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thx to prev post re viewing how DQS spaces being counted

Posted By: sm on 2005-09-21
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i finally see now what i had heard rumored -- how we can check a previously transcribed report and see what QA filled-in the blanks.  So instead of waiting for feedback, i can just go back and check myself now, voila!!  In dQmanage, just choose your date, detail, click on job #, and instead of taking that payroll option, take the user option, and there's the finished QA'd report. Dang, wish i'd have known this before.


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You will have more lines with spaces counted.
Can you run a line count comparing a report with spaces and without spaces? That would give you an idea.
visible black character (VBC) spaces not counted SM

I just ran across this as bit long article but it is worth saving to your PC and reading a bit at a time.  I recall posting that Probity used this, I posted this meant NO SPACES and somebody came back and said they do pay for them. Boy they are really really making extensive calculation, guess always have and we did not know it.


Last year, KLAS reported that the industry appeared to be moving towards a standard


pricing model based on visual black characters (VBC), especially given the joint announcement from AHIMA and MTIA endorsing the adoption of VBC. The vision was for the VBC to be used to develop service level agreements, benchmark internal


transcription performance, foster better business relationships with the MTSOs, and improve the tools for evaluating and selecting MTSO partners. However, based on this body of research, adoption of this standard has been slow and billing per line is still the predominant approach.


 http://www.californiahia.org/Content/ul/8694//Kivi_Dale_Transcriptions_New_Standards.pdf


 


What is MDI-MD's line rate? Spaces counted? weekends? benefits? Thanks. Have EXTENSIVE MT ex
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Save your timesheet for viewing only and lock it so it can't be edited. nm
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A post from May said they paid 7 cpl with NO spaces. That's all I have. nm
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Older post says they didn't pay for spaces. nm
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In orig. post; she did not ASk if paid for spaces.
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Did you read post? OP didnt ask if pay for spaces.
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I recently saw a post about changing the two spaces after period to one at end of report. (sm)

I have been trying to search for where I saw this formula, but can't.  Any help appreciated on how to make this conversion a little easier.


I worked for 3 hours today before I remembered I was supposed to be using just one space after periods and colons instead of two.  Hard to do. 



TIA


 


Prior post said it's so-so to use, but only counts the black chars., no spaces. nm
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I know they could tell if they counted
keystrokes instead of characters, but if it is a true character count, I don't know how they would know.
Is everything getting counted the same way? Many places don't
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If every keystroke is counted, how could it not
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If every keystroke is counted, how could it not
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How are the lines counted?
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does this mean no double spacing counted either? -
offered 51 cpl VBC but not sure if that would be good or not?
I also received a check from them for lines not counted, but this was
7 or 8 years ago and mine just was not set right. It was not any big deal, my supervisor (who was a good friend) told me that it was not on purpose, just I was running an old program.
Clinton ignored bombings on US by terrorists. BTW, revenues were counted twice, SM
SS was counted twice, put in the general fund. It all looks good on paper. I dont want to debate this with you, I am bored with this and tired of repeating myself. Clinton pulled troops out Somalia, which Bin Laden himself said is why he knew America was weak. To say things in sound bites does not do history justice, and leads to untruths.

You obviously want to blame Bush for everything, even outsourcing. No history lesson will change your mind.
Agreed!!. They know exactly how they want those lines counted. That is why you hear people saying
that they averaged 200 lph at one company and switched and now get over 300 lph. It is all in how the counts are set up. Sounds like Transtech people are getting a bum deal. There has to be something to it because A LOT of people have complained. If it were randomly a person here or there I could understand but there are way too complaints not to be valid to some extent.
You know, I never actually counted my lines myself, I just always figured my company's line count
Boy was I wrong!  I just went through and totaled all of my lines, then compared them to the line counter, and guess what!  It's wrong!  Can you guess who I work for?  SOFTSCRIPT!!! 
Sometimes a gross line can equate to more than 65 counted character lines
I know one company whose lines are in very tiny font with very wide margins. The line length for those gross lines is 104-120 characters. This is almost double a 65 counted character line.

You can make a comparison of which is better by making a copy of your report (use cut/paste or lift into an expander, then copy into blank document) and run it thru a line count program set at 65.

