. and put in freezer in ziplock bags to make soups or even gravies. Good idea to freeze in ice trays and add as needed.
I have to include my favorite daytime lunch for myself. A batch of instant potatoe soup in a jar. There is nothing hot that can be quicker. I gave everyone one I knew a jar of this for thier desk last year for christmas.
Potato Soup Mix
1-3/4 cups instant mashed potatoes
1-1/2 cups dry milk
2 Tb. instant chicken bullion
2 tsp. dried minced onion
1 tsp. dried parsley
1/4 tsp. ground white pepper
1/4 tsp. dried thyme
1/8 tsp. turmeric
1-1/2 tsp. seasoning salt
1 tbsp popcorn butter flavoring.
Combine all ingredients. in a bowl and mix. Makes 6 servings. Place in 1 quart canning jars to store. Instructions to attach to jar: To serve: place 1/2 cup mix in soup bowl and add 1 cup boiling water. Stir until smooth.
Couple of methods.
For slimming without looking like you are building muscle, jumping rope is just the ticket. Of course you have to wear really good, supportive shoes and have undamaged knees to do it.
Otherwise, yoga, pilates, working with light weights, and an eliptical machine have been my favorites.
I currently walk my dogs for my workout, but with huskies I get an upper body workout and ab workout at the same time, LOL. And dogs are very good motivation for walking if one fits into your lifestyle. :oD
couple recipies.
Cornbread salad is an easy quick one that lasts about a week so it can be made a couple days ahead of time. I do this and bring home and empty bowel every time. I also add a can of white shoepeg corn. http://www.recipeusa.org/Salads/Cornbread%20Salad%2012903.htm
Shoepeg Corn Salad - 2 cans white shoepeg corn drained, 1 lg bellpepper, 1 lg onion, 1 lg tomatoe chopped, 1/2 cup mayo, S&P, Chill. Make a couple days ahead of time. Can double or tripple recipe.
Have recipe for Italian chicken roll ups like cordone blue with ham, cheese, italian breadcrumbs, olive oil that you bake and can slice or serve whole, make ahead of time or serve cold after baked.
Also Chicken roll ups that you do with chicken, green onion, cheese, lemon peper and roll up in crescent rolls, mix remaining with cream chicken/cream mush. and bake.
If you have company you need to throw a breakfast casserole in fridge for breakfast next morning, just bake and serve.
sorry should be couple of months.
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I loved the first couple of those they did but since then
it has gotten just too cutthroat for me, and the people they have on there are not likeable enough to make me want to root for any of them.
I read a couple of them too
and thought they sounded really nice, especially the ones on Friendship and Marriage. Congratulations to you both!! I hope you find just what you're looking for.
I say there are a couple of things to look at....
1. What would the apartment or extended hotel cost? I'd look at the latter because a lot of people use them when they commute. With gas being $3/gallon and him making a 4 hour total commute a day it is probably cheaper to do this.
2. With his job, is there any way he can change his work hours to avoid the worst of the traffic?
3. If it were my husband I'd probably be willing to do it just until we moved because I wouldn't want to drive 4 hours a day myself! However, I would miss him being at home but we'd talk a lot on the phone while he'd be at the place he's sleeping at.
A couple inside
If you want to put together your own curriculum, sort of in the Charlotte Mason, classical style of education, there is nothing better than
http://amblesideonline.org/. They kind of lay out a plan of study for you for each level, and most of the materials can be found online or free at the library. My sister is using it for her 2nd and 4th graders.
Another one that I use for lots of extra printouts is
enchantedlearning.com
In fact, I was just printing out some of the Christmas worksheets for my 2nd grader to work on.
I have a couple of questions
When is your daughter's b-day? I.E. is she "young" or "old" for her grade? Also, is she involved in a lot of extra curricular activities, sports, etc? I had a child in advanced math and one was just too tough so he took it later on. Really I see no harm in waiting either.
