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In 5 years, coding will be just like MT--sm

Posted By: well on 2006-07-08
In Reply to: Has anyone left MT to go to coding? sm - flower

rates dropping, offshoring and big services taking over.  Mark my words.


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Coding, VR?

If the trend continues to let all transcription go to India, what is left for us?  Is anyone paying more than 3-4 a line for reviewing voice recognition work?  Is coding on the way to India too or is this still an option for us who live in the U.S.? I am wondering if it is worthwhile to start taking coding classes now before I lose my job to India.  Can we even do coding from home?


 


Coding
Yes, coding could be the way to go,although not at home yet. I'm considering a course, they say MTs make good coders.
I want to go into coding too (sm)
but don't have the money now for school.  I've been in the biz 20+ years and it's unbelievable how the work has dried up.  Yet they keep hiring when other MTs have no work. 
coding

I was an inpatient coder for a year and I made more transcribing.  I worked for a large chain (that ended up in trouble with the feds) and we were constantly told to find better DRGs so they would get paid more....dig 'em up even if that wasn't the reason for admission.  I enjoyed my job otherwise, I did become nearsighted after a year probably because of reading the physician writing.


Even if you go to school and get certified now, the companies say they need 2 years.


 


Remote Coding
Does anyone have anything to say about the remote coding.
Coding certification

First I would encourage you that if you are serious about coding, do NOT go to a course that does not allow to test for NATIONAL certification.  There are only 2 organizations in the US that do national certification.  AAPC (the first) and AHIMA.  With AAPC there are numerous companies that offer their course.  The cost runs between $1200 and $1600 for a three month course of 8 hour classes plus your proctored exam and membership to AAPC, or you can do the self-study course for the same money (I chose to be in a classroom setting so I could have questions answered on the spot).  You can opt to take the course for hospital coding CPC-H (which few hospitals will recognize as official) or the doctor/outpatient based course - CPC, which is widely recognized.


I don't know the cost of AHIMA's testing but it is as intense as AAPC's but it is mostly taken by people who either already have AAPC certification or are already working in a medical coding setting.  Both organizations offer apprecentice programs if you are not already in a coding setting until you can clock some coding hours.  I think you need references to enter either program as to your character - remember, if you make a mistake the penalty could be monetory and/or a jail term.


Now, can you get a job and is the money worth it.  Most hospitals want AHIMA's inpatient certification and 1-2 years OTJ experience, unless they are hiring for their outpatient clinics and/or ER (which they will then accept the AAPC's CPC).  Most of these positions pay between $15 and $24/hr plus bennies.


It is very hard to get into the coding industry.  It's just like trying to get into MT without any experience, only harder.  I would network, join both organizations as a member and go religiously to the monthly meetings to network and learn.  Both certifications require a high number of CEU's to be earned each year.  It is easier to get into a physician's office setting as a CPC.  Most of these jobs pay $9 to $18/hr depending on geography, but again you'd have to be very, very good and have good references from certified mentors to help you get a job with no experience.


Most jobs are obtained by word of mouth.  If you are very good, you could skip working in a hospital or doctor's office and become a consultant and/or instructor without any working experience (more $$ for the instructor's certification).  It would be like working as an IC.  You would have to hustle to get clients and build a reputation.  I was lucky and got a job with a hospital in their outpatient clinic side at $19/hr with hospital bennies and had an offer with the people whose course I took to become an instructor and consultant for them even before I got the results from my test score (but I had prior coding experience).  My job was basically consulting, doing audits and giving feedback and education to doctors on how to maximize their reimbursement, how to document charts properly and be available for their coding questions.  I loved the respect I got from the doctors.  It was totally unlike what I get directly from doctors as an MT.  They are eager to learn, listen to what is being taught, are interactive, friendly and recognize that you are there to help them succeed.


If your MTSO is also adding a coding department to their company, that would be an easier way to get into coding as it could be done from home with access to electronic medical records.  There are a number of tools available to coders that help to electronically code and flag potential errors, hopefully your company would pay for all that because it can be quite expensive.


