and they can afford to BUY TRANSCRIPTION SCHOOLS!!!
Posted By: Me on 2009-09-22
In Reply to: BAD - ISR pay cuts in the near future :( - Anon
...and they didn't lower the cost for the HOSPITALS! They're just pocketing all the money they are making by RAPING US of our pay!!!!!
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!
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There are schools, and then there are schools.... (sm)
and so far no one where I worked before or currently has been interested in hiring. Some schools are nothing but a scam. Others are excellent. It's the transition period from newly-graduated student to income-producing worker that has a lot to do with the MT shortage. Many newbies throw in the towel and quit the profession because even though they're ready to work, they can't get in. Back in the day, many services & hospitals would take a couple newbies under their wing (I was one of them) to basically learn on-the-job. That may not be a completely viable option nowadays, but something in-between would. Another thing that I'd love to see changed is the snooty attitude many old-timers have to newcomers to the field.
The two best schools seem to be
Andrews and M-Tec. I have been in this industry for decades, both as an MT and MTSO, and it seems that the grads from those two are the most ready to hit the ground running. I wish you luck with getting money back from TranSCAM; they have, unfortunately, ripped off many people who fall for their shtick.
Yes, these schools
just want your money because so many people who get into this field shouldn't be doing it in the first place. It takes certain skills to be able to do this and the schools don't even care if you know how to read, they just want your money. I took a $600 course and finished in 3 months and luckily I found work on this website 3 years ago as a newbie. Since then, others have talked to me about this career and I discourage them if they don't have the capabilities it takes to do this type of work. So many think that it's a piece of cake since they can already type. And it is very difficult to find a job with an internship included. And they want experience, usually 3 to 5 years. Those seem to be very difficult to find these days. I wouldn't recommend it myself and I do enjoy my job.
I wonder about schools s/m
KIds seem to be graduating now without skills in the old basic, reading, writing and arithmetic and it didn't just start recently. Another of my pet peeves is hearing people say, I'm not reliable for accidents. Good grief!!!!! I've heard this spoken and seen it written.
A lot of the crap schools do
take that as truth. I know I certainly did not. There are schools that cannot get you a foot in the door, let alone promise that you can make those amounts.
Then there are schools like Career Step who have information about grads who did/do make that amount...but they don't promise it and have never promised that their grads would make that wage.
It is very possible, but for a lot of us, it's not. We cannot really blame that on the schools. We need to blame ourselves and the companies for the the 5-7 cents a line that we settle for because, like all families, we need to feed our children and pay our bills.
I see it with colleges. You can make this much in this field, you can make that much in that field. It all depends on where you work, how productive you are, what state you are in, tons of factors. Same is true with MT, too many factors.
Nothing is ever promised, especially in this line of work.
I am just happy to have a job that I love, that I am able to have the opportunity to stay at home with my young daughter, have deductions come tax season.
Hey, I made more waitressing than I did doing transcription my first year, but does that mean I want to go back to waitressing? Not a chance. I could have made more at McDonalds, in fact, but do I want to deal with that crap? Not really.
I am thrilled about being an MT and would not trade it for the world and certainly didn't buy into the get rich scheme that a lot of those schools throw our way.
It's a shame that schools have to use that as a way to get people to attend, but it works..and let me tell you, I have plenty of people that have never ever done transcription that tell me what a cake job my job is, you've all heard it before.. I CAN DO THAT, ALL YOU DO IS TYPE
...and THOSE are the people that get backed into the corner by these schools thinkin that this is going to be something that they just type and can throw out lines like crazy and make that $40,000 a year....because we all know, MT is EASY... psshhh. Those schools should have to provide proof and stats.
Recommedations on DL Schools
I am looking to take my MT training. I want to make sure that I choose a distance learning school with very rigorous and demanding courses. I want to learn as much as possible. If anyone has any recommendations, they would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!
Two online schools
that have a record of getting their graduates placed in positions at home WITHOUT needing 2 years of experience are:
Andres
MTEC
Comparing schools
I took a quick look at their website, what they offer, and how much it costs. Are you interested in this course because they say they often hire top graduates? This course does not guarantee you a job with them. They even say you have to go out and market yourself.
As an M-Tec graduate, I can tell you that if you study hard and after graduation really stick to it, you will find a good job. You receive a large number of real books with M-TEC and not just some workbook. With M-TEC you have your own instructor to answer your questions and guide you through the course. Not to mention the online classes and vast online resources they offer. They have their own IT expert, who will answer your questions and holds online classes. After graduation, they will always be there to help if they can. They help with your resume, and after graduation they provide you with a large list of MT companies that hire new grads. Make a list of questions, submit them to the top 2 or 3 schools, and compare answers. Good education has its price, but it will also open doors for you!!
I blame the schools also.
Work at home, big money, easy job. Yeah, right. Just like stuffing envelopes.
