It's all those matchcover schools telling them they can make
Posted By: you're right. on 2005-12-21
In Reply to: If you get an hourly job, you can. But alone, on production as a newbie, sm - MTx32
$40,000-50,000 in their first year working at home while their small children play quietly at their feet! The only ones getting rich are the so-called schools. There ought to be somewhere to turn them in for false advertising.
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How do these MT schools get away with saying you can make $40,000 per year. That is a fake
advertisement and should be banned!
Telling a company when you make a move
That is being held accountable for letting someone know where you'll be for that time. I still think IC for flexibility is the way to go. Furthermore, don't be surprised when that is someday thrown back in your face. It happens.
There are schools, and then there are schools.... (sm)
and so far no one where I worked before or currently has been interested in hiring. Some schools are nothing but a scam. Others are excellent. It's the transition period from newly-graduated student to income-producing worker that has a lot to do with the MT shortage. Many newbies throw in the towel and quit the profession because even though they're ready to work, they can't get in. Back in the day, many services & hospitals would take a couple newbies under their wing (I was one of them) to basically learn on-the-job. That may not be a completely viable option nowadays, but something in-between would. Another thing that I'd love to see changed is the snooty attitude many old-timers have to newcomers to the field.
The two best schools seem to be
Andrews and M-Tec. I have been in this industry for decades, both as an MT and MTSO, and it seems that the grads from those two are the most ready to hit the ground running. I wish you luck with getting money back from TranSCAM; they have, unfortunately, ripped off many people who fall for their shtick.
Yes, these schools
just want your money because so many people who get into this field shouldn't be doing it in the first place. It takes certain skills to be able to do this and the schools don't even care if you know how to read, they just want your money. I took a $600 course and finished in 3 months and luckily I found work on this website 3 years ago as a newbie. Since then, others have talked to me about this career and I discourage them if they don't have the capabilities it takes to do this type of work. So many think that it's a piece of cake since they can already type. And it is very difficult to find a job with an internship included. And they want experience, usually 3 to 5 years. Those seem to be very difficult to find these days. I wouldn't recommend it myself and I do enjoy my job.
I wonder about schools s/m
KIds seem to be graduating now without skills in the old basic, reading, writing and arithmetic and it didn't just start recently. Another of my pet peeves is hearing people say, I'm not reliable for accidents. Good grief!!!!! I've heard this spoken and seen it written.
A lot of the crap schools do
take that as truth. I know I certainly did not. There are schools that cannot get you a foot in the door, let alone promise that you can make those amounts.
Then there are schools like Career Step who have information about grads who did/do make that amount...but they don't promise it and have never promised that their grads would make that wage.
It is very possible, but for a lot of us, it's not. We cannot really blame that on the schools. We need to blame ourselves and the companies for the the 5-7 cents a line that we settle for because, like all families, we need to feed our children and pay our bills.
I see it with colleges. You can make this much in this field, you can make that much in that field. It all depends on where you work, how productive you are, what state you are in, tons of factors. Same is true with MT, too many factors.
Nothing is ever promised, especially in this line of work.
I am just happy to have a job that I love, that I am able to have the opportunity to stay at home with my young daughter, have deductions come tax season.
Hey, I made more waitressing than I did doing transcription my first year, but does that mean I want to go back to waitressing? Not a chance. I could have made more at McDonalds, in fact, but do I want to deal with that crap? Not really.
I am thrilled about being an MT and would not trade it for the world and certainly didn't buy into the get rich scheme that a lot of those schools throw our way.
It's a shame that schools have to use that as a way to get people to attend, but it works..and let me tell you, I have plenty of people that have never ever done transcription that tell me what a cake job my job is, you've all heard it before.. I CAN DO THAT, ALL YOU DO IS TYPE
...and THOSE are the people that get backed into the corner by these schools thinkin that this is going to be something that they just type and can throw out lines like crazy and make that $40,000 a year....because we all know, MT is EASY... psshhh. Those schools should have to provide proof and stats.
