Home     Contact Us    
Main Board Job Seeker's Board Job Wanted Board Resume Bank Company Board Word Help Medquist New MTs Classifieds Offshore Concerns VR/Speech Recognition Tech Help Coding/Medical Billing
Gab Board Politics Comedy Stop Health Issues
ADVERTISEMENT




Serving Over 20,000 US Medical Transcriptionists

I never understood how MTSOs came up with not paying for spaces. sm

Posted By: Wally World here I come on 2009-05-26
In Reply to: Wasn't somebody asking about Probity?? NO SPACES PAID sm - .

You have to hit the spacebar just like anything else, and the document would be pretty darned hard to read without them.  I refuse to work for cheaterhead companies like that. Thanks for passing along the information.


Complete Discussion Below: marks the location of current message within thread

The messages you are viewing are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select the boards given in left menu


Other related messages found in our database

Think most MTSOs are paying about the same
I make 8 cents for straight and only 4 for VR. Before long the people here will really not be able to stay because the rates keep falling.
Paying for spaces?
Run from a company that does not pay for spaces. Your thumb gets a workout just like the rest of the fingers. My thumb is worth compensation! lol
At least they were upfront with u on not paying for spaces...
they told me mine included spaces and it doesn't!! RIDICULOUS!!
IF NOT PAYING FOR SPACES BEHIND YOUR BACK
nm
Companies not paying for spaces
Hi everyone:  I normally produce at least 1200 lines a day and working with a company that does not pay for spaces.  Wow!!! what a diff.  Very discourgaged at this point. 
VBC is code for not paying for spaces
Don't be deceived. VBC (virtual black character) is simply a new way of saying - no pay for hitting the spacebar between words.
perhaps not paying for spaces does not start until your
MTSOs contract is renewed with that particular VA hospital.
So is LeePerfect still paying for spaces, or just VBC?
x
But no longer paying for spaces IS a pay cut...?
If spaces previously being paid for are no longer being paid, that constitutes a pay cut; not in the sense of cents per line or cents per character, but nonetheless a cut in pay.

Your post totally confused me.
What company isn't paying spaces?
What Editscript company stopped paying for spaces?   Confused?
Not paying for spaces can be okay if the characters per line is shorter.
55 characters without spaces is roughly equivalent to 65 with spaces.
MEANT to type NOT paying for SPACES....TOO EARLY.NM
XXXXXXXXXXX
Old posts say improper line counting and not paying for spaces were SOME of the probs. nm
s
What is not understood is that is that OVER AND ABOVE
throughout the day.  And NO she never said that at all.  For goodness sakes, if she had answered that one question without cryptic I start here and do this and then do that and come back and do more when it is available.  That doesn't say if she worked more than 8 hours total or not.
She understood?
nm
I never understood why anyone would

pay a company to work for them.  Shouldn't it be the other way around?  There are tons of companies out there that don't require you to use their computer and who do not charge for the foot pedal, software, etc. 


I understood what you were saying. s/m
Very few things make me more angry than people who bend over backwards to not do what they don't want to do. I always say to cherrypickers: If *you* don't want to type a certain report what makes you think *I* want to do it? I know I'm flexible because whatever comes across my screen is what I've been hired to do. Reminds me of an op that I was privileged to get to do the other day, a quintuple bypass with the worst ESL I've heard in years. I think God Himself would have had a hard time understanding him. Obviously someone was HAPPY they didn't do it because the DT was way out of sequence. It took me exactly 1-1/2 hours to complete the sucker and when I was finished it looked like swiss cheese. I was at the end of my shift but when I heard it I wasn't about to sign on off and leave it for someone else. That being said, I do believe I can call myself flexible. For all I know Ms. Bend Over Backwards Happy may have been the one who skipped over it. And speaking of which...cherry pickers can cherry pick in so many ways that no company can do anything about it. I'd like to wring their necks right off one and all!!!!!
Understood - i'd go over her head. SM
I agree that different STMs manage their work differently but I'd sure talk to someone higher up. There's no reason for one MT to run out when others are inundated.
Not sure if you understood financially I am not able to
switch careers. Bless you if you have enough money to do that for yourself.