A couple of suggestions are.....sm
1. Buy baby clothes/onesies in 3-6 month or 6-9 month size. Everyone buys the newborn/0-3 stuff and moms always love it that I give them something for the child to grow into.
2. Make the mom a basket of lotions, bubble bath stuff, etc. for her. She'll appreciate some extra pampering tools!
Here's a couple for you -- you pick!
1) I was on the phone with my boyfriend sitting on a no-back barstool. I was rocking back and forth against the wall when the barstool went out from under me. It not only went under me, the leg came back to jam me up the rectum. Of course I dropped the phone and immediately started yelling, IT HURTS, IT HURTS!! My boyfriend stayed on the phone all that time and my mom had to pick it up and tell him I'd have to call him back later I just gave myself an impromptu colonoscopy. Talk about red!! My butt hurt for like a week. I couldn't even poop for 2 days after that.
2) My boyfriend (now husband) and I were making out in an orchard one night. Afterwards, he took me home and the next morning I awoke to find my entire backside covered with poison ivy. I also noticed I was missing about $60 I had shoved into my pockets the night before. I immediately called my boyfriend and explained that it must have fallen out of my pocket in the orchard. Since $60 was a lot of money to me then (now it barely fills up my tank), I asked him to go back and look for it. Lucky for me he found it and I used it to buy some Calamine lotion. Man, did my butt itch for a week. We still laugh about this one. 
couple things
maybe get a prepaid? i did that when i first got a cell and would buy the minimal minutes and they would last for like three months, but had to purchase more minutes before the time ran out or the number would change and the minutes would run out. when i purchased more minutes, the other minutes were added to the the ones i bought.. hope that made sense.
also, i have heard that you can have a phone and not have any service, yet still be able to dial 911 and get through.
Couple of ideas
If you decide to go gray and have hair color other than blond, you might want to color it an ash blond so the transition won't be so obvious.
I have dark hair, and when my gray roots grow, it looks weird ... I think it looks worse than a blond with dark roots.
My skin and hair is really dry (worse with age), so I only shampoo my hair once a week and, if need be, just wet it and use a styling product on it in between.
Olive oil (just use cheap stuff) is a very good conditioner. Coat the hair and put plastic wrap around it for a bit. Seems to come out fine with shampoo after.
I also leave regular conditioner in my hair after shampooing. Helps quite a bit.
Let us know what you do. :)
couple of thoughts...
In no way judging you... I have 3 teenagers and none of them "demand" anything -- they know they enjoy the priveleges they have as long as they show a solid record of making good choices. If they don't, they lose internet, cell phones, driving cars, privacy, etc. Possibly you might be a bit more afraid of husband's reaction than your daugthter is? If you're not telling him, she's got you right where she wants you -- silent. A united front with both parents in agreement would be a good approach. Her moral compass needs some adjustment from the both of you. You don't want her to end up in rehab while you raise that unexpected grandchild!!! Best of luck!
A couple of more suggestions.
I experienced this with both of my daughters. The oldest was trial and error, but with the second, when I found out she was skipping school, etc., I took her to her medical doctor for a physical to make sure everything was okay and to get an expert opinion. We also had HIV testing done to let her know the seriousness of the situation. Then I took her to a psychologist who said this was normal teenage behavior and she did not have any mental problems. We had counseling sessions (me, Dad, and daughter) together and alone. The psychologist also had her keep a diary. It wasn't easy but we got through it. I just found the situation easier to handle with professionals involved. As parents, we need all of the help we can get.
A couple ideas.
Here's a couple ideas...
First, if you have a hobby where you make things that can be fun. I'm a quilter but haven't gotten to the "money making" part. I've made lots of table runners, bags, lap quilts, and other little things here and there for family and freinds. They all say I should go into business but I don't feel I'm that good yet, plus the expense to buy the supplies to make the projects would cut into any profit made. Another way to go which my mom (she got me into quilting) told me about is to purchase a quilting machine. They cost about $6K, but people charge $25/hour to have the quilts quilted (this is for large quilts like queen and king size and anything too big for your sewing machine). One of my freinds did a king size quilt for me and it took her 4 hours.