Recommedations on DL Schools
I am looking to take my MT training. I want to make sure that I choose a distance learning school with very rigorous and demanding courses. I want to learn as much as possible. If anyone has any recommendations, they would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!
Two online schools
that have a record of getting their graduates placed in positions at home WITHOUT needing 2 years of experience are:
Andres
MTEC
Comparing schools
I took a quick look at their website, what they offer, and how much it costs. Are you interested in this course because they say they often hire top graduates? This course does not guarantee you a job with them. They even say you have to go out and market yourself.
As an M-Tec graduate, I can tell you that if you study hard and after graduation really stick to it, you will find a good job. You receive a large number of real books with M-TEC and not just some workbook. With M-TEC you have your own instructor to answer your questions and guide you through the course. Not to mention the online classes and vast online resources they offer. They have their own IT expert, who will answer your questions and holds online classes. After graduation, they will always be there to help if they can. They help with your resume, and after graduation they provide you with a large list of MT companies that hire new grads. Make a list of questions, submit them to the top 2 or 3 schools, and compare answers. Good education has its price, but it will also open doors for you!!
I blame the schools also.
Work at home, big money, easy job. Yeah, right. Just like stuffing envelopes.
Shame on MT schools
Shame on these MT schools saying they can guarantee graduates $60,000 per year!! Of course some say up to, which is very subjective, though very misleading. They ought to let people trying to get into this business know that unless they are fortunate enough to find the right fit, they are in for a bumpy ride.
these MT schools only care about the sm
money they can get and that is the bottom line.
On the other hand, there have been plenty of MTs on this board who have spoken against these MT schools and their advertising practices. We have said that this is no field to get into if you just want to work at home etc and that no school for four months, six months whatever was going to be enough to get into the field and that it takes years and years of working to even be qualified to work at home alone. But you know what? Everytime somebody talks against the schools and the fact that this profession is going down the tubes because of the attitude of wanting to work at home and make lots of money, we get blasted by other posters with rude and nasty posts.
Many of us have warned folks who wanted to go to these schools, not to do it and folks won't listen. They pay their money and just as you describe, they get out of school and still can't do the job.
Im glad somebody else is saying what the real deal is with these schools and these advertisements because for myself, this is the last time I will ever mention it. Some folks will only learn by doing and wasting their money. They won't listen.
Allied Business Schools, Inc.
I have had no problems getting job offers. Right now I am working for a great lady that really respects her MTs. She just got a new account, so she is growing, which is a good thing. I can work whenever I want, literally. The only she asks is that I do at least 30 minutes of dictation a day for five days a week. Of course, I will do way more than that, but it is nice to know that if I need a break for a day or two then she won't mind.s
I wish you the best of luck!!!
There are 2 great on-line schools
that are so good their graduates are hired right away: Andrews and M-Tec.
Don't accept less than the best where your livelihood is concerned.
Here my schools requirements for an externship
I am enrolled at Kaplan University in the AS degree program for medical transcription
MR203: Medical Externship and Evaluation (3 Credits) |
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Course Description Successful completion of this course will require 90 hours of transcription experience at an approved health care setting. Students will be evaluated on the performance of expected competencies at the end of the course. The course requires a final presentation. The online version of MR203 requires each student to locate their own externship site and obtain approval by the clinical coordinator prior to beginning externship. |
Course Objective By the end of this course, you should be able to:
- Transcription of health care dictation to demonstrate accomplishment of the transcription program outcome (MRT-1).
- Prepararation of patient care documents to demonstrate accomplishment of the patient records outcome (MRT-2).
- Medical Transcription practice within the ethical guidelines, standards, regulations, and laws demonstrating accomplishment of the standards, laws, and ethics program outcome (MA-3).
- Application of learned foundational knowledge demonstrating accomplishment of the foundational knowledge program outcome (MA-4).
