They do count spaces but...
Posted By: Long time OSI on 2008-12-17
In Reply to: OSI line counting - mimi
Many accounts line counts come through Ichart. I believe they weight characters to be less than a full character, or in other accounts they just take a flat percentage right off the top for headers and footers, which turns out to be many more lines than the headers/footers are worth.
I've worked on many accounts at OSi and they have never matched the word count (characters extended divided by 65) in Word. It is always, always less. On my particularly account, it is consistently between 9-10% less than the count in Word.
So why do I stay? I'm not sure. Is it better anywhere else? I'm also not sure.
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All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
Several out there don't count spaces now.
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They do NOT count spaces?
If they do not count spaces, then I'd find a way to disable my space bar. If I don't get paid for it, they ain't getting it!!!
Which companies do not count spaces?
I am wondering which ones are doing this that you know of. Thanks.
Think about it if you couldn't count spaces.... a lot of companies.....
don't count spaces. Header information we don't transcribe anyway so why get paid for it.
Do they count spaces? If not then it would be a lot less. Find out what the variables are from your
Good Luck. Had the same problem with a job I had to leave. I got half the lines I used to. Now with another job same thing, just a little more than half of what I used to. Still looking for a company with the fair line count (65 with spaces, headers, footers, etc). Tired of looking but still trying. Good luck to you.
usually 55 does not count spaces and that's a lot of unpaid characters. NM
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Yes, it counts spaces. It does not count headers/footers. sm
Chartscript counts the demographics i.e. headers/footers. That may be where your difference is. ES used to count them, but no more. It is about 15% less lines now that they do not count them.
Spaces are counted.
they do not pay for spaces, line count not verified, check archives!! nm
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From my experience, it is all in how the company sets it up to count i.e. footers, headers, spaces
etc.. I work on another platform but I noticed the same thing when I worked for a company and it would me 12 hours to get 1000 lines, and at the time, I had nothing to compare it to. Then, I thought..this is just wrong. Working 12 hours to make $80 is ridiculous so I quite. I went to work for another company...same platform... and routinely do 1500 to 2000 lines a day and I can tell the difference. You know when you do a whole page report and all you end up with is at the max 40 lines.. something is wrong. I'd say keep the best paying and dump the rest. They are obviously shorting you somewhere.
Keystrokes accounts all count the expanders as characters printed with spaces, not the abbreviation.
I have checked it, but we use Shorthand. What are you using?
I think most places pay for spaces. I work for TransTech and they pay for both spaces
as well as punctuation. I would never work for an MTSO that doesn't.
65 with spaces versus 65 without spaces; how to calculate?
Can someone tell me if you are getting 9 cents per 65-character line with spaces how much you would need to be paid per line to make the same amount per line if you are offered a ''65-character line without spaces?'' Thank you very much
So, if not spaces paid, what cpl would be comparable to at least 9 cpl w/spaces, do you know??
Thanks.
In my Extext experience count was about 10% less than the Word count. nm
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It means to double check what THEY say your count it. Count
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Are you aware of how they count your time?.. or don't count it i should say
nm
54 without spaces = 65 with spaces if you do the math nm
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WMX - line count. Was working along and noted line count accumulation (sm)
signed off the report I was typing. Those lines didn't add immediately, but sometimes they do that. What concerns me is that when I signed that job off and the next one came up, not only were the other lines not added in but they were LESS than they were before I signed off previous job.
I thought I noticed this happening the other day, but figured I just wasn't paying attention. Today I definitely noticed it. For some reason it changed it's mind and took 8 lines off my line count. What the heck?
Am not really ecstatic with the way things are going anyway and then this confuses me.
Please, someone have a realistic explanation so I don't feel paranoid and cheated here.
Then company should set line count per day with incentives for above that. If get line count done
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$.08 w/spaces vs. $.09-.10 w/o spaces
Would you make about the same, i.e., $.08 with spaces versus $09-10 without spaces? Just wondering. Thanks.
They do not MTs for spaces. nm
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They do not pay for spaces. nm.
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spaces
I asked them about this specifically and they said that wasn't the case. I'm half tempted to have THEM sign a contracted stating everything they are telling me is true.....Lisa
Spaces!
 SoftScript just announced that they are paying for spaced again as of today!
but, did they tell you when the took the spaces away
before. Nice to give them back and admit they took them. Believe it when you see it.
spaces
Do most companies pay for spaces? Are spaces included in the standard 65 character count? Thanks
I know they pay for spaces,
I assumed they were paying the headers and footers, but I never specifically asked, so I can't say for sure.
They don't pay for spaces though
nm
They pay .07 without spaces....
