You must have a cold then. I am not now, nor have I
Posted By: me on 2008-12-23
In Reply to: *sniff* I smell an MTSO *sniff* - MT Bzbee
ever been an MTSO. When I first joined the work force I worked for a company that was part of 2 different unions. I did the payrolll and saw how much money the men paid in union dues. I also saw them be involved in a strike and saw how little money they got from the union. I also see the company bring in nonunion people to work. The strike continued long enough that union benefits had run out, so the men had no source of income at all. I don't call that progress.
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found them to be hot and cold -
Do not have time to play head games with people. Waste of my time and energy.
Aside from the fact that you are right, was it necessary to be so cold?
If you have never experienced infertility, you should just keep your mouth shut. Sorry, just my opinion.
HEY COLD HEART
What makes you think think I am suddenly trying to fix it? You must have a pretty hard life, or maybe too good of one to have that kind of heart. This isn't new, this is something I have been working on for some time. And, you know, I could tell you about the fire and the parents and all that, but you don't deserve it!!!!
Wow! That was Cold and Heartless
I am not in any way, shape or form a supporter of AHDI. In fact I despies them. I think they have sold this entire industry down the river.
I should be surprised that they treated you in this horrific way, but sadly, I'm not. They are all about money and padding their own pockets.
I did happen to get a very small raise when I got my certification, certainly nothing to write home about and certainly nothing to compensate for the expense of maintaining their credentials.
I just did it to see if I can accomplish it. I don't know if I will bother to keep it up either.
I'm sorry you had that experience at such a hard time in your life. I think we both agree that AHDI sucks...as in the loud sucking sound from dollars leaving your wallet...
Yep, it was cold and heartless
which was pretty much the tone set by the original queen bees who set the organization up eons ago. As a Californian, I saw first-hand the shenanigans. I once went to one of their daylong seminars at a hotel in Berkeley just to give them a fair chance. Guess what the presentation was? Some plastic surgeon who gave a thinly-veiled infomercial for getting your boobs done. That lack of professionalism, coupled with the coldness and heartlessness they showed to a friend of mine, was enough to convince me that this was not a group I would want to give any time/money/loyalty to. I didn't, and I have been just fine.
It'll be a cold day in July when that happens.
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Groan. MT'ing has become such a cold racket. nm
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On a bed of nails, honey... they don't care. Cold as ice! nm
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Just be sure to also get therapy for your cold and thoughtless nature. nm
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They will pry my expander out of my cold dead fingers.
And THEN they'll find out what Cranky REALLY means......
I wasn't being cold, simply matter-of-fact. sm
My own reproductive history isn't a factor in my opinion. In the list of medical procedures, some things are necessary for life, others are not, they are elective.
Medical insurance exists to protect you against catastrophic financial burden due to unforeseen medical expenses. IVF is personally chosen, it is 100% elective, and it is done only to satisfy a personal want.
The above post is the most inconsiderate, cold-hearted, not to mention ignorant piece of work I'
Do you even have a clue as to how much one cycle of IVF costs? Try 15K to 20K and it takes on average three cycles to achieve conception...if at all. How many people do you know wait until they have $20,000.00 saved before starting a family? Get real.
Not that it's any of your business, having a child was not a mental issue for me. I initially didn't feel that it would be necessary to share the details of what led up to our infertility because I didn't see the relevance. Infertility is what it is. However, if sharing the details will prevent you or anyone else from drawing conclusions and posting abrasive half-truths, then here goes:
My husband, against my wishes, had a vasectomy when our only daughter was 3. Coming from a big family, I always wanted at least two children. Long story short: We went to Texas for the first reversal and Arizona for the 2nd (5 years ago). We spent our entire savings, which was close to 20k and both surgeries failed. My daughter prayed for a baby brother or sister every night. I had this tremendous burden of guilt because our infertility was self-inflicted. I knew she would never be a big sister or even an aunt because of our selfishness.
Infertility in and of itself is traumatic enough, but when it's self-inflicted, the guilt can be overwhelming. At least it was for me.
There, now you have the facts. However, if you find it more entertaining to post over-the-top fabrications about my complete lack of control and severe mental issues, as you called it, knock yourself out.
I have been pretty honest about my personal life and would appreciate it if you could just answer 2 simple questions.
(1) Dou have any children?
(2) In your opinion, do you feel that insurance companies should cover the cost of elective abortions?
You can just answer yes or no. I'm not posting anymore on this thread so you won't get any arguments from me.
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