I tried to portray a clear and realistic picture with discouraging you.  It's a lot like going into MT without someone being realistic with you, so the fact that you asked is a good sign.


good luck,


d~


medical coding
Does anybody know about going into medical billing/coding. I'm looking into getting out of transcription, and I know of 1 national company that supposedly hires coders, but I don't want to spend the $$ for school and then have no work or a low paying job
Coding is being sent overseas as well
NM
Has anyone left MT to go to coding? sm

I have 16 years experience as an MT, but I am just tired of it.  I have completed a medical billing course and I am now working on  a coding course.  I am really enjoying the coding and it seems to come easy to me, which is a miracle :)  So, if anyone has switched, I would love your input.  Thanks!


They have coding and transcription
nm
coding at home sm
Would you care to share what state you are in?  I assume you do the coding via computer and have computer access to patient's records.  Do you code directly into the hospital system?  I only had exposure to coders back when they had no computers.    Do you have coding certification?  How many years experience do you have?  I want to get into coding and I would love to work at coding from home.  I've taken classes and really enjoy it and have done well, but am not certified and I heard its really hard to get into coding.  I do have lots of MT experience though, 33 years.  Thanks.
Coding Recognition Software
I see that Nuance is now pushing its coding recognition software. Maybe I should put off that AHIMA coding course. I can't wait until they come out with HIM Director Botware, CFO Botware, and CEO Botware.
Thanks for warning me, but this is the other company - no coding LOL. NM
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Augusta Coding nad Transcription
This company had a job posting on mtjobs.com several weeks ago - anyone else apply and actually hear anything back?  I've even sent a follow-up email and nothing.  Just wondering if I was the only one.
Augusta Coding and Transcription
Amen, brother ben. They are not cool. Do not confuse with AugustaMedicalTranscription.com which is a great Christian owned (2 people, Mike and Pam, friends), run this business.

Augusta Coding will screw an MT by charging for software, paying low and charging high. Beware beware. I did not and I did work there, but found making about 3.00 hr was not possible.
make better money coding...sm
I do earn more money coding, mainly because it is hourly pay (so no fluctuations like you get with line counts) and the value of the benefits. I do think there are coding jobs which are much less stressful than where I work. Actually, I think most of them are. Our facility is huge, actually has it's own little city, with 3 hospitals, one with a level 1 trauma center which is shared with a children's hospital, 150-some clinics, an eye institute, and a cancer center plus is a teaching facility so we do the coding for the college facilities. Most coding jobs in my area (midwest) are working from home. Our benefits include health, dental, life, disability and vision insurance, FSA and HSA accounts, tuition reimbursement, AHIMA membership paid, 403B match, 4.6 hours of earned vacation and 1.8 hours of sick time per pay period (2 weeks) so they're pretty good. I do know coders in other facilities around here who do not have the same stressful conditions which we have and who love their jobs. Much of it is due to size and our remote management. I used to work at a smaller hospital and really liked coding there. I left when my daughter became ill and needed me home. I ended up at the facility I am with now because they were one of the few places who did have home coding available at the time that i started. Now I just think I am too darned old to start over someplace else and give up my seniority, vacation accrual, etc., so I will stick it out until I can retire. So it's my own fault I'm miserable 'cuz I don't make the change! If you go into coding, I hope you get to be one of the people who does love it and would venture a guess you would not find the stress level to be what ours is unless you work for one of the largest of facilities.
Augusta Coding and Transcription

Watch out for this company.  They have a horrible platform they use and are extremely rude in QA (main gal running the company).  Please beware, as life is too short to live like this. 


