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A bit harsh. For me, I am Christian, and though I don't

Posted By: think paganism is good, I also SM on 2006-11-09
In Reply to: I'm going to Heaven and you're not. - Plain and simple. nm

think you should live the way you think is right. In the end, truth will prevail. As a Christian, I will pray for you just as I do others. 


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I don't SAY I'm Christian, I AM Christian. It doesn't matter how many 'pages'
need to be ONE item and I wouldn't shop there.  "...people, just like the rest of us...", "these types of attitudes..." hmmm...well, I stand by my convictions, it doesn't mean I'm judging anyone. It's my choice not to shop at stores that sell gay and lesbian related items. Say you're lesbian and your with your partner, and we bumped into each other in the mall, I wouldn't be disrespectful to you, but that doesn't mean that I agree with your lifestyle either. 
So very harsh -
And if the shoe were on the other foot? What if your daughter or granddaughter were raped and you forced them to carry a baby what would remind them every single day of the trauma they suffered.

You may think it murder but it could cost you far far more than you could ever imagine if you forced that decision on your daughter or granddaughter in that situation. Harden your heart a little more because they would never forgive you. Truly, NEVER forgive you.
So harsh.
I think he loves that little girl.
How truly harsh you are
My grandson also comes into bed with his mother, as he has had nightmares and he is a very well-adjusted, very bright young boy, who is cared for and loved a great. He has a great deal of sympathy and compassion for other people and their feelings; in fact, he knows not to say anything cruel or hurtful to anyone, and act with kindness toward others. Perhaps you need to remember that. His very much a boy, and has a great relationship with his parents, and I seriously doubt that he, or the other children mentioned here will have any perversions or be maladjusted in this life. It is people like you that go around calling others sicko that I fear.
harsh
If you are not ready to settle down, then I don't really think that is his fault. 28 is pretty old to be going out all the time. Sorry if that is harsh :)
Wow! That's a little harsh, don't you think?
I disagree with you that

'nothing makes it the woman's fault?'

I don't think so!

Call me old-fashioned, but I, and I think also other people, have in general the tendency to
'condone' if men sidesteps rather than women stepping aside.

I, myself, I would never have something 'on the side', it's against my nature and morals.
I may have been a little harsh in some of my posts
and if so I apologize. I truly do feel bad for you, I have sisters and I know I would be devastated. I hope someday soon you can both put this in the past and make up. I'm sure Thanksgiving may be a bit sad this year for you but I hope you can find some happiness and enjoy the day as best as possible.
Wow! A little harsh, but true :) nm
x
Not to sound harsh here BUT -
Freedom is not free. The military is there to provide a function in our society. It can provide wonderful opportunities for young people, provide them with a good education and training, BUT there is a chance they can be called to go overseas to fulfill a contract they willingly signed. I would let my children go in a second if they chose that route. I am at least 5th generation military myself. Quite honestly, kids these days have a better chance of being killed in a car accident than in combat. Look at the true statistics. You might feel better if you spoke with the recruiter with her. Just my two cents...Best of luck to her! :-)
Harsh punishment but . . .
like you, I don't agree with this sort of behavior at all. But what recourse does the school have? These days, kids communicate widely via the internet. When one child writes something evil or threatening about another child in a blog or sends bullying emails, parents go straight to the school and ask that something be done about it. In the same vein, shouldn't the school do something about their own teachers being bullied? Most schools now address this sort of thing in their parent/student handbooks.

We can leave this up to the parents, but sadly, lots of parents aren't doing their jobs, either monitoring their children's activities online or teaching them appropriate social behavior. In and of itself, this one comment about a teacher isn't so threatening, but the bigger picture can be pretty upsetting.

