Shame on MT schools
Posted By: Sherry Lee on 2009-05-23
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Shame on these MT schools saying they can guarantee graduates $60,000 per year!! Of course some say up to, which is very subjective, though very misleading. They ought to let people trying to get into this business know that unless they are fortunate enough to find the right fit, they are in for a bumpy ride.
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Shame, SHAME on you people
for putting the MDI/Transcend people down!!! When the offshoring, mergers, sales, etc. knocks on YOUR door, as it surely will in time, will you still be so self-centered? I am glad the moderator is allowing them time to discuss their plight and I am reading every post and thinking what I can do to help. I am only one little person but I'm speaking loudly about the MT industry to anyone and everyone who might be able to help. I spoke this morning with a person who knows an MT who works for one of the local hospitals that has their MTs working from home. This person told me they are ultraflexible and the MT she knows takes time off to go for a massage. I left my number with our mutual friend and asked her to have her call me, I would like to find out how they have made this work. Sure sounds like going for a massage beats sitting around waiting for work from some MTSO and imagine the flexibility allowing her to do that! I also spoke with an MT who has worked for one of the BIG MTSOs for over a dozen years. She is not willing to trust another MTSO so she went part-time with the BIG one and took a full-time job waitressing where she says she makes much more money. She is so far behind she is in fear of having to file for bankruptcy! Now THAT is pathetic. If she can't make a living in MT anymore it is doubtful anyone can under the current working conditions. I know nothing about MDI or Transcend but those aren't the only MTs who are suffering for lack of work and it seems more are in the boat every day.
Please have patience with these, your brothers and sisters. You may think this can never happen to you but I assure you it CAN and more than likely WILL sooner or later.
So if you have a question you'd like to ask, fire away, I'll answer if I know the answer.
Shame, Shame, Spheris
I just noticed on Spheris's new CS platform on one of my backup accounts (one that happens to also be offshored to India), that not only is a patient's SSN available, birth date, but also the home address and personal phone number. I've never understood why a SSN has always been available, since it is never used to identify a patient, but now all the other personal info is available on this particular account; however, is not available on my primary account (which interestingly is not offshored). I am absolutely appalled that Spheris has made available all this private information, and none of it is required to identify a patient in order to transcribe a report, as the patient is only identified by name and/or account numbers. It scares me that a patient's complete identity is available to any disreputable person with access and willing to profit from this info.
There are schools, and then there are schools.... (sm)
and so far no one where I worked before or currently has been interested in hiring. Some schools are nothing but a scam. Others are excellent. It's the transition period from newly-graduated student to income-producing worker that has a lot to do with the MT shortage. Many newbies throw in the towel and quit the profession because even though they're ready to work, they can't get in. Back in the day, many services & hospitals would take a couple newbies under their wing (I was one of them) to basically learn on-the-job. That may not be a completely viable option nowadays, but something in-between would. Another thing that I'd love to see changed is the snooty attitude many old-timers have to newcomers to the field.
The two best schools seem to be
Andrews and M-Tec. I have been in this industry for decades, both as an MT and MTSO, and it seems that the grads from those two are the most ready to hit the ground running. I wish you luck with getting money back from TranSCAM; they have, unfortunately, ripped off many people who fall for their shtick.
Yes, these schools
just want your money because so many people who get into this field shouldn't be doing it in the first place. It takes certain skills to be able to do this and the schools don't even care if you know how to read, they just want your money. I took a $600 course and finished in 3 months and luckily I found work on this website 3 years ago as a newbie. Since then, others have talked to me about this career and I discourage them if they don't have the capabilities it takes to do this type of work. So many think that it's a piece of cake since they can already type. And it is very difficult to find a job with an internship included. And they want experience, usually 3 to 5 years. Those seem to be very difficult to find these days. I wouldn't recommend it myself and I do enjoy my job.
I wonder about schools s/m
KIds seem to be graduating now without skills in the old basic, reading, writing and arithmetic and it didn't just start recently. Another of my pet peeves is hearing people say, I'm not reliable for accidents. Good grief!!!!! I've heard this spoken and seen it written.
A lot of the crap schools do
take that as truth. I know I certainly did not. There are schools that cannot get you a foot in the door, let alone promise that you can make those amounts.
Then there are schools like Career Step who have information about grads who did/do make that amount...but they don't promise it and have never promised that their grads would make that wage.
It is very possible, but for a lot of us, it's not. We cannot really blame that on the schools. We need to blame ourselves and the companies for the the 5-7 cents a line that we settle for because, like all families, we need to feed our children and pay our bills.
I see it with colleges. You can make this much in this field, you can make that much in that field. It all depends on where you work, how productive you are, what state you are in, tons of factors. Same is true with MT, too many factors.
Nothing is ever promised, especially in this line of work.
