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A apologize. I need to emphasize. I quit watching moral filth about 3 years ago. sm

Posted By: What? on 2007-11-28
In Reply to: By the way, YES, a resounding YES, I am against sm - What?

I still love the food network, PBS, and DWTS but not anymore. I refuse to see R rated movies. Filth in, filth out.


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My hubby quit 3 years ago.
He is sooooo glad. At his dad's funeral recently he had a pack of tissues in his pocket. His brother in law thought it was a pack of cigs for a second. That was one light momement on a tough day.

Margaret's list idea is great; I've used that for other things.

Replacement activities are good too ... having a new thing you do, like a walk at lunch, or drinking chamomile tea or something new and different to help mark the change in your life.

And it will be like you gave yourself a raise! You could start keeping track of how much you are saving and use it for vacations or clothes or whatever treat you'd most like.

(That would be plants for me).

:oD


I quit cold turkey 10 years ago, YOU CAN DO IT!! nm
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I quit (I am still fairly young, so only smoked 8 years), but
I feel so much better. Even if someday I get lung cancer despite having quite, I am thankful to not wake up coughing every morning and to have clothes that don't stink and to be able to tell my kids not to smoke without being a hyprocrite. I can tell them why I quit. Mostly, I just feel better for the time being and that is enough. Plus, I save A LOT of money because cigarettes were darned expensive in Washington state.
Both my mom and aunt have had very good success with it. My mom, smoker for over 40 years, quit cold
turkey and says Chantix is the best drug out there - she tried everything!

I see that there are mixed feelings about this drug as with all drugs. Works for some and doesn't work that well with others. Sorry to hear about their experience!
I stopped watching a couple of years ago....
whatever did happen to Carter? I loved when he was on there. How in the heck did Luka and Abby get together again??? I know he was with that nurse and her son and that's it. I did see one commercial where Abby was pregnant? I'm sure I'm way out of the loop now. It just ain't like it used to be.
mine is to get rid of the clutter and filth in my house
and i'm not waiting for new years, i started yesterday. On tuesday i had my last final for the semester, and now i feel unbelievably free. all this time with nothing i have to do except completely rearrange and clean my house.
And for me, I have moral objections to having my daughter take this....sm
We are raising our children to understand that sex is something you wait until you marry to undertake.  Now I know tht is how it may not turn out, but I feel like giving this vaccine to young girls is like saying go ahead and have sex, you will be protected from HPV and genital warts.  We might as well make it mandatory for all young girls to go on birth control pills.  This is just my opinion on this and how I feel.  I will "jump through the hoops" if the state that I live in requires it to not have it administered to my child. 
I agree with moral principal and ethical value
Yes! Our leader should have those without a doubt.
It just shows the current moral climate of our country...
you can advertise a site offeriing help to have an extramarital affairs but don't try to push anythig that has anything to do with morals or values such as church, God, taking personal responsibility, etc. Very troubling times indeed.
I truly apologize, too.
Good Lord, I am actually crying now. This is going too far. I am so very sorry for sounding mean to you. I regreted saying that don't you accuse me thing after I submitted the post. You are a good person to come back with you note. Let's be friends. Life is too short. Thanks again, and I am so sorry if I hurt or offended you or anyone by that.
Hey, no need to apologize to me!

It's totally cool if you don't agree with something I said!  You asked for other's opinions and that was mine--that maybe he just is concerned for your health.  However, if it's a control issue, that whole alpha male "I'm the one with a penis and it's your job to produce my children and be my trophy wife" BS, then I'd be looking for an out too.  That's mental abuse.  Marriage is about being a team and being supportive when the other is down and out.  If you've tried the counseling thing and you know he's being insincere, what is going on is totally unhealthy and life it too darned short for that, I agree. 


Yes, I think she needs to apologize
for giving the answer she did above talking about a wonderful mother when in actuality the person is an enabler of people getting over on her.
don't apologize
I DON'T think you were wrong to send the e-mail (don't be surprised to discover that it all went over their heads, though). You did what any normal person would do & probably waited a good long time to do it. Even if someone convinces you that you were wrong to send it, that "wrong-ness" is NOTHING in comparison to your huz' family's behavior, & if you start apologizing for the e-mail you will totally dilute the effect & allow them to pounce all over your letter & play up their resulting hurt feelings without taking responsibility for how they have treated your husband. I say Let it stand & be glad you stood up for Huz. Don't let guilt get in the way. They are the ones who should be apologizing to YOU.
Don't apologize

Never apologize for your feelings.  They are YOUR feelings and they are valid.  Your FIL and his wife will find a way to gloss this over and of course their friends will believe them.  I think you rock for doing what you did.  That took cojones - even if they were angry cojones. 


