I think you need to know recruiters don't always give honest answers, either.
Posted By: Hard lesson learned. nm on 2008-07-22
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Any tips on handling recruiters who may not be honest?
I am just getting a weird feeling from a recruiter. The recruiter told me three different starting rates of pay and asked me to tell her what she quoted two days ago. I asked what percentage of MTs stay with them for a year. She avoided the question. The recruiter also could not explain the pay scale. Are recruiters required to be honest? I find it hard to believe that she was being dishonest. Maybe I am paranoid. Do they generally care about the company they work for, or their job is done once they hire the MT?
Only honest answers please
Was recently left go due to qualitly assurance issues.
I need the honest answers please, to be sure I am cut out for this position.
I did have another MT (good friend who also works from home) go over my work and she could find no major problems: a semicolon here, a comma there etc. I save my work for IT purposes.
I need the honest answers please, to be sure I am cut out for this position. Has anyone else ever been left go? I do know the company is increasing outsourcing on a daily basis and I am not sure if this may have be a factor.
Thanks!
I need answers from a fellow MT who will be honest
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VR versus MT, looking for honest answers
Those of you who purport to absolutely adore VR, I have a few questions.
1) When you're editing a report, do you correct every mistake you see - punctuation, medical words, homonyms, grammar, formatting - the whole shebang? Or do you just clean it up a bit and move on, perhaps just fixing medical words, taking out patient names from the body of the report, etc?
2) Does your VR program do anywhere close to a 98% QA standard before editing? If I were to do a QA review on a VR report, honestly, the VR program I'm using would score in the 70% range, if that. The VR program would certainly never be hired by any reputable company I know of!!!!
I should point out that I was very optimistic about VR before I was trained on it. Even after I was trained on it, I kept an open mind that sometime during the first 30 days of training pay on it that *it* would somehow *click* and I would be able to produce 150% or more of the lines that I would have produced doing straight transcription. My straight transcription rate is usually around 200 LPH, so I would need to edit around 335 LPH to break even. NOT A CHANCE! I can't bring myself to put out slop, and it just takes too much time to edit VR's crap. If I can't make a living doing it, I will find something else to do!
I have been trying to find honest answers myself.
I have been looking into becoming a pharmacy tech. I Googled what the salary was and I get a range anywhere from $15K to $40K a year. I didn't think it was accurate so I thought for kicks what the MT payscale was. I got the starting pay was like $27k to $35k and up to $40k. The whole 10 years I have been an MT, I made $30K at the peak. I cannot even make 15K anymore. I have talked to company after company after company and the best I could find was 0.085 cpl. I looked into an in-house job and they offered $11.50 an hour for 10 years experience.
The other thing that web site said is that MT is a fast growing profession and the demand is rising. Well, I have lost my job due to technology and I know several other people that have lost their jobs to either technology or outsourcing, so I am not buying.
I am thinking about renewing my certification in nurses aide to have something else to fall back on until I can find something else. CNA is hard work for the low pay as well but It will introduce me to other health professionals and hopefully I can find my way again.
I worked for Spheris for quite a while. Honest answers inside. sm
Their rate of pay is pretty average, compared to other companies. They way they count their lines is fair and honest, no matter what you might hear from others. Depending on who your supervisor is, the schedules are somewhat flexible. Some supervisors are pretty lenient with the schedule, and others are very rigid. Overall, the people there are pretty nice. If you're just basically looking for a company where you can go in, get your lines done, and walk away, they're probably a good fit for you.
But there are definitely bad points, also. There's not much in the way of feeling like part of a team. You pretty much feel like just another number to them. If don't give them what they want in terms of lines or overtime or whatever, you'll definitely hear about it. They love to ask for you to work extra or switch your shift to accommodate them, but they don't generally feel like paying back the favor. They're famous for turning down PTO requests for no particular reason, no matter the reason for the request. The recruiter will promise you there's plenty of opportunities for advancement, but really there aren't. I've known gals who have worked their butts off for them for years and still haven't gotten anywhere. The only way to get a raise is to move up in levels of difficulty, and the levels that pay the most per line are the accounts that have tons of ESL's and lots of very difficult report types, with sometimes pages of really crazy account instructions that have to be followed.
In my opinion, if you go with Spheris, you'll make the most money if you take on a medium-level account, probably with more clinic work, where there aren't so many ESL's and not so many crazy instructions, because if you can crank out the reports at 6 or 7 cents a line, you'll make more money than struggling thru accounts that pay 9 cents a line but are terrible to type.
Gosh you TT recruiters never give up do you?
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Don't give up or get frustrated, many times it takes a while for the recruiters....sm
to get back to you, so believe in yourself, sounds like you have excellent skills, there are a lot of people scrambling for jobs, so lots of paperwork, interviews, etc. And there may be a lot of MTs, but many do not have the years or the broad base of experience, so hang in there, sometimes you get four or five replies/offers all at once!!! Take Care!
Give a really honest answer here
What amount do you think per week is a living wage? Don’t want by day, not hourly, but a weekly amount.