Shame on MT schools
Shame on these MT schools saying they can guarantee graduates $60,000 per year!! Of course some say up to, which is very subjective, though very misleading. They ought to let people trying to get into this business know that unless they are fortunate enough to find the right fit, they are in for a bumpy ride.
these MT schools only care about the sm
money they can get and that is the bottom line.
On the other hand, there have been plenty of MTs on this board who have spoken against these MT schools and their advertising practices. We have said that this is no field to get into if you just want to work at home etc and that no school for four months, six months whatever was going to be enough to get into the field and that it takes years and years of working to even be qualified to work at home alone. But you know what? Everytime somebody talks against the schools and the fact that this profession is going down the tubes because of the attitude of wanting to work at home and make lots of money, we get blasted by other posters with rude and nasty posts.
Many of us have warned folks who wanted to go to these schools, not to do it and folks won't listen. They pay their money and just as you describe, they get out of school and still can't do the job.
Im glad somebody else is saying what the real deal is with these schools and these advertisements because for myself, this is the last time I will ever mention it. Some folks will only learn by doing and wasting their money. They won't listen.
Allied Business Schools, Inc.
I have had no problems getting job offers. Right now I am working for a great lady that really respects her MTs. She just got a new account, so she is growing, which is a good thing. I can work whenever I want, literally. The only she asks is that I do at least 30 minutes of dictation a day for five days a week. Of course, I will do way more than that, but it is nice to know that if I need a break for a day or two then she won't mind.s
I wish you the best of luck!!!
There are 2 great on-line schools
that are so good their graduates are hired right away: Andrews and M-Tec.
Don't accept less than the best where your livelihood is concerned.
Here my schools requirements for an externship
I am enrolled at Kaplan University in the AS degree program for medical transcription
MR203: Medical Externship and Evaluation (3 Credits) |
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Course Description
Successful completion of this course will require 90 hours of transcription experience at an approved health care setting. Students will be evaluated on the performance of expected competencies at the end of the course. The course requires a final presentation. The online version of MR203 requires each student to locate their own externship site and obtain approval by the clinical coordinator prior to beginning externship. |
Course Objective
By the end of this course, you should be able to:
- Transcription of health care dictation to demonstrate accomplishment of the transcription program outcome (MRT-1).
- Prepararation of patient care documents to demonstrate accomplishment of the patient records outcome (MRT-2).
- Medical Transcription practice within the ethical guidelines, standards, regulations, and laws demonstrating accomplishment of the standards, laws, and ethics program outcome (MA-3).
- Application of learned foundational knowledge demonstrating accomplishment of the foundational knowledge program outcome (MA-4).
- Professional communication and conduct demonstrating accomplishment of the professionalism program outcome (MA-5).
I agree with you about the way substandard schools
operate, but I would call people who fell into their traps, 'suckers.'
I am convinced that they came into this profession with diligence and the honest wish to give their best, work hard. but were overwhelmed by what they were confronted as not well- and enough-trained newbies.
They were misinformed and taken advantage of by misrepresentation and false promises.
Of course she will have a job. She had to get rid of yours so that they could afford to pay her!
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Not only that, but who can afford them?
When I started out back in 1990, I was making 7.5 cpl and after 2 years went to a different company for 9 cpl as an employee. We could afford to buy the books then because the cost of living was a lot less, deductions for insurance were a lot less, and even the books were a lot less. Now people who are starting out are faced with 5 or 6 cpl as employees or 7 and 8 for IC. How in the world can they make a living at 7 cpl for IC, let alone by all these books when the same information can be found on the internet?
I think if a person is trained correctly HOW to research, they'll be able to distinguish between the correct information and worthless information on the internet. I think it's pretty sad that the transcription schools aren't training them properly. For goodness sakes, I can't think of any school that wouldn't teach about chemistry profiles and doctor slang that they wouldn't know what chem-7 is. In my opinion, that's worse than the MT who is at least willing to research using the internet.
How do you afford it?
My line rate now is higher than that as an employee. I really don't see how I could afford to pay my own SE taxes, buy my own insurance, etc. for less than what I'm making now as an employee. I have to be honest and say that I'm really scared about this. I used to think that when some posted that they could make just as much money working at WalMart they were just stressed out that day. But, I'm beginning to think they're right. In my state (NY) our total SE taxes are 40% of our income. I honestly don't think I could afford this AND pay my bills AND buy health insurance. I don't even know if I could afford to do this and pay my bills, even if health insurance wasn't in the equation. Now I'm really stressed. 
I can...... not everyone CAN'T afford a car....
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Hah, some sure can afford it...sm
I wish I could show you the homes of one of the MTSOs that is discussed here often on this board, home, cars, boats, trips. Living the good life while her MTs are struggling.
Gee, ya think that's maybe why the original poster asked about SCHOOLS??
Amazing! Obviously brains are not too much of a requirement...Ya just had to get that dig in about how hard it is due to medical "language", yadda, yadda. Give it a break and say something we or the original poster DIDN'T know!
