"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
Posted By: is NOT top priority is this scenario. nm on 2008-04-17
In Reply to: In some instances they can with the consent of... - MT
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i care about child abuse, welfare fraud, and
dumping of young males to the streets, so they lessen the competition for the multi-wife thing. This is all well-documented. This is not about just polygamy -- which is also against the law, but its the abuse of children and abuse of our welfare system -- all under the banner of religion. If it was just about men taking multiple ADULT wives, the government would not likely have stepped in to even enforce that law.
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.
We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.
I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.
Parents are a child's first heroes
And hopefully they will always be their best heroes. There will always be outside influences, but in my experience, it's my mother's or father's voice in my head that most influences my behavior, whether good or not-so-good.....
Would definitely at least call the child's parents...sm
It may very well be that it is just a little kid is mad and one of those things that are very normal for kids this age to do. You know, my dad's gonna beat up your dad kind of thing. However, the parents need to know that their daughter is threatening violence towards your daughter and using dad as her back up. He may not even own a gun, who knows? I would just politely explain the situation to them and let them know you wanted to work with them so it wouldn't get blown out of proportion at school. If she is just acting in the typical manner, the school still won't see it that way because of so many shootings, and this may cause even more trouble for your family and Maya's. Don't know if you have this in your area, but our schools have the safe schools act, and it is a zero tolerance policy. Statements like that here have gotten kids expelled from school, and they were not allowed back into the public system until an extensive interview with the school administration and psychiatrist and a lot of paper work. Then the discipline is all on their record, even infractions that ended up as no threat.
I still think it should be the parents who teach the child these things, not the school's place.
Each child goes to school to learn facts. They learn their social skills, values, etc.at home and from friends that their parents allow them to associate with. The school is a public entity full of many INDIVIDUALS who all have different values and opinions. Teachers should not be teaching children their own personal values and should leave that to the parents.
Parents with child who threw teddy bear over the overpass (sm)
I would not! No would I have gone after that teddy bear. I would have told my child, "Oh, well, you threw it, you lost it." That boy is 10 years old! My rule is to never give in to anything demanded through a temper tantrum.
Oh, I beg to disagree. I know plenty of "older"
people who are in bad shape financially. They're getting squeezed out of jobs because young college grads with good technical skills can be hired for much less money. They've got a "want it now" mentality after living it up in the ྌs. They owe money on houses, cars and credit cards. Sweeping generalizations won't work on either age group. Some do, some don't. Age has nothing to do with it.
I am an "older" person with younger children. We only do what we find sm
interesting to us. However, I am proud to say that I have 10-yo daughter that can sew (and is getting better than me) and can cook. She can do these things because she really loves it! Together this year, we sewed her Halloween costume and she as Rapunzel. Yep we made the hair and everything. We spent time together doing it and she loved it. At Christmas, we baked more batches of fudge, candies, etc than we really needed but again we enjoyed the time together. And admittedly her recipe for choc. covered cherries was much better than mine as she made the white stuff in the middle :) She has more patience than I do.
Now, I can turn around and say my mother, who is in her 60s, cannot sew anything and does not even own a sewing machine and has not in years. BUT, her mother was a fantastic seamstress and made a lot of my clothes when I was young.
It is all in what we enjoy doing. Does not matter the age. If you find a little niche for yourself that you enjoy, then by all means continue bringing pleasure to yourself. If you prefer to pay someone to do these things, more power to you. Everybody has a reason to be here, no matter how small or big that reason may be.
Have a wonderful week everyone!
Welfare
How do I feel about welfare?
1. I believe in what the Bible says about if a man asks for you coat, give him you cloak also. My church teaches that we give if asked, and we have done what we are suppose to. If they were underserving, then that is on them.
2. Don't judge. When my husband and I divorced, I was raising 3 children, working, and going to college to learn to be a MT. I could barely pay the rent. The ONLY thing I did not have to worry about was food, because I received food stamps. I HATED it. I saw people roll their eyes when I got out my food stamps. I cried all the way home. On my birthday, my best friend told me my birthday gift was having my nails done (something I had never done). I went with her when she had her nails done and thought it was such a luxary. Well, she took me to get my nails done for my birthday, and someone from my church saw me there. That person went to my pastor and said they would never help anyone in the church again, because if I could afford to get my nails done, the I did not need help. Not only was I embarrassed about the situation, but I was hurt that someone had judged me.
3. Be grateful you don't have to use food stamps. When I finished school, I was elated after I got a good job and did not have to use food stamps. When I saw someone having to count out their food stamps in front of me, I was sad for them but glad that they got some help. I also would busy myself so as to not embarrass them.
Yes, some people abuse the system, but I would rather 10 people abuse the system than 1 person and/or family go hungry.
This is just my opinion. Please do not bash me. You can't say anything I have not heard before, believe me.
How do you know she will be on welfare? (nm)
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maybe she collects welfare and does not tell you.
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This goes toward the conversation on welfare below
Remember that conversation about single moms, welfare and foodstamps?
I was reading an article on MSNBC today. This man ended up in just the situation I was talking about. Read the whole article. Pay attention to the fact that it mentions medical bills and reverse mortgages.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29198366/
Has it been reported they are all on welfare, medicaid, etc??