Can you give me the names of the companies here that were not honest?
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I start tomorrow, I will give my honest ...
take on things. I will let you know how it compares to other companies I have worked for.
I'll give you an honest answer
I've had many, many years experience in all specialties and doing all work types, as well as radiology, pathology and autopsies. When I went to work for TT in 2003 the best the recruiter could give me was 8.5 cpl despite the fact that she knew me and knew my work. When I retired I had the occasion to be talking to someone I had worked for some 15 years ago. He also knew my work and my production. He offered me 10.5 cpl which he said was the top out pay for their MTs. He said the usual starting pay was 8.5 for experienced MTs. I didn't take the job because I wanted to stay retired. When I left MQ I was making 11.5 cpl plus bonuses. It had become unbearable when the MT supervisor quit and her replacement was a control freak. I don't know the person who said they had been offered 9 or 10 cpl but I think if he/she was offered that amount, there were other factors in play so don't feel bad. I should think that while CNAs do hard work for low pay, you would be better off. MT was good to me but it is not a career I would choose these days.
I'll give you an honest answer
I've had many, many years experience in all specialties and doing all work types, as well as radiology, pathology and autopsies. When I went to work for TT in 2003 the best the recruiter could give me was 8.5 cpl despite the fact that she knew me and knew my work. When I retired I had the occasion to be talking to someone I had worked for some 15 years ago. He also knew my work and my production. He offered me 10.5 cpl which he said was the top out pay for their MTs. He said the usual starting pay was 8.5 for experienced MTs. I didn't take the job because I wanted to stay retired. When I left MQ I was making 11.5 cpl plus bonuses. It had become unbearable when the MT supervisor quit and her replacement was a control freak. I don't know the person who said they had been offered 9 or 10 cpl but I think if he/she was offered that amount, there were other factors in play so don't feel bad. I should think that while CNAs do hard work for low pay, you would be better off. MT was good to me but it is not a career I would choose these days.
that's too bad..maybe it's the recruiters accusing others of being recruiters...
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And that would be an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. LOL.
Typical transcriptionst. :)
"warned" by someone who won't give facts or sign her name. Give me a break! nm
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Nationals give at least a week to learn program. Give
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Now the recruiters have gotten
Take it to the job seekers board and post away. I don't believe you are a happy MT. It sounds like you want to recruit some happy MTs.
Those recruiters will say anything SM
to keep you talking to them. Come back after you've spoken with the supervisor because I am willing to bet they aren't going to be flexible other than 30 minutes either way on a shift and definitely no 12-hour window.
Think what you wish? I know several recruiters
and they make much more than $35000.
MTs for recruiters
Maybe instead of overworking the recruiters, those of us who want jobs should be hired as recruiters, MTs and QA people. At least we would know what NOT to do!!
MT RECRUITERS, INC.
Anyone know anything about these people?
What's up with TT recruiters?
I emailed a resume with an immediate response. Emailed back with question and then received a reply but now that I have emailed back, nothing for days and days. Makes me wonder.......
was it one of those RECRUITERS? lol
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The recruiters for SS are just as bad!
All around smarmy situation here, worse than anything I've ever seen. And I've been in this biz a long time...
I loved when they sent around the memo to nominate them for MTSO of the year.  Were they serious or just rubbing in their nastiness?
Exactly! Get rid of the recruiters, the
secretaries to the secretaries, the assitants to the assistant manager/supervisor, etc., most of the human resources personnel, even some of the so-called techs who don't know as much about computers as I do! Trim the fat in other places besides the ones who are actually producing the document which earns the company money! Why cut the ones generate actual REVENUE rather than the office fluff & executive-type positions?
They used to give out $25 Amex cheques -- give them time. :-) nm
Recruiters and their Styles
It seems the more telephone interviews I go through the stranger they become. You really have to wonder how a lot of so-called MT recruiters ever got hired to recruit. Where on this planet did these companies dig them up from?!!! Sometimes you are asked the strangest questions. It is usually like they don't even have your resume in front of them, never saw your test results, etc. Ask them questions and try to get straight answers...What a nightmare...Any funny stories to tell???
I think the job of recruiters is to get people to
work for the company. If you are qualified and past testing they want you. Some recruiters get paid a bonus for each hire, others just need to have new hires to show they are doing their job. I have had dealings with one recruiter who told me what a wonderful account they wanted me to work on, that people on it just loved it and there was rarely an opening so I should count my blessings. I talked to the team leader and she told me about the account and how hard it was and that they couldn't keep MTs on it. I had worked on that account at a different company and I knew for a fact how hard it was. Fortunately for me the team leader was honest, because had I taken the job based on the recruiter I would have quit the next day.
I think a recruiter should be as honest as they can be because it costs money to hire and train and if the MT isn't going to stay because what she was told and what IS was to different things it doesn't look good. I have had recruiters who are not/have never been MTs and they haven't a clue what you are talking about half the time.
I have adopted Oprah's advice - doubt means don't. If I don't have a good feeling about a company I won't take the job.