I have a friend whose teenage children drive me insane. I can barely keep my mouth shut around them. I would love to sit them down and tell them how obnoxious they are. They are profane and will curse in front of adults and then tell us that we're just uptight and "what's the big deal". Many times as I speak to my friend on the phone, her children will start a conversation with mom while she is on the phone to me. That's rude in itself, but the foul-mouthed comments about their teachers, etc., are horrible. Mom does nothing about it, in fact, she joins in with the remarks. In recent months, I hardly talk to my friend on the phone anymore, because these sorts of things were happening nearly every time I speak to her on the phone. That may not be relative to this situation, but it's an example of the kind of "support" that schools get from parents.

I think the school has to have some say over what the kids are doing online with respect to school, but 10 days total suspension is an awful lot.
Think I was too harsh in my comments to you sm
I apologize, I am very raw right now from undeserved treatment by DIL so when I saw your posting title, it bothered me. I love my grandkids so much that I would welcome a list of "rules" if one were presented to me. It's too bad she uses the Bible, I have had this done to me more than once by those who misunderstand the good book and use it as a weapon. I certainly would have a heart-to-heart with her, don't lose your temper, and let it be known that interpretation of the Bible is a very private affair and she should never mention demons, bring a Bible to your home, etc., etc. Give her the option of playing by your rules and an option of her only playing children's games, watching a movie, etc., and keeping her opinions to herself. Give her supervised visiting priviliges and then you're off the hook if she doesn't accept. If she persists, then she truly is in need of psychological help which is not up to you to provide. Give her the choice and if she chooses to keep it up, then you'll have no recourse, little kids don't need this. At least you tried, it's her choice to not adhere to your rules, unfortunately, she's missing out on a lot, I wish she could see how lucky she is to be "talked to" and given options. Good luck with it. Hate the sin and not the sinner. I once had to lay down the law with my sister and the Bible. I have made it clear that I won't tolerate Bible talk, she can come any time but the conversation has to be light, not inappropriate, not religious and no politics. It has worked pretty well, once in awhile she has a slip and has to be reminded but we are talking - no religion, no end-of-the world,no Jesus talk, it takes reinforcing every once in awhile. Good luck with it all, it's stressful.
i didnt mean to come off harsh
i just dont understand and that is simply because i have never been a smoker
I dont think anyone should ever start because it is addictive and I am aware of that, but there are also other ways to quit. i just was saying it doesn't sound like you really care.... which is completely your choice.
It is not harsh, this is justice for all.
The doctor who performed the IVF is as guilty as this woman, maybe even guiltier (more guilty).

They should go - hand in hand - either to jail or to the looney bin.

Children should get adopted or government takes care of them.
Way harsh? Oh come on. We are all adults here.

This is not a out of the blue tragedy.  She sat for two months with lousy paychecks coming in.  Why?  That is her OWN fault.  It would have taken one for me to get movin. 


What is wrong with saying get up, get moving and get a job?  What is the alternative? 


There is no good in crying over something you CAN fix.  Maybe the OP NEEDS to find strength now and not be babied. 


For the love of Pete! 


harsh landlord?
If my tenant fails to pay his rent, I cannot make my mortgage payment. Times are tough all around!
I know it is very harsh...the thing is I have asked her so many times (sm)
and the things she says are hurtful to my children. I am not petty and it is not over something small like candy or just having a difference of opinion. The things she says to them really scare and upset them. She let them watch a woman giving birth on TV once when they were very young...I had not explained yet to them exactly how a baby gets out...they were both very upset. She also has told other family members that she believes my husband is a child molester and that he has made my son, who is 11, gay. My husband is not a molester. My son likes girls. He has no idea she ever said that, but if he ever heard that she did, it would probably be very devastating to him. Each time I have sat down and tried to explain to her that we don't expose our children to this or that, and that we don't teach them to believe that there are ghosts or demons after them, she says she is a grown woman and can say whatever she wants to and gets all teary-eyed and wants to cry. Then later she yells at me, "oh, yeah, that's right I'm not supposed to say anything." She kept the kids while I was gone overnight this past weekend and I specifically asked her not to say anything that would scare them. She let my daughter invite a friend to sleep over. She told them all about ghosts and demons and how she once saw a demon in her closet. The girl sleeping over got scared and cried to go home at midnight. My daughter called me on my cell at midnight crying because her friend was scared and going home and she was also scared. At what point do I draw the line?
Are you harsh posters cops or parents?
A little late to post, but here's my idea as a mom of 5. Get her out of the house, some place public, Starbucks or the bookstore - a place where she won't storm off and you'll both be civil to each other at least for a few minutes. Tell her you love her, be understanding and really talk to her. Ask her what is going on in her life, is she stressed about something in particular? Don't alienate her. There is a lot of life ahead for you both and this is not a permanent condition for her. If ALL you do is punish you risk sending her off in a bad direction. At the end of the conversation it may seem you got nowhere, but she'll think about things and hopefully be a bit less impulsive. Please post back and let us know how things go.
And being Christian,
it's okay to try and take a cheap shot at me? Hmm...yourself.

