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Unions exist to make money for unions.
That's the truth. They don't care if companies close because they can't afford to pay union wages, and then the workers have nothing.
and posters who post posts to themselves--sm
as in either agreeing with or disagreeing with, just to get the flames higher. There is one below who did just that, just to see who would agree with someone who was flaming her for being hard on *whiners*, but she outed herself and admitted she had done it just to get *credit due her*. I think we should all be *registered* under a forum name, so that when we post, it will not be quite so anonymous anymore and potentially stop a lot of the incessant picking on of other posters and their opinions. and this is just my opinion. This is the only board I have ever frequented where a person is allowed to post under any such name they want, and cause such havoc. jmo.
Take OSI discussion to email. Posts will be removed until certain posters
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Unions are on the side of the Unions!
You have a very glorified view of unions. For many years, unions have been associated with graft, corruption, and greed, and for good reason. The unions are in business for the unions, period. Unions will twist the truth to whatever extent necessary to pit workers against management. That is how they stay in business. Have you ever seen info about the salaries that union bosses make? They are atrocious. Unions are a BUSINESS. They are in business for themselves. They are NOT charitable organizations out to help workers, although that is what they say. They will only help the worker to the extent that it lines their pockets.
Unions
Yeah. Unions have worked really well for the auto workers.
I don't see where unions have done anything for anybody.
My brother was in the aircraft mechanics union. He paid BIG dues. He worked 3 years without a contract with a major airline. When they were negotiating, the airline told them that they would give them their raises on paper but that they were going belly up and would use the mechanics as their scapegoat because they demanded more money. That is exactly what happened. The airline went belly up and the mechanics were the scapegoats. They never saw one penny of any raise.
Unions are just another big business. They take the workers' money, and the workers are just puppets doing what they're told, striking when they're told, unable to feed their family because of unions.
Unions
WE CAN'T WIN!! So I guess I'm just going to shut up and type some more!
Unions not the answer
I strongly disagree that unions will solve the problems afflicting the MT field. As long as there is outsourcing and other alternatives to traditional transcription, such as voice recognition, there will continue to be downward pressure on MT wages. Years ago when I worked in Human Resources for health care facilities, I sat on the other side of the negotiating table negotiating union contracts (our nurses were unionized), and I am appalled to this day at the underhanded tactics used by the unions. And talk about overinflated salaries - it is truly shocking what union officials make, and it all comes out of the pockets of union members who get a rather dubious return on their union dues. I just don't believe unionization will solve our problems. I think the only thing that will stop the downward pressure on MT pay is if an end is put to outsourcing (and I don't think its unrealistic to think that could happen at some point).
I've been in unions and know what
they can do for you. Without unions there would be no vacation pay, sick days, 40 hour week (for some).
I would very definitely love to be part of a union and also would be willing to strike if necessasry to make this happen.
Like all unions, strength is in the numbers so let's hope people support the idea.
Unions would help us get some recognition
Currently it's lacking 100%. Look at AAMT/AHDI -- they don't represent us, they're killing us. They need to be investigated and put on a short leash ASAP.
obama and unions
link The big money companies would not allow and would fight it big time. I know one southern California hospital sure did fight unionization
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/us/politics/09labor.html
It is too late for unions. It never would have worked.
bebe
If IC's can't join EXISTING unions, then maybe
it's time for MTs to form a union that DOES include IC's, especially since they are a large part of this industry. They deserve better wages, too.
Completely agree. Before unions,
people were forced to work 7 days a week, 12 hour days, no benefits, no overtime, no minimum wage, no safety standards, etc etc etc.... THANK YOU UNIONS.
You know, there are unions in place already. Here is their payscales....
Full-time and part-time employee hospital positions payscales are as follows:
MT Level 1 to Level 3=
$23.68 to $28.70 per hour plus benefits which include 401b, health insurance, dental, vision, life insurance, Wellness Programs, 24 PTO days, plus paid holidays and a few other perks.
Did you not do your homework?
The payscales you have in this post are way too low.
Unions haven't helped much in years
Sadly, they've become more of a corporation themselves. You pay dues and if a conpany wants to bail or relocate or outsource, they still can and do.
Truth about unions - good for employees
My huband is a union member. Union membership is voluntary, with it you pay dues, in exchange your union officials bargain with the company for fair wages, benefits, and pensions. A union signs a contract and during that time, the employees have job security. If there is low work because the offshore companies messed up or shipments didn't come in, it is their union that pays them subpay to compensate the difference between average earnings and unemployment if he has a week off. Also, we pay nada for health insurance premiums, only $10 for office visit, and $5/$15 for Rx, 0 for dental 50% for orthodontics, and $20 for glasses. Without the union supporting these workers they would have no ground to stand on with regard to pay and benefits and working conditions. Thanks to the union, if my husband works Saturdays its time and a half, Sunday are double-time and heaven forbid a holiday he gets paid triple time. When he retires, we keep the benefits and a nice pension. Unions are not all about the mob - I have family in chicago and it is not as you describe it. Chicago is a high crime area and it's not the unions that are causing the problem, it is the quality of people who work in SOME of the factories which are lower paying and the socioeconomic drive that results in shady business and your so called mobter and gangster life.