Luckily, I am not one of these people who does not have a good job, I do, but whatever the reasons, mainly greed in my opinion, I am losing a lot of benefits and money steadily.

if you want to blame the MTs that is fine but one thing I have never understood is managements lack of ability to well manage. when I was in management people were not qualified never even got positions so not sure who is to blame really. why do all these (yours words) shoddy MTs get hired. Management is an art, and companies that let this go on just so they get their work typed - I do not think a lot of them really care how it gets done. Now I am speaking of the bigger companies. they pawn off any conscience they have on the MT making us solely responsible for caring for the patient when if anyone was really concerned about the patients healthcare would still be not for profit and not a business like it has turned into. But we MTs are the only ones expected to put out 99-100% work or get our pay reduced in many cases?

Gotta run right now but I could not disagree with you more really in some things.
I understood your point
I understand your point totally.  My point was that they actually promote those 10 days off without pay as a fringe benefit, when we have many more than 10 days off due to no work, or at least this has been my experience since October.  Add this to the constant hiring and it makes me sick.  I work with Editscript and they won't let me have a dictaphone account.  Unfortunately, I haven't found anything else yet.
I understood what the other poster was saying

Of course your management will know what type of report you get.  What the other poster was saying was that the end product would be the same if it was corrected by you through editing or corrected by you through erasing and straight typing.  Being familiar with VR editing, I can tell you that some reports are so bad that it is far less time consuming to completely erase the whole report and type it than it is to try to correct it.  This often happens when the physician or account is new to the VR platform.  It sounds like you have been very fortunate to be placed on a VR account that has been trained for a while now and so the reports generally come through as a breeze.  I've been on the other end where it was much easier/quicker to erase the VR report, enter my shortcut for a particular procedure and make 1 or 2 adjustments than it would have been to edit all the garbage that came through. 


yes, understood BUT it is the fact that sm
it is more -- it is that we are losing our jobs period. I don't blame the phillipines or India employees, that need to make a living just like us. It is when we become the minority.

Just like all the foreign born doctors are here (and bring there cultural attitudes with them, I might add. I believe in sharing and a better life, but we no longer even have a choice of American born, attitude, culture physicians,etc.very very few in my area which is
Victorville, Barstow, Apple Valley California. Just are none, not even half a dozen.

There was a thing on TV, I think it was PBS where in India, the Hollywood cartoonist (there was another word for it, I forget, anyway, their jobs are outsourced from Hollywood to India because here it would be 73 million and there it is 30 million to do the job.

There must be some solution where the U.S. employees are able to survive too.

Look what they expect us, very well versed, very skilled technician in the medical field, who must actually know more that the doctors (they get an inch to the left or the right and they need to call in a consultant, and we are offered, 2.5, 3,4, 5, 6, 7, 8 cents a lines.

Figure it out, say 1000 lines a day, that is 125 lines an hour TIMES THE ABOVE to get your hourly rate. This why the MTs are frustrated. This is WHY.
Not Seymour, but I understood the post.

Seymour wasn't making fun of ESLs.  Anyone working for Transcend would know that there are several accounts that are very heavy ESL.  Seems kind of [fill in adjective of choice] to post an ad for 1 account that is no ESL.  Most people aren't foolish enough to believe that the majority of applicants are going to apply for a heavy ESL account when there is one with no ESLs.  We're also not foolish enough to believe that if we get hired for the no ESL account we'll be on that account for long before running out of work.  The no ESL ad is a carrot.  I'm just figuring (from Seymour's post below about Gone with the Wind) that the Scarlett interpretation is because Transcend is in Atlanta. 


Oh, I understood your point perfectly.
Your statement was why call it a holiday if you don't get paid. To which, and I say again, it's a holiday whether YOU get paid or not, something you should have made a note of when you were hired.

And, BTW, individual beliefs and holidays and pay - and our attitudes to such - are all related to our human existence, existentially speaking.
KUDOS TT23,,,like you I understood what TT was doing
they explained rather clearly. It is a shame that this situation (which was only meant to help TT MTs) got so blown out of proportion. These are just rumors, bad rumors,, it amazes me how someone could totally miscontrue a very clear email!
I understood her to mean she was paid hourly plus
x
Exactly! Glad you understood (& I'm ex MQ myself so I knew it when I saw it too!) nm
x
Understood, but MTSO's cannot afford
to sue every poster on these boards because of their bad press, or whatever you want to call it.. defamation seems extreme, but I didn't read the comments made by the posters who are being sued. Most people here post general angst-y things about companies and if a judge were to read over the comments on this board, to get an overview of the climate and what is considered normal conversation and postings on these boards, they would probably see that this is a normal, everyday occurrence on message boards. Are they going to shut down every message board? Where would they start? As someone said, some of the angry, horrible postings in the political forums are much worse than anything said on the company forum. IMO. I believe that on these boards the MTSO's AND the MT's BOTH post angry things at times. No one is innocent here.
Oh, I understood the post precisely and still
the people letting VR just go thru in order to not be docked should be immediately terminated.
When I am renting, I am PAYING; when I'm working, THEY are paying ME. sm
Seems I should be running a credit check on the potential employer to see if THEY are responsible with their money, not the other way around.
I think most places pay for spaces. I work for TransTech and they pay for both spaces
as well as punctuation. I would never work for an MTSO that doesn't.
65 with spaces versus 65 without spaces; how to calculate?