Unfortunately, I have found that there are a lot of people like this who claim to be Christians.  They give the rest of us a bad name, IMO.  I worked at a church for a number of years and it left a very bad taste in my mouth for most organized religion.


As to your husband's situation, there are no words to express what you're going through.  Maybe your husband needs to know - when he's a little stronger - that Dad knows and did nothing.  Maybe that would help him with the final break from his family that he needs and set him on the path to building his own life.   You need to tell his therapist and let his therapist guide you in making that determination.


I personally would be inclined to terminate all contact with his father.  Sounds like your kids won't necessarily miss him and your husband may be healthier for it in the long run.


Good luck.  If you yourself are not already seeing a counselor, I would recommend it highly.  Your husband is going to be in long-term treatment as an outpatient and it would certainly help you as well.


Don't ever apologize for something you enjoy!

It's a huge part of your life and there's nothing wrong with that!  We have the most wonderful neighbors who are crazy Catholic...I mean they wear rosaries bracelets, have multiple Catholic-esque bumper stickers, and they carry bibles the way most people carry a PDA.  However, they are the most genuine, sweet, and fun people I have met on my little street here.  I love having them over just to shoot the chit, share a bottle of wine, and love hearing them talk about their religion, which is a HUGE part of their lives.  They are happy, friendly, and they love life and that's what counts.  They know I am what I am (atheist) and while I know they say they pray for me, they don't make me feel at all uncomfortable and I think they honestly enjoy my warped view of the world.  Gives them some perspective of what else is walkin' around out there ;-) 


Nice people are nice people, no matter what their (or lack thereof) religious convictions may be.


So I will apologize to both posters
the one who called me looney and the other who called me juvenile. Sorry if I offended you both...I find this board to be both a comfort and a place I can vent and hopefully help those who ask for advice or help with terminology. I don't want to come off as rude...I was just feeling a little hurt, as I would never call someone here a negative name, as I feel we are commrades...Hope that makes sense....I will shut up now and let this go...Just feeling sad that my good intentions turned sour. No hard feelings? None here.
of course they will, but she said her grandmother did apologize.
I just hope for some forgiveness, as well.
I apologize to both for the miscommunication. sm
One of the things you always must allow in this electronic medium for is that I might miscommunicate my meaning...or that you will misconstrue it.
And I truly apologize for that post.
Completely out of character for me. I don't talk good my ownself, truth be told. Since I'm way too old for PMS, I have no idea why I felt so cranky and aggravated, so please accept my amends. I've seen worse, but that's no excuse for insulting another person, even if it was meant to be a joke. I truly believed it was a put-on, just to pull legs. :(
And I truly apologize for that post.
Completely out of character for me. I don't talk good my ownself, truth be told. Since I'm way too old for PMS, I have no idea why I felt so cranky and aggravated, so please accept my amends. I've seen worse, but that's no excuse for insulting another person, even if it was meant to be a joke. I truly believed it was a put-on, just to pull legs. :(
I apologize for coming off rude
That was not my intention.

You just said you are just starting out - wait until you both are more established before jumping into something so final. When you both are making more money, then $2700 a month might be doable with all of the other expenses that everyone has.

Seriously, sit down with a piece of paper and a calculator and add it all up including whatever you spend on gas, groceries, car payments, credit cards. Then think about how much your utilities will be at this new house. Unless you have a TON of money saved up or you are getting help from an outside source such as family, there is no way that you can pay $2700 a month just for your house payment with the income you have right now.

You have plenty of time to get into the "perfect" house but do not ruin your finances/credit to do it too early.

You could always move to Georgia - you could afford an awesome house for half of that price here!!!!! And gas and everything else is cheaper! :-) Good luck with everything - just be smart about it, please!!!! Use your head not your heart when making these kind of decisions.
I truly apologize for this Octomom question
I consider myself intelligent, really, and maybe I'm a dolt, but I have one really simple question:  How do you get eight babies from six implanted embryos?  twins?  I'm confused.  Is is just me?
yes, but I did apologize for being the spelling police.


I apologize. I was generalizing and I don't mean to insult Catholics as a whole.

It is my understanding there is a Vatican I and a Vatican II and that one is ultra-conservative and traditional and the other has sort of a more liberal (for lack of a better word) approach.  So I am sure that not all Catholic churches and all priests are like this one priest.


Also I apologize for the homosexual/molestation remarks I made in my original post.  That was uncalled for and was a terrible thing to say.  Not all priests should be categorized that way.  I was angry with this one priest and obviously didn't have a stronghold on my anger when I first posted.


Thanks for your responses and for not being offended.  It would have been very easy to tear into me for my generalizations.


I have one more question.  My son-in-law to be said something about if he and my daughter were to be married by a justice of the peace, they could still get married in the Catholic in the future should my daughter convert, but if they were to marry in any other church by any other man of God, there marriage would never be recognized in the Catholic church nor could they ever get married (again to each other) in the Catholic church.  Is this true?


