one space - who makes up these rules?
Posted By: noname on 2005-09-29
In Reply to: It has been 1 space after periods - MQ FT
What I would like to know who makes these new rules up? The email said new national standard, something like that. I mean, how can someone change Americas punctuation and English rules? I was taught way back when, when I first was taught typing in high school..two spaces..who changed the rules? Is there a *standards judge*, LOL..A *spacer judge*..Who thinks these things up and if it is national standard, do the other MTSO's know about it?
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DQS to use only one space soon
They are going to have the DQS people put in only one space soon..email this morning stated they are going from account to account and will notify the employee when the account is ready to use only one space after periods and colons..If we do get paid for spaces, as I have been told we do, that means we will get a cut in pay because the second space after each sentence will not be counted in our line count.
1 less space
well, imagine that!! they're on a rolllll -- 20% less on line rate for ME work -- makes ya wonder what's next!!! i think i'm getting about ready to get the heck out of Dodge before the bullets start flying!!
no space pay
the bottom line is that they SHOULD be charging the client because it is still a keystroke and this will continue to happen where we are not getting paid for what we are doing. We hit the spacebar, it is a keystroke, we should be compensated for it. Period.
Otherwiseifwearenotbeingcompensatedforspacestheytheydonotgetspaces!!!!
My opinion, of course, but I am sure that many agree.
MY Space
Oh just an FYI. Robin Hall happens to have a My Space page. You can go to it by going to my space.com and just entering /robin_hall. If that doesn't work, try doing a search for Four Seasons Transcription. Maybe we can all go there and leave a message letting her know we as MTs are tired of putting up with people like her. I am 4 paychecks behind myself and Christmas is coming.
space pay
Compensation on one of the jobs on the jobs board says:
You get paid for a 65-character line PLUS spaces!
Wow! I am sure glad they invented the exclamation point! It really makes me excited to hear stuff like this, especially when so vehemently punctuated! It's exciting to get paid for spaces, especially when they are so necessary for clarity!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pay for space
I work for a company that does not pay for spaces and it takes forever to get line count required, but I needed the job and the benefits at the time. It seems like MTs are going backward in pay per line instead of forwards. Everyone wants a good MT with years and years of experience, but no one wants to pay for our knowledge. I have seen some pay as low as 6 to 7 cents a line for a seasoned MT. One company told me they like to make the money, but only offered me 7 cents a line for 30 years experience. I like to make the money too. I turned it down. I went from hourly pay down to pay per line. Devastating too. Only make half of what I used to, but at least what I am making is paying some bills and buying food, but nothing left for anything else anymore like I used to. Very depressing.
It has been 1 space after periods
since the new Style Guidelines took effect or affect, Ha Ha and make sure you do not use your expansions. If they say COPD you cannot expand it; and what about making lists of everything from meds to past history, etc. etc. Anything to not pay you for those lines.
Oh and don't forget it is x2 not the word "times". That would be too many characters on the line and we cannot pay you for that.
What horse will you be traveling on. I'll be going with ya.
Why cant we use expander with one less space?
We havent gone to one space yet but I got the email this morning that they are working on the accounts and will notify us when our accounts are changed over. Why cant you use the Expander with one space? I dont know what I will do without my expander. When you switched over, did you take a big cut in pay with the one less space?
For elimination of one space in DQS
For eliminating one space in DQS.
Ctrl + Shift + F, 2 spaces, tab, 1 space
We do not have space for job-wanted ads. (SM)
Please feel free to post your resume on our free resume bank. As well, you can search our Job Seeker's board. The job advertisements there are very descriptive and you should be able to find something there.
Goldbird
If MTSO does want 1 space its because that 1
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55 count space
I had a PT job that used 55. At the end of my day, I would divide total characters done by 55 and that gave me my line space and then I was paid 9 cents per line which was good for my PT job which I lost due to hospital keeping it all in-house and not outsourcing anything. I miss that money too.
one space between words
I have always only had 1 space between words, and I have been typing for over 25 years. I do have 2 spaces after periods and colons, but 2 spaces between words seems a bit excessive to me.