What about medical coding? Is that a lucrative..sm
and somewhat secure field to consider?  I am doing a lot of re-thinking after this MDI-Transcend stunner and know that being an MT today is nothing like it was 30 years ago when I first started my career.  Does anyone have any opinions or knowledge on medical coding and if that is a viable alternative to MTing?  Thanks.
OOPS! Supposed to be Coding and Transcription
nm
Anyone ever hear of Augusta Coding and Transcription in SM
Georgia? Any comments. There are 2 in Georgia. Thanks in advance.
Make sure it is not Augusta Coding and Medical Transcription....
that company is run by 2 psychos, Ann and Stella...it certainly is not Christian either, and you will have to pay their license fee to use their software. In other words, you pay them to work for them.
is this ACTI (augusta coding transcription inc) in Evans, GA or
Augusta Medical Transcription in Augusta, GA? I'm trying to find out which company is better. I want to work in ChartScript. Thanks!
Part & Full Time Data Entry & Document Coding Position - Sara McDaniel - HR Administrator
This company has ads on other web sites. You have to pay them $55 to do a background check up front. Guess what? If you don't get hired, they've got your $55. Don't know if it's legit - just posting facts.
I talked to them today. They want 3 years in a hospital or 5 years combination sm
hospital and at home or clinic and at home. For radiology, they want 3 years full time radiology. I thought they were very nice and I have a few friends that work for them and are happy. The pay seems average to high for what I am seeing now. I think they are 0.08 per line or 1.08 for radiology. Beats what I will have with the new MQ program.
Honda is 11 years old, 190,000 miles . Toyota was 15 years old and 279,000 superb
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I worked on site for many years. I've been doing this for 10 years... sm
I've worked on site, at home, for small MTSOs, for nationals, for hospitals. I've been paid per line, per minute, and per hour. I've been an MT and a QA. I have ALWAYS worked weekends and ALWAYS worked nights for the shift differential because MTs can't survive on 6 or 7 cents a line. At least I can't and I type 105 wpm.

I've BEEN dedicated from day 1, sister, so you are barking up the wrong tree.
15,000 lines per pay period. 8 years with KS, 6 years on this account! nm
Not going anywhere else!
30 years - this WAS my career. The last few years you guys have ruined it.
You work 9-5? Big deal. I work more than you do. I bet I work harder too. Treat US with respect, lady!

Don't talk to us like that and don't expect us to kiss your feet. Kiss ours for a change!
See if you'll be producing more after 30 years of MT'ing and at 50+ years old.
I don't think so. My income increased every year also, until I reached age 50 and 30 years of MT'g, been downhill ever since.
It wasn't tough 5 years ago. Or 10 years ago, yet
How to you spell
G-R-E-E-D ???

All the shifty, dishonest, greedy pigs in this country belong in JAIL.
Did MTfor 10 years; QA for 2 years and now
doing editing of speech/voice recognition.  I find all three to be very different.  MT you start with a blank page or a template, QA you have the whole document and you need to give a good quick read and check for correct name, MRN, formatting, and all blanks, etc., and if you know the MT you do not necessarily need to give the whole document voice to typed - editing is a whole 'nother thing.  From what I have seen so far - you have a document and you cannot count on anything being correct - you need to change almost everything in some cases - which is more difficult than a blank sheet as there is a lot of deleting and it is confusing.  It can be helpful because some of the medical words are in there and some of the drugs can be correct - and although I have found easier on the wrists some days - still very, very difficult.  You must match exactly voice to type because you cannot count on anything to be correct - JMHO
I think it just boils down to years and years of
If you kick a dog often enough, it's going to not only turn on you, but other dogs as well. Even though I made more money as an in-house MT, our managers were the worst. All greedy, self-serving women who lied, cheated, and made their way up the management ladder by stepping on those of us who worked under them. They created hostility, distrust and ill will in the office by pitting MT against MT (I suppose they figured it would keep the MT's from turning on THEM!), and the suspicion it bred created a hostile workplace like no other. I finally couldn't take it anymore and quit to work at home, for less than half the money. I'm lucky - I have an employer that at least treats me well, even though the pay stinks. But from what I've read here, that isn't the norm at all. So it's little wonder so many at-home MT's are ready to chew someone's head off. They're tired of being lied-to, cheated on line counts, disrespected, and at the same time expected to produce more and more work, with little to no mistakes. So it's little wonder we're all a mite cranky.
Some of us have been at MDI for years and years. Why should we have to start all the way at the bot
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2 years ago
I worked as a statutory employee about 2 years ago and quit after about 6 months or so because I got a better offer. The people were nice but I ran out of work a lot. Also they still have me on their mailing list as a stat employee. Obviously they still don't realize that I haven't worked there in almost 2 years!
4-1/2 years for me too nm
 
