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Not paying for spaces can be okay if the characters per line is shorter.

Posted By: see message on 2005-12-21
In Reply to: Old posts say they don't pay for spaces. Don't know about now. nm - Wanderer

55 characters without spaces is roughly equivalent to 65 with spaces.


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Old posts say improper line counting and not paying for spaces were SOME of the probs. nm
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Shorter line is mo betta for MT
They will tell you whether it includes spaces or not. 
55 characters with no spaces
Using the Apex platform, I found this calculation to be a major rip off.  Not sure why.
black characters=without spaces.
nm
Transcribing = 9 cpl 65 characters including spaces.
Good company, great people. Give them a try.
usually 55 does not count spaces and that's a lot of unpaid characters. NM
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About 5 years ago was offered 10 cpl including spaces, 65 characters. sm
Don't know about now. That was doing all acute care, mainly op reports with full benefit package.

I declined and have my own accounts, but it was a good offer.

Good luck.
Cquence pay is 65-character with NO spaces, only black characters which equates to
approximately 1.5 to 2 cents per line less than 65-character with spaces.
It means characters that are printed in black and white - no spaces included. nm
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Keystrokes accounts all count the expanders as characters printed with spaces, not the abbreviation.
I have checked it, but we use Shorthand. What are you using?
Maybe it's not 65 characters per line???

1600 lines is a lot.  It doesn't mention vacation time though does it?


55 is better--less characters for a line,
therefore more lines UNLESS it is black character only--i.e. not counting spaces. Some companies do it this way instead of paying for 65 character line (spaces included).
line count/65 characters
Is it possible to change the number of characters that are a considered a line, i.e.
Could you redefine the line as being 50 characters. Or is this just stuck into the program at 65/line. You may E-mail if you like CTighe3568@aol.com. Your help would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!
Paying for spaces?
Run from a company that does not pay for spaces. Your thumb gets a workout just like the rest of the fingers. My thumb is worth compensation! lol
75 characters per line?? Today I called about a job
and the pay started at 7.5 cents a line ----- but 75 characters per line.  Has anybody heard of that before?  The job is acute care with high amount of ESLs.  What will they think of next? 
Depends. How many characters make up a line?
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It could mean that a gross line will not exceed 65 characters. nm
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At least they were upfront with u on not paying for spaces...
they told me mine included spaces and it doesn't!! RIDICULOUS!!
IF NOT PAYING FOR SPACES BEHIND YOUR BACK
nm
Companies not paying for spaces
Hi everyone:  I normally produce at least 1200 lines a day and working with a company that does not pay for spaces.  Wow!!! what a diff.  Very discourgaged at this point. 
VBC is code for not paying for spaces
Don't be deceived. VBC (virtual black character) is simply a new way of saying - no pay for hitting the spacebar between words.
perhaps not paying for spaces does not start until your
MTSOs contract is renewed with that particular VA hospital.
So is LeePerfect still paying for spaces, or just VBC?
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But no longer paying for spaces IS a pay cut...?
If spaces previously being paid for are no longer being paid, that constitutes a pay cut; not in the sense of cents per line or cents per character, but nonetheless a cut in pay.

Your post totally confused me.
What company isn't paying spaces?
What Editscript company stopped paying for spaces?   Confused?
I never understood how MTSOs came up with not paying for spaces. sm
You have to hit the spacebar just like anything else, and the document would be pretty darned hard to read without them.  I refuse to work for cheaterhead companies like that. Thanks for passing along the information.
MEANT to type NOT paying for SPACES....TOO EARLY.NM
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I would think that black and WHITE means they pay for both black characters and spaces.
There is no such thing as a white character. But I would definitely clarify this in your interview.
Used to use this in a hospital setting, admin could change the number of characters per line (sm)
at one point they had us typing an 80 character line. Talk about zapping your line rates down. Of course we worked for an hourly rate so it really didn't matter, just management's way of pushing us to do more. They only required 800 lines per day for a FT MT so they were trying to get their moneys worth I guess.
Spaces are not taken into account with gross lines....a line is a line...sm

if there seven words on a line.


or two


one


or a full line of typing...all of the companies that I have worked for define a gross line as 1 inch margins, 12 pt courier font....does not matter what we type in margins or font.....we convert all reports to the 1 inch margins and courier 12 font and then count the lines.  not the blank spaces between the lines.