Can someone tell me if you are getting 9 cents per 65-character line with spaces how much you would need to be paid per line to make the same amount per line if you are offered a ''65-character line without spaces?''  Thank you very much


So, if not spaces paid, what cpl would be comparable to at least 9 cpl w/spaces, do you know??
Thanks.
All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
54 without spaces = 65 with spaces if you do the math nm
nm
And what about the MTSOs that ...
yell and scream and write nasty emails just because they happen to be in a bad mood? And that goes for some QA people I can think of too. They don't know or care to be civil. I suppose the double standard would apply here though. Only the peasantry should be given psychiatric tests?!
MTSOs?
Is this the correct board for me to ask a question of other MTSOs? I'm new to these boards.  Thank you. D
MTSOs

Thank you!  I have been in business 12 years and, if you can believe it, I have never implemented any guidelines for acceptable error rates from my transcriptionists.  I have 19 transcriptionists and am finding that I need to do something to make them realize that they can no longer be lazy and just figure, oh, Dell will fix it.  We have reached a volume of work where I cannot fix lazy transcription problems any longer.  I am unsure how to go about this?  What are various ways to figure out the allowable error rate?


Thank you for all the help you can provide!  D.


MTSOs

I currently do offer a three tiered pay scale where the transcriptionists work their way up -- but I nevertheless find so many things they simply are not looking up or aren't sure of themselves and so will put question marks.


Do you know how the nationals figure the 98% accuracy? That's my real problem, I don't know how to go about figuring the 98% accuracy. 


Good luck on getting that big account!!  We have a large one starting on 02/01 and I'm nervous that with the sudden increase in volume I won't have the time to QA the way I have to now.  In my area it is hard finding really top notch transcriptionists -- the couple I am having trouble with have been with me awhile and I've tried and tried to train them but they lack self confidence and don't THINK about what they are typing -- hard to teach that THINKING skill!!!


Who are the top 5 MTSOs (most MT's)? nm
nm
To all MTSOs...sm

I am just curious.  I am sure it is very hard for MTSOs to find dependable, well-trained, honest people that work their required schedules as it is hard for dependable, honest, hardworking MTs to find companies that pay well, when they are supposed to, and have decent accounts and availability of work. 


My question is where are you?  I have close to 15+ years experience in multiple phases.  I have been burned by 2 telecommuting companies already.  I have been employed with this last company for over a year.  I thought they were great but over the past 5 months or so things have began to have turned sour.  Plus absolutely no benefits are offered.  I can handle not having any benefits as long as everything else is good. 


I have been skeptical to change jobs but things have just gotten to where I am completely dissatisfied. 


If any MTSOs are hiring, I would be happy to take any test, send resume, etc.  I just don't want to be burned anymore.  I love this profession but times have changed.  But like I said, it is hard for the MTSO as well as the MTs.


MTSOs
My opinion, I think part of the problem is with offshoring and the fact that offshored MTs can be paid less, therefore dropping US MTs pay. According to a lot of posts and my researching, MT pay has drastically dropped over the years and it's not getting better. Maybe if the MTSOs would post on what changes are happening on their end that makes them lower hire-on pay, that would help. From an MT standpoint, it seems that MTSOs are dropping MT pay but still lining their pockets, which is not a fair assessment, but that's the way some see it. We work hard and have to have a pretty much ongoing education to keep up with the medical terminology. I know some with 20+ years of experience are very frustrated that they cannot get a decent line pay. I don't know what MTSOs can do to make the situation better. Not all MTs are unhappy with their situation. I am very happy with the company I work with, although I do miss the statutory status and bonuses that I previously had at MQ, but times are changing and we have to adapt, and no I DON'T like it! Anyway, this is just my opinion.
MTSOs
I figure, it could get worse and for me, it actually has, so I try not to complain too much, but it does get frustrating and I try to look at it from both points of view, even though I'm not an MTSO and never actually owned one myself.
MTSOs
In the last 5 years that I have worked for an MTSO, I have seen a lot of changes in these companies and the way they treat their employees. When I first started working from home for one, the pay was good. They didn't bother you. They got your work to you...their were benefits. Now...with more experience and even certified, I get the run around too. Take a typing test with 20 minutes of dictation. Like being certified isn't good enough? My biggest concern is the fact they need to rethink how work-at-home employees should be treated. They tend to group us all together and try to treat us like we work in an office. It just isn't going to be the same. We obviously made this choice to work from home for our families. We give up a lot working from home, but they try to pretend that we should pay the same dues. The fact that they NEVER EVER CLOSE is a big one. Not to many companies out there make their employees work all hours, all days, all holidays with NO!!!!! reward for it. No thanks, nothing. They expect you to work on Christmas day in your home where your family is celebrating, perhaps 5 - 10 feet away and not participate?