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Thank you. Single moms on welfare are not all bad ones.
Women on here who say they have SOOOOO much saved for retirement and then talk about drawing social security burn my behind. It wasn't intended for the well-off to draw in the first place and probably will be gone by the time most of us get old enough to draw it.
This person is obviously overwhelmed with greed, wouldn't you say? In this day and age, with the greedy falling left and right, this one apparently doesn't understand that greedy behavior is no longer PC.
Matrimonial (or shackup) welfare then..I see!
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If that's not a case for welfare reform, I don't know what is - sm
Wouldn't it make sense for us (as taxpayers) to say: We understand occasionally people have hardships and need food stamps and other help; however, while you are receiving assistance, you must have Norplant (or something that can't be accidentally forgotten) so that you cannot have another child while receiving it? Otherwise we are simply perpetuating the welfare state by enabling unemployed people to have as many kids as they can, and rewarding them to do so.
Well, the former welfare recipient has her millions now & feels
regardless if it adversely affects children. She knows full well that her books are read by children. Since she has opted to make such a poor decision, I am opting to make a good decision and no longer purchase her books, watch her movies, or buy any products related to her books as she gets a cut on everything. It's one thing to have a personal opinion about homosexuality, but she didn't have to publicly link it to a character in her books.
Are you sister of poster with tax-welfare issues?
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How do you feel about Food Stamps/Welfare?
In the way home from school last night, I had to run into the Ameristop to get a gallon of Orange Juice.
Well, as I was pulling in, this lady (about 25) was walking in, sort of rough looking girl.
Well, she was ahead of me in line then and she got her food stamps out, and typically this kind of thing makes me upset. Because, you could see physically anyway, there was nothing wrong with her.
But, maybe there was....... or maybe she lost her job, and is trying to manage. Not that I was being nosey or anything, but there she had 2 Gallons of Milk, Sausage and Biscuit Dough. So, maybe she was trying to get breakfast for her family in the morning. So now all of a sudden I feel guilty.
But, if we weren't in these hard economic times where jobs were scarce, I typically wouldnt be as understanding, because I do feel Welfare is Abused.
What about you?
THEN, another thing......... maybe you will know, Sometimes you see Welfare people ahead of you in line at the grocery store or something, and they ALWAYS have "Name-brand" in their cart. Never Store Brand. Well I shouldnt say Never, but it always seems like your name brands.
Does Welfare require them to get Name Brand?
I DID NOT DRAW WELFARE. I got food stamps
only for a very short time. I was also a taxpayer then and had been for a number of years before and still continue to be. Why don't you come down off your high horse and realize that sometimes people need help. I hope that you and Amy never become disabled and have to rely on government services to help you.
"The Shack"...sm
Has anyone read this book "The Shack?" I have heard rave reviews on this book. It is said to be lifechanging. I bought this and am on the 3rd chapter.
A single mother by choice does not make them a welfare
recipient and/or a bad person. Heck, I would be more inclined to put that person as unselfish and determined. You chose the easy way out, the single mother took on her commitment and took the responsibility.
Abuse of food stamps/welfare is a MAJOR
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Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
NM
"The Gods Must Be Crazy" ! - nm
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or - "The fall alone will probably kill ya!"
Is this Boliva??
"The pope's nose"
No idea where this came from, but it's what my mother always called it.
Or...take notes from Dwight from "The Office" (sm)
Dwight Schrute: Yes, I have decided to shun Andy Bernard for the next three years... which I'm looking forward to. It's an Amish technique; it's like slapping someone with silence.
Dwight Schrute: I was shunned from the age of 4 until my 6th birthday, for not saving the excess oil from a can of tuna.
SHUN THE OFFENDER!
Yeah, but I don't think "the rod" has to be an actual weapon (sm)
I think it means to teach your kids the right way to behave - you are the parent, you be the boss, the teacher, the leader.
Am reading "The Mothman Prophecies" about this
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"The Cleaner" with Benjamin Bratt on A&E and
anything with Benjamin Bratt.
Does anyone remember "The Gathering" with Ed Asner? sm
We used to watch it religiously every year. I can never find it on TV anymore. Then, of course, there is "A Christmas Carol" with George C. Scott - the best Scrooge ever!
Alton Brown's "The Chewy"
I've tried all of the chewy chocolate chip recipes out there, and this is the best by far. The recipe calls for giant cookies, but for Christmas, I make them mini-sized, using about 1 heaping teaspoon of dough per cookie. They bake faster, so watch them carefully. I also add pecans to the recipe. I've made them with bittersweet chocolate chips and macadamia nuts, too, and those were INCREDIBLE.
Be sure, however, to really take your time creaming the butter and sugars. And let the melted butter cool to room temperature before mixing with the sugar. The creamed butter and sugar should be thick and fluffy and smooth, almost but not quite peanut butter consistency. If it's not, the cookies will go flop when they come out of the oven, and they don't look as pretty. They still taste great, but they aren't high and pretty.
