Yes, it counts spaces. It does not count headers/footers. sm
Posted By: ES Specialist on 2008-04-23
In Reply to: E-Script - recycled
Chartscript counts the demographics i.e. headers/footers. That may be where your difference is. ES used to count them, but no more. It is about 15% less lines now that they do not count them.
Spaces are counted.
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From my experience, it is all in how the company sets it up to count i.e. footers, headers, spaces
etc.. I work on another platform but I noticed the same thing when I worked for a company and it would me 12 hours to get 1000 lines, and at the time, I had nothing to compare it to. Then, I thought..this is just wrong. Working 12 hours to make $80 is ridiculous so I quite. I went to work for another company...same platform... and routinely do 1500 to 2000 lines a day and I can tell the difference. You know when you do a whole page report and all you end up with is at the max 40 lines.. something is wrong. I'd say keep the best paying and dump the rest. They are obviously shorting you somewhere.
All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
Ctrl+I counts headers and footers, but we don't get paid for that sm
and we don't type it in, in any case. The headers and footers usually have text that is a lighter color and these are embedded headers and footers. We get paid for the regular color text. You aren't being cheated in the least. Consider, I worked for a company where they charged the MT a 65 character line for every report, although the headers and footers compromised a whopping 30 to 40 characters. On a short report, you paid the company for the privilege of transcribing it!! Embedded headers are not things we transcribe, but ARE paid for what we DO type.
This 1.236 accounts for the headers and footers, on ICD1. Different accounts have different headers or lack thereof and so it varies.
What companies pay for spaces, headers and footers?
I've been an acute care Transcriptionist for 27 years now, pushing age 50, and
"burned out" I suppose. Anyway, looking to maybe do some easy multispecialty clinic work or pediatric clinic with little or no ESL, making at least 9 cpl with benefits, with 12-24 hour frame to finish a predetermined amount of lines.
Are there any jobs out there that would offer me this? 
Probably not getting paid for headers, footers, or spaces. Do you get
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Person below posted that she gets spaces and headers/footers.
NM
Does Diskriter pay for headers and footers, as well as spaces and returns? OR - sm
do they pay for just spaces and returns??
Thanks
I don't think headers or footers count (you don't have to type them)
nm
You cant go by that alone- some dont count headers and footers, etc.
You cant always go by Word count alone.
Not a discrepancy, just a lag time - they don't count headers or footers.
nm
Hired by Cymed and told they did not pay for spaces, but paid for headers and footers. Just did a
check on the line count, and not only do they not pay for headers and footers, they also pay for 2 lines less than I typed.
If you're with someone that doesn't count the demographic info or headers or footers, line cou
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Headers and footers
Have you spoken with your manager about this? Are you not getting the demographic info from the hospital?
YES they pay headers and footers nm
nm
Headers and Footers
This really hits my hot button and I think a lot of companies have found this as a big time way to rip off the MTs. I wonder how many are charging the client for this data which most times does not load in and even if it does you are still verifing that it is correct, doing carbon copies, etc. All clerical functions the MT is not being paid for. I just left a company to go to a company where we get headers, but no spaces. Even with no spaces, my production in 4 weeks is up almost 50% so I have no doubt it makes a significant difference. To actually get back to your question, the 30% would depend on the size of the document. It should not be a % but a flat line rate, such as 8 lines per document or whatever. 30% of a 3 100 line document would be 30 lines and no way would that be fair for headers/footers.
Headers and Footers
I nearly had a panic attack when my paycheck had $450.00 deducted from it. They kind of mentioned it in passing when I was hired there was a small deduction for information we did not type that went into the header and footer, but had no idea it would be 30% off my total line count.
Not about headers/footers
This goes above and beyond the headers/footer. Needless to say, they are safe with having to pay out a bonus. Not very many good standing employees are left from what I understand. Interesting, you sound exactly like a manager employed by them.
24% OFF FOR HEADERS/FOOTERS
167.28/683 X 100 = 24%
683 - my count (Tools/Word count/Lines)
admin.ichart count: 515.72
-167.28 difference
do they pay for headers and footers for ER?
Headers/footers
They don't pay for them but you don't have to type them. Line counting appears to be what you would expect and I think is accurate.
No headers/footers
Since you don't actually type the header/footer, makes sense you don't get paid for them. If you have to look up an ID or something it really only takes a few seconds, so that's not a problem. I've been with them over a year. My production went up. It was a good move for me. They are very honest with their MTs and will address any concerns you may have. Of note, QA and Tech support are really good. Pay is on time, every time. Good incentives.