- Professional communication and conduct demonstrating accomplishment of the professionalism program outcome (MA-5).
I agree with you about the way substandard schools
operate, but I would call people who fell into their traps, 'suckers.'
I am convinced that they came into this profession with diligence and the honest wish to give their best, work hard. but were overwhelmed by what they were confronted as not well- and enough-trained newbies.
They were misinformed and taken advantage of by misrepresentation and false promises.
and they can afford to BUY TRANSCRIPTION SCHOOLS!!!
...and they didn't lower the cost for the HOSPITALS! They're just pocketing all the money they are making by RAPING US of our pay!!!!!
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!
Gee, ya think that's maybe why the original poster asked about SCHOOLS??
Amazing! Obviously brains are not too much of a requirement...Ya just had to get that dig in about how hard it is due to medical "language", yadda, yadda. Give it a break and say something we or the original poster DIDN'T know!
MQ will hire newbies from "approved schools", what are they? sm
I am considering going through a community college that has a 100 hour internship program at the end. I want to know if this will be enough to hire on as a trainee with them.
Is it just Career Step they approve of? Anyone know?
Has anyone else seen ads for MT schools that promise 40,000 yearly? This doesn't appear to be tru
with my experience, at least starting out anyway.
I know of 2 MTs from reputable schools who started w/o the 2 year exp. nm
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Yep, one of the "top 3 schools" has grads that will work for this.
On the forum of the MT school I graduated from, I see all the time new MTs taking jobs for 1-2 cpl for editing jobs. Right now there are posts of those willing to work for free just to get experience. It drives me crazy. They don't get that they are driving the rates down for everyone. Why would a company pay more when there are new grads beating down their door to work for 1-2 cents per line. They don't get that they are ruining the profession they have just worked so hard to get into.
They changed their name ... check the AAMT list of schools
it shows it as being changed
It's a myth perpetuated by the students and staff at those schools. nm
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A lot? You've got to be kidding. Name them. "Big schools" still don't equal experience.
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as you can see, no one else is telling theirs either-sm
and they don't want anybody jumping on their bandwagon's either. They were very quick to mention who they had bad experiences with, but no one is telling who they are happy with, other than for the sarcastic MQ and Diskriter.
You just don't know - I'm telling you ..........
they'll hate it.
keep telling yourself that
over and over until you really believe it; say it like a mantra. There is nothing wrong with talking about what is going on as this affects current MTs and could potentially affect many other MTs. I am willing to keep an open mind as well as it seems others who have posted are as well; however, one cannot just look at one side of the story. There are questionable things.
She might be telling it like it is but...
I am sure there is a much more polite way of saying it. I know I wouldnt appreciate be spoken to in that manner.
Always telling us at OSI they will do this
NM
? Why are you telling us this?
I mean, good luck. I just do not understand your attitude and why you are making this huge statement about your big decision to stay and telling us when you plan to work, etc.
Maybe you are directing this to someone in particular and I didn't catch it.
Thanks for telling me how to do this.
I do not have much experience doing zipped files. Anyway I will try what you said. Sounds easy enough. Again thank you.
Right. Just keep on telling yourself
Repeat it over and over again. I'm sure you can convince yourself with a little practice.
Why are they telling you they will be out
I would refer all of these to the supervisor. This is not part of your job.
But telling somebody to look for another job
is more or less avoiding to confront the issue all together, and throw out the bath with the child in it.
Telling you it was not a lie
Well, there is an old saying that if certain people's lips are moving, you know they are lying.....Just sayin'. If the shoe fits, wear it and if not, it plain old don't fit.
would you mind telling me (sm)
this Cindy-person's last name. You can E/M me if you want, in fact, I'd prefer it that way. I worked for a Psycho Maniac named Cindy before, and wonder if they're the same person!
gapeachxx@yahoo.com...thanks a bunch!
She's telling the truth about this one. It is
terrible, no work, system is out of order a few times a day, and they just hire more and more people when the accounts have no work on them.