I am just happy to have a job that I love, that I am able to have the opportunity to stay at home with my young daughter, have deductions come tax season.
Hey, I made more waitressing than I did doing transcription my first year, but does that mean I want to go back to waitressing? Not a chance. I could have made more at McDonalds, in fact, but do I want to deal with that crap? Not really.
I am thrilled about being an MT and would not trade it for the world and certainly didn't buy into the get rich scheme that a lot of those schools throw our way.
It's a shame that schools have to use that as a way to get people to attend, but it works..and let me tell you, I have plenty of people that have never ever done transcription that tell me what a cake job my job is, you've all heard it before.. I CAN DO THAT, ALL YOU DO IS TYPE
...and THOSE are the people that get backed into the corner by these schools thinkin that this is going to be something that they just type and can throw out lines like crazy and make that $40,000 a year....because we all know, MT is EASY... psshhh. Those schools should have to provide proof and stats.
Recommedations on DL Schools
I am looking to take my MT training. I want to make sure that I choose a distance learning school with very rigorous and demanding courses. I want to learn as much as possible. If anyone has any recommendations, they would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!
Two online schools
that have a record of getting their graduates placed in positions at home WITHOUT needing 2 years of experience are:
Andres
MTEC
Comparing schools
I took a quick look at their website, what they offer, and how much it costs. Are you interested in this course because they say they often hire top graduates? This course does not guarantee you a job with them. They even say you have to go out and market yourself.
As an M-Tec graduate, I can tell you that if you study hard and after graduation really stick to it, you will find a good job. You receive a large number of real books with M-TEC and not just some workbook. With M-TEC you have your own instructor to answer your questions and guide you through the course. Not to mention the online classes and vast online resources they offer. They have their own IT expert, who will answer your questions and holds online classes. After graduation, they will always be there to help if they can. They help with your resume, and after graduation they provide you with a large list of MT companies that hire new grads. Make a list of questions, submit them to the top 2 or 3 schools, and compare answers. Good education has its price, but it will also open doors for you!!
I blame the schools also.
Work at home, big money, easy job. Yeah, right. Just like stuffing envelopes.
these MT schools only care about the sm
money they can get and that is the bottom line.
On the other hand, there have been plenty of MTs on this board who have spoken against these MT schools and their advertising practices. We have said that this is no field to get into if you just want to work at home etc and that no school for four months, six months whatever was going to be enough to get into the field and that it takes years and years of working to even be qualified to work at home alone. But you know what? Everytime somebody talks against the schools and the fact that this profession is going down the tubes because of the attitude of wanting to work at home and make lots of money, we get blasted by other posters with rude and nasty posts.
Many of us have warned folks who wanted to go to these schools, not to do it and folks won't listen. They pay their money and just as you describe, they get out of school and still can't do the job.
Im glad somebody else is saying what the real deal is with these schools and these advertisements because for myself, this is the last time I will ever mention it. Some folks will only learn by doing and wasting their money. They won't listen.
Allied Business Schools, Inc.
I have had no problems getting job offers. Right now I am working for a great lady that really respects her MTs. She just got a new account, so she is growing, which is a good thing. I can work whenever I want, literally. The only she asks is that I do at least 30 minutes of dictation a day for five days a week. Of course, I will do way more than that, but it is nice to know that if I need a break for a day or two then she won't mind.s
I wish you the best of luck!!!
There are 2 great on-line schools
that are so good their graduates are hired right away: Andrews and M-Tec.
Don't accept less than the best where your livelihood is concerned.
Here my schools requirements for an externship
I am enrolled at Kaplan University in the AS degree program for medical transcription
MR203: Medical Externship and Evaluation (3 Credits) |
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Course Description Successful completion of this course will require 90 hours of transcription experience at an approved health care setting. Students will be evaluated on the performance of expected competencies at the end of the course. The course requires a final presentation. The online version of MR203 requires each student to locate their own externship site and obtain approval by the clinical coordinator prior to beginning externship. |
Course Objective By the end of this course, you should be able to:
- Transcription of health care dictation to demonstrate accomplishment of the transcription program outcome (MRT-1).
- Prepararation of patient care documents to demonstrate accomplishment of the patient records outcome (MRT-2).
- Medical Transcription practice within the ethical guidelines, standards, regulations, and laws demonstrating accomplishment of the standards, laws, and ethics program outcome (MA-3).
- Application of learned foundational knowledge demonstrating accomplishment of the foundational knowledge program outcome (MA-4).
- Professional communication and conduct demonstrating accomplishment of the professionalism program outcome (MA-5).
I agree with you about the way substandard schools
operate, but I would call people who fell into their traps, 'suckers.'
I am convinced that they came into this profession with diligence and the honest wish to give their best, work hard. but were overwhelmed by what they were confronted as not well- and enough-trained newbies.
