not doing job = stealing
Posted By: me2qa on 2006-07-08
In Reply to: I am wondering about your - Nee
If you are not doing your job and getting paid, how do you figure it is not stealing, or the equivalent????
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that is not stealing lines
if you are scheduled to work in the morning and dont get on until afternoon, the work that you would have done at your scheduled time wasnt done, leaving a higher amount of minutes when you do get on. It all works out in the end. If there are 3000 minutes in the a.m. and you type your shift, doing 200 then that leaves 2800 minutes. If you don't type in the a.m. and there were 3000 minutes, your 200 were not done.
It's not just stealing the computer...sm
They want employees to take the work use only seriously. Some have used company computer to download s/w or visit questionable sites, or allowed children to use it, and this can result in viruses, spyware, adware. In addition, some legitimate s/w (like for keyboards) can cause issues with company s/w and require a lot of time of the tech department or crash the computer entirely.
Makes sense to me, at least.
*Stealing* clients
You can steal things, but you can't *steal* a sentinent being (client) who chooses to go with you because you offer better service/better price or any combination of the two. Said client can walk away from you, too, if you don't deliver. What company does not try to lure clients from a competitor?
If the severance is minimal, you can easily get another job, and you really believe the company would come after you, then maybe foregoing the severance would let you rest easier even if the clause wouldn't stand up in court. If you really believe the company would come after you, do you want to spend time and money in court, even if you win?
stealing clients
I partially agree, but when a person uses insider information about a client's setup, preferences, etc. IMO that is stealing. You're using privileged information in an inappropriate way. So strictly speaking, a person hasn't stolen the client, but they stole the information they needed to get the client's business.
No lying, stealing, cheating at all.
And I am entitled to my opinion. I didn't say all MTSOs are ethical in their business operations but most are.
Seriously, if you read over the board, it looks like a few oldies who are bitter or newbies who cannot get their foot in the door. It doesn't sound like professionals with realistic complaints. It sounds like very withdrawn, angry individuals who do not come out of their shell except on anonymous boards. :)
For the MTSOs who are unethical ... I think they should absolutely be shut down.
Still yet, no one forces you to work for any company. It is entirely your choice. So, make a different one, please.
Be happy.
Wouldn't that be stealing work
Maybe they are running out of work and unable to meet their minimum because YOU felt entitled to extra money - ever think of that? One reason most employers insist on approved OT is to keep us from screwing each other this way and assuring everyone gets at least their minimum hours! How thankful are your teammates for your help, I wonder?
Stealing FROM, not FOR! whew, i'm already tired this morning!
Gonna regroup, ha ha
Not enough work to go around....Stealing from Peter to pay Paul
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It was referred to as stealing in a conference call by mgrs. sm
Your equation doesn't always prove true if there is little work, if a person's primary account is an overflow account, or if it is the last few days of the pay period. If people are scrambling to get jobs on their shifts and someone else comes along who doesn't normally work that shift, but is just doing so out of convenience for themselves, they are taking lines from what little jobs there are from the people who abide by the rules and what they had been asked by management. This is most definitely stealing lines from fellow MLSs. Perhaps you have been fortunate enough to have a primary account that always has heavy volume, and that may account for why you had never been told this by management. But, a good share of accounts aren't like this, and this has repeatedly been addressed by management as a problem issue. If it wasn't a problem, upper management (Larry) would never have brought it up in conference calls and in email.
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