Well, they are not telling the truth! sm
I was offered an incentive package to stay with them and that was on eScription! I turned it down and left anyway. Prefer working for Americans!
Not to flame but telling me I don't
Thank you for mentioning things in your latest post that you left out of your first. See how easily one can jump to conclusions?
For what it is worth, I ran my own daycare for 10 years. I know EXACTLY what it is like to be the one responsible for every aspect of running a business day in and day out, when people don't show up or go to lunch and don't come back, having to meet laws from varies state agencies that are contrary to one another and smile the whole time. I've started work at 5 in the morning and finished at 9 at night (while trying to raise my own two young children). I know what it is like to cook for 95 kids EVERY day for a year because I couldn't keep good help. I know that until I converted all my private investment into a nonprofit organization, I could not achieve the success with my business that I was able to do. Imagine working for 10 years and having NOTHING left of it but a good reputation, no retirement plan, no assests, nada, because the effects you left on people and the benefits you offered were worth all of it. Would you be willing to do that? Not many would, I bet.
When you want to yell at me some more and show your true colors, you will turn away the good MTs whom you were trying to entice in your original post. See how easy it was to fly off the handle.
I do wish your business well, but I stand by what I said. I save you money by working from home and doing what I do. Every year I get devalued by the onslaught of forces I cannot control. If you want to toot your own horn, I would suggest a marketing consultation next time.
Peace.
Are you telling me that they only have the one account?
xx
Good for you for telling it like it is (sm)
I work for a smaller MT company who, like the employer of the previous poster, seems to want to keep their MTs in the dark about what's going on behind the scenes. However, reading between the lines and according to the grapevine our company recently was apparently outsourcing some work to the Philippines, and apparently, when the hospital found out, they were livid! The MTs were also upset, as this was one of our best accounts, the kind that make the other slog work worthwhile - and they handed it over to the Philippines...well, recently, we all of a sudden had a whole lot of this account's work available once again - my guess is, no more Philippines! I hope this means the hospital issued an ultimatum - and this means they appreciate our work and understand that you get what you pay for.
moving on is telling it like it is
I too have had horrible experiences. I think we both were previously working for the same company, a company highly recommended on this board. It was a huge disappointment as far as lines. It was impossible, too many foreign dictators and something funny going on with the line count. You wrote me and told me about Keystrokes. As well, I read your many posts about KS. I took a chance with your advice and accepted a job with them. You were speaking the truth and not just another recruiter. Thank you so much for recommending them and posting your experience with them:)
You are actually in the "I'm telling" mood?
You're going to tell? What do they care? They should know where they stand on this board... Why do you think they keep hiring from here?
I would say Monday should be the telling SM
day. If there is no pay and no indication of when you'll be paid, I'd get out of there FAST and also post the name of the company. They've had plenty of time to correct their supposed **error*** cough...with the payroll company.
They can't sue you for telling the truth...nm
nm
Would you mind telling me....
where you've gone. I, too, work for MQ as a flex PT, but would LOVE to get out. I used to be a SE too! All these changes are making me nuts, but I've been with them for 13 years now, and I'm afraid to make that move. I have 4 kids at home, and would love to have that scheduling flexibility! Feel free to email me if you want! Thanks for your help!
keep telling yourself that while I tell you a story
Main job $23/h plus incentive (which is very easy to make). Full benes. 20 weeks PTO/yr.
Second job REAL IC 11 cpl including headers/spaces.
So go ahead and laugh your way to the bank while I strut down to the credit union, which by the way, is better than a bank LOL
I don't mind telling you
My clients tell me they receive bids for anywhere between 12 and 16 cpl. I won't say what I charge but that is what is out there.
Thank you for telling this experience.
I've worked for companies before where the powers that be have no transcription experience and it wasn't a great experience. With this information I will take them off my list of possibilities. If a long time employee shared all of this I think the writing was on the wall.
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