This is all just too legalistic for me. 


Looking to quit my job.
I had recently 2 weeks ago barrowed $2500 from my 401k in order to make ends meet during the holiday season.  I am unhappy with my current employer and would like to look for another job but they say that if I leave before that loan is paid off then I will have 3 months to pay it back (i cannot) or I have to pay tax penelties.  Well my question is,would it go on this years taxes or next years taxes if I quit before 12/31 
I have never taken anything to help me quit, but (sm)
I have quit several times for years at a time, and I always did it cold turkey.  The only way I got through it was because I TRULY WANTED TO QUIT.  Is it possible that they really don't WANT to quit, they just THINK THEY SHOULD?  This may not make sense to a nonsmoker, but that is the point I am at now.  I know I should quit, just don't want to, and I don't believe I would no matter what I took.  It's a mindset, I think.
Then just keep doing what you are doing and quit
complaining and live with it.
Quit your job -


But I wonder how many people REALLY quit going
to these stores. I know my SIL never quit WalMart even though she was devastated because "they" (whoever they are) were taking Christmas away from her. Seems like a lot of talk but not a lot of ACTUAL action.
will you quit attacking - I never said....sm

I never said anything bad about Koreans or him being Korean - you have no idea who you are typing at on this board...I am so not racist and so tolerant but you'd have no clue about that. 


At the time I posted it was a 23-y/o Korean THE DETAILS of the details of who did the shooting had not hit the newswires UNTIL THEN.


Please get over yourself.


 


Quit tripping
I hate no one but I sure dislike him quite a bit. If you read my post correctly, I said HE wanted Iraq to share the oil, that means we do not have, correct?? Useless conflict, lost lives, another Viet Nam and might as well cut your losses and leave. Over 2000 years of unrest in that land and the US is supposed to change. Ha! I for one am so glad about the standoff being him and the senate with him being unable to afford his war anymore.
Yep, me. I quit my hospital job sm
to work at home just because I got tired of some mean people in the office complaining I was always in the bathroom. Like I really wanted to be there.
I quit 3 months ago!
I feel great! I can even be around others and not have a craving. I am just starting to be bothered by the smell.

GOOD LUCK! YOU CAN DO IT!!
Quit nitpicking

Isn't this one place we can type without worrying about doing something ridiculous like making a typo or a spelling error????  I sometimes get more anxiety about posting on here because everyone nitpicks it to death with the spelling and grammar I about hyperventilate.   Most of these messages are typed out so fast and in between files, that it is how it is.  Give people a break and remember people in glass houses should not throw stones.    Have a good day. Bet it makes you feel superior to be the first one that posted and pick apart her message.


By the way I have only used Stedmans and love it. 


You know what will happen if we all quit
There will have to be money coming from somewhere to replace the tax revenue lost if all of us wicked smokers just up and quit (or died, whichever!). They already decided we could do without the transfats and took those away from our McFrys; Salmonella risk caused many places to get rid of genuine cesar salads because of the raw eggs; and some places have banned pate. They may start slowly hitting the US consumer with a Twinkie tax- $1/pack, $10/carton. Those McFrys, even without the transfat we knew and loved) will have a $0.10 surcharge each (eek, I can't afford to supersize anymore), and I'm afraid that it will take a mortgage if I want to get that Chantilly Lace cake from the bakery.

Fat people and smokers- the last two groups that it's okay to make fun of in this country, and dang if I ain't both!
How come she quit this one? I miss her, too. -nm

My father quit at 65...........sm
after practically a lifetime of heavy smoking. He started when he was just a boy, which was common back in the 1920s. He quit at 65 and lived for 20 years before being diagnosed with lung cancer. Of course, we have no way of knowing how long he had it because he never really had any symptoms until about 6 months prior to his death. His cancer was found on a chest x-ray for pneumonia. It was inoperable as it was behind the heart and could barely be seen over the top of the heart when he had the x-ray.

I thought his death would make me stop smoking, but it hasn't. I have smoked for about 25 years now and I know I should stop but I haven't found the will power yet.
first, quit the guilt
If you have been burned by someone repeatedly, and they still want you around, they have to be open to your verification to gain your trust. He doesn't respect you enough to get help and stick with it, as he has proven repeatedly, so why should he be surprised if you want reassurance of his activities. If he doesn't want to change, then there is nothing you can do to make him. You have to decide if it is really worth hanging on. Is life apart from him really that much worse than with him? I would advise you to see if there is anyone you can talk to who is an expert on addiction and those who live with addicts (you didn't say whether you have a counselor available or maybe a support group). FWIW, I've been there, and I would never give a man as many chances as you have. It is your life. Reclaim it for yourself!