Well, MY experience with unions is the exact opposite...
My dad was in a textile worker's union for 35 years. He had to go through a strike when he had 3 small kids. For six weeks, he received $20 a week and only two bags of groceries for the whole duration. He lost his job at 35 years from the plant closing. That is not to mention that his union wages had us always barely making it, and the union never once did a thing about the conditions they had to work in. He has struggled with a form of bladder cancer for 19 years from working in those conditions and the chemicals used there.
Ask the auto manufacturers what the union has done for them. Yes, the workers are making it fine laid off, but the companies are near death. Those companies feed our nation. We're 1000 miles from Detroit and our livelihood depends on those car companies staying up and running. My husband's company does not make a thing related to cars, but the company that OWNS his company does.
Bottom line is that if this industry has come to the point that we are discussing needing a union, then maybe we need to either get government intervention to standardize the industry, set regulations about ONLY US work for US medical records, and use only certified workers, OR we need to go back to college for our next career choice.
Unions in Canada, MTs make $23 hour plus Yep
I communicate with an MT in Canada and that is what she relayed.
Posts from April said everyone gets 8.5 cpl/newbie or experienced. Recent posts said
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to posters above and below...
Stick to your guns and make it crystal clear that you want the HOSPITAL employee position. That was also my experience. I like my hospital employee gig. E-mail me if you wish!
Job Posters
Do you all notice some of these job postings: *experienced, reliable and conscientious MT. Testing required* and then go on to say they pay 7-8 cpl depending on experience?*
EXPERIENCED, reliable and conscietious MTs that have to take a test to even be considered DEFINITELY deserve more than 7-8 cpl.
I though unions not legal in some states (right-to-work states) nm
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I beg to differ with the other posters (sm)
I've been with MQ for four years and I am very happy. No one hounds me, heck, yesterday I was gone to lunch for two hours, and NO ONE called me asking where I was. As it has been stated before numerous times, things differ from office to office at MQ! That's just the nature of the game. Don't judge MQ by what other people say, I almost did, and probably would have lived to regret it. I'd say give them a try, what have you got to lose? Good Luck!!!
I agree. It seems as though many posters
complain about no work but I have to wonder how hard they work when their account is out of TAT. I have my two boys home with me daily. They are napping right now and in between breakfast, lunch, breaking up an occasional fight and all the hugs and kisses I can stand, I have still managed to type 2200 lines already today.
Sierra, the 2 posters below are RIGHT.
Both of their answers are right on.
I make a LOT of money with the same companies most people b**** about. I don't care what THEY think. I make good money and have fab bennies.
I stop by here every couple of weeks or so and usually just read to get a good laugh but the problems are always the same on this board: No one wants to work, they wanna sit and chat and post...every word you type HERE is COSTING you cents and cents add up to money, honey. No one here wants to leave a company if they're unhappy...staying there will make you as hateful as the so-called hateful company you complain about. No one here wants to give any company a chance for their OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE...apparently, no one can make a decision on their own. They just take other people's views and opinions and make them their own. How weak and feeble-minded is that?
Read sm and anon posts below. They'll get you going in the right direction. And forget all the negs on this board...LMAO - call 'em naggin' negs. ROOFFLLL
Okay to work for, but the other posters are right!
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The other posters are correct sm
Not only is their pay so low, but you are actually penalized for blanks and needing help. This is why they are constantly advertising on a national level. There are plenty of local transcriptionists who would work for them if pay and conditions were decent. I would recommend staying away!
It is the posters who are embarrassing with their
LOL
TIA, are there mulitple posters who use this
If not, you are all over the place. How many different companies do you work for. You have tons of posts about tons of different companies. What gives?
Thanks to all 3 posters above. I will look where you suggested! nm
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To the three rude posters...
Why do you even bother replying when you are going to be so rude and negative? Some people on this board are unbelievable. She's asking the question for people that want to answer - nobody requires anyone to answer anything. However, I am sure that the reply 'nunya' was really helpful though - geez...
I got into it so I could stay home with my kids. My husband does have a good job with benefits that are pretty good. I wanted out of the office atmosphere anyway, all the gossip and BS.
I agree with other posters that there is something
disingenuous (sp?) or creepy almost about the RAVE reviews over and over for this company. The language of the posts is suspect as well - how many MTs call each other MLS? So many of the posts just sound like canned recruiting posts - sorry. That's my take as well. And one thing I know 4 sure in this industry - when MTs do find that miracle company, they don't go blabbing it all over so that thousands of other MTs can apply. That's one thing that is a given. And all this hiring? Something is odd about that as well. So its not just 1 or 2 skeptics - I have a feeling there are a lot of us!