Do 1 space and count lines and then do 2
It really doesn't affect the line count that much to do the 1 space after punctuation. I agree 100% that they are trying to whittle our wages away wherever, but I don't think this particular issue is a big one. I get virtually the same lines whether 1 space or 2 after sentences. I'm more concerned about the virtual black line that would eliminate ALL spaces like AAMT (or whatever it's called now) is pushing than just a few spaces per report. This is why it's so important for all MTs to know and understand every crazy line-count method out there!
I love Office Space...
Is it pathetic I've probably seen it 20 times and still laugh every time I watch it?
I seriously should expand my movie horizons, huh?
:D
which IC positions use 1 space after periods?
My FT job requires 1 space after periods, which took me a long time to adjust to. Now I would like to get a 2nd job as well but I don't want to mess up my typing trying to go back and forth between 1 and 2 spaces at jobs? TIA
Have you compared line counts with 1 space vs. 2?
NM
Thanks for the information..I'm with you.. Not enough desk space or desire to pay a deposit
Probably pass too..
I have 2002, here is how mine is set to double space after sentences --sm
Open word.
Type a mispelled word, then press F7 to spellcheck.
Click on options. In the writing style box, mine says grammar only. Click on settings below that. Then you can select 2 spaces after a period in sentences.
Does that work for you?
And since you obviously know the rules
Did you miss the part about harrassing other people on the board?! Enough already, I think he/she got your point!
Not according to the rules of IC
No schedule is to be dictated. Nothing that even remotely suggests employee status is to be done with ICs.
HINT: Program only "reads" 1 space, no matter how many spaces you type.
They have you coming and going.
Mostly they have us by the pocketbooks because they REFUSE to share how the program counts. THIS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL since that is how we are paid.
Would you work HOURLY for a company when they will not show you what kind of clock they are using to count what an hour is?
We are paid by production! PRODUCTION. It should not be a mystery how to count our PRODUCTION.
Banking rules indicate that you must have
concrete proof that the direct deposit is going in because things do happen. If you have your paystub with the direct deposit amount and date on it, only then you can write checks and do withdrawals. Otherwise, it's your fault. It doesn't matter when pay usually comes. We went round and round with both of our banks over this because DH's pay wouldn't show up sometimes since his supervisor had forgotten to send the paperwork over to the payroll department. It didn't matter and we had to eat all the overdraft, NSF and check collection fees. I was so ticked off at his boss, but DH would never let me go off on the lazy good for nothing.
As I recall, the IRS rules for IC ...
specify that if the company has or asserts control over any part of your working conditions, time, production, clients, etc, then you have to be called an employee and treated as such tax-wise.
This post goes against the rules and will probably get
deleted, but I'm make like a scratched CD and again state post you resume on the job boards, search the ads on the job boards.
That's the doctor's rules
They do the account the way the doctors want them done; I guess that's why they don't have a turn over of accounts so that we are constantly losing accounts and having to start over. They follow BOS unless it is stated in the instructions otherwise at the doctor's request.
rules of the board
Of course we all need to be able to vent our frustrations and state our opinions, whether everybody agrees with us or not. My problem with this board is the huge number of trolls who take every opportunity to wage a personal attack. That's taking freedom of speech to a level that interferes with other peoples' rights and I think there should be zero tolerance for it. Sure, state your opinion and argue if you wish, but leave the personal attacks and name-calling out of it. That's against board policy to begin with and too many people don't respect that rule. I realize of course that there's a problem with trolls on most web sites because unfortunately there's no shortage of lunatics out there, but I think the people in our field should be able to have discussions about issues and companies without some nut case using it as an excuse to exercise some sick need to be a bully. And yes, I'm name-calling but just about trolls in general, no particular person. These people need to grow up, get a life and realize how pathetic they are. And if such behavior continues to pop up on this site, the best thing anyone can do is totally ignore them. When you argue or try to reason with them, you're feeding their need and wasting your time. But my request to the moderator would be to immediately bar from the site anyone who breaks the rules concerning that type of behavior. It's not like they don't know they're not supposed to do it. They're just thumbing their noses at the rules and doing it anyway because that's what they do best.
I did not see any format rules.
As far as reformatting, I use macros to make formatting changes that seem to be frequently necessary.
change in rules
Do you have a contract with the specifics in writing? If so, threaten a lawyer to enforce it.
If not, time to get another job. You don't cover an MTSO's butt, do the junk shift and work type, then not get paid the agreed upon extra for that.