You would see me with my husband for your info.

You just still do not get it. Wasting my breath.
what i have to put up with as a Christian
I cannot pray in public.  My children cannot pray in school.  Basically I can never mention God in any conversation w/o being called a fanatic like I am some kind of third world kook ready to strap on a bomb.  My children and I can hardly watch TV anymore because of the language or sexual content.  Even most commercials are to explicit for my young ones to see.  I cant even hardly watch the news anymore w/o screening it first.  I cant go to a store or a public place with my kids w/o them being exposed to half dressed women/men.  Sometimes we get to be exposed to men dressed as women or vice versa.  I cant go to the movie store with my kids and browse through the selections w/o seeing many, many movies with lesbians or gay men on the cover of the movie boxes, lying in bed half naked.  So, this is what I have to be exposed to daily and this is what my INNOCENT children have to be exposed to daily.  Dont tell me I am not tolerant. 
Now Tinks, you should know better than that as a Christian. sm
I, too, am a Christian, but I don't think it was very kind of you to tell her "you are not as selfless as you want everyone to think." That was mean.

Remember what Christ said? He said to season our words with love and be gentle and kind. You can post Scripture all day long but until you model gentleness and kindness I doubt many will listen.

From one sister to another....
Prayers for you - I am a Christian and I truly believe (sm)
that she is with God.  A person as good as she was certainly does not go for eternity anywhere other than in God's presence.  I believe this with my whole heart, and I hope that you can too.  Don't even think about the doctors' part in her death.  Just think of it as God wanted her home, and so he took her.
Christian Dior
I love their lipsticks and lip glosses also.  I like the darker shades like shades of brown or pinks for summer.  they have pretty good staying power.  a bit expensive though but worth it!
wow that's mighty christian of you
you people remind me again and again of why i'm not...
Dr. Christian Troy

No, I haven't heard his Australian accent.  In fact, it was only recently that I learned that he's an Aussie!  I have no idea how they do that.  Joley Richardson does, too.  I think that's why she speaks so slowly.


The season finale only left me wanting more, as per usual.  It's really dark, but so "out there!"  I just wish they'd do more shows!


Dr. Christian Troy
Oh, so smokin' hot!
Oh believe me, I know what a pushy Christian is you see,
I am a pastor's wife and I see them every day, and mostly in church on Sundays. You know the people who care about what other people think and who forget about what God thinks. You know, those types.
way to go you christian jerks
I'm Christian and it really irks me to see that he was being harassed by Christians because he doesn't believe in God. That is not a description of true faith by any means. Those soldiers destroyed their witness to him and that in itself is a sin... this man will never come to faith if he continues to be treated like this. I wouldn't want to either if I were him.
am a Christian, but it is really a tradition
of man; the Bible doesn't tell us when Christ was really born, and doesn't authorize Christmas as a Christian holiday, tho it still has a religious flavor, it is certainly not a religious holiday in the strict sense.
There were both secular and christian surveys done and they

all came out to be about the same result. Next, you'll ask me for proof. When I have a few spare minutes I'll try to find the links. In the meantime, you can search the net and likely find them.