I agree 100% with the posters below!
Not to say all nationals are this way, but the one I work for now is terrible about communication, basically ignores e-mails, and generally leaves you with no way to reach them. I truly do feel like a mindless drone some days. You might find the change tough after being in-house for so long. Just my opinion here. Good luck to you! :-)
I also agree with the other 2 posters...
Been with OSi for several years. I never run out of work and pay has always been on time.
oh my bad ... I see you do have really happy posters
see thread way at the bottom.
Keystroke posters
It could also be because when they post questions on the other board which they are given access to when they begin working for KS - they are required to use the KS initials so that their supervisor can check up on them and see if they made an inquiry to the MTdaily board before leaving a blank. Then if they haven't - it's a reprimand. Been there - done that - glad it's over.
thanks for input from posters below...
I had been made a verbal offer, so nothing submitted in writing. I did just call, and will be receiving my paperwork today. Thanks for the info.
What is strange to me, are posters who use a reg.
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TT posters see message
Hello all. I'm getting hit from both directions with emails and reports here! Sorry, I don't work for TT so I don't know what is true and what is not. From what I can see below there was a problem today, but it has already been addressed and fixed by the company.
With that being said, I will leave these messages on the board. I'm going to ask that this conversation be done though. I'm getting requests from both sides asking for removals of certain posts or all of the posts. Everyone wants a place to post and get their questions answered or simply to find information, so as a general rule we want to leave the information to be found. However, this topic has gone beyond that and turned into nothing but an argument. Even the non-TT posters are getting in on the argument. I appreciate everyone's understanding.
Javabean (MTStars Moderator)
OK, I don't work for TT, but other posters SM
have stated they are rapidly moving into SR and if you don't do SR, you don't have any work. They have been posting that for the last several months.
disagree with the other posters...
First, you are miserable and believe they want you gone anyway. Second, you are not confident they will pay you. With my experience of over 30 years as MT, i say NO, just quit with no notice. If it puts them in a pickle, it's of their own making. I don't believe it will hurt your future prospects. Why not? Because you worked for them a number of years -- that speaks for itself. You have the medical knowledge and can produce well. You'll be fine. Besides, so many employers never check your references anyway. Usual questions are where you worked and for how long, and why you left. Why make yourself miserable and not be paid for it? You'll find another job. and if its not the right one, you can keep looking. but in the meantime, you'll be PAID for your work and not be so unhappy (which isn't good for your health!!). Go for it.
Um, you slammed her. That's why other posters
felt the need to come in and try to make her feel better, take the burn out of her monitor. Other posters got the point across to her, without making her feel like an evil insider of Transcam, or a moron. Poor thing will probably never post again. Your postings are very borderline tonight - one post friendly, next post slamming. Go back and read your posts after you're in another mood, and you should see my point. But then wrapping up all the love with a Golden Rule motto just really sealed the deal. Peace out to you, too.
Quite a few posters have mentioned doing this..nm
This board needs more posters like you;) I know they are out there, but..sm
sadly so many are afraid to post for fear of receiving negative responses. I also believe the good outnumbers the bad. We all just need to start ignoring the negativity because it feeds on attention. If we would all just stop feeding it, may it will starve to death and just go away. You can count me in!!
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To posters below: This post says
'Maybe you could have an experienced fellow MT look over some of your work', keyword being WORK, not TEST, so calm down.
I agree with the other posters...
hang in there and keep testing...Good luck!!!!
I disagree with the posters below
that there are no greener pastures. I have found a terrific company I have been with for 6 months. I love, love, love it. I had to take the chance myself in trying it out, and figure out what was most important to me in terms of scheduling, platform, and pay. That's what you are going to have to do, too.
You have to always bear in mind that things can change in a heartbeat at any company. Accounts come and go, personnel changes, policies change, and the once perfect company can take a nosedive or a once yucky company can become a transcriptionist's dream. You have to go with the flow.
I would agree but most of these posters...
Do not yet even have experience with VR, much less VR with the accounts at TT.
They are so busy playing chicken little and threatening a 'mass exodus' (love that one, lol!) that they have already decided they will hate it. And, human nature being such as it is, because they have already made up their minds it's inferior, they will lose pay AND for some inexplicable reason it's a threat to patient care, they will NEVER adapt to it and thus are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
My account at TT is basically 85% VR and I love it. I took no cut in pay; my production doubled and therefore my salary is pretty much exactly what it was with straight transcription. I honestly don't see why all of these posters are flying off of the handle and ASSUMING things until they give it a try.
It just goes against logic and defies explanation to prejudge something before even giving it a chance, IMHO.
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