Talk about lack of business ethics.
I thought if you were an IC, you had no rules! nm
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Hey, I don't make the rules - the client does! SM
This is what the CLIENT has told us. They don't want us "padding" with "This is" or adding extra words to make complete sentences. I'm as bound by these rules as the MTs!
Before posting on any board you should know the rules/
guidelines. There is a link on the top of each page that tells you what you need to know and one of them is not to post account information. No one is attacking you. It is just common sense that you don't go around posting account information.
copy/paste is against the rules.. we were
from the onset to NEVER EVER copy and paste. If you are doing this you should stop it soon before they figure it out and you get in trouble.
Any company can set up any rules they want to. I have heard of a few
companies that dock you for errors. 3.5 to 4 cpl is about standard for VR from what I have seen.
BOS not written by God. Just some rules decided
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we can't name accounts, against board rules here
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Since when has our "Uncle" ever played by the rules?
If it's good enough for the big-shots at the top, then it's good enough for me.
Different STMs/accts have different rules SM
and expectations. The best way to find out is to ask your STM, because someone else's experience may not end up to be yours. Mine happens to be very strict as far as hours/lines and I will get a phone call if I am short on either for a day. I know others who have different STMs who do not have that experience.
LOL ... well, you got me there. She is very much my "baby." Someone rules this place, sm
but it is definitely not me! 
And to anyone I offended, I apologize. The poster just asked why someone said it was amazing, and I just said probably it was the no weekends part that was amazing. It's nothing to me either way. I work 3 jobs, so I do not ever have a day off. But it doesn't seem so much like working when I have my giant iced coffee on my desk and my sweet little girl by my feet. Thanks for noticing 
They follow HR rules to the letter now SM
because I am one of the people they had to pay back overtime wages to when they were turned in to the Dept. of Labor. I am talking thousands of dollars.
Just goes back to the rules and regulations of a
particular place. I guess if you did not care about working for that company, sure go ahead and erase and straight type using expanders. I really love where I am and tend to play by their rules as they are the ones giving me a paycheck. From what I read on here about other platforms using VR, I have a good thing going on. Hate to change horses in the middle of the stream so to speak.
What *rules* are these? Blow the whistle to who? sm
Statements like this are amusing b/c there isn't some big oversight committee regulating pay or what hospitals pay to MTSOs either.
Alltype changes the rules as they go to suit them.
IMO, they'll tell you one thing when interviewed, but the numbers just don't add up and definitely show in your pay. They love to send reminder emails regarding working holidays unless scheduled off, and when you do there is no work. Then, as you sit isolated from your family on the holidays, you get the peppy little emails saying check with your team leader to see if you can take off an hour here and there, and work them later in the day as you are not allowed to take ANY time off without pay (even if there is no work). Their TAT is more important that your time with your family, also IMO. If you don't/can't meet your required line count for full-time, they put you on part-time status. If you're already part-time and don't/can't meet your line count, they put you on IC status (and expect you to work their schedule with minimum line count requirement of 600 lines per day).
Management is demeaning, curt, and unprofessional, and human resources person is worse, also IMO. Check archives about email resignation that may or may not have been initiated by human resources...and be very cautious about what they (management) tell you. The term snakes comes to mind...but, of course, that is just my opinion. They used to be a nice place to work years ago when G ran it.
Using people's names is really against the rules and you should not do so. It is unprofessional.
do you? Why do you think it is right to name a person and then slam their name. If you think this is right, then tell me why? It is not right and it should not be allowed.
I agree ... the rules and the players seem to change
You can't play the game FAIRLY, when they keep changing the rules. I'm very disappointed. Was looking towards a long tenure with KS, but not at this rate. All I can say ... for anyone who wants to venture into this territory ... get everything in writing.
The book contains suggestions. They don't write the rules
they merely published them in a format convenient for us to review - save your anger for the JAHCO and the American Medical Association.
You're right - I stand corrected. So much for *rules* NM
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Probably each company has their own rules, but when I was working in a hospital sm
generally, it was 7a-3p for first, 3p-11p for second, and 11p-7a for third, not including lunch breaks.
Hope this helps.
This is what foot-stompin will get ya, Stricter rules
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I left, too. Incredibly picky account rules. No $$.
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...mentioned - faxes and patient lists and rules to
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