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Voice will reduce transcription and increase editing

Posted By: diddles on 2005-12-26
In Reply to: Speech recognition and the future regarding MT work. Does anyone besides myself have the feeling - Sharon

along with lowering pay across the board.  There is a company I left after a short period of time who bought into Dragon's sales pitch.  It was a medical management company who thought they could make a quick buck moving into MT.  They bought the sales pitch without understanding the whole picture.


They hire at $8 an hour, have great benefits and expect you to kill yourself for that $8 an hour.  IF you edit more than 16,000 lines a day for each pay period (2 weeks), then you pay bumps up to $10/hr.  But if the average for any pay period is less than 16,000 lines per day, you get stuck with your $8 and are told if you don't like it leave.  Well, I did.  The day after I left they announced they were sending the editing to India.  Ain't that a kicker?  Their reason?  To get the MTs in India to train Dragon so the American MTs can make their 16,000 lpd goals and have happier employees


Things that make you go hummm.


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Editing voice recognition

From my own experience, you can make more typing.  The pay for editing is usually pretty low, by the line, and because the recognition is so bad, you might as well type the reports. The companies that market SR basically tell their prospective clients what they want to hear, e.g. that their SR can understand bad dictators and ESLs, that their SR isn't thrown off by background noise and that the doctors can dictate from anywhere (like their car in heavey traffic), and the SR will understand them.  I myself use SR to transcribe due to bad hands and wrists and I know what it can and cannot do.  I spent a lot of time training mine so I get around 98% accuracy.  Very few doctors will put in that kind of time.  The worst SR program that I have edited is Dictaphone and it is just terrible.  E-Scription is better and more user friendly.  Medquist's program isn't bad either, but it still boils down to how good the dictator is and if he/she is willing to change his/her dictation habits and where they dictate from, and most importantly, use a headset when they dictate.  Once a mumbler always a mumbler and if they are used to dictating their reports right after they see a patient, in the hall with phones ringing, nurses talking, etc., it is a lost cause as far as SR is concerned.  You might want to search the archives for messages from other people who have tried editing SR.  Good luck.


4 cents for editing voice rec (nm)
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the pay for voice recognition/editing is better at MQ than Transcend
Transcend only pays 60% of line rate, at least MQ is 80%.

Is that true?
What is everyone making doing voice recognition editing?
Can anyone tell me what you are making monthly doing voice recognition editing?  I am doing it now and I am not sure if I am making enough money or not.  Thanks
In a voice editing position, they are terrible.
Theya re just training the engine for the account i was on and it was horrendous. No way in hades to make a line count because of formatting issues.
Does anyone know anything about radiology voice recognition editing with Superior Global? sm
I cannot find anything about them.  How do they pay?  Do they have enough work?  How are they to work for?  Any info at all would be appreciated.  TIA.
Transtech does have voice recognition. Horrible platform for editing.
Dictaphone Exspeech is the very worst VR platform I have ever worked on.  Yes, the MT line rate is much reduced for it, too.
Voice transcription - sm

Thinking about testing for them.  I checked the archives and can't find anything.  This is all voice recognition work. I worked on editing voices files for the previous company I worked for.  I like doing this work, but didn't like the fact that it was less money.  I'm thinking I may be able to produce more to make up for the decrease in line rate.  Any thoughts on this company?


 


 


FYI: Voice Transcription

I keep seeing people post about this horrific company and I thought I would share my experience with them:


1.  I still haven't received payment for work that I completed in November!! The owner (initials J.L.) keeps giving me different excuses of why she hasn't paid me. The one check I did receive from them was a month late.


2.  After one of my many emails about the money owed to me and how much exactly is past due, she sent me an email saying the amount wasn't right and that we had agreed on a lower rate for one of the clients!! Absolutely NOT true!! So, after I completed this work, she apparently decided that I would be paid 0.045 and not the 0.06/line as promised (VR editing acct.).


3.  I actually ended up quitting because J.L. went off on a rant saying that I had made an unacceptable mistake in one of the reports. Later, after I proved that I was right, she apologized and said that she had a temper because of a three day migraine.


Now, I only worked for this company for two months (thank goodness it wasn't longer). If you're okay with being treated like this and not getting paid for work that you complete and her changing your rate, then go for it, but I would highly advise against it!! For those of you below that stated you had not been contacted after testing, just thank your lucky stars that you aren't working for her and hopefully you'll take my advice and never work for her.


The name is Voice Transcription out of Washington.
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They use them to reduce the cause....
You got called personally by the CEO? Hmm..... I thought you kids at Transcend were not supposed to contribute to boards like this? I guess maybe some can and some can't?
This isn't an attack and any 1 company - it is just an effort to keep the work here where we our economy stinks and the unemployment is rising ---- give us our jobs back. I know you are on the other side of the fence on this issue and on the company's side and get the personal calls and all, but think about the families out there in trouble now because of all the outsourcing - what do you say to them?

Sometimes, a little bitching as you call it is necessary to change things that have went wrong, right guys?!

Grr... a call from the CEO....!!
Rates for transcription and editing.