Hope this helps.


I see they pay on a VBC line. Isn't that a huge paycut from a 65-char. line with spaces? nm
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A gross line is not based on characters. A gross line is
anything on the line constitutes a line, so if you only have 1 word on a line it is still counted as a line.   A gross line at 8 cpl roughly translates to 10 cpl/65 character. 
Any companies paying .10+/line?
If so, who and where are they?? 
They are paying 0.05 per 65/char line for VR nm
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No. But I see they are only paying 7 cents a line
You can get clients if you undercut. But it is getting good transcriptionists that is the trick if you pay so little.
Are they paying by the line or the hour?
How much?
Paying by the line or by the hour
If they are not paying you by the hour, but BY THE LINE, it is actually none of their business when you take breaks as long as you meet TAT.  That is a problem I am perceiving with some of these places:  expecting you to sit at your computer for a fixed amount of hours EVEN IF THERE IS NO WORK.
You are exactly right. It is the crap companies paying by the line. (nm)
nm
Transcend was paying more than pennies for line
about Precyse.  Transcend was not a bad company to work for but I guess since they offshore MTs stay away.  I had a personal situation to where I couldn't stay with Transcend, but their platform was not too bad if you like VR.  I was, however, asked not to divulge the cpl so I won't even though I am not employed with them at the current time.  Pay was ontime.  They were nice people in my opinion especially the recruiter; she was great.  The trainer was okay, but the class size was too big.  There were five people training on five different accounts at one time with one trainer (webinar) with trainer by telephone.  
Wow, if you're paying ICs $1.50 a line, count me in! nm

companies paying by gross line
Does anyone know any companies that pay by gross line?  Any info would be appreciated. 
Ok, so give some examples then. I can attest that more than less are paying by the line
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If they have troubles paying it does not may what they "pay" per line. run aways
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10 spaces per line
that's the average using 1 space after a period which most places already do.

An average line has 10 words.

so if you are being paid VBC, make sure you are being paid on a 55 char line or less.

37-character line without spaces much better...SM

Hi!  I just checked an OP note I did yesterday.  Characters with spaces was 5935.  I get paid on a 65-character line with spaces, so that came out to 91.3 lines.


Characters without spaces was 4999.  So, if you divide that by 37, you get 135.1 lines.


In the first scenario, I would get paid $8.22.


In the second scenario, I would get paid $12.16. (If both pay the same per line...9 cents in this example).


So, you would definitely do better to accept the 37-character line withOUT spaces! :)


Chickadee


Spaces are about 27% of a 65 char line
nm
55 char line with spaces
Ok guys how does a 55 char line WITH spaces = to a 65 char line.  I was offered 8 for 55 char line with spaces and counts underlines, bolds, hard returns etc.
55 char line with spaces
Is 8cpl for a 55 char line with spaces and double counts for bold, underline, etc a good rate.  Sorry, but i am used to getting paid for a 65 character line.  What does this equal out to?  Does anyone know how to figure it out.  TIA!!
Of course they pay for spaces and I believe the line counts to be appropriate sm

I said appropriate without making a statement about accuracy.  My body knows when I have made my 1100 minimum.  I can do that in about half to two-thirds of a shift.  I can tell when I am at my usual 1600 to 1700 lines for a day too.


I'll agree...base rate is not stellar, but then again I never make that...I make more.  I am routinely on the third line rate incentive tier, which puts me up above the last line rate I was paid.  There is a QA bonus and I have gotten that which is per line bonus back to line one.  It is easy for high-caliber MTs to make very good money.


With the better insurance rates they have come up with, all those bonuses and the wonderful people...well I have found my heaven on earth.


 


Is their line 65 chars with spaces, etc.?
What platform are you using? (Do they have more than one?) Were you able to get a rate equivalent to what MDI paid you?
Low line counts; paying long distance; getting crap work skipped by others.
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