They were misinformed and taken advantage of by misrepresentation and false promises.
and they can afford to BUY TRANSCRIPTION SCHOOLS!!!
...and they didn't lower the cost for the HOSPITALS! They're just pocketing all the money they are making by RAPING US of our pay!!!!!
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!
Gee, ya think that's maybe why the original poster asked about SCHOOLS??
Amazing! Obviously brains are not too much of a requirement...Ya just had to get that dig in about how hard it is due to medical "language", yadda, yadda. Give it a break and say something we or the original poster DIDN'T know!
MQ will hire newbies from "approved schools", what are they? sm
I am considering going through a community college that has a 100 hour internship program at the end. I want to know if this will be enough to hire on as a trainee with them.
Is it just Career Step they approve of? Anyone know?
It's all those matchcover schools telling them they can make
$40,000-50,000 in their first year working at home while their small children play quietly at their feet! The only ones getting rich are the so-called schools. There ought to be somewhere to turn them in for false advertising.
How do these MT schools get away with saying you can make $40,000 per year. That is a fake
advertisement and should be banned!
Has anyone else seen ads for MT schools that promise 40,000 yearly? This doesn't appear to be tru
with my experience, at least starting out anyway.
I know of 2 MTs from reputable schools who started w/o the 2 year exp. nm
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Yep, one of the "top 3 schools" has grads that will work for this.
On the forum of the MT school I graduated from, I see all the time new MTs taking jobs for 1-2 cpl for editing jobs. Right now there are posts of those willing to work for free just to get experience. It drives me crazy. They don't get that they are driving the rates down for everyone. Why would a company pay more when there are new grads beating down their door to work for 1-2 cents per line. They don't get that they are ruining the profession they have just worked so hard to get into.
They changed their name ... check the AAMT list of schools
it shows it as being changed
It's a myth perpetuated by the students and staff at those schools. nm
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A lot? You've got to be kidding. Name them. "Big schools" still don't equal experience.
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that is such a shame.
I have lots of work. What kind of account were you on? The platform I am on is great and the sound quality is the best I have ever worked on. When it did start to get slow for me, they gave me another account and then told me I could have another on top of those 2 if I needed it.
Funny how things can be so different for people.
The shame is that many of your
colleagues who are scheduled to work do not hold up their end often forcing the company to add others to keep the work covered. It is a shame with fault on both ends of the stick we keep poking each other with.
And it would be a shame if somebody.....
ACTUALLY put their real name on here and had enough maturity to say who they are --- Gee! If you mean what you say, you shouldn't be afraid to say who you are especially if you are legitimate. And if you are legitimate, anybody that has any common sense would know this is not how you take care of a problem - in a grown up world at least.
None taken.....it's a shame, isn't it? nm
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What a shame
I worked for them when they were HealthScribe and I hated them. I left as soon as my 6-month sentence was up and I never looked back. I was hoping that with the Spheris merger things might have gotten a bit better, but it's apparent they haven't. Reading this brought back so many memories (all unpleasant). It's really a shame - they give the transcription field a bad name.
It's a shame, they used to be
very well respected. I worked there for a little more than a year and saw things happen that I did not agree with (training in Trinidad, etc..).
I never really had a problem with management. My first manager was promoted (she was great). The lady who replaced her...I think she bit off more than she could chew and realized that the position was too much for her. Then my team finally got a new manager and she was nice as well.
To me, the pay scale was not hard to figure out. It was based on lines per hour, QA score and how much work you sent through to QA. It was, unfortunately, on the low side. The account I was on was very good, so I didn't have a problem meeting my line count. I have heard that the recruiter they have now (who is not the recruiter that hired me) couldn't explain how the pay scale worked.
All in all I felt they were a decent company. The Trinidad thing made quite a few people nervous and unsettled. I was one that was uncomfortable with it. I thought the grass would be greener on the other side, but it wasn't. Honestly, I would go back if offered. I miss the flexible scheduling and the account I was on.
its a shame
that its happening and also the poor MT that have lost respect also.
Shame on him then!!
Shame on him then!!!
shame on you all
And you are NOT a class act. You are dishonest. That unemployment money comes out of my pocket (government = taxes). It's not money from Keystrokes. You were working; therefore, you don't deserve unemployment. (Duh!) I don't care if you got the account from hell. Too bad. Life's not fair. Move on and work for your money.
What a shame.
What a shame that any company would jeopardize the livelihoods of its employees for such obvious disrespect of the law and for a person who certainly has a right to live their life without the intrusion of their employer. Who of us can give 100% to their job if we have family and other responsibilities? It shows the extreme short-sightedness and disregard of common law that this man has. I hope that people remember this when they see his ads for employment and that hard working MTs steer clear of a company such as this. Ego that is so inflated as to think you are above the statutes that govern how you do business is just too much .. I hope this woman takes him to the cleaners! Her intention was to return to work. He has no right to determine whether or not she can give 100%, most particularly for such an owner, good luck with that!