See my answer, Teresa, below and you will see about the Christian
thing. You never really know another person. I would have never thought my father would molest his own flesh and blood but it happened and yet he was a very "Christian" man to the others in his community. Sounds like the people in the neighborhood when one of their neighbors murders someone and they say "well he was the nicest man, never would have thought he would have done this, quiet, kept to himself" - yeh right.
The Christian community has always thought they were better than everyone else.
Religion has often been the catalyst of wars...hence the one we are in now.
Actually, if you're a strong Christian
and grounded in your faith, you are going to wear it everywhere you go because that is what Jesus instructed us to do. Our job on this earth is to preach the gospel to all people so that they might come to know him.

I'm sorry that it bothers you (and don't say it doesn't because it obviously does) but if you don't like the the posts of Jan, mammamt and others who have chosen to profess their faith then don't read them but please don't knock them down.

I know this is an absolutely futile argument but I just had to throw my 2 cents in there.
do the christian posts intimidate you?
Maybe you're afraid you'll read something that convicts you? It has happened, you know.
CHRISTIAN MARRIED COUPLES
or Partners in Christ; Partners for Christ; Christian Couple Dynamics 2007?

I like to name things. I will be back after I take my "power nap." Hope it works, I have 10 more hours to work!
I, too, am a Christian. I totally agree with some of what you
said; however, she is not putting her husband in an impossible situation.  He CHOOSES to be in the impossible situation.  The Bible plainly says that a man is to leave his father and mother and stick with his wife.  He should be man enough to stand up to his family and tell them if his wife is not included he won't be there either.  Of course, they ALL should work to resolve their differences.  Somebody needs to get to the bottom of the matter.  If the difference can't be resolved, though, he should stick with his wife.  No, he shouldn't have to choose between his wife and his family, but sometimes that's just the way it is.  If my husband was not welcome in the homes of my parents and my sisters, I wouldn't go either.  When I married him, WE became a family first and foremost.  
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Are you a Christian? If so, you should be ashamed of yourself. I am so sick of sm
women, especially women, who degrade other women, especially when they are a Christian. I swear, if it weren't for my strong relationship with Christ who draws me to Him every single day, I would hate everything Christian because of those who judge and throw stones and think they are so much better than everyone else. Let me tell you - I am a Christian. The only different between me and the atheist (I used to be one) is that by the Grace of God I am saved now. That is it. I am no better, not one bit, than anyone else. You will never win anyone over with statements like the one you just made.
Christian chat room
I would like to know if there are any Christian chat rooms for medical transcribers
judeo-christian ethics ??
does it have to be Christian values - or would Jewish values work as well - does that bible someone is holding to include the old testament as well as the new ????
why only Christian? (inside your post)...

This is why we have to get religion out of it........why only Christians should be president of the USA, the melting pot of the world....?  Makes absolutely no sense to me....


Plus, I thought we separated church and state when I was like 5 years old (going back many decades)....


Perhaps someday somebody who practices Hindism or Buddhism might want to be president....


 


from a practicing devout Christian
we should indeed learn about different religious beliefs -- but God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33). There is ONE faith, not many (Ephesians 4:5). He has outlined in His inspired Word what the 'church' consists of (Eph 1:22, 23), how it is to be governed (Elders, deacons and their requirements), how it is structured (Christ is the head), how we are added to it (Acts 2:47, 2:41). Christ 'built' His church (Matthew 16:18), not the catholic church, not the lutheran, baptist, mormon, etc., but His church. I do agree in being respectful, but also in stating the Biblical truth in a factual matter. And remember, we are not to add to or take away from His Word.
and the doc to call is Christian Troy!
Smokin' hot, hot, hot! 
Christian the Lion-if you haven't seen this
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/christian-the-lion-the-full-story/2949035966
as my version of "born again christian"
is a person with that pitchfork on their shoulder still and for life - oh I forgot, you will get to heaven because you are a "born again christian"...well not really, just a sinner who wants to get to heavan in the worst way!! Good luck..I'll be there before you..I lived a good life and do not need to spew hate and intolerance. How sorry I am for you. By the way, if you are a christian, is this the way you act?? Oh, I forgot, yes it is. You ARE THE BEST AND THE PUREST!! Excuse me.
LMAO!!!!
In my opinion, and as a Christian and Christ follower, you should be
upset that Christmas is termed "offensive" to a lot of people and that so many other religions want to use the birth of our Savior to "take time off work," "exchange gifts," "cook elaborate meals," and the like, YET, they don't want to use the term CHRISTmas when shopping, etc.

