You'd make more of a point about offshoring sm
Posted By: nm on 2006-01-19
In Reply to: MODERATOR HELP PLEASE - mtlooking
if you asked the company representative. Besides, it will save you time. If you feel you don't trust this company now (you mentioned that below), maybe you should keep on looking. Good luck to you!
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Another offshoring point to think about
Another thing I have noticed is that the good dictators/dictations eventually disappear from my queue, which is shared with Indian workers. So, it seems that I have helped to train the system for the VR, and then those dictations are taken away from me. So, another aspect of offshoring is that the BAD dictators are saved for those of us in the good ole USA. Yippee!! Right.
What do we call work that goes to India, gets picked over, and then the worst comes back to us? Inshoring? Turn-around shoring? It isn't exactly offshoring.
The point I was trying to make was...
that it is very unprofessional for a recruiter to email me and schedule an interview and then not call. This person acknowledged my resume and test, said they were very interested in discussing a position with me and then failed to follow through. That makes the company look very bad. I realize there are recruiters who are great at what they do. I have dealt with other companies and their recruiters have always been very prompt and efficient. I have never been turned down after testing with any company and I am not inexperienced. I am not complaining because I did not get a response from a company after apply for a position, I am complaining about the recruiter not following through with his/her scheduled interview. I already have a job, was just applying for this on the side. I have other things to do with my time than just sit around and wait for the phone to ring.
To make my point-SM
To make my point please see the message decent pay at the time of this board...the poster doesn't want much, but everything I said in my earlier post...now tell me I'm wrong. I will say it again, this job is 24/7, 365...so she thinks she is going to go to a new place, and start from day one working days, no weekends, and have no ESLs plus make great money...these are things you work TOWARD when you have been some place for awhile, not what you get when you are just starting some place. Does she expect the people who have been there awhile to work nights, weekends and do all the ESLs? The poster and others like her are part of the reason the work is going overseas...no one here wants to make any sacrifices.
maybe if you are trying to make a point
about skills you should have proofread this post because I am so not impressed with your grammar. In 10 lines I can count 5 errors. If Transcend is be good or be gone, you might start worrying now.
You make a good point..
You know what, you're right. An experienced GOOD MT will hit the ground running and not need their hand held. I'm sure an experienced, good MT is worth their weight in gold and SHOULD be paid more. There should be a way to do that, and if all those companies out there that are crying because they can't get experienced MTs would compensate in a way that is perceived as more fair, people would be beating a path to their door. The only thing that bothers me is the assumption that all MTs with many years experience are good at what they do. I've seen with my own eyes that this is not the case. Some of them don't seem to even know proper English usage. Why should that person be paid more just because they've put in X number of years? I guess it just reminds me too much of the labor union seniority systems that protect and reward the mediocre. I didn't mean to offend anyone with my post above; just wanted to give another perspective. If I were sitting where you are, I'd probably feel the same way. The MT profession has been eroding for years, and it's got to be tough on those who were part of the good old days of being an MT when they felt reasonably rewarded for their expertise.
You make a ver good Point.
The stuff that I have read was from 2 years ago, alot can happen in two years time. Every company has something wrong with it in someone's opinion. I just saw a lot of bad remakrs about it. Maybe it will be more of a positive experience for me.
At this point....I make top dollar at MQ sm
I am part-time and have been working for MQ over 16 years. The day they tell me I have to do ASR, I will quit, but until then I am satisfied with what I make per hour. Look around...there are layoffs everywhere and I am grateful for my job with MQ for now.
I'll try to make this point again...
wake up. MTs are not the first Americans to lose their jobs overseas. Look at your clothing labels, look at our TVs and other entertainment items, look at your children's toys. WHERE were they made. If you want AMERICAN JOBS FOR AMERCAN WORKERS, put your money where your mouth is and BUY AMERICAN. Consider all the toy recalls and the pet food poisoning epidemic from CHINA...How many American workers were displaced when these commodities started coming from overseas. If it's the cheapest brand on the market, it's probably from overseas. Bite the bullet and buy ONLY AMERICAN PRODUCTS TO PROTECT ALL AMERCIAN WORKERS, not just yourselves.