Your definition of gross line is correct, but your equating it to pay is only good if the line length for gross lines is maximum 65 characters. MTSOs are learning how to make this gross line sound wonderful but in reality are robbing you blind.
Phoenix MedCom shows you every report and every line counted,
with Word verification. They use 2 programs,internet for the newer programs, and a word-based program for those on Lanier and Dictaphone. But their programs show the verification of the job and line count no matter which platform you transcribe on. They have two rates...the internet platform pays for spaces, and the other is not with spaces but line rate is higher.
I think most places pay for spaces. I work for TransTech and they pay for both spaces
as well as punctuation. I would never work for an MTSO that doesn't.
If you read in their FAQ section, fixed headers and footers are NOT counted as well as bolding, un-
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I just counted my specialties list. There are 37 that roll in at any time in no order:) Nice huh?
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65 with spaces versus 65 without spaces; how to calculate?

Can someone tell me if you are getting 9 cents per 65-character line with spaces how much you would need to be paid per line to make the same amount per line if you are offered a ''65-character line without spaces?''  Thank you very much


So, if not spaces paid, what cpl would be comparable to at least 9 cpl w/spaces, do you know??
Thanks.
All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
Do you think all the headers and footers aren't getting counted? Lots of places aren't giving
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54 without spaces = 65 with spaces if you do the math nm
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My post should say the post above not the post below, Sheryl's post to be specific. nm
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It's a "fishing" post. Same post a few days ago with numerous errors
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You are not allowed to post their link on this site. Post
will be removed. It was up last night and post got removed.
Read Spherson's post below, who admits, in the post, they do pay it.
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Peachy, your post is interesting, but my post now is irrelevent but
A few weeks ago I went to my clinic where they had recently implemented EHR or EMR, whichever you call it, and the doctor's back was to me the whole time he and I conversed because his nose was stuck in his laptop. To me, it felt a little more impersonal, but I understand he was doing what he had to do, but it seems like the bedside manner may go to the wayside if the doctors can't even look at you when they are asking you questions or you are speaking to him/her. I know this is relevant to your original post, but just an interesting fact that I had not anticipated. Anyone else experience this?
$.08 w/spaces vs. $.09-.10 w/o spaces
Would you make about the same, i.e., $.08 with spaces versus $09-10 without spaces?  Just wondering.  Thanks.
They do not MTs for spaces. nm
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They do not pay for spaces. nm.
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spaces
I asked them about this specifically and they said that wasn't the case. I'm half tempted to have THEM sign a contracted stating everything they are telling me is true.....Lisa
Spaces!
SoftScript just announced that they are paying for spaced again as of today!
but, did they tell you when the took the spaces away
before.  Nice to give them back and admit they took them.   Believe it when you see it.
spaces
Do most companies pay for spaces? Are spaces included in the standard 65 character count? Thanks
I know they pay for spaces,
I assumed they were paying  the headers and footers, but  I never specifically asked, so I can't say for sure. 
They don't pay for spaces though
nm
They pay .07 without spaces....
I applied when they first posted the job on MT Jobs.  I received an email stating they only paid .07 cpl without spaces.  They probably got a lot of resumes but once people found out the low pay, nobody was interested, which is probably why they are hiring again.
No spaces
If you negotiate a better line rate, along with their excellent platform, being paid for headers, and not running out of work, then I just don't get what the big deal is with spaces versus without. With spaces for less money doesn't cut it either. The bottom line is whether you are able to make a fair wage or not and I have found Cymed to be very fair.
Looks like they DO pay for spaces
CTech prefers to us the Net Line (defined below), however we will also price per visual black character and per report. For more information please see our Billing section.
I copied this from the site:
Price per NET/ASCII Line CTech defines a NET/ASCII Line as 65 printable alpha/numeric characters and spaces (no more than two consecutive spaces). ASCII table codes 13 (hard carriage return, only when needed) and 32-125 only. No fixed headers or footers are counted. The pitch and font style are defined by the client and do not impact the price per line. Attributes such as bolded letters, italics, and underlined characters are not charged. The total number of characters divided by 65 is the line count for the document.
They do pay for spaces. It says so right in the ad
They definitely do. I have an interview with them on Monday.
spaces
I was told they did but maybe it depends on the account. I've been with them for over a year and I can tell you, I'm a damn happy camper. Plenty of work, some challenging, but good, good people to work for. I'm IC and pay my own hospitalization, but what's the kick about that? You work to pay for it anyplace else and they call it a benefit. We all worked at MQ or anywhere else for benefits. I'm making over $1000 a week. I can work as much or as little, but I figure if I can't set aside some money to pay for my PTO, then I'm a pretty sorry manager. To me the taxes are no big deal. I'd rather earn a good paycheck, pay my own taxes and hospitalization than work for a company like MQ and I was there for 8 years.
They don't pay for SPACES ask them. nm
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