I can't get the link to post, so here's the URL: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/the-chewy-recipe/index.html
Google "The Secret" and you'll see. It's about how to get what you want out of life, bus
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I just hope she and "the dressmaker" get locked up this time.
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I hate the phrase "the patient expired"
I have never liked that phrase...makes me think of spoiled milk or something. We don't come with expirations dates!!
Try googling "The Stewpot" SHould find a link there,
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Love his book "The Stand" - but that was a super flu - sm
that killed you quick. From what I have read most people live through the swine flu, no deaths in the U.S. as yet I believe. Probably like any flu, the very young, and very old have the most to worry about, and those immuno-compromised of course.
She may be asking about it as a form of birth control, too. Time for "the talk." 13 is NOT too
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I think the OP's disgust was aimed mostly at "the system" in general. Picture this...
you awaken at 5:00 a.m. after only having slept 4 hours, get the children off to school, work a grueling 8 hours transcribing for incomprehenisble dictators, while in between getting the house work done and prepping dinner until you remember you have to pick up the kids and take to practice, and you need to make one last stop out of your grueling day to stop at the market and boom. You encounter what she did. Sometimes it makes you wonder why you bust your hump day in and day out, year after year, for the mere pennies this so-called profession provides while others are getting handouts. So she had a 'moment.' That's all. No more, no less. Give her a break.
"The Party" with Peter Sellers. None funnier. Not a well known movie, but hysterical. nm
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Last night Bravo had "The 100 Scariest Movies Of All Time" and number one was ...sm
Jaws!?!?! I didn't find that scary at all! The Exorcist and Audition are the scariest for me.
Nat's "The Christmas Song" and Josh Groban's "O Holy Night." Gives ya chills!
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Please read "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin DeBecker. It can save your life. NM
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Yes, my dad's parents
My dad died when I was 18. I love my daddy, and I love my pop (step-dad). It is so sad that my children never got to meet their grandpa, but they do also have a grandpa (my pop) that loves them with all his heart. I also have a brother, who was named after my dad, and felt it only right that if anyone uses my dad's name it be his choice, not mine. Does that make sense? Thanks for your input!!!
My parents did it,
and they would say DON'T get Sears to do it. They did a horrible job.
My parents have several sm
and are very happy. I don't know how my dad went about aquiring them (he does have his real estate license)so that is probably a plus even though that is not his regular job. My parents are able to spend 3 weeks straight in Florida each year due to time shares. Two weeks at one place and one week at another. He also will swap time shares with others so they don't always have to go to the same places every year. My husband and I looked into one at Hilton Head and it just didn't seem like a very good deal to us. I didn't talk to my father first, but felt sure he would have advised against this one. This is just from my experience. I have heard horror stories from others. Good Luck.
What about your parents
Treat them as if they were your parents. Most of the time when I was married and we went to my in-laws, we knocked but then walked in especially if it was through the garage. I did the same at my parents, went through the sliding glass door. They did the same at our house. To me is is a minor thing and I did not care, thought it was great that they liked me and felt welcome enough to come on over and drop by. If they ended up seeing something they shouldn't then perhaps next time they would have called. Or if someone was there that they did not plan on seeing whatever. Sometimes we had the best last minute pot luck and card games that way. But that is me.
My parents are the same way. They don't like to
"invite" themselves along to the in-laws' houses on holidays, and won't even accept direct invitations from the in-laws because they think I pressured the invitation. My in-laws (and I) always figure "the more, the merrier!" When I host here, I invite all of my in-laws' extended families, but they don't want to come either. So we all wind up doing the two dinner thing and trying to schedule around EVERYONE. It's annoying. I'd rather rent a big hall and have EVERYONE show up for potluck. But nobody wants to leave their houses. Always some excuse, like young kids, but they didn't mind making me haul my young kids all over the state. And I'm the one in the family with the most kids. I say go anyway to the in-laws. Your parents can stay at your house alone for the evening, or they can come with you. It's their choice, but your plans are already made.
27 and 31 here, in the NE. Many other parents we
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it's not just the parents...
kids today have different issues to face than kids did even up to the 50s and 60s. Most kids are watching MTV before they are out of diapers. It's just easier to put something electronic in a kid's hand than have to act like a parent. Kids are having kids at earlier ages than ever. A few years ago I lived in south Philly and watched a girl about 12 yo with a baby talking to a young boy on a bicycle. She told him she wanted money for the baby and he told her his mom didn't give him any lunch money that week, so he didn't have anything to give her.
My situation has been different because of the abandonment issues my GD has had to adjust to... but get this. One reason I can not spank her is because she came to me with some violent behavior from her parents. Her mom would let her run across the room (to the mom), jump on her and wrestle until she was so over stimulated the baby would bite mom on the face...and mom just laughed. I could not spank her for biting me...one violent action did not change the first. I have had to learn many new techniques since I raised my kids...obviously spaking did not work on them! I was very firm with them and used spanking as a last resort, but I can't do that with this child. She has to trust me and spankings do not build trust. We have a great relationship now, but I constantly have to reinforce changing her behavior from what she had when she came to me, along with just asserting her own indpendence as she grows older, with my words and deeds, not with violence.
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