MQ will hire newbies from "approved schools", what are they? sm
I am considering going through a community college that has a 100 hour internship program at the end. I want to know if this will be enough to hire on as a trainee with them.
Is it just Career Step they approve of? Anyone know?
It's all those matchcover schools telling them they can make
$40,000-50,000 in their first year working at home while their small children play quietly at their feet! The only ones getting rich are the so-called schools. There ought to be somewhere to turn them in for false advertising.
How do these MT schools get away with saying you can make $40,000 per year. That is a fake
advertisement and should be banned!
Has anyone else seen ads for MT schools that promise 40,000 yearly? This doesn't appear to be tru
with my experience, at least starting out anyway.
I know of 2 MTs from reputable schools who started w/o the 2 year exp. nm
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Yep, one of the "top 3 schools" has grads that will work for this.
On the forum of the MT school I graduated from, I see all the time new MTs taking jobs for 1-2 cpl for editing jobs. Right now there are posts of those willing to work for free just to get experience. It drives me crazy. They don't get that they are driving the rates down for everyone. Why would a company pay more when there are new grads beating down their door to work for 1-2 cents per line. They don't get that they are ruining the profession they have just worked so hard to get into.
How can you afford to still be working
at that daily line count? Are you a newbie all around or just at Spheris? Great on your QA but you really need to pick up the pace or you will be moved to PT or possibly terminated.
How can an MT afford a Hummer? - nm
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So true! And most of us won't be able to afford to
Unless I decide to jump off a bridge, or lie in front of a train.
1) You can't afford the BC you were diagnosed with
I have one thing to say to you that consists of 2 words and one of them starts with an F.
Go away
I WISH i could afford to do what you did that year!
Last year 'Christmas dinner' was a third of a can of cold ravioli.
I can no longer afford to do anything except
My gift-exchange days are over til i can find a REAL job. You know: one that actually pays you to do it.
They changed their name ... check the AAMT list of schools
it shows it as being changed
It's a myth perpetuated by the students and staff at those schools. nm
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Who can afford to wait that long?
No way would I take such a job - what happens if they NEVER get paid? You work for free, that's what.
It's not common at all - you'd be better of getting your own accounts!
SPI can't afford postage meter
What kind of so-called international company still licks stamps to mail paycheck stubs and doesn't use a postage meter? I can't believe my eyes for the past few months!
Yes, I can't afford to have no work so I left TT
I dislike the turn of events as they were my favorite company. I have nothing bad to say about TT. I simply got another job.
can you afford not getting paid anymore?
Thats what it will come to. You working and not getting paid.
I would cash the check. if it bounces, then you have grounds to take her to court and get your money that way. If it clears, then you are good. I would also be reading the warning signs and just find another job. I would not go to the docs you dictate for as it is not your place. They really cannot do anything as long as they are getting their work done on time and having no other issues. You will just bother them and might look like you are after their business for yourself.
But that is just my opinion. Hope everythign works out.
Understood, but MTSO's cannot afford
to sue every poster on these boards because of their bad press, or whatever you want to call it.. defamation seems extreme, but I didn't read the comments made by the posters who are being sued. Most people here post general angst-y things about companies and if a judge were to read over the comments on this board, to get an overview of the climate and what is considered normal conversation and postings on these boards, they would probably see that this is a normal, everyday occurrence on message boards. Are they going to shut down every message board? Where would they start? As someone said, some of the angry, horrible postings in the political forums are much worse than anything said on the company forum. IMO. I believe that on these boards the MTSO's AND the MT's BOTH post angry things at times. No one is innocent here.
If you can afford to go to school, learn something else. nm
xxx
I can't afford to wait for new platform
NO WORK AND OVER IT!!!! 5th week of getting less than 1k lines a day. I started applying for other work a couple days before they dropped the bomb. I can't afford to work here today, much less after a paycut!
A lot? You've got to be kidding. Name them. "Big schools" still don't equal experience.
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I don't know how people can afford housing that costs that much!!! sm
My family lives in a 4-bedroom house with 3,000 square feet of living space (counting the basement, which is finished) and we paid $125,000 three years ago! Come to the Midwest, you can find a 2-bedroom house a heck of a lot cheaper than $600,000.
If even that much work left, and hopefully they will be able to afford aspirin. (nm)
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How can an IC making 7 cpl on Emdat afford to pay taxes?
That is the offer from Allegiant. Emdat is one of the most transcriptionist-unfriendly program going even when used properly (which most do not). Historically, an IC was payed more, not less, than an employee since there were no benefits .... but not in the world of medical transcription. This is getting down right nuts. Very sad.
But could you afford the ins? I had an offer from them, too. I really wanted to go but couldn't
nm
Ditto. Goose egg. Nada. Oh well, they can't afford s/m
an X-mas bonus for us, after buying that MT school, etc. :-/
I hope it gets better! Can't afford to sit here much longer with no work. nm
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The smaller companies just can't afford the health
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Put money back from each check. That is how you afford to pay taxes.
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