Have you asked their recruiters? -nm
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Clique/recruiters
Maybe it is one recruiter who works for several companies. A clique of one!
There are recruiters who work for more than sm
one company and they could play an obstacle game with an applicant who refused an offer from one company and applied to the other. People can be fickle and mean.
I see some QA/MT folks do become recruiters from
thread below. Does anyone know how to break into this? I believe I would be very good at this and I don't believe I have ever seen any ads for recruiters.
If I have never seen any ads, how do some of the recruiters who have been/are MTs/QA manage to find the positions that they do in order to allow them to change companies when some of us have never seen an ad to allow us to even enter that end of the field?
I would love to know because I think it would be very interesting.
Would you recommend just to start emailing all companies or calling them, or do you think it would be a waste of time?
Dear Recruiters: I would like to sm
know why you don't state in your job ad what kind of internet connection is needed. Mainly, I would like to know if satellite is acceptable so I know whether or not to even pursue it. Some do say so, but many do not. I really just wonder why. It wastes the time of the recruiter with useless email questions and the MT's time trying to find out.
Recruiters: Thank you for sharing sm
I am really embarrassed for those people, but I am also having a good laugh. I bet you all really need to vent. Do you have a network of recruiters where you can go? I am glad to have a glimpse of your world. Now I know why some of those ads are in caps - YOU MUST KNOW HOW TO DO THIS OR DO NOT APPLY! Honestly, they sound hostile, and I skip by them, but at least now I know why.
aren't we ALL recruiters for the
company we work for. Obviously we like where we work since we are employed there....and don't we all then recruit others who are in the job market....
I think most recruiters are full of HOT AIR, and -
during the recruiting/testing/hiring process, they promise a heckuva lot more than the company ever actually delivers. There are already too many 'suits' lurking on this board, as it is.
More Ditsy recruiters
A few weeks ago a recruiter from a company whose initials are SGS called me. She was not ditzy, just had no knowledge of business etiquette at all. I thought to myself that if it was this much of a pain to deal with them in a telephone conversation, what would it be like to work for them? I think a lot of these companies do not realize that the people they put on the phone are often the only chance they will get to make a good impression. This woman needed to go to charm school.
Actually, all the MTSO recruiters have been sm
at multiple companies over their careers, I don't think she is the only one. I remember there was a Gary at Medscribe in Jacksonville who ended up at 3 other services over the years.
I'm not generalizing, but some of the MTSOs and recruiters
I've dealt with this past week are the most condescending, rude, obnoxious people I've ever "met"!!!! Most of them aren't, mind you, but I've had a run of bad apples recently. Most of them are very nice, personable, honest people. But lately, it's enough to make me want to get out of the business again. Just because a person is offering a job does not give them the right to be jerks. However, it's a good thing it came out now instead of later before I wasted my time or energy any further with them. Some of these people have such egos. They treat potential employees as peons or nuisances, so you can imagine what they treat their employees like. No wonder they're hiring again. And again. And again. I believe in treating my fellow humans with respect and dignity. There's no need to be rude or short-tempered, especially when YOU are the one that made the mistake. If it's stressing you out that much, get out of the business! Some people are just not management material. Please, proofread your ad to be sure you didn't misspell anything or accidentally cut off all the important details when you copied and pasted. Your professionalism, or lack of it, is glaringly apparent. Also, put down a wage range. After seeing my resume, do you honestly think I'd work for $.06-.07 per line? Remember, the person you tick off today with YOUR bad attitude may have been the friend from another board yesterday or a possible account referral tomorrow. I used to think highly of you. Now the truth comes out.
Please post your name so recruiters know who to NOT hire.
If you want a company who doesn't care about quality, you must be well aware already that you can't provide any.
Wal-Mart is hiring.
One of the recruiters just resigned; I don't know if I'd believe what you heard. nm
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I personally doubt most of the recruiters know each other.
It's my guess they don't know who each other is.
Recruiters changing jobs too. (sm)
One from MQ went to Precyse. Now one from JLG I see is at All Type. These are just 2 names I have noticed. Guess I have been spending too much time checking out other jobs.
And as easily as the recruiters move around SM
they also can remember all the difficult or nasty people they have had bad experience with at their old companies. What a person sows at one company, they may reap when they try to move to another.
LOL. And with whom? Only good MTs make that much, not recruiters.
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Do you want to be one? Write to the recruiters who posted
and maybe they will tell you. That kind of information could cost them their job if posted on a public board. Leave them alone.
Recruiters or mgmt should not be solicting
for employees on this particular board, it is for the MTs to share information about companies. I know this isn't an MT.
They are recruiters and get paid by the companies
they represent. They represent the same companies that post on the job boards. They don't get you more $$ or a better schedule. They only represent a couple of companies and are going to refer you to one of them, whether it is a good fit for you or not. If you decline a position you'll never hear from them again.
If you'll read the archives you'll find lots on them and all state about the same thing.
Because recruiters get paid to recruit....SM
Would prefer to hear some opinions of those that have possibly already been there and done that. Thanks for your input. :)
Didn't you ever think recruiters post these..
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