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Thinking about IC status

Posted By: Curious on 2006-06-05
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I've been thinking about finding a company that offers IC status. My current situation is this  - I'm currently an employee for a service and have asked to be moved to a part time schedule soon as I'm expecting another baby and have realized there just aren't enough hours in the day to work full time and take care of my family (this will be my third child, fourth if you count hubby :-) ). So far my supervisor has barely acknowledged my request. I have also read here that people who once worked for my current company had asked for a schedule change and were refused. This is not an option for me, I need to go part time and I need flexibility in the schedule (something I know my current company does not offer).


A couple of years ago I interviewed with Oracle Transcription and the lady who talked to me seemed very nice. I was a little put off by the IC status (I don't need bennies - hubby's are fine) mostly because it's not familiar territory. The tax thing makes me a little nervous and I wouldn't know where to begin as far as transcription software. This company seemed to be very flexible in schedules. I also liked that this company was very anti sending work overseas. But, this was 2 years ago and I doubt that position would still be available.


So, how do you go about making an easy transition from employee status to IC status and which companies offer IC positions without treating you like an employee?


Thanks  




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I don’t want to hear about everyone else’s mistakes in a nasty e-mail where you threaten to dock everyone’s pay.  Address the issue with the individual.


 


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No new and creative ways to rip the MT off.  I don’t care about your VBCs.  I want to be paid for my time and typing – including templates and spaces.


 


A company which pays on time.


 


Low ESL, while I can do ESL it doesn’t mean I should have to do so continuously because everyone else has cherry-picked or they just can’t do it – they need the practice, I don’t.  While it’s true I can make money on ESLs because they tend to say the same thing over and over, when they don’t, they are a royal pain in the @ss.


 


Pay equal to my experience level.


 


State of the art equipment – No DOS!  No cumbersome software wasting MY time looking up patient demographics.


 


I think I might prefer ER or clinic, I can make more money with those than with op notes, even though they pay less per line.


 


A company that DOES send positive e-mails and keeps its MTs up-to-date with feedback from the accounts and abreast of latest terms.


 


 
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Thinking

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Since everyone is an employee, and US Labor laws should still apply, I wonder if any of the MTs who lost work on EditScript, who they won't move to Dictaphone, have bothered to file with unemployment for reduction of work.  I think the unemployment office calls this partial unemployment or something like that.


Anyone thinking of going to QA, this is for you SM

Just don't.  If you think you are bored out of your gourd, treated like a factory worker and unappreciated now while you're doing MT, becoming a QA person is worse.


The QA jobs are production-based in some form also, even the hourly jobs.  You are expected to do XX amount of jobs per hour or per day and be on the system at XX:XX and off at XX:XX.  Believe me.  You'll see the same people sending their work to you to fix or do EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.  It's really a thankless job and at least with MT, you are the master of your own ship, you are responsible for your own work, lines and jobs.  It's just something to think about.


I have also been thinking about them --

Do they hire only employees or are there IC/SE possibilities as well?


What platform do they use?  Did you get to set your own hours/days?


You said they started you at a decent line rate, was it more than 9 cpl and are you an employee or IC/SE?  I know that the line rate is affected by this.


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That's what I'm thinking.
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I think I can make it work if I stay but I don't know if I want to - employee status and all. I think I will probably send out some resumes and see what happens to help me make a better decision on whether or not it is worth staying.
I could and I would but thinking about sm
it, I don't know you and I better not right now. I will tell you they are in Atlanta GA
That is what I was thinking! sm
I'm glad I didn't type all 21 charts! Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me this. I'm getting very frazzled with the testing, resumes, emails, cover letters. I haven't really had any definite possibilities, either. This is so frustrating! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience.
That's what I was thinking...nm
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IC status

I am an IC with Medquist and my base requirement is 4000 lines per pay period (paid twice monthly).  This is also required to qualify for reimbursement of a second phone line.  An important thing to remember with MQ, however, they are very office-oriented, meaning that each office sets many of their own policies. 


IC status?
Didnt think MQ had IC status anymore.  I was one and was told about five years ago I had to switch to SE or employee that they no longer had IC status.
Looking For PT or IC PT status..sm

Been running out of work and looking for something to make up for the lost income.  Does anyone know which companies are hiring PT or PT/IC status?  Any info would be greatly appreciated. 


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I have heard that www.rapidtranscript.com is in need of people for the basic 4.
I'm an IC. I don't think they have emp status.
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IC status
Can anyone provide info on companies who do not require a schedule or line requirement?
Need to know your status - are you IC
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SE status is
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Are they IC status?
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non-IC status

Does anyone know of a company who is hiring PT status where you don't have to work as an IC? The taxes are just a pain to take care of and I would like to continue a PT job but just havent found a company offering anything but IC status.