learning Escription/Edit Script
Posted By: Sue on 2007-10-13
In Reply to: I want to learn escription - ready to try
I work for Focus also and there is nothing hard about learning Escription---it is very user friendly. The test is learning the shortcut keys to become a faster editor. There is a website that comes with this platform that will teach you the shortcuts, plus there is a great forum board to learn from other MTs. I love the platform, but still working on speed.
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ESCRIPTION/EDIT SCRIPT
I know Focus, Superior, DeVenture and Proveros use this platform. Does anyone know of any other companies who do?
I edit for Transcend on accounts using eScription. sm
I really like it, make more money than transcribing, and am in and out of more reports. And it's a lot easier on my wrists. I've always found the people nice to work with, in spite of the horror stories being related about the hiring process.
I have no experience with any editing programs other than eScription being used at Transcend/MDI, but you could request assignment to accounts using eScription. One thing, since new accounts (ones often needing new employees) typically are transitioning to VR, you could start out heavy on transcription of reports as the computer learns to take over that job, with a few weeks of lots of corrections to eScripted reports, and then finally doing almost all editing on a trained account. I think it's going to be that way on any account new to VR with any company. Transcend did adjust the pay rate as the account I was working on progressed so I never lost money and eventually ended up making more. Good luck wherever you end up.
What could be more appropriate for learning the ropes than learning how to spell? You are in for a
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Just be aware that not all Escription accounts pay the same. I worked for one company on Escription
struggling to maybe make $50 in 8-10 hours. I didnt know the difference as that was my first job on that platform and I just thought it was not a money maker. Then, I switched companies. I average $20-30 an hour and once I made $50 in an hour. I tried yet another company and I was lucky to make $9 an hour. The bottom line is that not all companies are alike, even though they use the Escription platform. What I have found is that goes according to how they set it up i.e. paying for footers, headers, spaces etc. Just dont be shocked if you dont make what you think you will. The companies know how to set it to where it benefits them and not you. As is the norm, not all companies are created equal out there regardless if they all use the same platform. That is what I am getting out.. Good luck.
Learning
All of what you say is absolutely true. I probably also am one of the higher paid MTs around today and I don't do it making 6 cpl. I have continued to learn for the past many years and will continue to learn to the last day working out my notice, that's just me. I don't think MOST new MTs are ever going to see the day they will make $25/hour or even close to that. There are reasons other than money, and I don't care to post them, that I am leaving MTing for.............gourd painting.
Learning VR.....sm
If an MT with many years of experience on EXText and a variety of other platforms were determined to take a PT job to go ahead and learn VR, which would you think is the best platform to do that on, and which company would you recommend for doing that? Any and all information appreciated! TIA....
learning VR ?
If you continue to use your mouse tomake corrections, then there is nothing to learn.
But if you decide to use 'hot keys' or 'short cuts', then there is.
It is said that letting go of the mouse usage, will speed you up. I do not know if this has been proven yet.
I am a 'mouse' person and I just cannot let go of my 'mouse.'
I assume a lot of MTs are like that.
Maybe there busy learning their new
I think someone posted before that they were getting like 9 new accounts. So, maybe everyone is tied up and can't really take a coffee break. I'd be stroking those keys too if I was making 9.5 cpl (their starting rate per one post). I'm glad there's at least one company out there that pays well. I really don't think though that someone working there for only three months could really have anything bad to say. I think someone else posted that KS promises lower health insurance premiums soon so that is a good thing.
I am interested in learning more...
Please email me at dmorganzack@yahoo.com
Any new account will be a learning
Just mix it in with your experience all around. You should be fine.
Learning curve
I'm not going to toot the speech making money horn, but I think it's a learning curve. I'm having a hard time giving up my mouse but still doing about 3 times the work and saving my wrists in the process. TT has offered a refresher course and paying us for taking it, I think that's not only smart on their part but good for TT MTs. Speech is here to stay and I need to suck it up and go with the flow, still too many years before I can retire.
VR learning i s a myth
VR is not taught by MT in most cases because it is *back-end* voice recognition program. VR can be taught by the dictator on *front-end programs but most docs don't care to spend the time doing it. After 1-1/2 years of doing VR, and being told it would *learn* over time, I found out that was a lie. I have brought to bosses' attention the same errors in docs' formats, the same errors in punctuation, numberint, etc, etc, as requested and nothing has changed. I just do the best I can, knowing that the platform/program I work on will never improve.
I'm with you. I'm willing to take a temporary dip in pay while learning, but MQ better leave
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I love your posts - I'm learning from them...sm
Thank you again for taking the time to type this very informative post. These types of posts actually help many people, I do believe. Like you, I do all my own MTSO work and have not yet had to farm any out. My MDs are great in that they all pay me by the 15th of the following month. I pretty much demand that because the work is all back in their offices by the 30th or 31st of that prior month....so wanting to get paid by the 15th of the following month is reasonable. I am sorry for your delinquent client but my docs know I only bill out once a month and that cuts down on the billing part of being an MTSO.
