Is it lines = character count/65 maybe?
Posted By: me on 2009-05-26
In Reply to: SoftScript's Character Line - none
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Has anyone done a character count/65? Just cause
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Would you ever work for 7 cpl - 65 character count
with 17+ years of experience? Maybe as a second job? Or no way, not worth it? Easy work and easy dictator :)
It is actually the total character count divided by 65 sm
not the word count. To answer your question, yes, the total character count with spaces divided 65 should equal any line counting program, provided you are paid on a 65 character line count with spaces and headers and footers are not included.
Counting in Word does not include headers or footers.
My counts match those in Word.
It will also depend on how your company/facility manipulates the system. It seems the same program will count lines differently depending on the facility or company. It is not the program - it is the facility or company.
Been at this 25 years and investigated into many counting problems with various programs. When I realize my counts are off, I leave. There really is no way of knowing until you actually start working on that specific platform. Monitor your counts daily for a few days and see if they are off. Most likely, if they are, it will not change.
ChartNet is a 70 or 75 character line count. Check into it. nm
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65 character lines with spaces
I don't think so. You're going to do a lot of typing to get all those lines. They don't pay spaces, no way!
Gross or character lines
In word, under properties they do not count headers that occur on every page. You have to add that in by the numer of pages, i.e. if you are doing a long psych report that is 9 to 15 pages and have a headed on every page. I could be wrong and if so let me know. I just did a count with a header and those lines were not counted. But if you are doing a cpl you can count characters with and without spaces. But again in word they do not count extra characters for capitalization, bold, underline, etc where as in line counting program, Sylcount, they do. So will you be using your program or theirs to count lines? Gross or per 65 cpl.
*readable character lines*
Hey, y'all. Is this subterfuge-speak for we don't pay for spaces? (Because one does not *read* spaces?)
If so, should I opt out?
*readable character lines*
Hey, y'all. Is this subterfuge-speak for we don't pay for spaces? (Because one does not *read* spaces?)
If so, should I opt out?
Gross lines versus 65 character
What is 7 or 8 cpl gross equivalent to in 65 character
Companies that pay for actual lines, not divided by character?
Does anyone know what companies pay for actual lines and not by characters per line?
Sometimes a gross line can equate to more than 65 counted character lines
I know one company whose lines are in very tiny font with very wide margins. The line length for those gross lines is 104-120 characters. This is almost double a 65 counted character line.
You can make a comparison of which is better by making a copy of your report (use cut/paste or lift into an expander, then copy into blank document) and run it thru a line count program set at 65.
Your definition of gross line is correct, but your equating it to pay is only good if the line length for gross lines is maximum 65 characters. MTSOs are learning how to make this gross line sound wonderful but in reality are robbing you blind.
7-8 gross is great. That is equivalent to 10-12 65 character lines, as a gross
line is about 35% lower than a 65 character line. Will you share who is paying this>
How does one count one's lines on DQS to make sure one's
can DQS be set up to count gross lines? nm
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If I could count lines, I would know if they were cheating
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Do 1 space and count lines and then do 2
It really doesn't affect the line count that much to do the 1 space after punctuation. I agree 100% that they are trying to whittle our wages away wherever, but I don't think this particular issue is a big one. I get virtually the same lines whether 1 space or 2 after sentences. I'm more concerned about the virtual black line that would eliminate ALL spaces like AAMT (or whatever it's called now) is pushing than just a few spaces per report. This is why it's so important for all MTs to know and understand every crazy line-count method out there!
Depends on how you count lines
If you count the lines via Extext software, right away. If you use ichart it can take up to 1 hour, it says on the instructions. Depends how your company counts ExText software lines. Hope this helps.
Yes, but do you have an accurate way to count those lines? Has TT fixed
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You best not count those chickens (lines) before they hatch. You may end up editing
You may be backing up on saying you can do 2400 in an 8 hour day.
A steady diet of bad dictation I can bet won't afford you 2400 lines in an 8 hour day.
Think twice about Transcend. Overhire and not so great lines count
As far as the hospital job goes, that would be a better,stable choice. I know in our area the clerks obviously make less than the MTs, but it is way above minimum wage, not to mention you get shift/weekend/holiday differential. Find a company is this business that does that. NONE, at least that I have found. Best wishes on your job search.
You know, I never actually counted my lines myself, I just always figured my company's line count
Boy was I wrong! I just went through and totaled all of my lines, then compared them to the line counter, and guess what! It's wrong! Can you guess who I work for? SOFTSCRIPT!!! 