If people really wanted to stand by their convictions, I like what my husband has to say: Offer those who don't believe in Christmas the opportunity to go to WORK on those days instead of enjoying the time with their families on that special day since they seems so "offended" by the term Christmas.

Christmas is what it is. As Christians we shouldn't get into heated debate about it, but stand by your convictions that it is wrong to be "inclusive" or say Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings! The bottom line is that this time of year is special and celebrated because of one thing: The Birth of Jesus. Get mad. That's the truth. If other religions want to start their own holiday then make up a reason and go for it. I won't be offended if I go into a mall or store and they begin shouting or saying "Happy To Be An American Day!" Good for them. Just don't ride on the backs of the birth of our Lord and then try to take the CHRIST out of CHRISTmas!
Oh, Lord, save me from your Christian followers.
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As a Christian I have to stick up for Pat Roberts and television sm
evangelists. They work hard for their money. They earned their money. If you don't believe in what they are doing, then don't give any. Plain and simple.
After Katrina hit, Pat Roberts and his ministry set up camp down there and helped thousands of people (I saw it first-hand), which leads me to believe that the camps he leads in Africa and Asia, etc., must be real. He "take" other people's money and then distributes it where he feels led. What business is it of yours if that is what he is called to do? And why do you think he has to live in a shack because he is a t.v. evangelist. God is an excellent God and is not sloppy. He wants Christians to live in the Promised Land, full of riches and honey (it is clearly in the Bible). It is called God's blessings. You should read up on it.
I'm sick and tired of Christians and nonChristians who think that just because you live in a big house or drive a fancy car that you are not entitled to it because you are an evangelist. Pat makes money by writing BOOKS and speaking engagements, too, which earns you A LOT of money. Bill Clinton earned 38,000,000 in speaking engagements after his first year of leaving the oval office.

Our pastor who leads a very large congregation, lives in a gated community and drives a Mercedes. I love the guy! What an example! Hey, I'd be worried if he preached the Gospel and about living in the Promise Land and lived in a trailer behind on his auto payments. Please. He travels the country, has written several books and also sells real estate, ON TOP of his large ministry.

Soooo many people are totally misinformed about t.v. evangelists. Just because they are asking for money they think that all the money coming in goes to furnish their lavish lifestyle. I have done my research. That is NOT TRUE!! They make their money in a lot of other ways.

Pat is a rich guy, but he certainly does not make it through giving. Neither does Joel Osteen who pastors a church of 20,000 people. He has a median salary and lives in a mansion.

So, quit being so sick and tired of these t.v. evangelists and all that they have. Have you ever thought for a SECOND that God has blessed them IMMENSELY because they faithfully serve Him and obey His word? God blesses those HE chooses.

Peace to you.
Ashley is married to the guy that played Christian on (sm)
Y&R.  His real name is Christian something or other.
i'm athiest and I agree. Christian holidays have been
easter bunny, santa claus. It almost seems like businesses are exploiting your beliefs by pressuring you into buy bigger, buy more for your family than you did last year.
Chanel Allure or Christian Dior's Ja'dore.
Love them both! :)
I'm very disappointed, but not in what you call "anti-Christian posts."
Have you heard this famous quote from St. Francis of Assisi: “Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words.”

He was a very great man who encouraged Christian action and greatly discouraged people preaching AT others.