You make a good point
You were able to get some recogniton because the doctor knew who YOU were and the quality that you put out. That doesn't exist much anymore. I think THE major factor contributing to the decline of the MT profession is depersonalization. As employees of MTSOs, we are no longer individuals, but part of a big MT machine that cranks out dictation. The true consumer of the MT product, the doctor, has no contact whatsoever with the person who transcribes the report. That means that there is no recognition for the excellent MT; they are mixed in with all the substandard MTs and the doctor never knows who is typing the report. He gets back good, he gets back bad, and everything in between. Basically, the only reward we get these days is our own pride in doing a good job. Unfortunately, that doesn't pay the bills.
You make a good point -
I think you're spot on ~ each of us has different needs and different capabilities. Some companies get bashed just because they weren't a perfect fit for someone and some companies are really are validly not so good to work for.
I've been with SoftScript for nearly 7 months and I have nothing bad to say. I had about 12 years experience and a few years away - things in this business changed drastically during that time. Softscript gave me a really fair go. I worked for Medquist before for many years and did a short period of time with Spheris, but went back to Australia. I was doing VRE with them ~ that was weird, but not their fault.
Some people can't be satisfied with anything ~ I'm happy knowing I have a job and the people are really nice.
Just my dollar's worth (2 cents doesn't go anywhere anymore)
You make my point. Find what works for you. You
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Doesn't seem a valid point to me. Most people can make 250 lph sm
so why not do it making 8-9 cpl (or more) and make $24-27 per hour? I don't think $15/hour is much nowadays, but that is just my opinion. I made that 10 years ago in an office setting -- hate to think of going backwards, although I do reailze that is the trend in transcription nowadays, sad to say.
I just hope he/she (and everyone) finds something that pays more than that, especially for IC work. 
You make us laff here, girl! Love your point of view! :) nm
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Excellent point, and point in case
look at the charlatan christian in the
Whitehouse who uses religion to push his agenda...
Christian IS as Christian DOES...
I understand your point, my point is why can't MTs and QA work together..
being QA doesn't mean you are above everyone else, you are just an extra set of ears...and why do so many MTs take offense to QA??? That is my point...you made have had bad experiences in the past with QA but not all QA are bad...
Actually, I can see your point AND the opposing point
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I doubt you will make enough money in 5 hours a week to make
nm
I make 4 cents a line, work part and make
over $500 a week on part.
Great post! I make 0.085 at Keystrokes and make more than at any sm
other company in the last 5 years. Why? Because there is always work for me. I love starting work each day, knowing that the company I work for appreciates me and has plenty of work. Transtech and Keystrokes sound very similar; those of us that work for either can count our blessings that we are not part of the cesspool or huge corporate mess that makes up the biggest few companies. We do not have to worry about our jobs getting sent overseas and we see a future in this business!!!
No offshoring either. nm
Offshoring
Could someone define offshore "big time." When I worked for them I was told they have a company in the Philippines that they send work to, strictly some low priority government disability stuff. Their platform is great and the people I worked with were also wonderful to work for. I left for a personal reason but would not hesistate to recommend them, IF you can get a comparable line rate to make up for the spaces. Again the platform is very productive and they do pay for headers so that helps.
OSI offshoring - sm
Ask the recruiter when you speak to her. I know the offshore, I was working there when the news broke, and they are still doing it. Go ahead...ask. This is not sourgrapes, but fact.
Offshoring
Nah their govt would never bite the hand that feeds them. They would beat it out of their own citizens instead. That is the great thing about America, at least it is somewhat fair? We like to think it is the same in other countries but if it were they wouldn't be working for us in the first place. The only ones that can put a stop to this is us. You have to VOTE! Not for President but for all the little guys that have the power to keep the big P from allowing things we hate. Okay enough from me I have to go and type while I still have a job.
Offshoring
They own OSi and denied offshoring to India until they were caught several times. They are now banned from advertising on MTStars. They are promoting at OSI and focusing their attention on their new company in Tampa. Very low key. Be very careful about any comments here or the posts will be removed.
offshoring
Really, people, it is the folks in our country, you know, the good ol' U.S.A. who are selling us short, so don't get angry at India for taking jobs. Well, that would be a way of airing your prejudices. That's weak. 
Truly sorry about your loss, MTLittle.
offshoring
Sorry, Little MT.