9 years.
Nmsg
Over 7 years, OTI
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18 years.
I have no idea what is happening for others or new plans or anything.

I've just gotten started. I didn't ask about any of that -- I just know what I was given.
Been with them 8 years
9 cents a line - NO RAISE
A little over 3 years. (NM)
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been with MQ for eight years and
never heard of such a thing, is this new/old/specific to your office ????
Doing this for 20 years
I had one hospital in Florida I worked for and they started out at 15.00 per hour, but the more you typed, the more you made. Their line counts though were based on 55 characters with spaces so it was very easy. If you typed 2000 lines per day, you got 20.00 per hour, and then for any after that they paid 8 cpl bonus, so the average monthly bonus was 1500.00. I made 65,000 for the first 9 months I worked there. There are still hospitals paying 12-21.00 for in-house work. In-house would be really the best way to make any money. I went to working at home because of illness. I made last year just under 50,000 but it nearly killed me because it was 7-days a week and up to 18 hour days. Now, I have seen ads for LPNs (1 year of study) making 15-20 per hour, and in most cases the admissions employees in hospitals make more than we do transcribing. Salaries for at home people have gone way way down since I started working at home in 2000. I've seen ads for 6 cpl for people with over 10 years experience and as long as people continue to take those jobs, the other companies won't pay us more either. Used to be we got overtime as well, but now they are going to lines per week basis and will let you work extra, but with no change in the line rate. It's really rather sad how the trend has been.
I get 10 cpl but have known them for years
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About 4 years ago...
problems getting paid. Not sure if things have changed since then
I have been with OSi for just under 2 years

 


OSi isn't the most popular national around, which is basically why I just keep my opinions to myself, but . . .


I have a very simple account (lots of normals) as my main account.  While it isn't really challenging, even at 7.6 cpl as statutory I make plenty of money.  I have run out of work on my main account a number of times, but I have 2 backup accounts.


I am never hassled by QA or my coordinator.  I pretty much work when I want, have no line requirements or day or time issues to deal with. 


I have been very happy there.  There are bonuses at least monthly, and that adds to bottom line.


Go for it. 


IC MT with 8 years exp.
I have been working an account for the local ER for about a year now at 12 per line.  Now they have over-hired in house, and I am only called when they get behind.  I am looking for part-time or p.r.n. work that will either pay this or at least get pretty close.  Any ideas? 
YES for 6 years now.
My dear friend, if a person is mad, they can express themselves on whatever grammar they want to express themselves. Since there are rules and regulations in this forum i am not using any foul words to hit these very evil people. You can rant whatever you want but the things in my Post is always the truth.
Wow, 14 years. They must be doing something right! NM
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I also have been doing this for 25 years and all

Accounts Payable.  All my accounts are large teaching hospitals.  Maybe a small hospital would work with you, but a large teaching hospital doesn't have time to mess with that.  It doesn't matter if you tack on a charge for paying later than your invoices says, or whether you offer a discount for paying early, they STILL pay on their own schedule.  Which is fine - I know how it works.  I just go ahead and make my invoices net 30 days because I know that's how they pay anyway.


Now a doctor's office - that's a different situation and yes, they will be more accommodating.  But I prefer acute care myself, and I prefer a teaching hospital, not someplace that does appendectomies and delivers babies and that's about it. 


18+ years
she probably thought you might get her preferred job.
OTJ - 19 years. nm