What a shame
Such a shame that companies ruin their own reputations by permitting unprofessional ''Ms Nasties to run rampant. They miss out on some good/sharp MTs who simply refuse to work with unprofessional rude people with obvious issues. To put up with silly whimsical nit-picking QAs is bad enough, but rude supervisors who abuse their little modicum of authority is enough to make many an expert MT say thanks but no thanks and move on.
And shame on you
for making assumptions which have no basis in fact. No one squashed the crap (is gutter language necessary in your posts?) out of anyone. I was merely stating something that anyone should have known. And no, I do not work for MDI. Stating you had no work is not legally actionable, but casting aspersions on another's character is. And yes, I quote the Golden Rule and live by it.
That's a shame
sorry for your boyfriend's loss. :(
Shame on you WMX. Shame on you!
All of your talk about being bold and being better than the rest, I actually feel nauseated. You are no better than the rest. I am so disgusted with this industry and what you are doing to us.
that's a real shame
sorry to hear they sold out in such a huge way... they didnt used to think this way.
That's a shame but hang in there
I'm do a different platform/client, but I also hired in this summer, and went through a rough time at first. I talked to my supe, and after changing my schedule a bit and taking on two secondaries, things have become much better, and there's actually been OT on my accounts for the last few weeks.
Check the backlogs on the community page. Some accounts regularly have OT approved (its in the little box at the top left, who's approved for OT and for how long). Maybe you can get trained on some of those. Are you willing to change your schedule at all? My accounts consistently have certain heavier days than others, and before I was off during the heavy days. My supe asked me to shift my schedule and it has made a very positive difference.
And what a darn shame too, because if there
wasn't the MT no one else would have a job.
That's a shame about the increase
excited to be getting to work for that company. Keystrokes has a high plan too and are looking into it, but I've read that on here for over a year now. I guess I have nothing nice to say, so I'd better be quiet. Sometimes saying too many good things can jinx us!
Shame on you, Karl
First of all, no need to yell.
You call MTs pompous? I think not. I trump your experience with 40+ years. Just as all other businesses, there are good MTs who do their job and do it well; there are those who care for nothing past their own paycheck.
I have not, and will not, knowingly work for a company who offshores so I have no first hand knowledge of the quality of MTs in other countries. Certainly they have the right to improve their living standards but at the expense of our AMERICAN brothers and sisters? I think not. Look at the ads on the Job Seekers Board. Hundreds and thousands of views on each and every one of those ads. This tells me that there are plenty of MTs, many perhaps newbees, in this country looking for and needing work. You say you are QA swat team. This tells me that the offshores need lots of QA-ing. So why not swat for people in our own country first? I will tell you why.....GREED....not only from the transcription companies, but from the suits in the medical profession who are only interested in the bottom line profit statement. And there are people like you who try to justify this
Again, I say shame on you for taking part in cutting opportunites for AMERICAN jobs and for being a part of the reason wages are falling. Maybe this has not affected you personally at this point but trust me, it will sooner or later.
Shame on them! What do they pay for abnormal ones?,,nm
It is a darn SHAME
WEBMEDX is a click. If you don't know someone personally and are not someone's friend personally, FORGET IT, they will trash you and think nothing of it...Great Job Today, On the streets tomorrow. They don't care who they hurt or who they Belittle. The QA mentoring is LAZY also.
It's a shame, too, Skunko....
I was really enjoying our intelligent exchange of information until the trollster came thru. I have nothing but respect for you and NightOwl and various other posters who contributed to this discussion. I love exchanging ideas and tips and always feel like I can learn something from someone else.
I gotta hand it to you, though, girlfriend...If I had to practically rewrite every sentence that came down the pipe, I'd be pulling my hair out! I'd love to see you have one day of good dictators and relatively clean reports so you could experience the difference. I think you'd really enjoy it. It sucks that there's so many 'cooks in the kitchen' and such a vast number of dictators at the Q that it kinda defeats the purpose of having VR at all :-( .
And shame on the MT wannabes
who don't do thorough due diligence before giving one red cent to any of the schools. It is because of this naive attitude that the matchbook schools thrive. It seems that nobody wants to take responsibility for their own well-being anymore. Part of being a good MT is doing exhaustive research. IMHO, researching a potential school is step number one. Good luck to everyone, do your homework before picking a school!
And shame on the MT wannabes
who don't do thorough due diligence before giving one red cent to any of the schools. It is because of this naive attitude that the matchbook schools thrive. It seems that nobody wants to take responsibility for their own well-being anymore. Part of being a good MT is doing exhaustive research. IMHO, researching a potential school is step number one. Good luck to everyone, do your homework before picking a school!
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