Might as well get used to offshoring. It's everywhere,
and Spheris didn't help by proudly announcing their new offices in India and give carte blanche to the rest of the online companies to follow suit.
It's here, and probably to stay. Our largest nationals do it, our medium size nationals are doing it, and our smaller privates are doing it. No getting around it.
If you swear you will never work for an offshoring company, you will probably have to eat your words one day. That or go hungry until you can re-educate yourself and find a new career.
I would venture to guess that there are many MTs here working for offshoring companies who know it and won't admit it. There are many more who work for offshoring companies and probably don't know it.
Bottom line, you are going to have a mighty long list, and it will grow daily. Good luck.
Offshoring
I own aing serious. MTSO and we do not offshore. We have been against it for sometime. However, we are having trouble getting a reliable workforce. Seems every Transcriptionist has 3 PT jobs. We pay between 7.5 and 9.5 cpl and have tons of work. I for the first time talked to my partner about offshoring. We may hold out as long as possible.
Offshoring
In some cases, though, offshoring has indeed been the downfall of manual transcription. I work in a very large medical center, and the offshoring with direct link to EMR has eliminated all in-house transcription. It's a combination of technology and economics that is making manual MT obsolete.
Yes, she has the right and they are offshoring now (sm)
Everything the above poster said was true. I'm not there anymore either.
Is OSI still offshoring?
TIA
I do not know about offshoring
but they do outsource. I worked for a company and did their (OSi's) work; I guess it was overflow.
Don't you mean offshoring?
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Yes-- Offshoring
Sorry about that, I knew what I meant! Anyway, would appreciate if anyone can pass along just how to know if a company you are looking into sends some of their work out of the US. Thanks again.
offshoring is doing it
There are so many companies offshoring and hospitals offshoring that be LUCKY that you get 8 cpl. Most companies cant pay that!!!!
Are they still offshoring? nm
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offshoring
They are NOT better, but one thing I don't think anyone realizes is that with electronic signature, the docs don't read a lot of their charts anymore - they have no clue what half of their charts look like, only the really anal (and I mean that in the best of ways) know the mistakes that are being made. I just QAd one that said the patient was running a bicycle for exercise; also another with a 0.3 x 0.5 tumor, and the MT put 3 x 5 tumor. Not a HUGE error the first time around, but the second one puts the patient's life at risk. A NOTE TO ANY PHYSICIAN: READ YOUR CHARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Offshoring
I refuse to renew my membership in AAMT or to give even one penny to this organization. Think about it, people. They have supported offshoring. Do they care about us?
Offshoring
I believe everyone has the right to work, and the new outsourcing trend is inevitable for all jobs that can be outsourced. But, I think it should be done fairly for everyone and the job market should be competitive for everyone doing the work no matter what country they are from. The pay should be the same for everyone who is hired at whatever level they are hired at. If the pay were the same, we wouldn't see so much of it leaving this country. GREED IS THE REAL FACTOR HERE FOLKS. They can live a lot cheaper on 2 cents a line, and we would starve to death. I met an Indian MT one time, and she said they were paid 2 cents per line and had to type 2000 lines a day.. Now what is that about.
offshoring
That's right. Just move on over and let others take over. It is the American way.
Offshoring
Actually, we can complain all day but it won't stop. Unfortunately, with the AAMT becoming cheerleaders for offshoring it is only going to get worse. They need to be shut down completely as they are useless If they really wanted to do their job, they should stand behind American MTs 100%.
Oh well, just my 1/2 a cent worth.
Offshoring
I don't care what Medware tells you about competing in the marketplace or that offshoring is here to stay in the competitive market, the bottom line is that eventually you will pay for it. You may not be paying for it now, but eventually you will.
The goal of Medware and any other company that offshores is to make more money. Right now they are losing money by having the offshores type the report, offshores then edit the report, then it is sent to America where the reviewers review it for errors. And trust me, there are a lot of errors!!! Some companies pay reviewers 0.03 cents a line for reviewing and cleaning up the errors, others will pay a wage that is less than what QuickTrip is paying. And if you don't know what QuickTrip is, it is a gas station/convenient store. If the reviewer has a blank or problem, then the report is sent on to their supervisor. That is way too many hands on a single chart. The goal is to have the report typed by offshores and then reviewed by offshores and never have an American touch the chart at all. And when that happens, our job market is seriously reduced. Instead of each company employing 20-30 reviewers, they will only employ 1 or 2 who will only listen to offshore editor's blanks.