Speech recognition.  Here are some rates.  This is not a guarantee, just what I know first-hand, and what I've been told from others as well.  It's just an average.


Cents per Line.


Sten-Tel - transcribe - 7.5, edit - 3


MDI - transcribe 8-8.5, edit 4-4.5


QT Medical - transcribe 8, edit 4


Focus - transcribe 7.5, edit 3


Editing versus transcription
I do VRE and I love it. I have done it for a couple of different companies, and how much you make will all depend on the work and how much patient info you have to enter. I think 3.75cpl is pretty low though.
Looking for a co. that does not use VR/editing, rather straight transcription

Is there is such a company?  Must pay on time.  Don't need insurance.


Would consider clinic work after 15 years of acute care experience.


Don't like my pay cut in half -- cannot make up for $$$$.   DQS was the only VR platform that was good to me $$$  wise.


The statistics are that only 7% of transcription is SR editing. Think about all the sm
individual doctor offices, small hospitals and clinics. I even was told that it is too expensive for large hospitals because they need a license for each doctor and they have to train it. When you have a teaching hospital, it can mean 4000 licenses. Not worth the cost.

It's not as prevalant as it seems to be. It is just talked about often now.


They use them to reduce the cost of
transcription, not just third shift work, and not just when they need help. We can have no work and you can be sure they are still sending the easy jobs to the low life trash from India just so they can make more money for the big wigs at the company. Face it, Transcend does not care a hoot about you. They can mouth the words we care, but it is just like any other politician. You are a fool if you fall for the lies.
Is that 1600 lines a day in editing or transcription?
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I should also mention that I do straight transcription, not editing.
I have never run out of work.
No experience because I couldnt even take the transcription tests. The voice files would not play.
How about you? I was bummed. I was really interested in the job but I tried everything to get the voice files to play but they wouldnt. Oh well, I guess if it were meant to be, then I would have been able to take the test.
Yes, not being paid for spaces would reduce your pay A LOT!
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Transcend pays more. There is editing and straight transcription. Let's just say..they pay more
than 9 cpl, double of what people will be making at RC Transcription.
$0.05 per line for editing, 0.065 for transcription IS 3rd world wages.

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holidays do tend to reduce work loads.
When the account i was given had shortage of work, i asked for and received another account. I almost never have a shortage of work now.
A pay increase.
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Ins. Increase
OK, you can panic or you can check into other things. Go ahead and call other companies and see what their insurance is costing the employee and the benefits it offers. This is going on in ALL insurance companies. Everyone and I do mean everyone I have talked to in the past 2 days about this has told me theirs has gone up, too. One of my friends who works for a very well known company pays over $108.00 a pay period for single coverage and basically the same benefits as my Aetna plan with TransTech. This is not some remote thing. Even my husband's insurance went up for all the plan options. He is now going to be paying $8.17 more a pay period than I am with Transtech for single employee only coverage. The cost of health care and medications are astronomical and they are having to pass this on down to the consumer. It's nothing new. It is time to wake up though. Inflation is not getting any better, only worse by the day. As for me, I will gladly work 45 more minutes a day to pay for the increase in my plan with TransTech. I would like to suggest a company though for those of you who have children and want a good insurance policy for them. My husband is ordered to provide health insurance for his daughter from his previous marriage and we took out a terrific policy on her with Midwestern Life of Tennessee. For a PPO plan that pays just like a group plan with your employer we pay $98.00 a month. This is for an 18-year-old female. Might be worth checking into. They will also take it directly from your checking account every month. They pay their claims well and on time and we've NEVER had a problem with them. Good luck to you all.
They would have to increase it by about 30% , that is
if they want to keep the MTs and want the MTs to type those spaces... LOL
RE: VR..anybody been able to make an increase in pay doing ME?
I more than doubled my production editing voice recognition drafts, and I am completely happy with the pay I receive for my efforts.
VR..anybody been able to make an increase in pay doing ME?
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Webmedx MTs, 30% increase with ASR?
I keep hearing this is the productivity percentage an MT will see with ASR at Webmedx. What has your experience been?

Please share:

How long you've worked at Webmedx

How long you've been on ASR at Webmedx

If and how your production has changed (numbers/percentages if you have them)

I'd like to know how much of this promise of increased earnings is truth.

Thank you.
I think you might be wrong about a 30% increase sm
maybe a 30% decrease for ASR reports is correct. I don't know for sure though.
I got a significant increase when I

went to this company.  Pay is based on experience, like anywhere else.  You get adjustments based on quality score.  I got a raise the first quarter.  Regarding the negative comments about demographics, they were time consuming to me at first but CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE to eliminate a lot of the data entry on the unpaid screen.  I don't spend any more time on demogs now than I did at any other company. 


LPH and increase speed

As I mentioned before, I am struggling with speed.


I am curious what most people start out typing (LPH) and how quickly you increased to your max (many mentioned they are 200-300+) lph.  Anyone who will share on this?


I appreciate it!