For instance, I had to work last Christmas (and trust me, I've paid my dues on holidays). But it was a new job, so I had no choice. Sure I started late. I spent the first 2 hours celebrating with my family, opening presents, etc. As soon as that was over, I got on here and started working. I made my line count well before my shift was to end, but I got the mean e-mail about not working.

I think they need to get real. We work from home. We don't leave our problems at home when we go to work. Sure, you have to separate home from work while your working but I think they need to treat us with a little respect. Perhaps realize that we sacrifice for a reason instead of pretending that our reason doesn't exist.

Maybe they should take a clue from Google on how it treats its employees? Man I would just love to work there!

I feel so frustrated in this occupation lately, that I don't know what to do. I get the run around myself. Scheduling interviews and putting your whole day off for it and then the recruiter doesn't call!!! But e-mails saying sorry can we reschedule? NO, we can't.

I've seen and done it all in the last few years, offshoring, holidays, bad employers, horrible bosses. Its been a long time since I enjoyed my job.

Sorry if this runs on, but its late (since I have to work late shift to compete with the overseas people because they work while we sleep!) but I'm tired. Time to go to bed!

Here's hoping that something in the future happens and once again, our jobs are great and we brag to everyone about it!

This is what I believe about MTSOs

Most all of them are probably offshoring work secretly or not.  They overall don't respect their MTs.  They offer baloney rates.  They lie through their teeth.  They offer steak and deliver animal chow.  They punish all MTs supposedly because of the faults of a few MTs.  They keep tabs with countless instant messages and phone calls to keep their ignorant little children in check.  They are constantly running ads because they can't keep good MTs. 


How can any industry survive with this treatment?  I think almost every one of them is offshoring whether they admit it or not.  What other explanation could there be?  It can't be simply because the MTs put up with it.  There HAS to be something else behind it.  MTs as an industry don't put up with any more crap than any other type of employees.  BUT the MT industry has a way of offshoring work with nobody the wiser, unlike other industries and I think that is what is behind the whole sham. 


MTSOs

The way I see it (and probably others) is the reason many companies are struggling or not making it is because they did it to themselves.  Coming from a hospital setting, it's like comparing USA to Aruba, and I'm not talking scenery, here!


 


MTSOs

The way I see it (and probably others) is the reason many companies are struggling or not making it is because they did it to themselves.  Coming from a hospital setting, it's like comparing USA to Aruba, and I'm not talking scenery, here!


 


MTSOs
Shutting down the in-house hospital transcription department. Given the names of Alliance, Transcend, and Central Transcription Services. Not much of a choice. I need benefits. HELP!! Any information appreciated.
Those MTSOs
should spend the time making their company better instead of pretending it's so great.

You just wonder about people!
MTSOs and others
From what Im reading here on this board there are definitely some less desirable companies out there to work for.  There have been warnings many times on this board about these companies.  Its a vicious cycle it just keeps coming round and round, same company different month or week.  It could be that recruiters for these same companies keep posing as MTs and hooraying about what a great company it is, lots of fuzzies and smiley faces to reel people in.  Then, those very same people that were reeled in come back here to complain.  Heres a clue for ya, if the company is not talked about on this board its probably one of the rare ok places to work.  If you see too much bragging about a company then red flag- guess what, its a sneaking low down recruiter people!!!
if you ask me, MTSOs - sm
can cut corners by doing their own hiring and eliminating these recruiters.

with over 30 years experience I have said no to low-ballers because I started 20 years ago on production at - guess what - 8 cpl.

My personal favorites are the 'difficult' (and they know it) accounts that offer 7 - 8 cpl and claim commensurate with experience.

uh - run that by me again, and this time with a straight face, please.



JUST SAY NO, GIRLS. We can put them in a corner, too.