You may feel that you are safe in VR at Medware. But did you know that all the doctors who are not trained for VR have their reports transcribed by offshores? Did you know, well, you should if you read the memo that the offshores are currently being trained to produce a quality document which will not require further editing in America. Once they are trained who is to say they will be working on YOUR voice recognition work?
You would do well to look over to Heartland. They decided to only use offshore MTs to work for them. They fired over 150 MTs. What makes you think Medware won't do the same one day?
NO offshoring
True and all the owner has done unfortunately is lied and made the company and MTs look bad -- hopefully her other business will fail as well
And no offshoring either
I forgot to mention that. All the government contracts I have been looking at say no offshoring. That is something new from when I looked at government contracts previously.
OFFSHORING
Ask SPi--they're doing exactly the same thing. They're losing accounts and employees by droves.
Offshoring
Knowing which transcription services do not offshore would be greatly appreciated! They are the only ones I will work for, and I am sure most MTs feel the same. Please raise your hand, and let us know who you are.
No, no offshoring. (sm)
Sorry, but don't know about connections. I have high speed.
Offshoring, huh?
Good to know - I had heard pretty good reports about this company - giving them the benefit of the doubt, I can certainly understand platform trouble - but off-shoring is a big TURN-OFF to me.
No more offshoring????
Keep off-shoring broke!
My best suggestion for stopping this off-shoring is for MTs to unite somehow and realize that electronic medical records are here! They will not go away - this will force the major transcription companies to off-shore big time because there will be of a lack of third shift necessary to cover shorter TAT - everyone gets upset about the offshoring but little is being done about it. With shorter turnaround times and instant gratification desired by the docs the responsibility falls back on the MT to make that happen not the company. They type while we are sleeping, taking our weekends off, or refusing to do ESL...lets not worry about the migrant workers how about saving our own butts? If we can meet the turnaround and still provide the quality we would have a leg to stand on to impose sanctions on companies that send this out of the US kinda like fines imposed on those that hire migrant workers - but we surely could not go to congress and say, well I dont work the weekends or nights.
About offshoring...
There was a big stink years ago when foreign car makers brought factories to the USA. These autoworkers are still working and in the USA and they are foreign owned. If the jobs stay here I really can't get too upset about who owns it.
Sony owns a movie studio and they make TV programs too. I am not sure I could tell what shows not to watch. They are produced in the USA, do well and American companies advertise with those programs...oh so what? JOBS ARE HERE.
With MT, I am not that concerned about outsourcing taking my job away. I WILL NOT edit Indian work, I WILL NOT work for a company that outsources to India or anywhere else. That, perhaps, has taken work away from me, but given that I work full time, I can pay all my bills and some and my job is here (and to stay) it isn't something I sit and worry about.
I'll have to rag on MTs for minute. I have, in fact, edited American MTs and I have tell you, many of them I have seen are worthless. They don't show up and when the do I wonder why they bothered. I don't know that I'd call them MTs, they are typists after a fashion. Ever try to staff an MT company? You try to find qualified MT who also show up when they are supposed to and do the lines they are supposed to do! Every last recruiter I know or have spoken to will tell you that staffing a new account will drive you over the edge. They tell me that most MTs appear to have lied on their resumes, as evidenced by their lack of knowledge, speed and accuracy once they start the job. Many of them put everything they want to do in life ahead of their job and show up late, leave early and do almost nothing while they are working. On top of that, they don't do a good job when they show up, then they will gripe about line rate and want more money, an easier account, or to be allowed to cherrypick in some way. One recruiter told me that if she needs 30 MTs she will try to hire 50 to 60 of them because she knows she'll get about 15 who will stick for any period of time and who can do an adequate job.
If you want to stop outsourcing of MTs, then hone your skills. Talk to others about how they have their Expanders fixed up. Brush up on your terminology. Seek to expand your knowledge by offering to learn new things. Quit whining about line rates. They go up, they go down and you might as well get used to it. Work to be accurate. Work at being faster. SHOW UP and on time. Be worth it, and be worth it at a company who refuses to outsource to India.
offshoring
Excellent!
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