What I HATE about being an MTSO....is all those receipts you have to keep all year long...but it's not the keeping of the receipts, it's the TAX PREP that we face within the next 6-12 weeks....oh what a mess that always is....not a mess - but so time consuming that I do hire someone to do that clerical stuff to get things ready for the TAX people......my daughter is the one I hire (and yep, I do pay her well to do that part of the work).
Again, thank you so much for your informative posts. Be well....
Too soon to really say. I felt I did okay the first day given the learning curve.
I am hoping my production will increase by at least 150-200 lines a day over the first few days and that should more than bring me up to speed.
Add me to the list of those interested in learning more
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I'd love to learning kickboxing
Are you in LA?
Learning curve? You mean to learn VR?
It was about 2 days for me, not much time. Is this what you mean?
IT has a looong learning curve. Am using it and you are right. I have to stop and think before ever
But, am picking up speed and accuracy is improving. It was either learn to use it or type everything out.
Thanks! Yes, I figure if I start out learning the hardest
it can only go up from here. My production is in the toilet though and being new, I have no idea how much of that to attribute to being new or having to rewind some ESL dictations a hundred times :(
Then provide samples and learning tools.
We are all only human. The doctor is supposed to be reviewing and signing these reports they dictate. Are they not? If they sign off a report that has an error, that then makes the dictating physician liable, not the MT. This docking for errors sounds like another scheme to make money off of hard-working MTs. tsk tsk
Come on, learning correct spelling is important. No offense meant.
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To Edit
Well...then you have probably missed out on some of the best job opportunities with small MTSOs. I would beware of the large Nationals...they are the ones who offshore. I don't, won't, and only hire US MTs. I also pay my MTs much more than the average Nationals and we don't run out of work either!! Sorry you missed the opportunity of a lifetime not responding to ads posted with yahoo e-mails. Your loss.
Alex-Med, anybody edit for them? (sm)
I was interested to know how they are to work for, pay on time, steady work flow, sound quality, that kind of thing. Any insight is appreciated.
Edit BP normal?
For your normals that have either an abbreviation or a long form use the following:
type bp, get BP
type bpp, get blood pressure
type wnl, get WNL
type wnll, get within normal limits
type copd, get COPD
type copdd, get chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
type cold, get COLD
type coldd, get chronic obstructive lung disease
Yes, sometimes the word cold will be used in a report, but it is so seldom unless you are doing pediatrics, that you will and should notice it. Hope this helps.
How can you edit after 2 years?
Unless you worked in an intensive MT situation I don't see how you can be an Editor after two years!! That pay is ridiculous, even beyond ridiculous.
If they are out of OR, then they offered 2-3 cpl to edit and I said NO...
It may not be them but it sure sounds like it.
I edit for them with no problems.
They leave me alone and they pay on time by my invoice hourly.
I'd rather edit Indians than VR because sm
I did that and made a lot more money on it than VR. They actually get all the words right except our slang.
Question for QAs who edit
I was offered a job to do QA for a company with a speech platform. This is not a speech editing but rather a true QA editing position. I would like to know from other QA's the pros and cons of doing QA on speech documents versus QA on typed documents. TIA.
I edit and make a lot more than
the $10.00 an hour this ad suggested. I do not see what it matters if independent or not, just a poor salary for either.
You do have the option to type or edit.
At this point anyway. Transcend has gained several new accounts recently, which has been broadcast from here to there. What wasn't broadcasted is that they also LOST several large accounts over the past year, a couple just recently. Some of the accounts that have just been added on are overflow accounts. As each account gets transitioned over to the new platform, the option for typing will be great as the VR is extremely BAD in recognizing a lot of these new dictators. Those editing on the accounts now are actually training the system to recognize what the dictators are saying.
As time goes on, the system starts recognizing more and more dictators are transitioned to editing. Once the system becomes "smart" and is working at peak performance, less editors will be needed to work on the editing aspect, as was already experienced with a very large ER account that staffed 25 or more MLSs and dwindled down to 10. We all saw what happened there. When the editors were scrambling for work they switched to typing, and were told to do so by the AMs. So think about what that means for those typing. If less people are needed to edit, where do those already working on the pre-existing accounts go? To typing on the new accounts. When the work load is low, all those shifted from editing to typing will be doing the work YOU have been doing all along.
Also, there will always be a need for some to type because there are some doctors that absolute cannot do VR. Now just imagine if you choose to type rather than edit. These are the doctors that you will be transcribing for day after day: Mush-mouths, speed-talkers, whisperers, extremely difficult ESLs. In other words, all those that the system will never be able to decipher. You may be getting a high rate for typing, but it is going to take you longer to do them because if they were that easy, the system would be doing them first. No matter what option you chose you are on the losing end of the deal. If you chose editing, it is FULL editing, not QA filling in the blanks. Depending on how fast you type, you may never be able to achieve a consistent, day-after-day 40% increase in production, but you will be taking a loss in compensation. If you chose typing, you're stuck with all the leftover garbage that the system cannot do on its own and your production still suffers. No matter which way you look at it, you will be working harder and receiving less until the point eventually comes where 2/3 of the work force is scrambling for work while the other 1/3 is popping out 20,000 lines per pay period. much like it is now. While you may have the option of typing or editing NOW, certain people in management have been telling their favorites that the goal in the future is to get ALL accounts and work types on editing. Why do you think so many "in the know" are now scrambling for or were already told about the hourly team leader positions before they were even announced?