That's a shame about the increase
excited to be getting to work for that company.  Keystrokes has a high plan too and are looking into it, but I've read that on here for over a year now.  I guess I have nothing nice to say, so I'd better be quiet.  Sometimes saying too many good things can jinx us!  
Try 9 for decrease and # for increase.
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Have you asked them about an increase for the
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Can anyone help me increase my lines?? sm
I've read how some of you produce 250-300 or more lines per hour without VR.  I'm wondering if you have the same docs every day who say the same things over and over so you use alot of normals and shortcuts. I mostly type for 1 hospital, not that difficult of an account, use many shortcuts but can't seem to produce more than 175 lines per hr. I've been doing this for quite some time and am getting discouraged at the end of my shift.  Any tricks of the trade would be very much appreciated.
Should I ask for an increase or just be glad I have a job? sm

I know with the economy the way it is, I should probably just keep quiet and be thankful I have an income.  I realize there are many here that are without jobs and my heart goes out to you.


I have 18+ years of experience working in this field.  Six months ago I was hired by a national to cover a cardiology clinic account at .08 cpl.  I'd say at least 70% to 75% of the dictators are either ESL or mumbling/speedy Americans on a good day.  Today I have 100% ESLs!.  There are probably only two or three decent dictators in the whole lot if you can find one in the queue.  Turnover on this particular account has been so bad that cherry picking is actually permitted!


I've already applied for a other accounts within the company (that were advertized on various job boards) and haven't had any luck yet.  I probably won't get the opportunity to move because they can't keep this account covered.


With that being said, would it be unreasonable to ask for an increase to at least .09 to stay on this account?  The only other way I have a chance of making any money is to type for 10 hours a day.


Sorry I couldn't give you the short version! TIA!


VR does not necessarily increase
your speed. If you are making lots of corrections, then you will actually lose ground.
Dang - that's just a bit more than increase in
See link below for online calculator that lets you see what $x in a certain year should be worth today. I plugged in $14 and 1999, and it shows it would be worth $17.79 today.

That means that your 10 years of loyalty, seniority, accumulated knowledge about your platform and client sites, etc. are worth 21 cents.

Here's the calculator:
http://www.aier.org/research/worksheets-and-tools/cost-of-living-calculator
20% increase in production - haha!
haven't they been repeating over and over to you that you WILL see a 20% increase in production RIGHT AWAY!! after you conquer DQS then they're going to throw ASR at you and swear up and down that you'll have a 25% in production and they're going to cut your baseline rate by 20% to become a Medical Editor -- doesn't that sound just peachy!! i recalculated my last check with my MT work and my ME work and it came out to be $50 less because of the 20% decrease on my baseline rate for the honor of doing ME work (i have until 10/1/05 before the cut takes place). Oh, but you have your choice of doing 100% MT work and keeping your baseline rate, but guess what you'll be getting the docs that the voice recognition system can't do, therefore, you will probably see a 25% decrease in production. Heck, now as it is, the VR program can't pick up the little words like an, and, in, etc right and it's even leaving out very, very clear words that a very, very clear dictator is saying, so you figure how you're going to have a 25% increase on production when you're pecking nonstop on the keyboard like when you first started typing on a manual typewriter?? Tell me again, how grateful we're supposed to be for working at MQ? And, yes, I know I can go to MTJobs.com and find another job, but you know what, there's principles and if we just walk away from how we're being treated we're just going to be treated like that at another MQ-like company. Something needs to be done so they know that we don't appreciate being treated like someone with a 5th grade education.
What is the line rate for IC's, does it ever increase? nm
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promised rate increase
I have to 100% agree with your statement as I personally experienced just what you stated.
I think OP meant an 30% increase in productivitySM

I don't think the original poster meant a 30% increase in pay, but a 30% increase in productivity! 


Has anyone seen a line increase in the last 2 days?

Interesting, working the same but lines have increased by about 200 per day.


I did ask that, it would increase accuracy, productivity, TAT....sm
She took me off one of the two clinics so now I only have about 35 docs and maybe 10 specialities, but I believe this is only temporary since I am having trouble familiarizing.  I just get the impression that I am not up to par where I should be and I'm surprised, as I'm a quick study.  And to pour salt in it, my two QA people on our Messenger List notated next to their names yesterday that they were typing ___ and listed my account name.  These ladies only type when backed up.  So I think I'm bogging them down:(   I feel so inadequate, and for less than 8 cpl.  Oy.
Do you love their insurance increase as was
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Fuzzy math. A 40% cut in pay is not offset by a 40% increase

in production.  


To break even in this picture, you would have to have a much greater increase in production. IF you currently do 2000 lines a day at 8 cpl, and your new "blended" rate pays 4.8 cpl, you would have to do 3,334 lines to break even, or at least a 67% increase in production.  Do you all really think you can do it? 


 


when minimum wage goes up do IC rates increase also?
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as others have said, increase dictation speed, let spellchecker do it's job
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I believe everyone starts off at 8 cpl and usually reviewed in 90 days for an increase.
There is also incentive pay if you go over 1200 lines a day or 6000 in a pay period I believe. That is about all I know.
No they don't. There is slight increase for evenings and nights;
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