Second idea and this could really pay off is this. If you have a digital camera or scanner there are tons of ideas, most of which I have entertained and am still looking at this (just get caught up MT'ing and never find time to "get into it"). Anyway...with the digital camera you can take photos of people possesions for insurance purposes. I read on a website quite awhile ago that some people were looking for someone to take pics of their possesions so they would have a record of them for insurance purposes. Or another idea is if you love to take pics of anything and everything we have been looking at stock photography. If people like the pic and want to buy it you would get royalties. Another idea which I have started doing (not to make money though), but if people have slides or photos they want scanned in for whatever reason. I also have photoshop and have been restoring old worn out photos. I've also been scanning in slides that my DH's grandfather took of my DH and his siblings when they were growing up, and then more slides when they came to Germany to visit us. There are literally over 1000 slides for me to scan. Also they didn't take real good care so am using photoshop to get rid of a lot of spots, lighten/darken, fix colors and the results are fantastic. My husband says I really have a nack for this and has been encouraging me to take some more advanced photoshop classes to look for work using photoshop. I understand they pay quite well depending on the job. It's been a blast seeing my DH's childhood and I'm having a lot of fun organizing the pics. Once they are all scanned in, then I will be creating CD's to give to his siblings (he has 3 siblings), plus his mother.
Another idea I was thinking about, which my DH told me I should do is offer services to people to help put their photos and family history into albums for them to pass on to their children. There are lots of grandparents out there who have tons of intersting stories to tell, and am sure lots of wonderful photographs. I thought about putting together some kind of busness where I could record their stories and type it up and somehow match photos with stories. I'm doing that myself. I've been doing genealogy research now for the past 20+ years and am having a blast creating a family history album with stories and photos for myself (even though I don't have any children to pass it on to), but I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who just don't know where to begin. I don't know how much time that would take or what anyone would charge for it, but I think it would be fun.
Hope that helps a bit. Sometimes all one needs is a fresh idea (or two).
MTing can get tiring. Especially when the hands start cramping up. Everyone keeps saying you have to take frequent breaks, but if I take frequent breaks I don't get my work done and I don't get paid.
Well I see a couple of things here (sm)
You may not like all of my answer but take it from someone who knows from growing up in a "blended" family. The one who is "not your grandson" is obviously jealous of the attention you give his brother and is resentful at having to babysit his brother when he is only 8 years old. 8 year olds don't know how to babysit and discipline a 6 year old sibling - they don't even know how to take care of themselves! I have an 8-and-a-half year old. No way would she ever be in charge of another child or be left alone. I am assuming the dad of the 6-year-old is your son? WTH is wrong with him and his wife? I know if you say much to them about the way they are raising their children it may cause a problem but they need to be in charge of the household. It sounds like the 8-1/2 year old is expected to practically raise his half-brother. Doesn't sound very fair to me. I'd probably be ticked off too. Why don't you try getting there earlier on Sat if you know they are up and inviting both children to visit with you together? That might be a good place to start.
A couple of options
I would try to host your own. They should be understanding that you want to celebrate being a new couple doing the family things. Or you could go to one on Thanksgiving day, the other on the day after and then do the opposite for Christmas Eve and Christmas. Ask your husband what he thinks, certainly he knows his family well enough to be able to know how they would take it.
I had it done a couple of years ago too
It really was not that bad. My understanding of why they only will do two quadrants at a time is that it is because they will not numb up both sides of your mouth at one time, so it is an upper and a lower quadrant done together.
My sister also had to have it done last week, but the weird thing is they only said she needed two quadrants done (I believe on the same side, so upper and lower). She or I neither one could get our heads around that, so she decided to "treat" herself and have the other two quads done as well.
Also, I do not have dental insurance, but had bought a plan from dentalplans.com (had the Patriot Plan at the time I had this done). It was about $90 per quad with the plan, but around here it was $300 per quad without the plan.
Good luck!
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