My point is that the e-mail check is not what you should worry about. How his problems affect your life/sanity/sense of self is what you should focus on.

Good luck!
I took it to quit smoking...
and can't say that I noticed any effects whatsoever, except that it did help me quit smoking.
Quit assuming...
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Quit concerning yourself with "normal." sm
What works for one couple is completely irrelevant to what works for another couple.
It only matters what is comfortable between the 2 people in the relationship.
Every single person has a unique preference of what is the right amount for themself, and we're lucky to find someone we're compatible with in that manner. Some idea of "normal" shouldn't be your gauge.
It doesn't matter if my husb and I only do it once a month if that's all we feel like doing. I don't care that anybody is doing it 3 times per day. It's irrelevent to my relationship.

Quit being so sensitive...nm
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Also quit with Chantix

I smoked over a pack a day for about 20 years.  October 2007, I starting taking it.  I took the first 3 weeks out of the 1 month pack and went in for a hysterectomy and stopped taking Chantix after that, but never started back up again. 


My husband, smoked 2 packs a day for at least 20 years, also took Chantix for 1 month and has stopped smoking.  He quit last January (14 months ago).


I did get VERY depressed on this medication and often had thoughts of suicide.  This went away after 3 months of not being on the medication but it was a horrible experience.  I think they now prescribe an antidepressant to take along with the Chantix. 


All I know is I could not have done it without them.  I love not being a smoker and cannot stand the smell of it anymore. 


GOOD LUCK!


So just quit charging when
you pay them off, but don't 'close' it?
Oooh! One more and then I'll try to quit

I used to work in a convenience store about 20 years ago and one time this guy walked in.  He was a -regular-.  Anyway, he walked right inside the door, looked down at his muddy boots and proceeded to knock the dried mud off right there in front of the cash register.  It flew everywhere.  Clumps all over the place.  And then he just kept walking.  I always wondered if he did that at home, too.


People can be so oblivious!


hey - please quit feeding the troll....Thanks!
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one lady quit over my list
she was offended and said she knew how to do her job. I was a little upset at the moment and said if I was good enough to pay on time and tip consistently why could I expect my cleaning to be consistent.

Oh well my house is dirty I am exhausted and I will spend my day off trying to get caught up and start back still exhausted.
Quit cold turkey because
admitted to the hospital with asthma exacerbation and put on theophylline. That is probably the worst thing ever, sped me up, no sleeping, sweating and I swore if I could get out of the hospital never again. That was 1998 and not 1 cigarette after then. I hated the theophylline more than I loved the cigarettes. What I thought would be outpatient treatment in the emergency room that day changed into a 2 week stay. I was put on prednisone and gained 26 lbs in 2 weeks, horrible. If a doctor now says prednisone, I said what is my second choice? I am remarried and thank goodness stopped the smoking, this hubby is so much against it. I never, though, call anyone else down on their habit if they smoke because I have been there myself.
Quit worrying about what everyone else got or gets their kids. sm
MOST of it is on credit, trust me. Credit, credit, credit. Most Americans don't even have a savings acct (from something I read on line), so you know they aren't paying cash. Who cares what all the other kids get? I hate trying to keep up with the Joneses. It's so dumb.
Should I just quit answering the phone at all?
My children are grown and out of the home. I was on my cellphone today talking long distance, my daughter calls on my land phone and I answered. I have caller ID but did not put on my specs so could not tell who it was, just answered. I don’t get that many calls, mostly people selling things. Anyway, noticed she seemed out of sorts, in a curt voice telling me to call her back. When I finished I called back and asked her what was her problem. She tells me I sounded like I was angry, upset or whatever. I have told her repeatedly- if you think I am upset- ask me and I will tell you- that does not happen- she just assumes that. I told her she and her brother will never know me, never as they both assumed the same (I am estranged from her brother) Her brother used to tell me to "calm down" and I again and again and again said not upset and then that would tick me off that he continued to say that.  My children are in their 30s and 40s- I have been married to my present husband now for 8 years (although I have known him 25+) and he knows me much better than they ever did. Any suggestions? Should I just disconnect the phone? Should I let everything come on answering machine?? My pet peeve in life is to be accused wrongly and yet it continues with her. I guess could let answering machine pick it up for a few weeks and I guess that would worry the heck out of her then ----- or maybe not?
Scared to quit smoking - sm

I have another friend who quit smoking 3 years ago and now has lung cancer.  I know (and have heard of) many people who quit (ACS can tell you how your lungs supposedly improve and risk of lung cancer death diminishes compared to the general population) smoking only to be diagnosed with lung cancer after several years.  This IS NOT a mental excuse for me not to quit.  It really does frighten me.  Been a smoker for 30 years.  Seems worthless to fight to quit and die, or just keep smoking and die.  Anyone have any thoughts?  I have no one affected by my second-hand smoke.