Headers/Footers
I agree with you about the headers and footers. Did a recent count and found it to be about 13%. That is excessively high when losing time looking up demos because they are too lazy to input the info. This header/foot thing has gotten worse. I believe I had previously figured 11%. It is morally wrong to take out a percentage. A true character count would count the whole amount and take out for whatever is pre-printed on the page. This is especially horrible when doing 30, 40 or 50 small jobs, don't you think?
Headers and footers
None anymore probably, but that's not the point. When you work for companies that count lines at the remote IC site, go ahead and subtract those lines from your total at Control I. Does 13% difference seem fair to you? Don't you think a fairer thing would be an actual count of characters subtracted?
If they don't pay for headers/footers, it's
easy enough to highlight & delete the block before running the count... It's not rocket science.
they said they pay headers and footers at Transcend??
You better double check that.
headers and footers are paid too. nm
nm
Do you really get paid for headers and footers with
About how many headers and footers are per report?
Should you get paid for headers and footers.
I was called in to test for a company who do not pay for headers or foots and starting pay is 7 cpl. They do not pay for bolding, underlining, nothing. Is this still a good deal? Should I waste my time testing?
thanks.
headers footers lines
There are many different platforms that cheat you out of lines. If you saw what actually printed at the facility you would see a completely different page. The headers and footers you don't see on your page, magically appear - the lines that were single space are now double space and formatted I am sure to give the company the most $$$$. WHere in the world do you work at 10 cpl? Thats really good!
Most companies don't pay headers & footers
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Well what companies do pay for headers & footers?
Keystrokes headers and footers
Does Keystrokes pay for headers and footers?
Not all CyMed accounts pay for headers and footers.
The account I'm on does not and also you get paid 2.3 lines less than the report line count.
Could that have been a result of not paying for demos, headers, footers? NM
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I'll take a guess and say TransTech as they tell you up front you don't get headers/footers an
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So you don't get paid for headers/footers... just a straight 65 character line
How about spaces?
If you don't get paid for H/F, are you given a higher line rate?
If you have horrible platform, do not get paid for headers, footers, template data, etc.,
even though it might take 3 or 4 minutes or longer to edit that stuff, you are going to take a big pay cut. This program was designed by idiots.
If you read in their FAQ section, fixed headers and footers are NOT counted as well as bolding, un-
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Go to their website. They don't pay for headers, footers, special chars. and they're Indian
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They most certainly do pay for spaces and headers.
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Do you think all the headers and footers aren't getting counted? Lots of places aren't giving
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i agree, go, go, go (with or without spaces, headers, etc)
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TransHealth pays for spaces & headers on a 65 character line. sm
I recommend them highly. Stable company, good platform, great benefits. I'm happy there.
Of course they pay for spaces and I believe the line counts to be appropriate sm
I said appropriate without making a statement about accuracy. My body knows when I have made my 1100 minimum. I can do that in about half to two-thirds of a shift. I can tell when I am at my usual 1600 to 1700 lines for a day too.
I'll agree...base rate is not stellar, but then again I never make that...I make more. I am routinely on the third line rate incentive tier, which puts me up above the last line rate I was paid. There is a QA bonus and I have gotten that which is per line bonus back to line one. It is easy for high-caliber MTs to make very good money.
With the better insurance rates they have come up with, all those bonuses and the wonderful people...well I have found my heaven on earth.
Difference in line counts with/without spaces
I'm looking at swtiching companies but I'm tryint to figure out approximately what the pay would be like. If I take the new job I would start at $ 0.005 less than what I currentently am paid but I would be paid for spaces and the job I curerntly have does not pay for spaces. Any imput is appreciated.
Thanks
Prior post said it's so-so to use, but only counts the black chars., no spaces. nm
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If Ichart deducts 8% from ExText line counts, you are actually not getting paid for spaces
It is the equivalent of a 70.2 character line with spaces, 65 characters without spaces.
Several out there don't count spaces now.
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They do NOT count spaces?
If they do not count spaces, then I'd find a way to disable my space bar. If I don't get paid for it, they ain't getting it!!!
They do count spaces but...
Many accounts line counts come through Ichart. I believe they weight characters to be less than a full character, or in other accounts they just take a flat percentage right off the top for headers and footers, which turns out to be many more lines than the headers/footers are worth.
I've worked on many accounts at OSi and they have never matched the word count (characters extended divided by 65) in Word. It is always, always less. On my particularly account, it is consistently between 9-10% less than the count in Word.
So why do I stay? I'm not sure. Is it better anywhere else? I'm also not sure.
Which companies do not count spaces?
I am wondering which ones are doing this that you know of. Thanks.
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