I applied when they first posted the job on MT Jobs. I received an email stating they only paid .07 cpl without spaces. They probably got a lot of resumes but once people found out the low pay, nobody was interested, which is probably why they are hiring again.
No spaces
If you negotiate a better line rate, along with their excellent platform, being paid for headers, and not running out of work, then I just don't get what the big deal is with spaces versus without. With spaces for less money doesn't cut it either. The bottom line is whether you are able to make a fair wage or not and I have found Cymed to be very fair.
Looks like they DO pay for spaces
CTech prefers to us the Net Line (defined below), however we will also price per visual black character and per report. For more information please see our Billing section.
I copied this from the site:
Price per NET/ASCII Line CTech defines a NET/ASCII Line as 65 printable alpha/numeric characters and spaces (no more than two consecutive spaces). ASCII table codes 13 (hard carriage return, only when needed) and 32-125 only. No fixed headers or footers are counted. The pitch and font style are defined by the client and do not impact the price per line. Attributes such as bolded letters, italics, and underlined characters are not charged. The total number of characters divided by 65 is the line count for the document.
They do pay for spaces. It says so right in the ad
They definitely do. I have an interview with them on Monday.
spaces
I was told they did but maybe it depends on the account. I've been with them for over a year and I can tell you, I'm a damn happy camper. Plenty of work, some challenging, but good, good people to work for. I'm IC and pay my own hospitalization, but what's the kick about that? You work to pay for it anyplace else and they call it a benefit. We all worked at MQ or anywhere else for benefits. I'm making over $1000 a week. I can work as much or as little, but I figure if I can't set aside some money to pay for my PTO, then I'm a pretty sorry manager. To me the taxes are no big deal. I'd rather earn a good paycheck, pay my own taxes and hospitalization than work for a company like MQ and I was there for 8 years.
They don't pay for SPACES ask them. nm
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they don't pay spaces
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Do they pay for spaces?
Do they pay for spaces? Do they have a lot of ESLs?
No spaces
In my case, the line rate was higher than what was offered at the other services I talked to who did pay for spaces. Additionally, Cymed pays for headers which can offset some of that, along with a very efficient platform. For me, what I am averaging an hour has been comparable to other companies who paid for spaces.
Spaces or No spaces
Not sure what to do. I currently have two job offers. One is 65 cpl with spaces and the other is 65 cpl without spaces but with headers. Not sure which one to take. They are both offering the same amount of money. Which is better?
No spaces
Wondering what experienced MTs who are willing to work on a 65 character line without spaces think is a fair line rate to compensate for the counting method. Supposedly no spaces equals approximately 20%.
No Spaces
For the MTs who do not get paid for spaces, do you ever feel like all you ever get is long reports? Really feel like I am spinning my wheels lately. Getting paid for headers doesn't really offset much when every report is long.
TT DOES pay for spaces - huh?
NM
Does MQ pay for spaces?
Does MQ pay for spaces?
MDI-MD. Do they pay for spaces and ... sm
can someone tell me the pros and cons of this company. I have generally read good things but most are pretty old. Would especially be interested in their pay scale and whether or not they pay for spaces, the types of accounts and platform, scheduling, etc. Thanks!
Spaces
If you work on the internet platform accounts ,you are paid for spaces. If you work on Lanier accounts, you are not paid for spaces, but it is configured to be equal.
don't pay for spaces
not worth getting out of bed to work for that line rate
Spaces
Would you stay away from a company that doesn't pay spaces? I am thinking about applying to a company that does not pay for spaces and just wanted your opinons.
TIA
Spaces
Yeah, it sucks. I've worked for places that don't pay spaces, and it makes it hard to make good money.
spaces
We have accounts that pay for both spaces and without spaces. We have volume bonuses as well. I have worked on all accounts and with the rates of pay, they average out to be the same, with or without spaces.
Spaces and pay
I have been working for a certain company mentioned here for quite a while now... and I thought it was ME until I saw these. I type 2:1 and my quality is near 99%. I have struggled and struggled to get a decent paycheck. It has been a year in which I am bringing home 400.00 a paycheck every payperiod for 10,000 lines a payperiod after medical insurance is taken out.. yes that is 200.00 a week and that is for over 9 cents a line.
I thought I was losing my mind. I saw my statistics. I was the girl who did 20,000 lines a payperiod and made 2,000. a payperiod and took home 1200.00 after insurance. Now it is 400.00. So, either I'm not being paid for something, spaces, word expanders, and the insurance costs too much, or something... All this time, paid what 4.5 a line? Uggg.
They do not pay for spaces
and they work with WP5.1. IMO if a company does not want to pay for spaces, then they will not get spaces. Iwouldjusttypeeverythingalltogetherandletthemhavesomeoneelseputinthespaces.
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