Puleeze! I heard that monthly for 2 years. I will believe it when I can count lines on it. nm
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Medware's IT dept. obviously doesn't work weekends.No lines count for 2 days. nm
not surprised
Is this a live count of lines paid for or same as CTRL I that we do not get paid for ?? nm
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All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
In my Extext experience count was about 10% less than the Word count. nm
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It means to double check what THEY say your count it. Count
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The Above is for a 65-character line.
Sorry...I left that part out. Thanks.
8.5 for 70 character line
That is what I thought. The guy I talked to said this was the same as 9 cents per 65 character line or a little more.
It is not 65 character line. It probably would come out to 75-
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They also pay on a 55 character line rather than 65.
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When they say 62 character line or sm
68 character line, or 55 or 65. What is better for the MT? I am dense. Thanks.
55-character line
Is a program that measures on a 55-character line good or bad? Don't they generally do 65-character? I know this is dumb, but which is better?
How can they sue for "defamation of character", when
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If it is a 65 character line and being
counted by VBC, then soneone on another post said you cpl should go up 2 cents to equal out the difference in pay.
Are you aware of how they count your time?.. or don't count it i should say
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what is a 65 character-defined line?
what is a 65 character defined line?
Question, what does 65 character B/W line mean? I'm not sure what the B/W is??(nm)
Hmm, exactly what is a 65-character gross line?
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0.09 per 65-character IC status with schedule.....nm
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But if they are saying per character are they including spaces?
I'd ask if a space = a character. ;)
starting at .001575 per character???
What does that mean? So what's that translated into lines and isn't this strange to pay per character?
TIA.
37-character line without spaces much better...SM
Hi! I just checked an OP note I did yesterday. Characters with spaces was 5935. I get paid on a 65-character line with spaces, so that came out to 91.3 lines.
Characters without spaces was 4999. So, if you divide that by 37, you get 135.1 lines.
In the first scenario, I would get paid $8.22.
In the second scenario, I would get paid $12.16. (If both pay the same per line...9 cents in this example).
So, you would definitely do better to accept the 37-character line withOUT spaces! :)
Chickadee
Visual black character perhaps
You might want to check to see if they have switched to no spaces and are paying the VBC method. That could account for such a drastic cut. It would not be surprising to me at all. I am always more than appalled when companies do this on their own without notification or at client request without feeling the need to inform the MTs. Do they think that we do not notice that we are working harder than previously for less?
SoftScript's Character Line
I am interested in SoftScript's pay rate.
I heard they pay by a 65 character line? What do they use as their words per line rate?
I am working for a company who uses 8 words per line and am curious as to how this would compare to SoftScript? Any information would be helpful!
Thanks!
Name of character from Rockford Files.
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Agree 100%, Fatcat - It's out of character
You're right about that, Fatcat. As I said, the silence on their part is deafening and that, in my experience, is totally out of character for the management at MDI-MD.
To me, the thing that really piques my concern is the fact that it's not just one account that has apparently dried up. You and I are on totally different accounts, and both of ours are without work. At first, I thought perhaps they had lost one of the accounts, but I doubt they would have lost two major accounts at the same time; that puts me back to square 1 in trying to figure out what's really going on and holding out hope for things to improve.
I also notice our posts are starting to read very similarly to the initial posts of our fellow MTs at the Q when their work started to inexplicably disappear, the confusion and uncertainty and hoping for the best.
At this point, I don't think I'll feel secure even if given a backup account. IMO, with things drying up, shuffling us to another account would just be taking work away from the MTs already on that account and would soon place that account into famine territory, too. If there's not enough work, there's just not enough work. I don't mind having one backup account, but I really don't care to have to juggle 3-4 accounts every shift with fingers crossed hoping to make my line count.
At this point, to coin an old expression, I am hoping for the best but proactively preparing for the worst.
Your character core is right on target.
Of course, we all know to worry when a company we work for starts employing people to spout this meaningless BS. Bast#rds.
GROSS LINE VERSUS 65 CHARACTER
I am wondering which is better. Is gross line better than 65 character line with spaces. Thanks
65-character is the way it is now. The clients are smarter and cheaper than sm
they used to be. Very few have weekly pay. I agree about QA rudeness.
9-10 cents per gross line! Where? Sign me up !!!
I'm jealous! Is it gross line or 65 character? I am also
on an ER account with EXText but I cannot get near that. Any tips to share? I love working at Keystrokes but would love to get those kind of lines even more!
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