Think about it. This is not the first mass exodus Transcend has seen over the years. That became common knowledge when they had the push to hire back all those who had quit over the changes before. Many there, even working for 5 years or more, are leaving this time. If workers have gotten bad treatment before and left in the past, as is happening now, it will happen again. A leopard does not change its spots.
Leadfeather, they expect us to edit VR because they can
They (management of companies who ask us to do this) know that most people who do MT are not wealthy people, or even average income-wise and are desperate for any work/income they can get. They use this information to their advantage and always will. You said it when you said "a few measly hundred dollars". To many MT's that's a lot of money.
Unfortunate but true.
So you edit more than 400 lines an hour?
I havent seen anyone else be able to do that on the new platform. What is your secret because I have tried and could only do 425 maximum on the best day with the best dictators on. Way too much work for that kind of money.
Seems to be the way of all the companies with VR right now. You edit so much of the report so
rapidly that things probably go back incorrect. I really watch anything that has NO attached to it because VR or ASR does not get NO many times. Also, it does docs on cell phones and that is very difficult because you just get such a garble of words that it is impossible to know sometimes what they want and what they dont want so partially the docs have to take better control of what they are doing and they have to know cell phones are unclear and yet they dictate on trains and in noisy rooms, etc and I can only assume they dont care. The whole thing is getting difficult and I know the work coming from overseas is horrible so does this mean transcription is just throwing out work anymore. Seems like it.
It depends who you work for - I get 8 cpl to edit VR. nm
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Edit the contract or THIS IS GARBAGE
I signed one of those stupid things once and when it came time to quit, I had a nice new job that I wanted to start right away, not in 30 days, so I asked the OLD company and they agreed to let me off the hook, although they were not nice about it. Ask if you can just x that part out on the contract. Why is it that the contracts are ALL one sided, nothing good in it for the MT? yOU CAN be canned in a moment's notice, but you are supposed to give 30 days. What crap.
I use Edit Script with a USB pedal
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QA must have heard it in order to edit it sm
They knew the sound quality was bad. They had to know. I worked somewhere where the doctors dictated on a tape recorder and then played it into the phone. It was a nightmare and when I said anything, they said they could hear it fine. It was not fine at all.
It was distant, the volume was low and it was fuzzy.
SGS edit line count
Been with them for quite sometime now. Lots of work, but complete full listen and extremely difficult to reach that type of line count on VR. Not to mention, there is a lot of changing of the guards per se going on in the company and it's just a really wierd situation.
Hope that helps.
SGS edit line count
Been with them for quite sometime now. Lots of work, but complete full listen and extremely difficult to reach that type of line count on VR. Not to mention, there is a lot of changing of the guards per se going on in the company and it's just a really wierd situation.
Hope that helps.
Only the NOT conscious MT's like yourself like it - such as using the exit, rather than EDIT. Heh
You will do very well at editing, because you can't spell and probably never use any expanders!
An MT cannot do editing and use expanders, so LOST MONEY right there.
I can transcribe faster than edit
I don't know which VR you are using but the ones I know of and have used require tedious work. I can transcribe faster than I can edit and it puts less stress on me. Maybe it is my experience of 30 years that is the reason and maybe others don't have that much experience but I have seen the end result of those with less experience and it is still a mess when they finish editing because they don't know any difference. Or perhaps you have a vested interest in making VR look good. Not accusing just pondering.
As long as you edit your text
what's the problem? How do they track/know if someone is using it? Sounds like a company I would back away from....now.
Sometimes takes twice as long to edit?
I just finished my first hour of VRing and I did 561 lines, that is at 4 cents a line and that equals to over $22 for that hour. I could never straight transcribe that many lines in 1 hour.
so 500 lines/hr listen through & edit???
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I edit the work that comes back from India. (sm)
Not sure why they did not tell you the truth. That REALLY bothers me.
I edit Indian work and it's pretty bad
it is still cheaper for the company to pay me an american person.... to edit i suppose...but let me tell you, if i did not, they would not be able to print any of the stuff i edit
Their ad from 7/7 offers PT for Edit Script experience. Don't
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Are there any companies left that let MTs type and not edit? sm
Please, there has to be companies out there who want straight transcriptionists and not going through SR first. If anyone knows a company that is loyal to their transcriptionists, possibly have benefits, and are honest that is looking for a well-educated, hard working transcriptionists, please tell me where. I have been in this business many, many years...but every company I contact, they are going to speech recognition. And the pay is much less. HELP!
The actual program behind it is AnyModal Edit, sm
It is hard to make money on anything that uses AnyModal Edit. I went from one company with it, to Transcend who says they use BeyondTXT, but once I got started turned out it was the same program in the background for editing, AnyModal Edit. Don't be fooled, it is very hard to get a good line count with this program. I can straight type 250-300 words per hour easily, but in this program for VR struggle to get 150 lines per hour, you have to edit a lot, this program is awful and it's faster to type most of the reports.
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